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Sophie Vouzelaud

She came second at the Miss France contest, but the actual Miss France winner gives her the opportunity to go to Miss World in the hope that the jury sees one can be disabled but beautiful and help change people's ideas on disabilities.

Oh boy, now that is very nice!  Thanks Jessica.  Viva La France!!!  That's one hot chick.
 :peace:

Disabled my ass!   :drool:

well, when you hear her talk, she does talk like a person with a disability, but other than this, she is a good runner up, isn't she ?

I wanted HER to win, i thought she was better than the actual winner.

One of my old friends used to say his ideal woman would be a deaf-mute . He would freak over her , she is HOT . Hell , all french women are hot .

My God, she's so fucking skinny ! Why do you people find her so attractive???

I'm with you on that. She's a little on the thin side and far from being the epitome of sexiness.

I must say though, what Miss France did for Sophie was commendable, as is the ideal behind it. I think it's important for those at the fore of the fashion/beauty industry to promote as healthy a message about beauty as they can, even if it's something as categorical as attacking conventional ideas regarding disability.

I haven't seen other pics of her, but in this pic she is drop-dead gorgeous.  I don't buy into that whole, "she's too thin! she's promoting an unrealistic look for our young girls! blah, blah, blah."  In that pic she's nice and thin but still has a womanly curve...and a face that's to die for!   :drool:  I like my women a little more athletic, but damn, this chick 'll do.  ;)

On a side-note, some folks talk about the anorexic models being bad for our young women..........................how about the plus-sized models?  Jesus Christ!  Talk about promoting poor health.  Obesity kills tens of millions more than anorexia. 

European ladies are gorgeous.  France still has some work to do if they want to out-do Italy in hot women.   :peace:

Teaser: I'm half Italian/half Polish! Even better!!! ^

you mean if you saw her walking randomly down the street you wouldnt think she was hot ?

Somebody get this girl hamburger....

big deal she's skinny. who cares.

im pretty skinny for a guy. she'd be just the type of girl for me.

i say good on her and wish her luck.

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anorexy kills.

don't encourage it.

Maybe she has a fast metabolism.

she measures 1m80 cm, and is only 19, and at that age, a lot of girls are still thin and curveless, 19 is very young.
Especially if you grew fast and tall, my brother did and he was too thin, he eventually got weight in a few years later.
Some tall people are naturally that thin. Depends how fast they grew. If she took 25 cm in the last two years, she is bound to be thin.

anyway

actual miss france :

(http://zeniii.free.fr/blog/images/Articles/l2262119.jpg)

skinny arms on the deaf burd, likes.

   I swear to God I wouldn't !!


The actual Miss France is way hotter...





Have you actually been to Italy? The Italian women you see on TV or in magazines are NOT representative at all...hell, most of them aren't even Italian...if you want hot women come to Romania !

Sweden.

Further information is unnecessary.

 From what I've seen and heard, Romania, the ex-USSR countries and Sweden have the hottest women in Europe

Easteurope - for those who like their women moustachieful

  Now now....you've seen to many bad movies, my friend...you have no idea what you're talking about

Damn, let's agree that Europe in general has some very hot chicks...I forgot to mention a nation that sends over some hotties to the United States, the Czech Republic.   :drool:  The only problem is...I shit you not...they come over to our "fast food nation" and promptly put on 20 to 30 pounds. 

On topic, the French runner-up (in my opinion) has a prettier face than the winner.  Apparently, to determine the winner, it was like the game show Jeopardy, and unfortunately the final question was an Audio Daily Double.   :hihi:  okay, that was terrible.   :-[

Again, I'll repeat a story I probably posted here a few years ago.  It involved me asking a male patient of mine who happened to be a World War 2 veteran, "Where are the most beautiful women in the world?"  His answer..."ya flip 'em on over and they all look the same."  (with a big old smile on his face)  Mind you, this guy was 80-something years old and had served in the European theater of the war.   :rofl:
I did find out that "the Greatest Generation" was bagging European chicks faster than you can say D-Day!  I'm not among the 1st generation of Americans to find Europen chicks hot, hot, hot!   :hihi:   
 :peace:

"ya flip 'em on over and they all look the same."??  I don't get it...

when making love to a women "doggystyle" what their face looks like doesnt matter

  That's a rather sad conclusion to come to, after a lifetime of experience...I feel sorry for him

Or is it you that has seen to many movies? :-\

the actual winner is 1,000x hotter. 

I guess ya had to be there at the time...it really was funny.  You can look at it one of two ways, one: that's really how he felt, or 2 (and what I think is the more likely meaning), it was his sense of humor and he really knows that everywhere in the world has equally beautiful women.

My friends constantly have this discussion, and if you think about it, it's true.  Take the rich and famous women and stick them in really shitty environments with ragged clothes and poor surroundings, they won't look so pretty....and likewise with the poor getting all dolled up/teeth fixed etc.

Looks are fleeting, we all lose 'em eventually.  True beauty comes from within...and with that I hereby relinquish my man card.   :hihi:  But it really is true.


PS:  Then it's settled Butters, your intern is the winner and mine is the runner-up when we take the White House!   :hihi:

  I actually LIVE there !!!

nah, no frenchies in our whitehouse buddy!!!!  ;) 

don't worry, we won't be caressing their French thighs...they'll be called Freedom thighs!
 ;D

I'm glad you used the term 'making love.......doggy style.....' geez guys, that's one way to get the babes!  ::)

I am sorry  :'(

Anyways the deaf girl looks genetically defect.
The real winner looks more "natural", if that is a word that can be used when talking about beauty contests.

hahah classic.

They all look like they could use a good meal if you ask me...the girl that was deaf is positively skeltal :-\

(http://www.madisonbrooks.net/giggity.jpg)

^^I believe the line is ... "I would eat a mile of her crap just to see where it came from"  :hihi:

Hey, it aint easy...remember, she's deaf.  She can't hear the ol', "Come and get it!" or the ringing of the triangle to signal dinner-time.   ;D

Again, I'd have to see a different camera angle to determine if she's way too thin.  She's definitely too thin.  I like my ladies somewhat athletic.  Take for instance tennis superstar Maria Sharapova.  Her body is amazing and she's definitely on the thinner side.  :yes:

Giggity! Giggity!! indeed!!!   :drool:  "Lois, I'd do anything to you,"  "What!!?"  "Lois, I'd do anything for you."   :hihi:

i have to say this again, a lot of 19 year old VERY tall girls grew so fast they haven't put enough weight on.

See her in 4 years, she'll be a lot more normal.

  When you put a picture of her here, you can't expect anyone to judge her by potential, or how she'll look like in 4 years.

  Besides, going into modelling she'll probably be forced to look like a broomstick throughout her career...I see so many models who could be incredibly beautiful women, if ony they'd be less skinny. It's sad, an industry that's supposed to promote beauty, actually inhibits it.

that one aint beautiful at all :no:

If i may say something about that :

Most people who design clothes are male
most male designers are gay
most gays like their partners fairly young
or even VERY young
most young-ish men have straight bodies

Most designers design for women
most designers do not have fantasies OF/FOR women

The industry does not stop them because the industry is mentally sick
The industry is turning women's bodies into bodies of little boys
The industry is killing women and the fantasy seems like of one that slowly erases women out of the genetical map

WHAT DESIGNERS SHOULD NEVER FORGET IS THAT MOST CLIENTS ARE FAT OLD CURVY LADIES WHO HAVE HUSBANDS WHO FUCK ELSEWHERE AND WHO WANT TO STAY DESIRABLE.

WOMEN pay their salaries in buying clothes.

rant

thank you

i'm sick of how people always think it's acceptable to bash someone for being thin
anorexia and eating disorders are horrible, but i'm sick of skinny people being stigmatized no matter what
i'm skinny and all my life people have been commenting on it, what makes them think that is ok? a lot of people have high metabolism and can't really gain weight, it's genetic
for people with low self-esteem it can be very damaging to constantly get put down for being skinny
how would you like it if you were chubby and people kept telling you "slow down on the eating, you are much fatter than normal"
same fucking thing

dirtydozen, great post.  Instead of getting angry though, just laugh to yourself about how those same fat people will die earlier than you.  Their hearts will be overtaxed...their arteries will be filled with sludge...their risk of contracting cancer will be significantly higher than yours...they'll be injecting themselves with insulin in between their trips to the pastry aisles at the local grocery store in their power-wheelchairs.  Yeah, it sounds heartless, and it may be mean-spirited, but it's better than being dead.   :hihi:

Jessica, easy girl!  Settle down a bit.  If advertisers made more money with 600 pound porkers modeling their outfits, they'd use 'em.  If using plus-sized models (which really aren't plus-sized women, they're actually thinner than the average American woman here in the U.S.) made more people buy their clothes, they'd use them.  There is no gay conspiracy to keep women sticking fingers down their throats, suppositories up their asses, or chain-smoke cigarettes to stay thin...the only gay conspiracy I know of is to keep Tom Cruise and Clay Aiken safely in the closet.   :hihi:

Jessica, be proud that many of the most admired women in the world have muscular definition nowadays.  Women are playing professional sports, working out, and have great bodies to show for it.  Besides, there will always be a segment of the male population that digs fat chicks.  Did I say fat? 

Now, one more thing.  Jessica has a point.  Back when Elle MacPherson was in her prime she was a great model, but too thin for my taste...but then, she put on 30 pounds to do a movie called Sirens (one where she is completely naked) and became completely gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!
 :drool:  Yes, models are way too skinny for my taste, but did ya ever think they keep 'em that skinny because it doesn't take away from the outfit the woman is wearing?

How about guys complaining about the male models with 2% body-fat and 6-pack abs?  Umm....no, guys aren't complaining.  Who gives a crap?  Do guys throw hissy-fits complaining about unattainable bodies?  No, they realize it's all marketing.   ::)

It's not about bashing people for being thin. That wasn't my point anyway. Rather, it's about impressionable young women being "told" by the industry of beauty that their perfectly healthy and normal bodies are anything but. And when this happens, many young women are faced with a model (pun intended) that they can never live up to.

Anything else, such as the rest of your post and the pseudo-contrarian rambling of say, Axl4Prez, is an entirely seperate issue altogether.

i have to ask ya something....... what do you do besides post on these forums? cause your avg is a little better then 1/h since you joined the board.......whats your total time logged in?

I see.  When I applaud women who keep their bodies healthy the proper way, through good fitness and nutrition, you call that rambling.  Yet, you are allowed to give women a back-handed slap with the old, "impressionable young women," crap. 
Give women a little more credit MCT.  Many women out there understand it's all marketing...give me a break, you didn't find it the least bit funny that someone blamed the prevalence of ultra-thin models on some gay conspiracy? 

MCT, go hit a treadmill.  ;)  How the f you came up with pseudo-contrarian is beyond me. 

My basic points were these:  1:  the runner-up is hot.  2:  yes, she's a bit on the thin side.  3:  most people in the U.S. are overweight and that is a much bigger problem than anorexia/bulimia.     



 

She needs to eat something. 

Oh, stop it. Just like my original point...


...my impressional young women "crap" wasn't tabled as a be all and end all statement. It's simply a point, not an all-encompassing one. And it really couldn't be any simpler.

Now, while certain postings may not have been in direct response to mine, I still chose to take issue with them because they were in fact presented as theeeeeee issue. Fat is worse than skinny and that's that. Which is where "pseudo-contrarian" is derived from. You took (unintentionally I'm sure) a blanket stance contrary to my supposed blanket statement, but because my point was limited to a specific issue, your more general assessment was more of a pseudo-contrarian one to mine. The rambling bit was thrown in because I'm an asshole.


Obviously. But there's more than one YOUNG and IMPRESSIONABLE femalien out there who could fall victim to an inherently unhealthy message. And not just could, they do! And they have! It's a real issue. And you debase it with your...rambling.


Why? Don't ya think I'm sexy?

(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p241/MCTisalreadytaken/F1.jpg)

Come on, man! This is fuckin' TIGHT!!!

(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p241/MCTisalreadytaken/F2.jpg)

should have went down just a little further with the second pic ;D

Oh great, now I've got to live up to that almost unattainable physical condition you've gotten yourself into MCT.   :hihi:  Peace MCT, I enjoy your posts when they're not making fun of me or others.  Let me know when you're ready to tackle a nice long triathlon.  I'd be more than happy to show ya the ropes.  : ok: 
 
I just tried to point out the fact that the fashion world (like all business enterprises) revolves around making money.  If carting out 95 pound waifs sells clothes, bam, that's what we'll get.  Now, the average chick in the U.S. is overweight and out of shape and falls well above 25 on that scale.  Why do they like to buy more when it's advertised by self-inflicted famine victims?  Don't ask me how the female mind works.   ;D

If I'm not mistaken, I do believe I mentioned how bad anorexia/bulimia is/are.  Not to be an asshole, but I think it's very important for people to realize that the epidemic of obesity is killing and will kill more people than anorexia/bulimia will in the next thousand years.

The runner-up is still hotter than the winner.   :D

speaking of french people - where has Wat-ever gone?  I miss that guy.

Someone was very rude to him and none of us backed him up......

Interesting theory that jessica has....although I think theres a fairly big difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. Like when a guy is gay i'd say it means he wants to fuck men not boys....the same way most males would want a woman not a little girl.....

But a woman doing the act is quite a thing to behold.

when was this? how come i missed out on the fun! ;)

Except runway models really aren't selling clothes to consumers, they're selling to BUYERS.  BUYERS then judge the sizes, qty, etc they will put in their stores.  Maybe, for them, the waif/"human clothes hanger" look works, since, maybe, they want to see the garment, not the model wearing it.  Which of course goes back to Jessica's point about the industry really "minimizing" the woman in the dress.....

BUT, the industry is such a public ones, those runway shows (the big ones, anyway) become public spectacles.....

So, in this case, I'm not sure you can say it's about selling clothes to the consumers, even though the message is PASSED on to those consumers, in the end.


I don't think anyone disagrees with that.....but you can hardly call what passes for a "plus sized model" as obese.  There is a happy (and healthy) medium here.  Since the industry doesn't display and glorify pictures of obese women, I'm not sure how your point relates to this particular discussion.

what a f'ing retarded "industry" this is to begin with!!!  "beautiful" people selling clothes and accessories and getting paid millions to have their picture taken.  if people weren't such sheep this entire thread probably wouldn't exist.  :hihi:

I hope you're not expecting an argument from me on that one.....'cause you won't get one. I agree.

:)

not at all.  i never hope for an argument :) 

You don't have to live up to it, just admit to the world that you'd fuckin' hit this!

(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p241/MCTisalreadytaken/ThankYou.jpg)


Thank you, but you probably won't enjoy this one.


No thanks, I can't swim. But feel free to let me know when you're ready to put on the gloves. I'd be more than happy to give you a headache and general soreness in various parts of your no doubt statuesque body, you iron man, you.

Works both ways, don't it? Difference is, I never initiated any serious strutting, my pictures being a joke and all.

I'm no more in awe of the fact that you swim, bike and run as I am of the last log of shit that I flushed.


Came off more like pseudo-sublime crap to me, it being touted as the issue to end all others.

It's all here in this thread, so no need to rehash. Just tell me I'm a sexy beast and I'll walk.

I don't know man, I'm freaked out by web-cams...boxer briefs, well, I guess they are the in thing to wear you sexy beast!   :hihi:

I'm not looking to impress you big guy...my triathlon offer was a friendly offer.  In fact, I just started swimming at the beginning of '06.  I highly recommend it...when you hit your 30's like me (and b4 ya know it we'll be in our 40s) the body can benefit from exercise that's a little less stressful on your joints.

Quote Madagascar, "Where did all this hatred come from?"   :hihi:  MCT, I am extending an olive branch.  We can agree that the deaf runner-up is cute but too thin.  We can disagree on making weigh-in standards for the contestants.  We can agree that anorexia and obesity are problems.  We can disagree over how much more serious a problem obesity is compared to anorexia.....but we can all agree you are one sexy beast....hit that?  No, I'm not a violent person.  :hihi:
 :beer: