Here Today... Gone To Hell!

As you all know I'm still sticking by November 28th, but thought you guys might find this new tidbit interesting for all the November naysayers -

http://www.chinesedemocracy.com/viewtopic.php?t=20950&start=0

Oh, there you are. :smoking:

yep that sounds about right...im tellin you this thing is just going to happen out of nowhere....i can feel it

I wonder if some of these publications are going off of the RS article or do they have their own source? :confused:

yeah that is another possiblity,, they could just be going off of the rolling stone article....who knows...all i do know is that it is "possible" that we see the record on tuesday...likely?? of course not,,,but not impossible....which is more than i can say for any other tuesday for the last 15 years......we are all in the dark on this...we can only hope

jarmo,merck, mysterion, anyone?

sunday the big promotion will start and then a release on tuesday ?:peace:

I doubt whether they're taking it directly, there's a whole list of releases and it's a pretty small town newspaper - they surely don't employ someone to search through magazines  and the internet for album/game/dvd release dates every week. They probably  get it from some national media source list, I guess the question is how is that sourced.

Has it happened before?

Well if it is a small town newspaper, someone should contact them and ask who their source is/where they got the information?

I think all these places are getting this from that Rolling Stone article. Just an opinion.

There are going to be alot of pissed off fans (probably mostly ones that don't read these messageboards) come Tuesday if CD isn't out. It'll be due to all these different publications and "news outlets" reporting that 11-21 is the day. It'll also be due to the fact that GnR absolutley refuses to give us a definate date.

So when/if the media/press tears GnR apart, i won't feel sorry for them. They brought it upon themselves.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/going_mobile/daytondaily1.jpg)

That is definitely not a fake printing. But seriously, GNR management need to get onto that ASAP to confirm and deny it otherwise thats gonna spread very quickly

So is the call in yet?

Somoene might wanna call that newspaper and see what their source is?  that's public information they have to disclose.  It's a newspaper - they must be open 24/7 - that's all Im sayin'.

what paper is it?

Dayton Daily News-

No, most local papers do not stay open around the clock-

This isn't like the NY Times

Lots should be open around this time to finalize stories and submit tommorow mornings news, especially sports and entertainment departments.

also I dont think this guy put this in based on a rolling stone article, he most likely gets a piece of paper from some source with all upcoming releases and such.  Im not saying this is true, cuz its probably not, but it should be looked into further.

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If Chi Dem is released on Tuesday the 21st of November, I'll buy a copy and send it to the first person who writes:

"How the hell would a small paper from Dayton, Ohio be the first to break the news"

Rasha818 from RoV is on the phone with them now.  When she's off the phone, we'll let you know what was said.

 :beer:

Refreshing now.....and now

interesting.

long phone call.. wonder if thats good or bad :hihi:

haha yeah its geting long, i hope its for good  :beer:

So far she's been bounced around from person-to-person, no one seems to want to say what their source was.

It's a woman. If there's another woman on the other end of the line, well, this could go on :hihi:

ohh shit, well I guess I'll take a shower, shit, shave, work out, then maybe theyll be done!:)

wow, guess I can go to bed then, probably still be on the phone when I get up :hihi:

And I'm sure that description is going over well with all the ladies on the board! LOL.

Hey, if they can't handle the truth :smoking:

well we could go either way.

So the lady told the guy, ill give you concrete/failsafe directions on how to know if its real.

Guys says, Nah ill figure it out on my own.

Thanks to Rasha for taking the time to call.


Unfortunately, it looks like we'll have to wait until Monday to get the scoop... I still think their source is Rolling Stone.

I find those colors very hard to read.


Okay... This is what I've gotten from the folks over in Dayton.. this was basically the whole conversation...

ME: Hi, I was calling about a release date that was published this past week in your newspaper.

THEM: I'm sorry ma'am, we're the after hours line, we can't help you with that. You can call again on Monday when we're open.

ME: Okay, I'm sorry. Let me introduce myself so we're on the same page. My name is Rasha _______ from the Guns N' Roses management team. Your newspaper was brought to my attention and I have a very pissed tour manager, singer, manager and guitarist that I have to answer to about this. Do you know where you go the information about the Nov 21st release date?

THEM: Ummm, no ma'am I do not. But if you allow me to put you on hold, I can ask around and see if someone else might have an idea.

*i'm on hold*

THEM: Hi, Ms. _______, this is Taylor ____, I'm the night manager here and your call was transferred to me. I understand you're with the guns n roses management team?

ME: yes, sir I am.

THEM: I do apologize for any inconvienence this publishing may have caused you, but being the time and the fact that the editor n chief has gone and the publishing manager has gone home, I wouldn't be able to tell you exactly who and where the information was gotten from.

ME: I understand. Are your details even checked? Or do you guys just randomly get facts and publish them without any background checks to even see if they're valid?

THEM: Yes, they are checked by the author of the article. We're a very small newspaper, but we check our resources. Can I ask why this would upset the band?

ME: Sure, you can ask that all you want. I can't answer it because to tell you the truth, I'm not sure why its upsetting them. I was just told to find out your resources. Is there anything you can tell me now that I can tell them for now that wouldnt upset them anymore than they already are.

THEM: No ma'am, I'm truly sorry. I wish there was. What I can do is get your number and give you a call back first thing monday and I will have a definate answer for you. Please, ma'am, remind them that we're just a small newspaper, with limited resources.

ME: Okay, Taylor, I do appreciate your help. I'll pass along what you've told me.

After that I just gave him my cell phone number so he can call me back on Monday. I'm very curious. Do I come off as a bitch? I hope not. I was nicer than it sounds like reading this. I actually feel a bit bad for taking advantage of a small town paper.. these people are so trustworthy, they didn't even question me. God bless their little hearts... you can totally tell they're scared of a lawsuit lol.

I'm sure they can handle the truth, but "shower, shit and shave" is not the most pleasant example of alliteration out there. LOL.

Believe me, it looked better on a black background.  :hihi:

I would have loved to hear the voice of the person from the paper. Seems shitscared to be sued or something :hihi:

poor guys they seem scared about a lawsuit  :rofl: :rofl:

how desperate we are for news, threatening small newspapers for release dates :hihi: :rofl:

Now I'm glad a woman called. Can't beat them on nasty talk and threats :smoking:

cmon, I said work out also, jeez .

 :hihi:

great job calling them!
 : ok:

wow haha this thread made me laugh, it was like all dramatic about LIKE THE BAND IS MAD ! GRRRRRRRAWR DON'T PISS THEM OFF MORE THAN THEY ARE! ! ! haha if the newspaper was any smart they would have been like, so umm, if you're in management can you confirm this?? LoL

So now there are people masquerading as GNR management to find out if the release date is true? ?

Are you people serious? ?

I hope that was a joke. ?:no:

Yeah  :o  I thought the same thing but other than that i can't help but laugh lol  :rofl:    :rofl:  :rant:kudos!

How much ya wanna bet that the person who put that in the paper is a poster here at HTGTH  :rofl:

;D

 :hihi:

 :no:

The board has reached an all time low. "Hi this is GNR management"
 :rofl:

Hey, at least she didn't start screaming at the guy about being a Vietnam vet  :rofl:

yeah, wow, imagine how the real management must feel reading something like this.    :rofl:

hahahha  :rofl:

sorry to make this shitty post, but LMAO !

Now the paper is probably gonna end up getting a call from Merck. That'll confuse the folks in Dayton.

That was pretty fuckin funny though :hihi:

Did I seriously just read somebody posting about impersonating management where the real management could see it? Not only have we reached the bottom of the barrel as far as desperation goes (I'm curious about this shit, too, but I'm not going to knowingly commit fraud), but as far as sheer stupidity goes.

We're like fucking Navy SEALS around here.  Covert operations.  Sweet Jesus.

Sorry for giving the idea to call  :rofl: - I personally think it was funny as shit.  Fans of said band would probably not have to make said fraudulent calls if said band would simply be honest and forthright with their fans in the first place.  There's a novel idea.   : ok:

It's kind of amusing how the fans work together to dispel some of the rumors though! ;D

wow have to say, after having a rather shitty personal day, rading this thread  really made me laugh!, something I needed for today!

Seems borderline criminal to me..............pretending to be somebody you are not?

Yikes.

Edit: Don't you think it's fucked up to call somebody and pretend to be GnR mgt? People should be banned from here for doing that shit.

Yeah, I bet the real management will be pissed to see that. It was funny, but funny isn't always right. Would it really have hurt to wait 4 days until the 21st comes and goes without an album?

Raven

I can't stop laughing. ?I can't believe someone called that newspaper passing themself as GNR management. ?No she should not be banned! ?Why? ?Because she probably has provided all of us the best laugh we have ever had on this board. ? :rofl: ?That should teach Merck and Axl a lesson. ? :P ?Good god! ?Best thread in a while.

I'm sure they will be pissed.  And to think this could have been avoided.  But really lets all think about this.  If I was management I'd probably be pissed but man I'd have a good laugh also.  I thought I was a loser but this takes the cake right here.   :rofl:

Yeah, it was pretty messed up for her to pretend to be GNR management, I have to admit.  She could have just asked as a concerned person or whatever. 

Yes, funny, but kinda weird too lol

;D

Very funny.  I am still laughing about this.  And at the same time I am ashamed.  Imagine.  Gnr's camp could put us all in the same basket.  And that is just not a good basket.  *lol*

It's the basket that is on it's way to the funny farm! :hihi:

And just when I thought I couldn't laugh more.  Thanks Bandita.   : ok:

It's definitely coming out ! : ok:

Says who?

As messed up it was for her to pretend to be GNR management, it's even more messed up that before she said that's who she was they told her that there wouldn't be anyone there until Monday to answer her question. ?It wasn't until AFTER she said she was from GNR that they tried to get her some kind of answer. ?They didn't even ask for proof that that's who she really was!!! ?:hihi:

Says the Dayton Daily News dammit!

Oh and some paper in Muncie, Indiana because you just KNOW they are gonna have the breaking news on CD!

Please sense my sarcasm here! ::)

They probably got a good scare. ?*lol*

It's called "Phishing," and in most cases it's not illegal. Depends on what the person is trying to do. In this case it probably WOULDN'T have been illegal.

There's been alot on the news about it lately because some corporate CEO in the U.S. hired private investigators who use phishing, to try and find out who the spy was at their meetings. These people were getting phone records pretending to be the phone account holders. Big Congress thing and no one went to jail. (No P.I.'s or other people phishing were arrested)

I feel bad for the person at the newspaper though.

nice to see that someone tried posing as mgmt, very entertaining.  But seriously i dont think a small newspaper is going to be the source that drops the news that we want to hear

well i live in good ol dayton ohio right now and i'd be damn proud if dayton daily news did in fact break the news on the release date!

go dayton!  come back here axl!  did some great shows many years ago, two back to back!

Mike

That is because it would never occur to most normal people that somebody could actually be pretending to be GnR mgt!

Just a newspaper posting rumors, nothing more.  But if the album actually DOES come out, then this will be one of the most reliable newspapers ever.

The poor person that printed the release info is probably gonna lose their job now thinking that "GNR management" was calling them when in reality they probably just read it in RS. :no:

It is more than likely they knew it was bullshit anyway.............

You people have gone nuts.

Do you really think it's funny? Pretending to be the management?

Great...