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Title: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: Bodhi on November 27, 2006, 03:44:55 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2006/11/27/axl-gets-peeved-lou-reed-love-tai-chi-lohan-to-play-stevie-nicks/


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: WARose on November 27, 2006, 04:16:53 PM
thanks for posting : ok:


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: GNRfan2008 on November 27, 2006, 06:23:37 PM
 "Pigeons of Shit Metal." LMFAO! That's awesome.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: fixintodie on November 27, 2006, 06:49:38 PM
I feel vindicated.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: Groovie In VT on November 27, 2006, 07:04:00 PM
Some asshole posted as Jarmo on the RS page. :no:  Pretty sad.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: Bandita on November 27, 2006, 07:07:35 PM
Some asshole posted as Jarmo on the RS page. :no:? Pretty sad.

Some idiot does that on every blog that is posted about GNR on RS.  I know it's the same person repeatedly because they aren't even creative or funny.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: ColdNovemberRain on November 27, 2006, 08:51:52 PM
oohh snap ;D


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: JuicySwoos on November 27, 2006, 09:00:50 PM
Some asshole posted as Jarmo on the RS page. :no:? Pretty sad.

Some idiot does that on every blog that is posted about GNR on RS.? I know it's the same person repeatedly because they aren't even creative or funny.

Lots of Axl haters like to post too.  Why even post? The discourse in those comment sections reminds me of blabbermouth and Mygnr


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: fixintodie on November 27, 2006, 11:02:42 PM
Axl's music is good. There's is not. Let's face it - the fans decided, not Axl. Some people like a little talent to go with their posturing.

And EODM are now claiming they quit the tour.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: killingvector on November 27, 2006, 11:52:51 PM
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At first the audience refused to welcome us to the jungle, but by the time we took our final bow, it had become paradise city," reads a statement from the band released on Monday (November 27). "Although Axl tried to November rain on our parade, no sweet child o' mine can derail the EODM night train. We say live and let die."

As trite as their music.

On with the tour.... :peace:


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: destry rides again on November 28, 2006, 02:00:16 AM
I merged all these Eagles Of Death Metal threads together.

Please use this one for discussion and any future articles, as we don't need more than one thread for this.




Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: Juanjay on November 28, 2006, 04:58:22 AM
Axl's music is good. There's is not. Let's face it - the fans decided, not Axl. Some people like a little talent to go with their posturing.

And EODM are now claiming they quit the tour.

I can say that the guy that drums for EODM on their albums (Josh Homme) has put out more good records (Kyuss/QOTSA) than Axl has since '93. So saying that there's no talent in the band is kind of a blind assumption. I'm not sure if Josh goes out on tour with them or not though. That being said EODM is lame. But Josh however is quite talented.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: NicoRourke on November 28, 2006, 05:05:10 AM
I don't know one single song from this band, but I have to admit what Axl said is funny. He always cracks me up : ok:


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: babydolls on November 28, 2006, 05:07:36 AM
josh is talented, QOTSA are good, but i dont think he tours with them all the time - and not on this tour (not 100% though).  FAir enough though, if the general consensus was they are shit, then there's no need for them to bring down the atmos.

Why the same couldnt have happened with bullet for my funeral i do not know!  if it wasnt for anythinggoes - they might not have had any fans...  :rofl:


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: fixintodie on November 28, 2006, 05:34:16 AM
Axl's music is good. There's is not. Let's face it - the fans decided, not Axl. Some people like a little talent to go with their posturing.

And EODM are now claiming they quit the tour.

I can say that the guy that drums for EODM on their albums (Josh Homme) has put out more good records (Kyuss/QOTSA) than Axl has since '93. So saying that there's no talent in the band is kind of a blind assumption. I'm not sure if Josh goes out on tour with them or not though. That being said EODM is lame. But Josh however is quite talented.

It's not a blind assumption when I've seen EODM twice (as support acts) and heard their first album. I've also seen QOTSA and heard about three of their albums too. So, it's an opinion. And Josh Homme is, in my opinion, a lousy drummer.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: duga on November 28, 2006, 05:51:44 AM
"I want you so hard" is a good song (my earlier post was censored).? :peace:


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: Jimmy? on November 28, 2006, 06:42:11 AM
Axl Update: Eagles of Death Metal Strike Back!
Earlier today, we told you how Eagles of Death Metal got booted from their opening slot on the Guns N? Roses tour after just one gig, with GNR fans booing them roundly and Axl calling them ?Pigeons of Shit Metal? during his set. Well, the Eagles have responded: ?At first the audience refused to welcome us to the jungle, but by the time we took our final bow, it had become paradise city. Although Axl tried to November rain on our parade, no sweet child o? mine can derail the EODM night train. We say live and let die.?

While the Eagles? rebuttal may be just as silly as Axl?s diss, big ups to them for not dipping so low as to mention Axl?s hideous cornrows, shaky voice, or how, you know, GNR?s new album has been delayed longer than the return of Christ.

-- Christian Hoard



http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/inde...al-strike-back/


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: PigeonOfSh!tMetal on November 28, 2006, 06:45:37 AM
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GNR?s new album has been delayed longer than the return of Christ.

LOL! Awesome quote  :rofl:


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: mrlee on November 28, 2006, 07:06:55 AM
Axl Update: Eagles of Death Metal Strike Back!
Earlier today, we told you how Eagles of Death Metal got booted from their opening slot on the Guns N? Roses tour after just one gig, with GNR fans booing them roundly and Axl calling them ?Pigeons of Shit Metal? during his set. Well, the Eagles have responded: ?At first the audience refused to welcome us to the jungle, but by the time we took our final bow, it had become paradise city. Although Axl tried to November rain on our parade, no sweet child o? mine can derail the EODM night train. We say live and let die.?

While the Eagles? rebuttal may be just as silly as Axl?s diss, big ups to them for not dipping so low as to mention Axl?s hideous cornrows, shaky voice, or how, you know, GNR?s new album has been delayed longer than the return of Christ.

-- Christian Hoard



http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/inde...al-strike-back/

Thats a really lame and boring  come back from the band. This could have been the start of something grand, like gnr vs nirvana of the 21st century.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: PigeonOfSh!tMetal on November 28, 2006, 07:08:42 AM
Axl Update: Eagles of Death Metal Strike Back!
Earlier today, we told you how Eagles of Death Metal got booted from their opening slot on the Guns N? Roses tour after just one gig, with GNR fans booing them roundly and Axl calling them ?Pigeons of Shit Metal? during his set. Well, the Eagles have responded: ?At first the audience refused to welcome us to the jungle, but by the time we took our final bow, it had become paradise city. Although Axl tried to November rain on our parade, no sweet child o? mine can derail the EODM night train. We say live and let die.?

While the Eagles? rebuttal may be just as silly as Axl?s diss, big ups to them for not dipping so low as to mention Axl?s hideous cornrows, shaky voice, or how, you know, GNR?s new album has been delayed longer than the return of Christ.

-- Christian Hoard



http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/inde...al-strike-back/

Thats a really lame and boring? come back from the band. This could have been the start of something grand, like gnr vs nirvana of the 21st century.

EOD are hardly Nirvana though  :hihi:

They probably know not to take on the mighty Axl Rose, so they try and make a joke of it.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: mrlee on November 28, 2006, 07:34:50 AM
Axl Update: Eagles of Death Metal Strike Back!
Earlier today, we told you how Eagles of Death Metal got booted from their opening slot on the Guns N? Roses tour after just one gig, with GNR fans booing them roundly and Axl calling them ?Pigeons of Shit Metal? during his set. Well, the Eagles have responded: ?At first the audience refused to welcome us to the jungle, but by the time we took our final bow, it had become paradise city. Although Axl tried to November rain on our parade, no sweet child o? mine can derail the EODM night train. We say live and let die.?

While the Eagles? rebuttal may be just as silly as Axl?s diss, big ups to them for not dipping so low as to mention Axl?s hideous cornrows, shaky voice, or how, you know, GNR?s new album has been delayed longer than the return of Christ.

-- Christian Hoard



http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/inde...al-strike-back/

Thats a really lame and boring  come back from the band. This could have been the start of something grand, like gnr vs nirvana of the 21st century.

EOD are hardly Nirvana though  :hihi:

They probably know not to take on the mighty Axl Rose, so they try and make a joke of it.

oh i know, not the point i was making. Just a good fued between a good band and a shit band, just like gnr and nirvana.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: judaskennedy on November 28, 2006, 12:15:34 PM
The Eagles of Death Metal probably hadn't gotten the mustache wax unpacked from their suitcases before their maiden voyage on the S.S. Axl Rose hit an iceberg Friday. On the first night of what was supposed to be a three-week stint opening up for Guns N' Roses, the band was unceremoniously dumped from the bill after a chilly reception from the audience at the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland.

Following a well-received set by tour opener Sebastian Bach, the Eagles took the stage and, according to John Soeder, pop critic for the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the band was met with "not deafening boos, but lots of grumbling and grousing and ... indifference."

While a handful of people were dancing along to the Eagles' good-time, sleazy garage rock, Soeder said it appeared as if the majority of the audience was not into it and was even a bit confused by the group, which features Queens of the Stone Age's Josh Homme on drums, who isn't currently touring with the band.

After a two-hour wait for the headliners, Rose came out and promptly dissed the Eagles, asking the audience, "So how'd you like the Pigeons of Sh-- Metal? Don't worry, that's the last show they're playing with us." And, just like that, the Eagles were tossed out of the nest.

The Eagles took the Rose kiss-off with their usual fistful of salt. "At first the audience refused to welcome us to the jungle, but by the time we took our final bow, it had become paradise city," reads a statement from the band released on Monday (November 27). "Although Axl tried to November rain on our parade, no sweet child o' mine can derail the EODM night train. We say live and let die."

"My impression was, and I don't want to belittle the GN'R fans, but they didn't really get the inside-joke quality of the Eagles ... or the facial hair," said Soeder of the handlebar-mustache look sported by Eagles singer Jesse "The Devil" Hughes.

"Axl seemed like he was in a bad mood," said fan Nate Harris, who attended the show. "One of the first things he did was kick out someone who was in one of the first few rows during the opening song. He came back to the 'Pigeons of Sh-- Metal' bit all set long." Harris said Rose also turned the sound man into a target, repeatedly glaring at him, and at one point calling him "useless."

"Sebastian Bach ... they ate up his hair metal hits from the '80s and the new stuff, which sounded like the old stuff," Soeder reported. "But the audience seemed to be confused [during the Eagles' set] as to who the joke was on. They like their metal unironic. Numerous songs slipped into falsetto, and if you're a purist heavy-metal fan, falsetto isn't good."

Harris concurred that the crowd bid the Eagles farewell with "a few boos, some spare applause, but definitely no cheering," and added that Axl concluded the night with a graceful thank you to the crowd for bearing with his bad day.

A spokesperson for Guns N' Roses did not return calls for comment and no announcement had been made at press time as to who will replace the Eagles (see "Guns N' Roses Hint At Democracy's Arrival, Add Tour Dates").


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: T_Roxie on November 28, 2006, 12:17:53 PM
"Axl tried to novembr rain on our parade"...brilliant! :rofl:


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: fixintodie on November 28, 2006, 12:21:54 PM
"Axl tried to novembr rain on our parade"...brilliant! :rofl:

You have very low standards for brilliance.

And this Harris moron seems unaware of the fact that it is possible to 'get the joke'...and still think it's shit.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: T_Roxie on November 28, 2006, 12:41:09 PM
It was funny, just because they dont say "Axl says we're shit so we give up music" doesnt mean its bad.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: ppbebe on November 28, 2006, 01:22:17 PM
judaskennedy where you got the article from?

"Harris concurred that the crowd bid the Eagles farewell with "a few boos, some spare applause, but definitely no cheering" is that their idea of paradise city?

But yeah, not a bad comeback for pigeons. peace. :peace:





Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: judaskennedy on November 28, 2006, 01:52:23 PM
its from mtv.com,


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on November 28, 2006, 03:01:06 PM
Source: http://stereogum.com/

The Pigeons Of Shit Metal Vs. Axl Rose

Opening for Axl is a promising platform for a band prominently featuring distored guitars, give or take a riot or two. But when Eagles Of Death Metal took the stage after Axl-apologist Sebastian Bach, for the first of what was to be three weeks of shows, the audience responded with, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer pop critic, "not deafening boos, but lots of grumbling and grousing and ... indifference." And as you know Axl is forever in tune with his audiences wants, needs, and desires. So when he hit the stage, he hit EODM with this lambasting:

So how'd you like the PIGEONS OF SHIT METAL? Don't worry, that's the last show they're playing with us.

But aside from penning some of the finest over-the-top cock rock in years, we love EODM 'cause they're the last to take things too seriously. Case in point: Their response to Axl. (via Blabbermouth)

At first the audience refused to welcome us to the jungle, but by the time we took our final bow, it had become paradise city. Although Axl tried to November rain on our parade, no sweet child o' mine can derail the EODM night train. We say live and let die.

Meanwhile, the Tuesdays With Rosey countdown continues. It ain't out today, which means only four left in 2007! And we really doubt it'll come out on the Tuesday after Xmas. Or before.

After 15 years of waiting for a GN'R album, every time they say "It's coming this time, really..." it gets a little funnier. Like Sideshow Bob stepping on a rake over and over and over...


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: CheapJon on November 28, 2006, 03:09:46 PM
It ain't out today, which means only four left in 2007!

wyf, i have missed out on a whole year? :hihi:


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: Bandita on November 28, 2006, 03:10:51 PM
It ain't out today, which means only four left in 2007!

wyf, i have missed out on a whole year? :hihi:

Apparently we all did.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: ppbebe on November 28, 2006, 03:29:32 PM
its from mtv.com,
Ta!

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It ain't out today, which means only four left in 2007!

actually 3. what a thrill!
When GNR or anyone says between now and a certain date, my focus is automatically on the latter. I omitted to expect oct or nov release from the start. :yes:


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: bushkarocks!! on November 28, 2006, 05:37:00 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2006/11/27/axl-update-eagles-of-death-metal-strike-back/

here ya can read the reply from eagles


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: GNFNRAXL on November 29, 2006, 10:06:34 AM
Axl Update: Eagles of Death Metal Strike Back!
Earlier today, we told you how Eagles of Death Metal got booted from their opening slot on the Guns N? Roses tour after just one gig, with GNR fans booing them roundly and Axl calling them ?Pigeons of Shit Metal? during his set. Well, the Eagles have responded: ?At first the audience refused to welcome us to the jungle, but by the time we took our final bow, it had become paradise city. Although Axl tried to November rain on our parade, no sweet child o? mine can derail the EODM night train. We say live and let die.?

While the Eagles? rebuttal may be just as silly as Axl?s diss, big ups to them for not dipping so low as to mention Axl?s hideous cornrows, shaky voice, or how, you know, GNR?s new album has been delayed longer than the return of Christ.

-- Christian Hoard



http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/inde...al-strike-back/

Thats a really lame and boring? come back from the band. This could have been the start of something grand, like gnr vs nirvana of the 21st century.

EOD are hardly Nirvana though? :hihi:

They probably know not to take on the mighty Axl Rose, so they try and make a joke of it.

oh i know, not the point i was making. Just a good fued between a good band and a shit band, just like gnr and nirvana.

I am not a Nirvana fans myself and I think they were overrated BUT!  Calling them a shitty band is going overboard in my opinion.  After all they revolutionized music wether we like it or not.  On a side note I've always preferred Pearl Jam over Nirvana therefore I credit them more.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: fixintodie on November 29, 2006, 12:32:14 PM
Axl Update: Eagles of Death Metal Strike Back!
Earlier today, we told you how Eagles of Death Metal got booted from their opening slot on the Guns N? Roses tour after just one gig, with GNR fans booing them roundly and Axl calling them ?Pigeons of Shit Metal? during his set. Well, the Eagles have responded: ?At first the audience refused to welcome us to the jungle, but by the time we took our final bow, it had become paradise city. Although Axl tried to November rain on our parade, no sweet child o? mine can derail the EODM night train. We say live and let die.?

While the Eagles? rebuttal may be just as silly as Axl?s diss, big ups to them for not dipping so low as to mention Axl?s hideous cornrows, shaky voice, or how, you know, GNR?s new album has been delayed longer than the return of Christ.

-- Christian Hoard



http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/inde...al-strike-back/

Thats a really lame and boring  come back from the band. This could have been the start of something grand, like gnr vs nirvana of the 21st century.

EOD are hardly Nirvana though  :hihi:

They probably know not to take on the mighty Axl Rose, so they try and make a joke of it.

oh i know, not the point i was making. Just a good fued between a good band and a shit band, just like gnr and nirvana.

I am not a Nirvana fans myself and I think they were overrated BUT!  Calling them a shitty band is going overboard in my opinion.  After all they revolutionized music wether we like it or not.  On a side note I've always preferred Pearl Jam over Nirvana therefore I credit them more.

How exactly did Nirvana revolutionize music?


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: ppbebe on November 29, 2006, 12:43:34 PM
Rock music hasn't been revolutionized since....maybe the 70s?

But hey, this thread is not about Pearl Jam, Nirvana or music revolution.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: russtcb on November 29, 2006, 02:09:59 PM
A Universal rep sent me a link to this same story through Yahoo and in that version I claimed the Eagles "quit" the tour after one day.

The same rep mentioned she thought Axl was an ass and maybe he was jealous of the Eagles sounding better then GNR.

Naturally I wrote an explination back to her saying that you can't quit a tour you've already been kicked off of and that not on this or any other planet would Axl be jealous of those guys.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: ppbebe on November 29, 2006, 02:57:04 PM
The same rep mentioned she thought Axl was an ass and maybe he was jealous of the Eagles sounding better then GNR.

Naturally I wrote an explination back to her saying that you can't quit a tour you've already been kicked off of and that not on this or any other planet would Axl be jealous of those guys.

Was he jealous of the pigeons getting boos and wtf from the crowd? Of their playing the type of music very different from GNRs? Now the mentality would be beyond my why. :hihi:

About the course of events, maybe they quit and got kicked out at the same time. that might have happened while sg were performing on stage before GNR. Just a thought.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: russtcb on November 29, 2006, 04:58:28 PM
The same rep mentioned she thought Axl was an ass and maybe he was jealous of the Eagles sounding better then GNR.

Naturally I wrote an explination back to her saying that you can't quit a tour you've already been kicked off of and that not on this or any other planet would Axl be jealous of those guys.

Was he jealous of the pigeons getting boos and wtf from the crowd? Of their playing the type of music very different from GNRs? Now the mentality would be beyond my why. :hihi:

About the course of events, maybe they quit and got kicked out at the same time. that might have happened while sg were performing on stage before GNR. Just a thought.


Yeah, you never know about the whole order of events thing, but I agree with the first part too. It's like "why on Earth would Axl be jealous of a band getting booed??"


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: chinesedemocracy05 on November 29, 2006, 05:13:26 PM
Their response was classic in my opinion. That was hilarious. It wasnt lame or anything stupid. And that return of christ thing was also funny.


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: emanc93 on November 29, 2006, 05:43:27 PM
I was looking at old threads on this site and found one with a link to MTV.com yesterday. And while I was reading the article a video on the side appeared and it was talking about how GNR fired Eagles of Death Metal from opening up GNR. I just thought I might mention this beacuse really its not very important news but it could be the start of MTV promoting Chinese Democracy and that means Chinese Democracy could be out soon.


Title: Re: Pigeons Of &#*! Metal? Eagles Of Death Metal Laugh Off Axl's Ohio Rant
Post by: Orgasmatron on November 29, 2006, 09:20:20 PM
Haha, the Eagles do suck, and they never deserved to open for GN'R, in my humble opinion.  :smoking:


Title: Re: Pigeons Of &#*! Metal? Eagles Of Death Metal Laugh Off Axl's Ohio Rant
Post by: Super-Ecwfan1 on November 29, 2006, 11:20:19 PM
                Its such a funny story. They got kicked off a tour their 1st night because the fans thought they sucked. It must suck opening for G'n'R since I remember " Bullet My Valentine " was also met with some fans not caring for them when they opened the NYC shows in May.


Title: Re: Pigeons Of &#*! Metal? Eagles Of Death Metal Laugh Off Axl's Ohio Rant
Post by: newgnr on November 30, 2006, 01:44:58 AM
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Its such a funny story. They got kicked off a tour their 1st night because the fans thought they sucked. It must suck opening for G'n'R since I remember " Bullet My Valentine " was also met with some fans not caring for them when they opened the NYC shows in May.

holy shit, Bfmv was LITTERALLY the worst band i have ever heard in my life.  That opening set was like torture. 


Title: Re: Pigeons Of &#*! Metal? Eagles Of Death Metal Laugh Off Axl's Ohio Rant
Post by: crimson_joel on November 30, 2006, 02:37:37 AM
The term "Silence" is golden was given new life once I heard BFMW for the very first time....


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: fixintodie on November 30, 2006, 09:18:40 AM
Haven't these lame fucks had enough free publicity now?


Title: Re: Eagles Of Death Metal Kicked off Tour Thread
Post by: jarmo on November 30, 2006, 10:09:48 AM
Haven't these lame fucks had enough free publicity now?

Yeah, they're off the tour. Case closed.




/jarmo