Here Today... Gone To Hell!

www.myspace.com/gunsnroses

Holy cow!? The pic from 1987 is gone!!!!!? I wonder what's coming...? ?:o

Ahh!? They have NEW pics up!!!!!? ?:o

Woah!? A new background!? ?:o

TOUR DATES!!!!!? ?:o

Not listed as "Classic Rock" anymore, either!   :beer:

probably a newer picture.

woah thats cool :D

getting ready to put the new single on there ???  :drool:

meh, I'd rather have new songs. ?But it's nice to see the myspace page updated as well as the new site.

the ball has finally started rolling. =)

Looks terrible with Firefox  ::) :P

Axl is busy.  ;)

so this myspace is official right? i never trust myspace (i prefer real human interaction), too many posers.'


Anyone else hate the inability to read anything in contrast to the background?

my gnr page is still better

the new page does look cool

Awesome. :smoking:

the background is horrible makes it almost impossible to read anything

I like the background.  I actually just put it as my desktop. =P

Is that really their official myspace page?

Fuck yeah, the ball is rolling!

"Like the tide down on the ocean - the waves already set it motion.."   :smoking:

The only one in the game that's lost is you

Geffen put it up in 2004 to promote the Greatest Hits. It looked pretty cool with all that silver looking GN'R shit plastered everywhere (like the GH cover). Although, I think this one's cool too. I could make a better one, but meh - it's an update! : ok:

Yes, this is their offical myspace page.

they just added me.  :o  :rofl:

This would have to be official because of the studio versions of old material on there right?

^^ No, you can put any song on any page, they could put up an Aerosmith song if they wanted...

But this is offical. ^-^

Cool. I like the new look. Man, I am getting so excited for CD!  ;D

baby steps.

I didn't know of this myspace page.  :o

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Umm, if your name on Myspace was: A.Hitler they would still add you. The amount of people on that page who write comments as if the band is actually seeing them is quite amusing.

 :rofl:

I wonder if they also think Axl is sitting there behind the keys punching in "approve friend request" over and over all day :hihi:

How do we know that it's official then?

LOL. Fucking hilarious.

maybe thats how he keeps fit. I heard one 900 lb woman in the Guiness book of world records lost 200lbs by snapping her fingers before she was fit enough to exercise

Because it's run by the record label.

Looks like they stole Russian's myspace GNR pic...... :hihi:......they absolutely did...

Not trying to be a jackass, but how do you know it's run by the label?

I'd hope that the label would at least get the song titles correct.

I submitted some information through their myspace page, looks like it made it to gunsnroses.com.

So perhaps it is legit.   Just because the information got there does not prove it, it just shows that if it's fake someone spent some time making it convincing :)


Anyone know what the relationship is between GNR and MLB?? ?Why are MLB handling their member submissions?

And my excitment level goes up, like Rick Solomons dick in tha Paris Hilton video

I kinda thought the same thing.

New pics up!!!

 :yes:

Yeah, they did. They shut mine down and stole the photo. WTF?!

Well technically I stole the photo from here but still.  :rant:

I was the one who cropped it so it'd fit on MySpace. :rofl:


I didn't even have any studio songs on there, just live bootlegs which as far as I know aren't illegal. What gives?

I like the new page. They added new songs, too. But any "new" GN'R songs if you know what I mean.

WHAT? They don't???  :'(


 ;D

some cool george chin live pictures there havent seen a lot of them

Just like they spelt Appetite right on the Greatest Hits cd right? ::)

Ew they're one of those users that have to approve comments before they're posted.  I hate that.  I was wondering how there could only be 5 comments so far...  (on the photos)

Shame there aren't any of Bumblefoot, though...

SG

Why can't the blogs just be full-blown uncensored Axl Rants?

I would pay money to read that lol.

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cool  8)

My girl has that banner under the "people I'd like to meet" section.

Awesome page layout.  Especially glad to see that they list the current band members too !

There is an empty song space now!? I wonder what song they're gonna put up in it's place...? ?:yes:


EDIT:  Nevermind, it's like that on every artist page...   :-[

Just got this bulletin on MySpace from GN'R!

"Guns N' Roses had a great night in Ames, Iowa last night. It was fantastic for everyone to get back on stage with Axl on the road to recovery from the ear infection and the strep throat that caused their Milwaukee show to be cancelled. It was also really positive to have Helmet join the band alongside Suicide Girls, Modern Day Zero and Sebastian Bach after the disappointment that was The Eagles Of Death Metal. Axl and the band would also like to thank everyone for staying extra late in Ames. They left Chicago in the morning but what was supposed to be a 1 hour plane flight turned into a 12 hour bus ride due to the severe weather that hit Chicago and most of the country. The bus was diverted several times by the police due to major accidents and for a time there was real concern that the band would not make it. In the end it was all good and once again they would like to thank everyone for their patience and willingness to stay up late as well as apologise to anyone that had to leave! They look forward to seeing you over the next few weeks and wishing you Merry Christmas!
PS Regarding the Eagles Of Death Metal and their recent bogus claims Guns N' Roses bass guitarist Tommy Stinson had this to say, "As a matter of fact, Eagles of Death Metal were a suggestion of mine a while ago. Turns out they were the wrong band for our crowd. They were booed and did not play for as long as they were scheduled to. As for all of the inaccuracies that have been said since, I would like to say that's all they are - inaccuracies. In the past I have thrown my bass. I have never thrown it at Axl or anyone else in the band nor has anyone thrown my bass back at me? yet. Axl has been a dear friend to me for nine years. We have no problem communicating and wish that people would stay the fuck out of shit they don't know anything about. There was no GN'R mutiny or any such thing after the Cleveland gig and as far as I'm
concerned this tour has been the most fun yet. The band is playing great and getting along better than we ever have. With that said, either get on board or
fuck off."

Thanks for posting!

do those scumbags have a site cause id really like to copy n paste that. he did an interview and was a total scumbag

Fans are never fucking happy with anything, are they?

Oh damn, Tommy rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Thanks for posting.   :beer:  I love this band.  That must have been one hell of a travel day for the band...and the fans! 

Tommy is a class act all the way around.  He's an integral part of the new lineup, and I hope he's with GnR for a long time to come...

12 hour bus ride?  Shoot me now!!  Kudos to them for still making  it to the show.  I would have gone totally mental. ;)

People will complain about anything huh? ?If they didn't say something...they would be assholes for not explaining the lateness. ?They DO say something and they didn't say enough. ?Whateverthefuck.

I say THANK YOU for the info! ?GNR have been so much more forthcoming this year then in a long long time...possibly ever! ?I love hearing from them, no matter what it is ?: ok:

;D

EODM are enjoying their 15 minutes of notoriety right now in much the same vein as Kelly Osbourne.

Yeah i just read this... great post, i'm glad this was posted and i'm glad Tommy said that -- Tommy Stinson is rock.

FUCK YES!  8)  Tommy rocks.  :smoking:

Finally! An update with good news! (kind of).

Tommy is a man amongst boys...

Wonderful... ?and thank you for posting that.

It's always nice to hear from someone in the band. ?

Clear and direct communication is very a good thing and it only helps in preventing a multitude of problems in the future. ?: ok:

Cheers,
W.R.

Interstate 80 was CLOSED. Half a million people had no power (or heat), and several cities were in a state of emergency. Easy to understand the delay... but I guess not for some.  :-\

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That was cool. Even better to get Tommy talking, makes it seem like a band don't it?

Tommy always comes up with good quotes ;D

Either get on board or fuck off!

Hell yeah. Tommy is playing in his home town tonight!  And yes, ames was a kickass show!

Get on board of fuck off? Nice.

"Come the fuck in or fuck the fuck off!"

Have you seen their tour bus? They probably have beds, tvs, videogames, kitchen and so on in the bus.

True but still being stuck in a bus for 12 hrs on the road can't be that much fun.

Tommy is awesome.

Does this mean the Nightrain is prepping for an imminent departure?  Hmmm...

Honestly, how refreshing is it to hear an actual band member representing GNR?  Makes a world of difference, regardless of the fact that Merck held a gun to Tommy's head for that quote....kidding, kidding....

I'm not the biggest of fans of the new band, but this has made me a bit more positive towards them.
It's good to hear individual members of the band speak for themself, I like that? :beer:

 In this corner....  Tommy "The Duke"  Stinson.  He is coming out fighting.   For you younger folks that was a boxing reference to early 1990's boxer Tommy Morrison.

You can tell Tommy is still a newbie in relation to GN'R fans. We have been loyal thru all these years. We've been on board and have stayed on board after all these years of waiting.

Love the band solidarity.  And the effort to play the gig, no matter what!

Gotta love that part.  :hihi:

Well said Tommy.  A 12 hour bus ride in those conditions must've been really rough.  Just like in the days when the original Guns were trying to make it.  On the road, driving from gig to gig.  I'm sure there was some quality bonding time on the 12 hour journey.  That's one 12 hour ride I'd look forward to being a part of.

I don't think that says anything about Tommy being a "newbie" to GN'R fans... not at all.  NOT ALL OF US have remained on board and a large number of GN'R fans are long gone if you haven't noticed.  There are people that have become GN'R fans that weren't when the old band was together.  There are people that have become fans this year, this month, this week, etc. 

PLUS, I don't think this was a message directed TOTALLY to GN'R fans.  It's directed to anyone that chose to believe the bs that the EODM had to say about the band and all the other people that constantly question this band.  Tommy gets my praise for actually making a comment about the rumors that have been going around since the Cleveland show.  The only thing that would show that Tommy was a "newbie" concerning GN'R fans (WHICH HE IS DEFINITELY NOT) is that he actually SAID SOMETHING!!!!  We don't get that too often from this band do we??

At least when the band members speak and not just Axl or Merck the band seems less and less like hired hands and more like, well, a band.

tommy's been around for nine years and we've come to love him. it's great that he's sticking up for axl and for the band. he's never had anything but nice things to say about axl....

Tommy has been a bad ass since 1981...yes, that's right...before most of you turds were even born. He was a stud before Axl even thought about being a stud. : ok:

Honestly, how refreshing is it to hear an actual band member representing GNR?

VERY REFRESHING!!! To say the least!

finally tommy speaks!
Go tommy!

Tommy & Finck rule!

hell yes i'm on board!! :peace:

yeah it makes a whole lot of difference to actually read some news from a bandmember

Tommy fuckin rocks and he's too much fun! i know they are having a blast out there this year, this band is really tight, and they have my total support!

I never believed shit of what that POSM guy had to say

great to read what Tommy had to say - made sense.  go tommy!  nice that the untruths were quickly dispelled by him.  : ok:

I am too  :smoking:  I've been on board.  hopefully those that aren't take the hint and do exactly as tommy says! 

Tommy is the fucking man  :)

Well said Tommy!

im struggling to think of something that would be more fun - being stuck on the gnr tour bus for 12 hours, with as many drugs, alcohol and woman as you could dream of...yea, sounds like hell.

And how would they get all these drugs, alcohol and women on the bus if they're stuck on roads for twelve hours? Don't be ridiculous.

??? these things dont have to be picked up along the road ........... i dont understand your question .... ???

I think Uve kinda misconstrued Tommys comments there man. I don't think that was aimed at the fans at all, rather the media and the people not in the band who wanna stir up shit..

I'm right with Tommy here, great to here him speak out, all adds to the solidarity within the band!

agreed FortusGNR21.
I also disagree that the band treat fans like shite all the time.
I often see some "fans" give the band and its fans shit tho.


as if stuffs for 1 hour trip would last 12 hours?

That's because it was rhetorical, learn English.

We're on board Tommy : ok:

Come on man, the original band? They probably traveled around in a 50s Ford without heating or radio. I imagine Adler being forced to lay in the trunk or something. Now a 12 hour ride is a 12 hour ride, it sucks, but don't go comparing the two. These days they probably got tv's, sofas, food and beverage, music and other entertainment. It's a big rock band, they got it pretty nice you ask me.

I dont understand how that clown from the pigeon shit band would claim tommy threw his bass and walked off stage when its a flat out a lie and that everyone that was there knew it was BS and HELLO GNR TAPE EVERYSHOW and that backs up it never happened.  The guy when this went down was looking good, he should have taken the high road and said nothing but he started making up shit and now looks like an ass for lying about this

This is really awesome of Tommy. It's good to know the truth as to why the show had an abnormally late start. Great to see some band solidarity here. Refreshing to hear other band members speak. Makes it seem more like a real band.  This is peachy keen

3rd times a charm. I'll get this brainwashed thing right eventually. : ok:

Nice, Tommy! : ok:

Fuckin' awesome Tommy!
I love these guys.   :D

Merry Christmas GNR

Bye guys, i'm fucking off.

Haha just kidding.  But still, pretty nice move to say that to all of the naysayers.  Obviously something's going to be released soon, and i'm sure all these people hating on the band will want back in once they get more successful.

I'm having a hard time believing that any of these guys are using hard drugs or fucking various women.  Most of them are married and their wives have been with them at shows.  I don't think it's like the big rock n' roll party like it was 15 years ago for Slash, Duff, Izzy and Matt.  I'm sure they all drink but other than that, I don't see much else happening.  I don't think any of these guys have ever had a drug problem that has been documented or made public anyway.

Anything could be possible though because some people do drugs that you never think would, like that queer Backstreet Boy that had the coke problem.  But as AdZ said, I think the idea of the drugs and women is "ridiculous."  The alcohol though??  NO WAY. 

Robin is the only guy that I wouldn't be surprised about if he had a drug problem. 

Maybe not hard drugs, but if I came backstage and didn't see a couple of reefers being passed around I would be very disappointed. :smoking:

just added 'DOTF' to the player.

"EVERYTHING SMELLS LIKE HORSESHIT, DOWN HERE ON THE FARM..."

Good, I hope they play it more often on tour. With the "Baaahhh". : ok:

omg the myspace changed songs  :o

That's not the big deal- the big deal is that that the mastermind being the GNR myspace cleverly used the lyric "EVERYTHING SMELLS LIKE HORSESHIT, DOWN HERE ON THE FARM..." as the title of a bulletin :hihi:

How's that clever?

I think it would be clever to take the '06 tour stuff out.

i dont see Down on the Farm on the GnR Myspace...where is it?  I got the bulletin though, but only jungle, scom, ycbm, and youre crazy are on there still

Scoll down :P

Myspace sucks!

i see... I had no idea you could scroll down on those things

Looks like the GN'R Myspace has been hacked!  :D

I get a good laugh out of the people on there who actually think Axl is reading all that stuff.

Naw, just a spambot.

From:  Guns N Roses

 
Date: 08 Apr 2007, 11:34 
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Oh Lord, the GN'R Myspace has been hacked... ::) :hihi:

I just came by to see if anyone else saw that  :o

The GNR myspace started a bulletin with "Hey baby"   :rofl:

 yeah I saw that too, i was like wtf!?

hahaha that is fuckin classic

hahaha i dont myspace is gay, but they have more updates on it seems. The japan tour dates and others are up there and not on the own official site.

yeah they are http://web.gunsnroses.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070321&content_id=a1&vkey=news&fext=.jsp

For what it's worth, they've added Frank's personal page to #3 on their friend's list!  : ok:

who runs this thing anyway? it obviously hasn't been updated lately!

Probaly the same person who runs gnr.com  ::)

Thursday, June 21, 2007

  Exclusive GN'R Items Up For Bid On Ebay
Category: Music


Guns N' Roses fans, get ready to bid on several one-of-a-kind, exclusive autographed items through eBay and help a family get their lives back together. Here's bassist Tommy Stinson with the details...

ATTENTION GN'R FANS!!!!!!

I'm reaching out to you because I'm helping out with a benefit show (www.krugeraid.com] that was in Waseca, Minn., on June 9 at the Waseca Fairgrounds. It was a day-long event of music, food and family activities. On February 3, 2007, my sister-in-law, Hilary Kruger, and her family were devastated in a horrible act of violence when a stranger broke into their home and murdered her husband, Tracy, and Alec, one of her two young sons.

Hilary is still in critical condition as I write this. We are trying to raise money to get her and her son, Zak, back on their feet, as they have a long and very difficult road ahead of them. Here's a link to the story: http://www.startribune.com/467/story/978914.html

Golden Smog and Soul Asylum, as well as some very special guests, DJs, etc., played this show. If I wasn't currently on tour with GN'R, I would have played on this bill. A lot of my close friends performed, and I personally would like to thank you all. I am also helping to coordinate a couple of eBay auctions.

The auctions feature a Robin Finck Les Paul guitar that was used in concert, and hockey and baseball jerseys signed by ALL the current band members of GN'R. All proceeds go directly to Hilary.

I'm extremely grateful to my bandmates for their help and support. I would be very appreciative of your support as well. Thanks for listening. It means a lot to me and my family.

Thanks
T.S.

These are the items available on eBay:

# GN'R Autographed Robin Finck Gibson Les Paul Guitar
# Three GN'R Autographed Star Logo Hockey Jerseys, all separately autographed (sizes M, M, L)
# One GN'R Autographed Asian Logo Baseball Jersey (size L)
# One GN'R Autographed Roses and Pistols Logo Baseball Jersey (size L)

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All items visible here:

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Some cool pics, thanks for posting them.

Ali

Tommy's looking a little rough around the edges....maybe too much of that Jaeger! : ok:

kick ass pictures.   :smoking:  very cool seeing the guys together off stage enjoying themselves.

In the first pic, who is the guy in the foreground? I don't recognize him.

Del James

Yay, cool photos! Guns in a zoo. :D

what are the bottles in the guitar case?


what jeager? I see a koala.

The bottles are Jaegermeister...it will knock you on your ass...Tommy looks hungover, as in sick, as in too much booze! :-*

the 2 of my questions are answered at once. thanks.

Kick ass pics!! That guitar case is the new backround on my phone  ;D

I love the Koala pic!  :love:

me too look at their faces when holding the koala in their arms.
and this crocodile's face.

:D

That looks like the Koala place i visited outside of Sydney! I LOVE KOALAs!

excelnt pics...

HBK *

The Jaeger must be Dizzy's :P

I'm sure Axl was there, as the guy who was at the afterparty said that Axl loved the animals in Australia. He probably just didnt want any offstage pictures out there. As you can tell none of the pictures of Axl on the site or the myspace have been offstage.

Lovely pics, especially the one of Richard holding the koala  :)

does anyone find it weird that Axl isn't in any of the pictures of the rest of the band at the zoo?

No.. Its Axl...

i don`t think it`s weird.....

That bastard's probably hiding with the monkeys or something. :hihi:

Oh shit, is calling Axl a bastard gonna get me -Karma? :rofl:

meh, it just seems like the rest of hte band likes to hang out.......w/o Axl alot

i love all these photos !!!

tommy looks strained..nice cuddle from the lil koala though  ;)

that coala is damn cute, lol.

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damn those magic beans! :confused:

Amazin pictures man! Thanks a lot! : ok:

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Does anyone else look at this pic, and think "Damn, if they had just tried to maximize their space, they could have gotten at LEAST three more bottles in there!"...or is it just me?

I'm also forced to wonder...do they, for some unholy reason, not sell Jager in Australia?

I kind of thought that myself. They definetly could've fit a LOT more in there.

Axl was taking the pics, that's why he is not in any of them. Koalas are lovely, australian animals rocks.

Nope, as far as I know you can't buy it Australia. My brother's girlfriend had to bring over bottles from Norway.

Isn't it matured/fermented on ships or something?

Oh rubbish it's available in every bottle shop!

:rofl: :rofl:
so true! HAHA.

AMAZING !!!! Robin Rulez Rock !!

HBK *

GN'R just sent a bulletin they added Nice Boys on their playlist over there  : ok:

nice  : ok: 

cool find darkfairy

cool

Re-Cool !!!

 8)

HBK *

I think Paradise City has now gone..

Your crazy is gone. It was my song on my profile so I'm spewin


 :peace:

Is it live or studio?

It's the "live" version from Lies.

So it's studio.

so its boring news....

here's the demo for the ones who dont have it

Here is the link for the file you uploaded:
http://download.yousendit.com/D00D3CCA6AB031B1

Yeah, for the most part. Unless you'd like to have Nice Boys as your profile song.

Can someone put a link on here?

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=12994546

cool : ok:

New pics from Japan up on the Myspace.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=12994546&albumId=0


 :peace:

i love it!!

Thanks..

Frank Farrer is under arrest!! lol hahah

:D

Axl's letter is no longer up on the myspace page. The is a pic link to the store.


 :peace:

Well that's good I guess. I mean, it's obviously not at all current anymore. I wouldn't want the average Joe (not all of us) to go to their page and be like "wtf?".

I was wondering, why isn't "Oh my God" on their Myspace player? Seeing as it was/is the only officially released song from the new band at this point, it'd make sense to have it up. (Even though it has older ex-members playing on it)

Plus, the song is awesome, and it'd be nice to be able to add it to your page.

wat about the big daddys "sweet child" ?

There were rumors saying the new band had re-recorded all of AFD at one point, might as well add some of those tracks.

I thought Axl himself said the new band re-recorded AFD in his '99 Loder interview.

He did in an interview, but obviously we've never heard it

would it not sound exactly the same?  what is the purpose of re-recording an album? 

"why do that? Well, we had to rehearse them anyway to be able to perform them live again, and there were a lot of recording techniques and certain subtle styles and drum fills and things like that that are kind of '80s signatures that subtly could use a little sprucing up... a little less reverb and a little less double bass and things like that." said axl in this interview (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28)

Not sure how many of you use Myspace, i know alot of you are older then me and may not be into that type of thing, but its there for anyone who does have a myspace and wants to add it. Also idk if its just me but i no longer see a background on there, im thinking they are working on a new bad ass layout.

The full version of CD is gone along with the Download link.

Ok its back now.


 :peace:

even though I would love to hear a re-recorded AFD

They need to leave it alone, and it looks like they have.

I wouldn't mind them doing something to make it louder...it plays quieter than most of my collection.

And cutting the synth out of Paradise City would make my day.

But I don't want it re-recorded.  No reason to mess with something that good.

Louder ?? no way !!it would end sounding like Metallica's death magnetic.

Loud= shitty sound quality.

If you want to rock it harder just pump up the volume on your stereo or get bigger speakers !
check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

Wasn't the version of Sweet Child from Big Daddy just a live version?

when i went to crank the new tune from the gnr site i noticed something that flickered in the background, i got a screen shot of it.

http://i34.tinypic.com/33zfr88.jpg

its the 06 tour logo.

now if i remembered correctly, this never happened before. i mean, it could always just be a coding error or something but, who knows.

edit:: hmm now its not doing it anymore. weird.

u mean on the myspace site or www.gunsnroses.com ? because i sometimes get the yellow star from 06 before the songs starts to play at the official site..

Talking about MySpace or Gunsnroses.com?  Gunsnroses.com has been doing that...clear your 'cache', and it will do it again as page loads...it is the old website background...whoever did the 'new' splash stuff left the old background by mistake.

yeah sorry. it was the gnr.com site, not myspace.



got ya.

edit:: i guess i was spacing out, this is the myspace one. my bad

but, to add to the myspace topic, new layout and countdown at the top. oh i just remembered. myspace doesnt allow javascript, therefore the countdown will work! time to add it to my page

It switches over from a live version to a re-recorded studio version. It happens about 3 minutes in.

The page is completely redone now. Looks awesome


 :peace:

Sure does. Thanks for the heads up.

I saw it a few days back, just means they didn't fully delete that part.

I like the band members listed on GNR's myspace. I certainly hope that's an accurate list!

I was just thinking the same thing. It still says Robin so It looks like everything is tip top  : ok:


 :peace:

But you can't tell if it (band member list) was recently updated or not can you?

Photo just now uploaded on GN'R's official myspace page:

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2/lordkayoss/gnrcd.jpg)

http://www.myspace.com/gunsnroses (http://www.myspace.com/gunsnroses)

Okay I have now heard this version. Glad they didn't release the re-recorded album based on that effort. Axl sounds okay, but Finck or Huge or whoever it is kills the solo - and not in a good way.

If robin's still listed in that OFFICIAL gnr myspace... I think we can be sure he's still in the band.

this time is not speculation, that's just the info provided in a GNR official site.

damn it, how great it would be to see the RF.com site updated with new GNR info

I also would love to see a promotional pic with all band members, including Robin and his new dark-marley style  :hihi:

If they updated the page then Im sure they would have updated the Band Members if anything had changed.


 :peace:

I don't remember him ever leaving.     Just fan speculation because he is touring with NIN while GnR isn't touring.    I think if he really intended to leave the band, he would have said something.

Well, that's exactly what I used to think, until I saw that ''Guns N' Robin'' article in gnr.com where del james says he has no idea about Robin status and/or plans.

And, sometimes, the way Jarmo talks about Robin (in a very different way than he speaks about other members touring with other bands) worries me.

I'm 99% happy. I need some kind of explicit confirmation about Robin's status and my happiness will be at top

Didn't you just say 3 posts up that you believe he's in the band because he's listed on the MySpace?  I agree that we can't count on anything until either something's said or we see him performing live with GN'R, but I'm just confused by the inconsistency of your posts.

i like the new myspace.. what a nice thing to see!!!!

No. I dont take that as the official confirmation at all, in fact, I was being a little sarcastic, trying to point how we have an official website that still says ''we have no idea about robin's status and or plans'' and another one that includes him in the band member list.

We were never told that Brain was out, and there's no info about him or his status at gnr.com, but he's not listed at the myspace.

I will be sure Robin is still in the band if there's an explicit article in gnr.com or rf.com saying that, or if I see him onstage ni the future GNR concerts.

I don't know if anyone knows or posted this yet. It has the song on there and a link to download it as well.


http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=12994546&MyToken=d541974a-6b90-46b9-aa65-21f986ad83c3

That's cool! I like that you can email that countdown to people!

I already embedded it in my page.

i didnt notice the new countdown. i had the one from the top on my page but the new one is way cooler. im going to use that one now.

the countdown i have on my page is much cooler ;D

btw can some1 post the pic of the new gnr logo that is on the new countdown on their page?

I like that you can email it to others.

Everyone I know will be receiving that email when I get home later tonight!!

The page has been updated again. New pic of the logo and an awesome new background.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=12994546


 :peace:

The background is cool.

it def is. i like that alot.

I hope Brain is still in the group..I'm just glad his drumming will be prominently featured on the album...

That background rules.

Hopefully they make a t-shirt with that on it at some point!  : ok:

this has probably been asked before but -- who runs the GNR myspace? Fernando?

They're spamming my bulletin space!  ::)

Guns N' Roses    11.23.08
Guns N' Roses    11.23.08

Etc etc...

I am SO deleting them and taking them off my top friends!  :rofl:

not sure....id say him or del...or maybe both...or maybe none of them

so basically, you added nothing? and we're right back to where we were before your post, rendering it completely useless? :yes:

Wanna listen to the first official sound of BETTER!!!

GO TO WWW.MYSPACE.COM/GUNSNROSES   : ok:


Edit: i should have said its one more 30 sec ad

Nice catch, took me awhile to figure out what the heck you were talking about.  I'd assume that's the new spot they'll be airing now that the election is over with.  Perhaps that's a sign that "Better" will be single number 2 off the album?

Yeah, maybe everything got "BETTER" after the election.. haha.. or.. was that a poor one?  :hihi:

Plus the new myspace layout is Better  :hihi:

BETTTTEERRRR!!!! My absolute favorite  :love:

Thanks for heads up  : ok:

The comercial featuring Better is not available now?? Don't see it on myspace and it was taken off youtube.

They just put out Dont Damn me on the official myspace page! =) Love this song!

looks like live and let die will be there soon also

Imagine the new band doing Don't Damn Me live... Holy shit... :drool:

Edit: I don't see it?

it has been added to theyr myspace song list..  just got it as newsfeed on myspace

fuck yeah, last time they added new old songs they added songs that they had played on a recent tour or was going to play i think(?).. hope it could mean something, probably my favourite rocker of the illusionsongs

yeah, dont damn me is my favorite gnr rocker from the illusion era!
and its so timeless...! it could have been released to day!

I can't see it, they've still just got samples from Chinese Democracy

http://music.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=music.popupplayer&songid=32846561&artid=5320152&albid=6226

try this link

oh, since i don't have you and move to the city is also up, maybe it means nothing special :P

and human being

and reckless life....

On that link there is, but not on the proper gnr myspace page http://www.myspace.com/gunsnroses

Not that this means anything, nor would it really matter even if it did, but I found this interesting.

I noticed that comedian and co-host of "That Metal Show" on VH1 Classic, Jim Florentine, has GNR in his top 10 friends and GNR has him in their top 15.  I'm not too surprised that he has GNR that high on his list, but I'm a little surprised he's high on their list.  Maybe he's friends with someone in the band or someone who runs the page.

Sorry for my rambling, I know most people could care less about this.  But I think he's a funny guy, and he's a semi regular on the Howard Stern Show, so it may be interesting to just me.  Just for reference, Jim did the voice of the character "Special Ed" on Crank Yankers.

Or someone that works for his show. Good call on that one.

He DID rate Appetite higher than Van Halen 1, and was the only member of the show to do so.

No activity on MySpace since 5/22...I have not made a point to track this, but since I've been on MySpace this seems like the longest 'break'...who keeps this up, Axl, Del, or Management?   I tend to think this may be a good sign that there are more important things to do than 'dick around' online.

Well I can see why Axl, GNR management, Del James, etc. would not update Myspace. I think nowadays most people are on Facebook.  I haven't been on Myspace since February and only use Facebook and LinkedIN now.

Pretty much all the bands give updates of whats goin on throug myspace,  I dont think GNR have facebook, I might be wrong....i think myspace tells pretty much if the band is still alive or is just fallin apart IMO, the page is still showin that Best Buy have the exclusive  ???

PS. somebody knows who is Sarah Foster?...shes in the top friends.

She played her self in "Entourage", has hosted Entertainment Tonight spinoff on MTV.  She played the lead female rold in "Big Bounce" in 04.  She also played in the Backstreet Boys video Shape of my Heart in 05.  Currently she plays Jen Clark on Beverly Hills 90210, and last but not least she was named #10 on Maxim hot 100 of 2005, and she is currently engaged to a german tennis player named Tommy Haas.  So there you go...

ok got it thanx, so she always been a GNR fan ?

True - because it takes at least 5 minutes to update a MySpace or Facebook page. 

As usual, the band must be extremely busy.   ::)

I would imagine :-\, but it seems she left that part out :P, and your welcome by the way.

busy huh ?
doing what .....
 :-\

Busy getting on with his life

well they finally logged in the page today! do u guys think it means something? ???

I think Del or whoever runs it was bored. So they decided to check thy myspace.

Hey that cat with the headphones is pretty cute!

Last Login:  8/8/2009

But no update...  :(

So um, has today's bulletin been mentioned yet?

yes but you didn't say shit about it so now i have to log onto myspace   ::)

Here's the bulletin:

Aug 27, 2009 1:06 PM
Subject:    Hello Everyone

Body:    On Sunday, August 30th at 2 p.m., there will be a book signing for Dark Delicacies III: Haunted (hardback $26.95 and trade paperback $15.95) with editors Jeff Gelb & Del Howison, plus authors Del James, Heather Graham, Michael Boatman, Mick Garris, R. C. Matheson, Victor Salva, Eric Red, Maria Alexander, and others to be announced. Dark Delicacies III: Haunted features contributions from Kevin J. Anderson, Clive Barker, Richard Christian Matheson, David Morrell, and Chuck Palahniuk, and many other great writers.


Dark Delicacies
4213 W. Burbank
Burbank, CA 91505
1-888-DARKDEL or 1-818-556-6660
www.darkdel.com


And for those of you who still need a copy of The Language Of Fear, Dark Delicacies has a few signed copies. Below is a link to a Times.com article about memorabilia/collectibles where The Language of Fear is mentioned:


http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1918156,00.html

Last Login: Aug, 27

 :smoking:

Wow at this point i really care about some crappy del james book, what a waste of a fucking update  ::)  :rant:

And we don't care about you not caring.

What a waste of time to post that!  :P



You don't seem to realize that not all updates are aimed personally at you.




/jarmo

I'm sure i'm not the only one who's gonna feel this way....

It would be one thing if they posted what was going on in GNR, or even if they plugged everything every member of the band is up to... But for Del James, a freind of axl, not even a member gets an update...Spare me

Na, your not alone

Afterall we are GNR fans looking on a GNR myspace page. Sites like that are generally geared toward people who have interest in their music, etc.

I could have  sworn he requested that there be no gnr questions...I hope not

The dude is right. GNR's Myspace bulletins and messages should be about the band, its members or (if necessary) about advertising their own (band-) products. I don't wanna go there (or even open my mailbox for that matter) and read about something that has nothing to do with GNR or even music related stuff at all.
So I care about what the guy said and I know you ain't talking for me so take the "we" outta your first sentence and shove it! As for the rest of your statement...you know where to put it by now ;)

Boohoo!

 :'(

If you fail to realize that there are GN'R fans who are interested in his writings, you're just being ignorant or just plain stupid.




Don't bother pointing out every news bulletin that doesn't interest you. Nobody gives a fuck in the long run.

It's common sense.



/jarmo

I've said it for years

I am a fan of the band "Guns N Roses"

I don't give a shit about side projects or stuff like this

I saw a GNR bulletin and got excited, opened it and WOW, are they seriously using GNR for their own publicity?

I think its ridiculous. People talk shit about Slash and co using GNR to promote their stuff.......

No, actually I'm not. What about using his own myspace account/website or whatever promotion-tool? If people are looking for his stuff they don't need to sign up on GNR Mailing lists to find out. I am criticizing that he is using someone else's popularity for a certain self-centered reason. And damn it, I don't wanna read about the hottest burger in town when I sign myself to the Rolling Stones newsletter. Got it? This has nothing to do with his stuff being good or bad it's just the plain fact that he is advertising himself and his stuff in an unappropriate place.

Beside from that...I guess it's only a minority of GNR fans who really care. Otherwise he'd be a millionaire by now, eh?

I don't understand how this can be defended. We subscribe to GNR's myspace for GNR news. That is the whole point of Myspace and sites like that.

If people are a fan of Del,they can find him on the GNR site and add him and he can use his own to promote his stuff.

Maybe he does.  :P


You seem to think a band's Myspace should only be used to sell the band's products. Fair enough.

But obviously GN'R uses it for other causes as well.

It's not like Del is some total stranger to GN'R fans....




/jarmo

True Jarmo but when we haven't had any GNR news in forever and all of a sudden u open Myspace and see "Guns N Roses' bulletin, your heart drops for a minute thinking "HOLY SHIT" could this be a tour announcement,video? Axl interview?

Then it is very disheartening to open it and realize that NOPE, just more shit that has nothing to do with Guns N Roses.

I appreciate Del James, I loved the writings I've read from him, and I'm always interested about him.

But the GNR.com or the MySpace site should NOT be the place to get news about him.

Anyway, I dont rule that site and there's nothing I can do about that. I know gnr ain't a burker king... yes...

Some bands use their web sites/Myspace pages etc. to bring attention to causes they support.

Do you think all fans of said bands care about stuff like the environment, the election or whatever else?



Seems like lately people spend more time whining about what's on Myspace than talking about the music.




/jarmo

Does Del James run the "Gn'R" myspace page...?

If he does, maybe he should try a little harder?! If he's no stranger to the circus (and I agree with you that he's not) than people will find out about his stuff. But I mentioned that already. I stated that a band's myspace can -also- be used for commercial purposes. Why not? As you've seen I also mentioned some other things a band's myspace can be used for like information on the band (had that before...) or anything as long as it's about the artist. I don't wanna buy a can of Coke and find myself drinking a coffee.

I think that GNR should stop using their myspace for those causes because it obviously 'irritates' a lot of people. Basically I just wanted to show you that properbly you shouldn't mouth off so quick about things because obviously not everyone agrees with you on everything as far as Del James is concerned. Try to treat people a little more mature because actually some of them are able to think and defend their points!!

Oh right.

You think because there's a few people who whine about everything that the whole world sucks?

It's not that easy.

I bet the majority of people don't get so easily offended by a Myspace bulletin. They look at it and think "it's not for me...". Move on. That's it.







It's a two way street as far as I'm concerned.



/jarmo

You're getting away from the original topic -> we're not talking about whining people or a world that sucks. The point was to talk about if Del James usage of GNR's myspace in order to promote his own efforts was ok or something he'd rather avoided, remember? I just expressed my opinion on that matter just as some other people have done.

Look, I tried to make my point clear and back up with arguments in order to show that you're just plain wrong on that matter. Your arguments (especially the one to begin with) make you look like a smartass and not a very charming one. Listen dude, I usually only read in here but I know that most times you behave like a prick and treat people like crap. So...I just wanted to get in an argument with you turn the tide.

Ahhhh....we'd dance the night away but enough for now because you know what arguing on the Internet is, right?

The point is, you're saying a lot of people are upset. I'm saying just because a few people post that they're upset doesn't mean the majority is.

I'm guessing, and hoping, that the majority just looked at it, realized it wasn't for them, and moved on with their day...

Easy as that!




You must be confusing me with AdZ.


How can I be wrong? It's an opinion, just like yours!  :hihi:

I explained why I think this is not a big deal. I saw the update, I wasn't insulted/annoyed. I moved on.

I figured many others would manage to do the same.

It's obvious some are often upset/annoyed by something. And only choose to post when they are. So they come across as whiners....




/jarmo

James From 1985 - 2009 In GNR Camp... The Best Friend Of AXL & Road Manager Of GNR,.,

please, GNR Not Is Mac. SHIT Donadls.

Kick Ass... GNR... Closed Ass

 :beer:

Translation?

But I think the GNR myspace mentioning Del is alright, he's 'associated' with the band and such so why the hell not?

Does the avoidance of the question mean that he does or that you don't know?

Avoidance?  :rofl:

I just didn't notice it.


No idea.




/jarmo

GNR Things Are ... An Enigma

Cheers cotis

In reality, are we probably making a big deal out of this? Sure

But I just get tired of everyone using GNR as a promotional vehicle for their own shit.

It comes off really bad. Especially after the big fan filled hate rant he posted on GNR's website that got pulled and now using GNR's myspace to plug his stuff.

It is just wrong.

Seems like Guns is used / will promote everything ,but Chinese Democracy.


 

whining about a bulletin posted on myspace?  :-\   some people need to get a life.

It's better than silence!

Last I remember, people here hate "silence."

Fans of Del, go read his books and go to his signings.

Fans of Dizzy, go to his shows in Hollywood.  These little things really help pass the time between tours and albums.

Deep breaths people, deep breaths.  You're on teh internetz, and if you really want to spend some time on teh internetz,  instead of crying about Myspace (TEENAGERS!!!!PSSSHH!!!), go watch some FREE PORNO!  Try not to get any viruses. 

Cheers.

That's most likely the case. The upset minority are only the loudest ones!   :yes:

Can't seem to get that Better video out, tour or even post a kernel of actual band news, but a Del James book signing, now there's news!  Fucking dumb.

You forgot Dizzy's shows!



Whining about this, now that's stupid.

As I've pointed out, the majority seemed to be able to look at it and move on, but "the special few" have to whine about it. As usual.

Whine, whine, whine.....  :crying:





/jarmo

Yeah, I'm surprised I forgot that already too.  Everyone give a shit about Dizzy, he's pretty much Guns N' Roses.

I fucking swear to whatever god you happen to think is real. I got Chinese Motherfucking Democracy. Yea. I am fucking good. Axl in my eyes, did right by us. He released Chinese Democracy. He did it! And it is beyond what I ever could have imagined (and I have be listening to the leaks ever since they first started getting out there, repeatedly). Whatever Axl decides to do next, I am cool with. I wanted Chinese Democracy so fucking bad for so damn long. Everything about CD was just an awesome experience that is special to me, and its just mine. No one else I know could understand.  I love the music so much, its become a part of me. I want to feel good and Chinese D will always make me smile.


Axl gave me an experience I will forever cherish and music I will forever love. Whatever the fuck he wants to do next, I am fucking cool with, whatever. Release some songs, I will buy it. Tour around L.A. I'm there. Chill the fuck out to the last days with some honeys, no fucking problem. I understand that. That is language I get. Because it doesn't matter. I got Chinese Democracy. Hahahahahhaha fact.

Not everyone, but some.

And many of those that don't care because they can't attend the shows don't have the need to whine about the updates.

Same shit year after year.



Instead of whining about insignificant shit that doesn't concern you, go put on the album and enjoy.

You spent years whining about not having it, so I assume you can spend years listening to it too....




/jarmo

always think it's funny to see jarmo if someone post here his opinion and it isnt the same one you have
that person then always turned out to be a whiner

i only see one litle whiner in this thread and that is you mate for not letting people have a opnion other then you

go ahead ban me 

cause that's what ya do when people say the truth in ya face and sure don't forget to call me a whiner and a nonfan to before ya kick me from this site

 :beer:

If I don't allow other opinions, how come I'm replying to their posts?

How do you explain that?

Oh wait, you can't!



I'm sorry if people like yourself who whine about insignificant shit look like whiners to me. It's my opinion!

Why can't you accept that people have different opinions that might differ from yours? Stop trying to censor my opinion!  :crying:



I love how your opinion is "the truth".

It's called an opinion. Not the absolute truth. Learn the difference.



/jarmo

lol jarmo

you responding to other people is that they are whiners that is all you do mate
telling people that they are whiners all the time show you don't have respect for other people opinnion



never said that my opinion is the truth mate , that's just you again spreading words don't making any sense

all i am trying to say mate stop being such a uptight litle whiney bitch about other people's opnion

and lol me trying to censorship your opinion fuck off mate
that is what you do here on this board for years already

It's called disagreeing, mate.

Look, it, up.






Why don't you fuck off, mate?

You're the one who had to post in this thread only to post your valuable comments regarding me.

Whiner.  :P



/jarmo

i do respond if people irritate me and tbh you do that
it's the way yo treat people
if you disagree with someone ya right there starting to call them whiners
GnR is just a band ( best band in the world for me  8) ) so try to keep it  nice . there are other ways to say ya disagree with someone without being a total bitch about it every single time 

and yes i responded to with calling you names  .  but hey you get treaten how you do others

Great.

I respond when I have something to say, either I agree or I don't.

Simple.



What way is that?

You talked to everybody I've dealt with recently?

I treat people who come to fan sites only to whine and ridicule the band one way, true fans another way.

It's quite apparent.

I don't feel like I have to go out of my way to be nice to somebody who has no respect for the band and/or this site (or what we do here).

Seems like a waste of time to me!




So? Why can't I? It's my opinion. Does my opinion bother you?

If somebody only posts when he/she can whine about something, I get that impression.

Others see that as being "real fans". I don't.

This shit happens every time. The so called real fans attack me for not allowing other opinions and then attack me for having an opinion on what they're doing!

Hilariously ironic!




I'm so sorry for being Finnish.  :P

I get to the point without kissing your ass first. I guess it hurts some of your online egos......



As far as I recall, I hadn't responded to you in this thread before you started calling me names. Weird.




/jarmo

It's fucked up how many bands out there, regardless of how big or small they are, maintain and use a Myspace account.

Everly sigle Myspace site is nothing but one java infested, poorly laid out front page that is way too large for it's own good. They all are painfull to use and annoying to look at.   Who the hell wants to maintain or use such ?!

Gnr's Myspace looks a lot like average GNR fansite circa 1998 used to look like.
Well, you didn't have 400000 morons going "OMG THX FOR ADD NOVRAIN 4EVA1!11!" on the front page of those sites.And you didn't have stupid Java windows all over the place.

I'm not saying that Del James or some other miserable groupie they have maintaining the site has done bad job, every single Myspace site sucks ass by default.
Why so many bands maintain and release updates through Myspace and even favor it over a real home site is a huge mystery to me.


Web 2.0 is ruining the world I tells you.

first  : who are you to judge who is a real fan or not. you always take that as ya big defense mate . so explain me what makes  a  real fan
and try to explain why are you the on to say who is .........

second you being offending to people in this thread was the reason  for me to start to reply in this thread
so no it ain't weird.

and please mate don't have to kiss my arse that some other people like that . go ahead ..
but keep away from mine

my ego doesnt need a boost from you

So its ok to promote Del's book when the band has activity, but not ok when they aren't?

Look, they did that before, nobody complained. It's not Del's fault if the band has nothing to say at the moment and I don't know why helping Del's book would be such a touchy subject.

 :hihi:


Way to make a long post just to throw that insult in.  :hihi: You remember mister! That's a "journalist" you're talking about.  :hihi:

guns can do with their myspace what they want

ofcourse would be more exciting to see news about the band
but hey it's their call to put on their what they want


(look jarmo ya can disagree with someone without saying they are whiners and nonfans .... )

To put things in perspective:

How many seconds did it take you to read the subject of the bulletin and compute that it didn't concern you?
Because you were:
A. Not interested
B. Don't live in the area
C. Both


Also, how many of these bulletins have you been getting lately? It's not like the GN'R Myspace page is used for spamming your valuable Myspace bulletin space with non-GN'R items...


Now, think about how much time you spent on typing posts about whining about what I mentioned above.






What is this judging shit?

I have my opinion on what a real fan means to me, you have yours.

Please tell me once again why that is a problem?





Maybe to me it's offending to see people whining about this when it would take way les time to read the bulletin subject, ignore it and move on!

Maybe that makes no sense to me!





/jarmo

I admit, if GNR were active it wouldn't be as big a deal. I think most people just got really excited to see a Guns N Roses bulletin *I know I did* and then  when u click it and see that, it is just another let down which leads to outrage cause u are reminded again of what could've been and probably won't be for a long time.

I don't think "U got the album, so shut up and enjoy it" excuse will last for too much longer. Bands make music and release albums...... That is their JOB so why should GNR get an extra pat on the back for something u are suppose to do?


My outrage is how a lot of u slam like Steven Adler for using GNR to promote himself but at least he contributed to one of the greatest albums of all time. So its ok for Del to use GNR to promote himself but not for a former member who actually contributed to the band's legend?

It just doesn't make sense.

This reminds me of all those who get upset when we remove a thread that we know isn't true.

Some are happy to spend days talking about something we know for a fact isn't true and/or we know won't happen!


Apparently some are happy to spend days talking about some little bulletin instead of doing the (in my opinion) sensible thing of looking at it, and moving on!



/jarmo

lol mate it's hard to see my point why keep babbling about the myspace thingie
i agree with you that pff let is passs  not a biggie
it's the way you respond to it and how ya call other people

and ya keep saying it's my opnion, respect it  

well do respect other people's opninion to mate.
sure ya allowed to disagree but that doens give ya the right everytime to call names and be such a litle bitch about it

last energy i put in this

go ahead response
ya finnish so :P  so have fun having the last word in this useless bitchfight

it's good to remove a rumour when it's not true  i agree on that , but maybe it's smarter to keep it up and verify it aint true
and why keep a forum about gnr if ya don't let people say their side of the story ( even if it's useless shit )
you also could choose not to read and respond to it .
ofcourse same is for me i could have ignored your insult to others and move forward

I guess it's hard to understand that I can use one single post to both respond in a general way and address your post...



The only bitch is the one who disregards the clearly stated reasons for the alleged name calling.  :P




It depends on the case.

Sometimes you don't want to bring more attention to certain things.





Because my idea of a fan site is a place for the true fans where they can go without having to be "afraid" of being ridiculed for being "ass kissers", "nut swingers", "brainwashed" or any other "cool" insults that are used about people who are truly supportive.

Ridiculing GN'R and/or their true fans isn't the kind of behavior I associate with a fan site or fan forum.






/jarmo

man i don't call people a arsekisser if they support gnr

it's you who is calling people whiners and not a true fan
if they don't agree with you

sure mate respond with what is the problem it's only my opinion

well sure  ya right 
but ya opinion sucks donkeyballs and that's my opinion mate
and i have just like you the need to speak my opinion .

Sorry, didn't mean you personally. That was more of a general statement.

There seems to be a feeling among some that in order to be a fan, you need to ridicule the artist, so you're not one of those brain washed uncool fans...

That's the kind of thinking I'm against.



No, I call the people who come to a fan site to whine about shit whiners.

Because that's the impression I get!

Maybe you don't agree because you see it as normal behavior.

But to me it makes very little sense.

I mean, if being a GN'R fan was that horrible, that I had to whine about it year after year, maybe I'd look for something else to do?

To me it seems like many people forget why they're GN'R fans in the first place and focus on the other stuff. No matter that they have gotten a great album to listen to, they chose to focus on Myspace bulletins... I bet nobody became a fan of GN'R because of their Myspace page? I mean, I bet most became fans because of the music.

Yet, here we are not talking about the music.....

The same goes for many other things. People choose to focus on other things. Like the lack of interviews or whatever else.

I understand that you might want to read new interviews, it makes sense. But still, the interviews aren't the most important thing. When you think about it.





/jarmo

sure i agree with you on some points jarmo

i am  fan cause of the music . love to talk about
but i also love to talk about the band  and what they are doing besides making a cd
i like to talk about why is there no tour and try to find a reason why my favourite band still ain't touring . not doing any interviews ( ok ron did some )
not saying they MUST do this . i just try to find it out with other fans. Why this is and meanwhile i am enjoying the music , watch the concerts en enjoy the vid's

and i can understand that sometimes people get frustrated bout things like this litle update . Cause nothing else is happening with their favourite band.
not saying that allows them to bash the band  ( not that i care if they do ), but certainly doesnt allow you either to go ahead and call everyone a frustrated whining non fan .

just my 2 cents

Remember the old adage as long as people are talking about you good or bad u are fine, it is when they stop talking about you u have to worry?

Sure a lot of people are negative about this current state of GNR but if u have ever noticed, as soon as Axl does something, the forums take a complete 180 and everyone is on board and supportive

so really, i don't necessarily think its bad when people have negativity, cause at least they still care enough to hang around.

Of course u will always have the small percentage that complain regardless whether its the setlist,starting time or whatever... but those are the types I ignore and don't worry about. Sometimes I think Axl pays too much attention to the small percentage of haters, instead of noticing how many supporters he has.

The whole 180 thing is interesting. Reminds me of those who support a team when they're winning.




You don't? I'm not talking about constructive criticism because that's a completely different thing.

It's bad enough if some think the negative way is the norm. How you should be.


How about the bigger picture? Just because you have a vocal group who like to complain about things they have no control over, does that mean the majority of GN'R fans are that way? No, it doesn't.

That's the thing. Just because you have a bunch of people screaming their lungs out, doesn't mean they represent the majority. Yet, they're the ones you notice....





/jarmo

I was talking more about the constructive Criticism types. There are some who will never be satisfied and I think they just post to fill their empty lives or whatever. Kind of like bitching about GNR takes their minds off of their miserable lives or whatever.

It is weird how negativity does seem to be more powerful than positivity.

Really though, you can substitute any sports team or just about anything else for GNR and it is the same. I have come to the conclusion that people absolutely love to complain.

U are right about the 180 Jarmo.. I've never been a fairweather or frontrunner fan with sports and I try not to be with GNR either. sometimes it is hard though.

the only way you become a fair weathered fan is if you jump ship on GNR when they arent doing anything and diss Axl, the band,, and CD as everyone else is doing the same. And if by chance they become "popular" again you act as if youve been there the whole time supporting.


The people on this board and the majority of the community as a whole are not fair weathered GNR fans. THey are people who have and continue to support GNR even while GNR are in another quiet period.

If GNR was a sports team in NY they would be the MEts right now. Turn on sports talk radio and tell me the people who are calling in "bashing", critiquing, etc, are fair weathered fans :no:

There is a huge difference between a fair weathered fan and a critical fan

whats the point in being negative?   are we fans or critics?   theres no reason to for it.  if you like the music, enjoy it. 

why does younggunner enjoy being a whinny crybaby?  :rofl: 

If I am ever negative, it is just because I want Axl to be back on top again. Maybe that is selfish but I don't really care. Having Axl active and doing stuff, enriches my life and makes it less boring.

I want to see him do good and get the recognition he deserves. when he goes AWOL it just gives more ammunition to the other side and it bothers me to see him "giving up" or at least that is how it seems.

it baffles me how people can be a fan of something and not care about its success......

I am a die hard Kentucky basketball fan. We are the all time most winning program in College Basketball history. The last couple of years we have sucked and last year we didn't make the tourney so u are damn right we were pissed and negative.

Can anyone here honestly say that you don't care how good their favorite team does in a season? if your team doesn't win a game are you happy with that cause a real fan doesn't care about their team's success?

I think fan outrage in most cases leads to the team becoming better.

doesn't always work in music I guess.

If you want somebody to succeed, does it help to constantly whine about him/her not succeeding with what you think he/she should succeed with (even though that person might have had different goals all along)?

How does ridiculing the band and/or their fans help the band succeed?

"They only sold so many copies", "that show didn't sell out!", "that guy can't play" etc. How does that help the band succeed?



As I said, just because a few are vocal doesn't make them the majority. We have a handful of posters who were apparently annoyed by this Myspace bulletin. It seems like the rest simple didn't care enough to bother replying.

That's the silent majority that doesn't get noticed as much as the vocal minority.

But I bet the majority get noticed in other situations. Like at shows. They're the ones having a great time while the vocal minority are busy looking for things they don't like....






/jarmo

to a point your correct. But when things are the way they are there is reason for it.

People can enjoy the product but question the operation. Its not that difficult of a concept.

Most people here, except for a select few, can completely enjoy CD and the shows but have their questions about all the inactivity and operation as a whole.

People want to see and hear from Axl. If he was out there now, with some sort of consistency then most of the "whining" would go away.

and that is why there is no need to apologize for being the kind of fan you are

seemingly some forum fans think bitching about evrey small thing about a band is supporting it.

i personally won't hate hearing this kind of news(from del or anyone in the gnr camp) more.

btw i just noticed the myspace page mention only black frog not uni/interscope/geffen as their label.

I'm not really interested in Del's book, but I don't understand why an announcement on the GNR myspace about it UPSETS people.   And I can understand why many GnR fans would be interested in Del's book, I'm just not much of a reader  :P

You don't like the silence and inactivity?  Well where the fuck have you been all these years?   Get used to it, as its part of being a GnR fan.  At the same time, part of the excitement for me is not knowning when Axl is going to come back and blow our minds again! 

I'm not much of a reader either. but it's nice to know what's up with the people in the camp once in a while.


he wants jarmo to babysit him. but jarmo just refuses.  :P

I think Axl confirmed himself that this isn't what even he had in mind for Chinese Democracy. I refuse to believe Axl's plan for CD was no video,tour etc

Im not saying that is his fault, but clearly something happened to make things not work out the way I am sure he and everyone involved intended.

I think most fans wouldn't care how much the album sold if it appeared Axl was giving his all to make CD a success. The fact it underperformed in people's eyes due to the lack of interest by the band is what gets everyone whining and upset.

I am a weird kind of fan I guess but when people i really support do well, it gives me a sense of pride and makes me feel good. Is that strange? maybe but I don't know, I feel a deep connection with this band and a few others and what they do matters to me more than it probably should.