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Title: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: reed2009 on November 15, 2008, 01:16:19 AM
i was listening to 105.5 dha up in north jersey and the dj was talking about the cd and release and he said " we should be getting another single from those guys monday" anyone else hear of such a thing? i hope so!




edit by destry - added info

This is confirmed. "Better" was released to radio Monday, November 17th

Check out the new single here: http://www.q1043.com/pages/news/gunsnroses/better.html


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: RancidPunx on November 15, 2008, 01:24:02 AM
I hope it isn't Shackler's as that is the b side to ChiDem.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: grog mug on November 15, 2008, 01:24:19 AM
I haven't heard anything?  Are they just late on covering Chinese Demoracy the single?  I hope it's better, but I'm hearing its I.R.S.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: reed2009 on November 15, 2008, 01:30:46 AM
the station has been playing democracy since it came out so there not late......it just got my attention when the dj said that they would be getting a new single already......................well if its true it would be exciting


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: GNR4L on November 15, 2008, 01:36:08 AM
Hope its Better.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: prairie on November 15, 2008, 01:39:31 AM
No matter what it is, I hope it has a video.  I do think "Better" is the most radio friendly.  But that's just me.

prairieboy,


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: prairie on November 15, 2008, 01:44:28 AM
I haven't heard anything?  Are they just late on covering Chinese Demoracy the single?  I hope it's better, but I'm hearing its I.R.S.


grog,

I'm confused? 


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Buddha_Master on November 15, 2008, 01:45:42 AM
Hell yea, goddamnit. Bring it.

Yea prairie what the fuck? You hear about it or not? Make up your mind, man!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: grog mug on November 15, 2008, 02:19:12 AM
Just rumors at other boards.  I'm pretty sure it will be Better, but I.R.S. seems to be a single that might come along at some point.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: gunns1 on November 15, 2008, 04:34:14 AM
NOW I HOPE ITS BETTER


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: duga on November 15, 2008, 05:00:10 AM
Sorry or This I Love, please.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: russtcb on November 15, 2008, 06:48:05 AM
I'm really hoping Better is the next single.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Anywaythewindblows on November 15, 2008, 07:31:51 AM
I'm not worried about the next single. Better, IRS, whatever they choose will be ok. I think most important is that they support it with a videoclip.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: overmatik on November 15, 2008, 09:51:36 AM
It must be Better, it will be perfect.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: zombux on November 15, 2008, 10:39:35 AM
92.3 krock in ny says on mondayat 11, 2 ,and 5 they're debuting the new single BETTER!!!!
I bet that is going to be the first video too.

http://www.newgnr.com/forum/index.php?topic=36238.0


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: gnrrock on November 15, 2008, 10:45:37 AM
Can anyone else confirm this?  In two or three weeks two singles released would be intense.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Olorin on November 15, 2008, 10:46:02 AM
Better be Better, it just Better be!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Silverchair on November 15, 2008, 10:49:02 AM
I call BS unless there's hard evidence...


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on November 15, 2008, 10:53:49 AM
Conventional thinking says that we should probably not hold our breath (thank god GnR isn't known to follow conventional routes)...with plays of Chidem still rising in airplay charts, why would the label want to kneecap it by making fans choose between two songs - thereby ending rise of Chidem, and possibly watering down Better's potential?  Just a thought...I hope they do, since I just want to hear GnR, and could give a rats ass for charts, polls, etc.

I am also still clinging to idea that 'limited' AFD is re-record by 'new' band (yes, I know, I am reaching beyond the stars into another dimension on this one), however if it is, we would need a single on that as well, with 4 days till release.  :smoking:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: GNR4L on November 15, 2008, 11:10:58 AM
Smart move Azoff this song will make everyone a fan ! Better will be the best track on Chinese Democracy. 


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: cotis on November 15, 2008, 11:19:37 AM
I listen to 92.3 KROCK constantly here online, and haven't heard a thing all day. I went out for about 15 minutes before, but I haven't heard anything mentioned!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Chuzeville on November 15, 2008, 11:25:22 AM
I am also still clinging to idea that 'limited' AFD is re-record by 'new' band (yes, I know, I am reaching beyond the stars into another dimension on this one), however if it is, we would need a single on that as well, with 4 days till release.  :smoking:

Obviously not my decision to make but... releasing the rerecording Appetite just now would be suicidal.



Anyway, about Better as a single: it's catchy as hell... until we get to the screaming middle8 that is likely to make a lot of casual listener change the channel...
Or maybe they would edit that bit out.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: wight gunner on November 15, 2008, 11:26:09 AM
Maybe, just maybe not at this point but at a future date, releasing a single that's NOT on CD would be a master stroke.

 The General or Atlas Shrugged springs to mind. Imagine, 100's of 1000's of CD owning fans getting an opportunity to hear something not leaked, not available on any album and not live via Youtube, THAT WOULD ROCK  : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: GNR4L on November 15, 2008, 11:28:50 AM
Maybe, just maybe not at this point but at a future date, releasing a single that's NOT on CD would be a master stroke.

 The General or Atlas Shrugged springs to mind. Imagine, 100's of 1000's of CD owning fans getting an opportunity to hear something not leaked, not available on any album and not live via Youtube, THAT WOULD ROCK  : ok:

Can't get with ya on that one, doesn't make sense.  Don't wanna confuse the audience.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: cotis on November 15, 2008, 11:51:37 AM
CD was just played on KROCK, not a single mention of a new single by the DJ. I'd put this one down as false.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Ignatius on November 15, 2008, 11:54:10 AM
Smart move Azoff this song will make everyone a fan ! Better will be the best track on Chinese Democracy. 

I really doubt Azoff has any word on the single selection. Normally, this would be the label's decission.



Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: gnrjanus on November 15, 2008, 12:15:17 PM
there will be a new single. rumours are true thats all I'm going to say untill it get's official out there.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Howard2k on November 15, 2008, 12:23:58 PM
there will be a new single. rumours are true thats all I'm going to say untill it get's official out there.


Ditto.  I red it on teh interNetz so it has 2 be to tha truuth


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: reed2009 on November 15, 2008, 12:32:20 PM
im def thinking that there not rumors and its true about the new single monday, better would be the right choice for the first "real" single. chinese democracy was prob put out there so people new that it was guns n roses and now after a few weeks its time to put out Better with a video and win over more fans and the radio


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Skunk on November 15, 2008, 12:33:24 PM
Maybe the next one will be Shacklers, and then after that Better.
Then Street of Dreams, then If the World, then There Was a Time... and on and on straight through the album!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: cotis on November 15, 2008, 12:34:10 PM
there will be a new single. rumours are true thats all I'm going to say untill it get's official out there.

any proof or you just going to pretnd to know something? then when a new single comes out eventually, whenever that may be (I doubt Monday..) you'll come back and say "OMGZ I TOLD YOUS!"


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: estebanf on November 15, 2008, 12:45:19 PM
remember this?

Quote
08.26.02 - London Arena, London, England
opening act: Weezer
attendance: 12,500
set: Welcome To The Jungle, It's So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Live And Let Die, Think About You, You Could Be Mine, Guitar Solo [Robin], Sweet Child O' Mine, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Out Ta Get Me, Chinese Democracy, Madagascar, Rhiad And The Bedouins, Guitar Solo [Buckethead], Piano Solo, November Rain, The Blues, Acoustic Guitar Solo [Buckethead], Rocket Queen, Patience, My Michelle, Nightrain
encore: Guitar Solo [Robin], Paradise City
audio/video recording?: audio, video [incomplete]
notes: During 'Welcome To The Jungle,' someone tries to throw a KFC bucket onstage to Axl. Security throws the bucket back towards the crowd. Axl sees this and says, "Throw me that... hey!" Security then tosses the bucket on stage and Axl wears it for a little while. After 'Mr. Brownstone,' Axl says to the crowd, "How you doin? I'm doin' pretty good, thanks for asking. It's good to be here in lively old England. See you didn't even think I knew where I was! Um... I want to uh... I wanna say that I learned that I'm as big as a house! So I think I... I'm owed some rent money! I think that there?s a little pussy-ass writer over at NME that owes me some rent money... for livin' inside my ass! Uh, just... just playin' around. This is 'Live And Let Die!'" Before 'Think About You,' Axl asks, "You motherfuckers hot? OK now you're really hot, right? And you don't like ice in your soda? What's that about?!" After 'Sweet Child O' Mine,' Axl sees a sign in the crowd and asks, "Nick, there?s some guys here with a sign here that says 'Greece Loves You.' Sorry that's an inside - Nick's from Greece." Prior to 'Out Ta Get Me,' Axl says, "I'd also like to uh, to thank NME for helping us start things off on such a good note with a little piece called the 'Kings Of Hong Kong.' That was really nice, thank you." After 'Chinese Democracy,' Axl says, "Now, there's been some concern... that if we play 5 or 6 new songs, then there can't that many more on the album. Au contraire mon fr?re! We're just playin' the songs we're not considering putting out as singles or anything. So you'll get 18 songs and about 10 extra tracks. And when that... when the record company feels that has run [it's] source, then you'll get it all over again. And by that time, I should be done with the 3rd album! So we'll see if all goes well boys and girls! And if Uncle Axl proves not to be an asshole - we'll have to see, the jury's still out." He then turns to Tommy and asks, "Wait, was that a rant? Does that qualify as a rant or was that just nonsense? It was under 5? OK, it's... it doesn't qualify, wasn't long enough!" Before 'The Blues,' Axl jokes, "What's that smell? Did I shit my pants? What the fuck! I think I... I think I shit my riches! Uh, we're gonna keep the piano out. Bring down... Mr. Dizzy Reed. Mr. Dizzy Reed, please report to the black courtesy piano. Please report to the black courtesy piano, Mr. Dizzy Reed!" At the end of 'Paradise City,' Axl screams, "God save the Queen!" After he just drops his microphone in place, instead of hurling it into the crowd.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on November 15, 2008, 01:01:53 PM
I still think that there are several surprises in store for us...as Axl has said in his own words, apparently...but look at every weekend since the news first started breaking - the crazy's with free time start all their 'something big is happening Monday' rumors Fri/Sat...and things run wild all weekend...   :rant:

I will believe it when I hear it.  Either way next week is going to rock. : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on November 15, 2008, 02:16:05 PM
Oh hell, GNR can't go wrong with Better or IRS as the next single.
In fact, they would have been my first 2 singles.  :yes:
November 23rd, I love you!   :love:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: oldgunsfan on November 15, 2008, 02:17:20 PM
the skeptic in me has been silenced :-X :hihi:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: faldor on November 15, 2008, 05:21:33 PM
I'd be a little surprised if they'd release another single so soon with how well Chinese Democracy has been doing.  Then again, this is GNR.  They released 2 albums on the same day and that worked out alright.  2 singles in the top 10 or higher is well within reach.  I'm game!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on November 15, 2008, 07:57:07 PM
i hope its something that no ones heard yet like maybe one of those "big guns" we've always heard about. i'm Thnking Sorry or Scraped 8)



Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Chief on November 15, 2008, 07:59:05 PM
I definitely believe the next single should be Better.
i still love that tune... so catchy!!!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: circusboy666 on November 15, 2008, 08:32:39 PM
it's definately going to be better bc they know it will be well recieved and it could possibly get robin interested in getting back in camp.(since he wrote it)


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: The Estranged MrFlashbax on November 15, 2008, 09:21:39 PM
the radio DJ for 92.3 KROCK here in new york just said he's going to play a new track off Chinese Democracy on monday. Anyone know anything about this?


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on November 15, 2008, 09:47:52 PM
Strange that prior to 22nd there was official news, web ads, and all kind of hoopla...and now suddenly K-rock is the only station in the country to have a 'new single' for the band that is at least top 10 in every major market rock format?  Which DJ?  When was this claim made (is it available on streamcast)?  Anyone e-mail the DJ/station yet?  Why the K-rock exclusive?  A weekend fill in gets to make a major announcement for the weekday shows - with nothing on website?

Strange that these rumors always fly on the weekend, when there is nobody around to confirm/deny them.  I hope its true, but I have to believe it is bullshit.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: King Axl on November 15, 2008, 10:28:48 PM
I suspect that by 11/20, most rock stations will have the entire album, and therefore will choose to play what they please.

WAAF in Boston has been very good about playing up to six songs from a new record-that's exactly what they did with the new Metallica and AC/DC records upon receiving the respective albums.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Journeyman on November 16, 2008, 12:32:31 AM
Smart move Azoff this song will make everyone a fan ! Better will be the best track on Chinese Democracy. 

I really doubt Azoff has any word on the single selection. Normally, this would be the label's decission.



i think you are right. In most cases, its the label calling the shots along with the band (whent its a big band)


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: jazjme on November 16, 2008, 01:20:18 AM
I can only think if this is TRUE< is maybe because that the first listening party to happen is in NYC, Monday night, Im goin, who knows may be they will have a vid for it, Im just speculating.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: faldor on November 16, 2008, 11:23:36 AM
I can only think if this is TRUE< is maybe because that the first listening party to happen is in NYC, Monday night, Im goin, who knows may be they will have a vid for it, Im just speculating.
That's a good point.  Is K-Rock involved in the listening party in any way?  Maybe they'll use that as promotion for the event.  Play a NEW song on Monday to entice people to go to the listening party later that night.  That sounds logical to me.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: younggunner on November 16, 2008, 11:56:50 AM
I just called Krock and asked the DJ if "Better" is going to be the next single or if its just a rumor.....he says......


They will be debuting it tomorrow!....

I think his name is Aussie Dave. Hes going to be at the listening party, as well as Krock.



Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: uzisuicide2002 on November 16, 2008, 12:37:42 PM
I will call 94whjy Providence in the morning at work if i can. I did it the day CD came out and they didn't even know it. 10mins later it was on. So it there is a single or they get the album i'll find out monday on the Paul & Al show. Go to whjy.com monday morning to find out whats going on.  :beer:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: The Estranged MrFlashbax on November 16, 2008, 12:59:44 PM
i don't know the name of the dj. it was some dude with a british/australian (not sure which) accent. but they do seem to be saying "krock presents, chinese democracy listening party) and they've been giving away free tickets every couple of hours or so.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: wells on November 16, 2008, 01:23:22 PM
from another forum:

Quote from: axlnyc @ cd.com
I just heard another DJ on krock say they;ll be playing Better on Monday at 11 am, 2 pm, 5 pm and 8 pm.
If you can get a live stream go to www.923krock.com !!!

:)

v.. .


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: russtcb on November 16, 2008, 01:26:13 PM
I just called Krock and asked the DJ if "Better" is going to be the next single or if its just a rumor.....he says......


They will be debuting it tomorrow!....

I think his name is Aussie Dave. Hes going to be at the listening party, as well as Krock.



Wow. Good ther hear. Guess I'll be up bright and early tomorrow to see if anyone's playing it and streaming.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: reed2009 on November 16, 2008, 01:50:58 PM
yessssssssssssss ;D


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: faldor on November 16, 2008, 02:07:39 PM
I wonder if it's exclusive to K-Rock, or possibly a station in Dallas or Chicago to help promote the listening parties tomorrow night.  Or if it's a worldwide thing?  Seems only K-Rock is mentioning it.  Any word from any of the other cities having the listening parties?


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Chief on November 16, 2008, 02:08:01 PM
if true that is some kickass news!!!!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: bazgnr on November 16, 2008, 03:41:47 PM
Indeed.  And it's about damn time, too.   "Better" is surely the song from CD that will turn more people on to the album, and GN'R in general, than any other.  Here's hoping...


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: prairie on November 16, 2008, 04:35:31 PM
FYI - FMQB has no new GNR single listed.  FMQB is how we found out Chin Dem was going to be on the radio.

http://fmqb.com/article.asp?id=16697


prairieboy,


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: gnrjanus on November 16, 2008, 05:39:35 PM
There is a new single.
It's better that's obvious today.
tomorrow will have confirmation. period.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Olorin on November 16, 2008, 06:40:24 PM
No word on this? Lots of rumours circulating saying that radio stations are confirming that Better will hit the airways tomorrow.

I think that would shift quite a few extra copies of the album next week, 9 out of 10 cats love that song on first listen. Its much more radio freindly than CD, as successfull as that has been, Better will take the album launch up another notch in its final week of promotion.

The radio jocks will actually looking for an excuse to play it, rather than being prompted by phone ins -  as it is just so enjoyable and darn tooting good.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on November 16, 2008, 06:47:18 PM
I just called Krock and asked the DJ if "Better" is going to be the next single or if its just a rumor.....he says......


They will be debuting it tomorrow!....

I think his name is Aussie Dave. Hes going to be at the listening party, as well as Krock.



Thats awesome.  I was in the car all day today listening to 92.3 krock, and they've been promoting the hell out of the listening party today with contests and the "Bararck" blocks, playing lots of GN'R.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: BatVin on November 16, 2008, 06:53:24 PM
If is better coming tomorrow, I hope next single will be This I Love  along with CD release. (I know, only week for single like better is not enough, but Chinese Democracy need to sale well...and that is what TIL is gonna do. Maybe there is still no promotion, becouse CD will sell good first week well anyway. But then, there will be need to something like This I Love- song which could be good also on non-rock radio stations.)


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: grog mug on November 16, 2008, 08:47:57 PM
So is it true or not?  Anybody figure anything out?


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: younggunner on November 16, 2008, 08:54:14 PM
Quote
If is better coming tomorrow, I hope next single will be This I Love  along with CD release. (I know, only week for single like better is not enough, but Chinese Democracy need to sale well...and that is what TIL is gonna do. Maybe there is still no promotion, becouse CD will sell good first week well anyway. But then, there will be need to something like This I Love- song which could be good also on non-rock radio stations.)
patience my friend, patience

Quote
So is it true or not?  Anybody figure anything out?
Its true. tune in tomorrow at 11am   http://www.923krock.com/ (http://www.923krock.com/)


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Black Betty on November 16, 2008, 08:58:38 PM
Wrong single. Should of been Street of Dreams. Better is an album track not a single.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: younggunner on November 16, 2008, 09:04:52 PM
Completely disagree


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on November 16, 2008, 09:07:27 PM
Wrong single. Should of been Street of Dreams. Better is an album track not a single.

Sorry Black Betty...if it's Better, goddamn yes!!!!  Better is theeee single from the songs played live.  Trust me. 
Yes!   :beer:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Black Betty on November 16, 2008, 09:10:20 PM
You're absolutely wrong. It'll do fine :no:, but its not a single. Too long, people won't grasp the arrangement.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Black Betty on November 16, 2008, 09:12:19 PM
Should of hit the world with a ballad. That would of silenced all the critics. Its the most classic GNR song on the record.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: grog mug on November 16, 2008, 09:13:37 PM
I guess every station across the country/world will be playing "Better" tomorrow?  Will it also debut on iTunes?  I just don't understand the lack of promotion for this single if its really coming.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: leatherebel on November 16, 2008, 09:58:48 PM
Should of hit the world with a ballad. That would of silenced all the critics. Its the most classic GNR song on the record.

SOD is certainly a fine song but of all the ballads on the album it is clearly the simplest and the least punchy.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on November 16, 2008, 10:00:12 PM
I bet it is Better - the song is featured on the new widget.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: leatherebel on November 16, 2008, 10:23:33 PM
Well, apparently they are saving the best for later....should be an all uphill climb.  ;D


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Jim Bob on November 16, 2008, 10:36:22 PM
I bet it is Better - the song is featured on the new widget.

Better is a great choice.   

OMG remember that harley davidson ad 2 years ago with Better in it?   :hihi:   I always figured that would be the lead single.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Ulises on November 16, 2008, 10:41:27 PM
Wrong single. Should of been Street of Dreams. Better is an album track not a single.

What!!!!? Did you lose your mind? Better is THE single.


In fact...more single than Chinese Democracy itself.


Guns N' Roses will take over the world again with Better.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: KIKO2K6 on November 16, 2008, 10:55:25 PM
Better is  single hit material !


Bring on better bring on the bucket !!!! :D


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: falungong69 on November 16, 2008, 11:04:26 PM
lets face it... all these songs are hits.  axl should just release every song on the album as singles at once.  then he could set a record by being the first artist to have the top 14 singles on the rock charts at once.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: reed2009 on November 16, 2008, 11:09:31 PM
great choice from the guns camp! better is a great mainstream track


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: GNR4L on November 16, 2008, 11:10:36 PM
I think its pretty offical with those new widgets , that Better will hit the airwaves tommorow ! both those commericals have Chinese Democracy and Better on them ! the first two singles !!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: The Catcher on November 16, 2008, 11:17:48 PM
lets face it... all these songs are hits.  axl should just release every song on the album as singles at once.  then he could set a record by being the first artist to have the top 14 singles on the rock charts at once.

Haha, that made me laugh :hihi: I agree that the whole goddamn album is surely full of hits.

If this rumour indeed is true, that's way cool. Better is an awesome song, and a rocker like that will capture the whole world's attention for sure! :smoking:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: ThatGuy on November 17, 2008, 03:00:39 AM
street of dreams will most likely be the third single


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: BodyCount on November 17, 2008, 03:24:58 AM
http://www.q1043.com/pages/news/gunsnroses/better.html


it's AWESOME!!!! :D


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: tim_m on November 17, 2008, 03:27:01 AM
Well i guess we can definitely call this officially true!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on November 17, 2008, 03:32:46 AM
Better!

Talk about your one-two knockout punches in CD and Better!

AWESOME!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: w.axl.rose on November 17, 2008, 03:36:31 AM
Better!

Talk about your one-two knockout punches in CD and Better!

AWESOME!

hell yeah son. i hope they play it on kroq tomorrow.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: D on November 17, 2008, 03:37:03 AM
WOW the drums sound fantastic!

Way better than the leaks



The Ballad single has to be Prostitute. SOD is not a single in my opinion unless they've went back close to the RIR3 version.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on November 17, 2008, 03:37:17 AM
Better!

Talk about your one-two knockout punches in CD and Better!

AWESOME!

hell yeah son. i hope they play it on kroq tomorrow.

Dude it sounds 4258425 times better than the last time I heard it!

I love what they did with the breakdown in the middle, fucking dive bomb straight to hell!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: D on November 17, 2008, 03:38:47 AM
This will shut up the bitches who dissed Axl's voice on CD.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: tim_m on November 17, 2008, 03:39:15 AM
WOW the drums sound fantastic!

Way better than the leaks



The Ballad single has to be Prostitute. SOD is not a single in my opinion unless they've went back close to the RIR3 version.

I don't know it kinda reminds me of Estranged and that was a great single IMO.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: tim_m on November 17, 2008, 03:40:20 AM
Yeah they can't say he can't hit those notes after listening to this now and if they do they're just stupid haters.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on November 17, 2008, 03:41:28 AM
Just saving the big guns for the right time.  : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: BodyCount on November 17, 2008, 03:41:56 AM
This song has so much going on...

And that's with streaming quality! omg, all this drumming, guitar and synth work...

And NONE of the instruments drown in the arrangement an mixxing,

Axl sounds great!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: w.axl.rose on November 17, 2008, 03:42:42 AM
WOW the drums sound fantastic!



thats the first thing i noticed about this song when i heard the 30sec clip off some site.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on November 17, 2008, 03:48:45 AM
WOW the drums sound fantastic!



thats the first thing i noticed about this song when i heard the 30sec clip off some site.

Fucking Frank man, he's done some incredible work in the small amount of time he has been with the other Gunners.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: waxlrick on November 17, 2008, 04:19:30 AM
Oh hell Yeah! Better is the right choice! and it sounds even "better" now.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Chuzeville on November 17, 2008, 04:22:15 AM
great choice from the guns camp! better is a great mainstream track

So am I the only worried that the shouting bit could put the mainstream audience off? TBH, as catchy as the rest of the track is, it kinda puts me off.  :drool:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: tim_m on November 17, 2008, 04:53:22 AM
great choice from the guns camp! better is a great mainstream track

So am I the only worried that the shouting bit could put the mainstream audience off? TBH, as catchy as the rest of the track is, it kinda puts me off.  :drool:

Yep you're the only one.  :hihi:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Nightrain7 on November 17, 2008, 04:54:21 AM
great choice from the guns camp! better is a great mainstream track

So am I the only worried that the shouting bit could put the mainstream audience off? TBH, as catchy as the rest of the track is, it kinda puts me off.  :drool:
Thats the best damm part of the song!!!!!!!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Chuzeville on November 17, 2008, 04:56:43 AM
great choice from the guns camp! better is a great mainstream track

So am I the only worried that the shouting bit could put the mainstream audience off? TBH, as catchy as the rest of the track is, it kinda puts me off.  :drool:

Yep you're the only one.  :hihi:

Good!  :peace:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Olorin on November 17, 2008, 04:59:17 AM
So will this song be played around the world today like CD was or just in the US?


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: tim_m on November 17, 2008, 05:02:43 AM
I would assume around the world but whoknows for sure.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: GNRfan2008 on November 17, 2008, 05:07:40 AM
Just saving the big guns for the right time.  : ok:

This is the biggest gun of them all from a mainstream standpoint.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Billo on November 17, 2008, 05:15:17 AM
Better is an AWESOME pick for second single  : ok:

http://www.q1043.com/pages/news/gunsnroses/better.html



Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: willow on November 17, 2008, 05:37:38 AM
Sweet! I just keep smiling. That rocks!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: minto on November 17, 2008, 05:42:22 AM
Anyone in the UK listened to this yet?  the link wont work for me!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: tim_m on November 17, 2008, 05:50:46 AM
Anyone in the UK listened to this yet?  the link wont work for me!

Try using a proxy site like this. http://www.xroxy.com/


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Olorin on November 17, 2008, 05:54:54 AM
Works fine for me in the uk.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: BodyCount on November 17, 2008, 05:55:30 AM
Nope, won't play here anymore... makes connection, then says ready,  :-[


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Olorin on November 17, 2008, 05:58:54 AM
http://www.q1043.com/pages/news/gunsnroses/better.html

Works for me.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Shaggins13 on November 17, 2008, 06:01:47 AM
Nope, won't play here anymore... makes connection, then says ready,  :-[

ME TOO!!!  AAARRGGGHHHH!!!  I'm supposed to be at the gym right now.  LOL


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Giant_Robot on November 17, 2008, 06:05:18 AM
Nope, won't play here anymore... makes connection, then says ready,  :-[

ME TOO!!!  AAARRGGGHHHH!!!  I'm supposed to be at the gym right now.  LOL
Works for me !

What a awesome second single ! Thanks GN'R !

Better Rules !!!!!!!!!!!

This track is mind-blowing  :yes: :)

 :beer:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: gunns1 on November 17, 2008, 06:13:27 AM
cant wait to see a music video for better!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Boromir on November 17, 2008, 06:27:19 AM
cant wait to see a music video for better!

Is there supposed to be one?


Title: GUNS N' ROSES: New Song 'Better' Available For Streaming, roadrunnerrecords.com
Post by: thomas on November 17, 2008, 06:30:29 AM
Another song off GUNS N' ROSES' long-awaited new album, "Chinese Democracy", "Better", received its world premier this morning (Monday, November 17) on a number of U.S. stations, including Q104.3 FM, which is currently streaming the track at this location.

"Chinese Democracy" will be released in the U.S. on November 23 exclusively through Best Buy. The 14-song set will be available on CD, vinyl, and as a download. While singer Axl Rose has remained silent, co-managers Irving Azoff and Andy Gould said in a statement, "The release of 'Chinese Democracy' marks a historic moment in rock n'roll. We're launching with a monumental campaign...that matches the groundbreaking sound of the album itself. GUNS N' ROSES fans have every reason to celebrate, for this is only the beginning."

One new song, "Shackler's Revenge", debuted on September 14 through the Rock Band 2 video game, while another, called "If The World", can be heard in the new film "Body of Lies".

"Chinese Democracy" is the first album of new material from GUNS N' ROSES since 1991's "Use Your Illusion I" and "Use Your Illusion II".

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=109038


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Maxi Fisher on November 17, 2008, 06:40:31 AM
Lot of new guitar work in this version  : ok: : ok: : ok: : ok:


Gn'R kickin ass in 08/09  :beer:



Heard on triple m in Brisbane that HMV are doing a midnight release. Triple M are also giving away copies of CD in competitions - things are moving down here finally


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: bazgnr on November 17, 2008, 06:52:05 AM
Indeed, especially right before the "All that I wanted..." part.   I like that it helps bury the weird bubbling noise a bit.   All the added guitars sound great, in my opinion.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Nytunz on November 17, 2008, 06:54:46 AM
is the song released international? anyone heard it on radio in other contries?


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: bushkarocks!! on November 17, 2008, 07:15:12 AM
maybe get rid off the ? mark in the title


 :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Ignatius on November 17, 2008, 07:24:45 AM


Is it me or the effects on 3:16 till 3:19 weren't there before?

Better is so awesome!

The drumming now is perfect. It's mean and it rocks.

I don't know about you but if I find myself air drumming to a particular song it's a sign that it's got the right groove and rythm. I can't wait to hear the druming in CD...if it's going to be this mean I'll be blown away.



Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: pilferk on November 17, 2008, 07:49:06 AM
http://www.q1043.com/pages/news/gunsnroses/better.html

Works for me.

Hope it's still there when I get home tonight...stupid work network blocks it.

Can't wait to hear it!!


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: ben9785 on November 17, 2008, 07:49:24 AM
I stopped listening to the circulating versions of the songs around the time of the Best Buy convention was reported, so its been a while for me.. reacquainting myself with the songs..

I always loved "Better" before, but fucking hell man..wow..

The live drums give it some real punch and groove.. the chorus sounds so much stronger with the groove and the nasty rhythm guitar.. i love the wall of guitars during the bridge.. and a little bit of lead by Bumblefoot at the end of the verses..

Sounds deadly.. Will be even better to hear it on the album.. without the "You're listening to on demand" robot bitch coming up during the song


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: russtcb on November 17, 2008, 07:57:05 AM
I love that they added the guitar to the "transition" part like they were playing it live in late 06. Plus, I'm excited that Franks bad ass drum fill was added to the last chorus!!   :beer:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: kuetastic on November 17, 2008, 08:05:26 AM
Lot of new guitar work in this version  : ok: : ok: : ok: : ok:


Gn'R kickin ass in 08/09  :beer:



Heard on triple m in Brisbane that HMV are doing a midnight release. Triple M are also giving away copies of CD in competitions - things are moving down here finally

Triple M are reporting that Axl has fired Robin and Brain days before the release.  ::)


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: kuetastic on November 17, 2008, 08:07:51 AM
It doesn't seem as raw and powerfull of a rocker as it once did but it stinks of commercial success and it has a lot of to keep your interest throughout the entire track, no low periods at all.  : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Spirit on November 17, 2008, 08:09:19 AM
Power 97 just played it... they are taking calls in a minute. The DJs liked it!  :smoking:

http://corusmedia.media.streamtheworld.com/player/Player.htm?id=cjkrfm&city=Winnipeg&bdskey=4784&url=http://www.power97.com&platform=EMMISAM&active=true (http://corusmedia.media.streamtheworld.com/player/Player.htm?id=cjkrfm&city=Winnipeg&bdskey=4784&url=http://www.power97.com&platform=EMMISAM&active=true)


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on November 17, 2008, 08:20:50 AM
Streamed Better- some subtle changes for the better ( pun intended) compared to the leak version.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: gilee7 on November 17, 2008, 08:22:00 AM
On one of those VH1 Classic shows like Heavy: The History of Metal or the 40 Greatest Heavy Metal Songs, when talking about GNR, one dude (I think it was Eddie Trunk) said something along the lines of: "Guns N' Roses proved that you could be a dangerous, gritty rock n' roll band but still write catchy songs."

I'm reminded of that quote when listening to "Better," a song that's very heavy, yet incredibly catchy. Some of the other leaks had to grow on me, but "Better" had that punch-to-the-face, kick-to-the-balls, oh-my-God-this-is-fucking-awesome! moment from the very first listen. First time I heard it, I was walking around singing it to myself for days. Hopefully millions of listeners all over the world will be doing the same once they hear this single.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Spirit on November 17, 2008, 08:23:04 AM
If I remember correctly, Power 97 played Chinese Democracy once every hour when it first came out.

Hope they'll do the same with Better 'cause the bitrate there is higher than the 'on-demand stream'.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Grizzly on November 17, 2008, 08:23:53 AM
Heard the stream at q1043.com once, will wait until saturday to hear it again in high quality version. Don't think that the low quality stream does the song justice.

But anyways...OMG! Can't wait.  : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: russtcb on November 17, 2008, 08:33:45 AM
Power 97 just played it... they are taking calls in a minute. The DJs liked it!  :smoking:

http://corusmedia.media.streamtheworld.com/player/Player.htm?id=cjkrfm&city=Winnipeg&bdskey=4784&url=http://www.power97.com&platform=EMMISAM&active=true (http://corusmedia.media.streamtheworld.com/player/Player.htm?id=cjkrfm&city=Winnipeg&bdskey=4784&url=http://www.power97.com&platform=EMMISAM&active=true)

Thanks for this. Listening live now. (The "Wherever I May Roam" I might add, I haven't listened to this song in AGES)

Hopefully they play it or talk about it again soon.

Thanks again!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: wells on November 17, 2008, 08:55:29 AM
wow, wow, wow... amazing, just listened... better around 3 minutes and 16 seconds ... I just had the biggest grin  ;D on my face since I don't know when ... go, go :)

v. ..


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Hatts on November 17, 2008, 08:56:45 AM
Has this single been released to every radio station or just k-rock?





Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: russtcb on November 17, 2008, 09:08:54 AM
I haven't heard it on this Power97 yet but as far as people are saying it's been played on Power97 & Q103.4


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Spirit on November 17, 2008, 09:11:51 AM
I haven't heard it on this Power97 yet but as far as people are saying it's been played on Power97 & Q103.4

They say it's been played on WAAF as well. The DJs apparently loved the track.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Oasis1 on November 17, 2008, 09:13:08 AM
97.7 HTZ FM in Ontario Canada played it this morn. The DJs liked it and it sounded great (the leaks did the song no justice).


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: LittleFly on November 17, 2008, 09:16:03 AM
Holy fucking SHIT that fucker rocked!!!!!!

This has been my favorite for a long time, and it's just bigger and badder then it was before.  I listened to it at work just now on my headphones, so I couldn't really express myself as much as I would have liked to  :hihi:  I sent at least 2 people away while I was listening.  "Not right now...I'm doing something!!"  :rant:

I just cannot wait to listen to this one at home!  My daughter will also love it, it's her favorite too  :love:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Hatts on November 17, 2008, 09:17:42 AM
Is there any other way I can hear the track?  That fucking website never works for me!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 17, 2008, 09:23:47 AM

Guns N? Roses Single Better From Chinese Democracy

written by So Hood Magazine at November 17, 2008, 4:21 am

I?ve just received the single ?Better? from the upcoming Guns N? Roses album Chinese Democracy early this morning, and I figure that radio stations have begun playing it within minutes of receiving it also. ?Better? sounds awesome, too bad for most, hearing it on the radio doesn?t do it justice. This is really a catchy tune, and it?s radio friendly I could see this catapulting the album.

http://www.sohood.com/crib/2008/11/17/guns-n-roses-single-better-from-chinese-democracy/

 :beer:



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Moonlight J on November 17, 2008, 09:25:11 AM
It'd be cool if they would stream it on the GNR site, or even the GNR myspace. Perhaps by day's end, who knows? Hint hint... : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: russtcb on November 17, 2008, 09:28:17 AM

Guns N? Roses Single Better From Chinese Democracy

written by So Hood Magazine at November 17, 2008, 4:21 am

I?ve just received the single ?Better? from the upcoming Guns N? Roses album Chinese Democracy early this morning, and I figure that radio stations have begun playing it within minutes of receiving it also. ?Better? sounds awesome, too bad for most, hearing it on the radio doesn?t do it justice. This is really a catchy tune, and it?s radio friendly I could see this catapulting the album.

http://www.sohood.com/crib/2008/11/17/guns-n-roses-single-better-from-chinese-democracy/

 :beer:



Awesome.

I'm really hoping this is on iTunes or Napster much faster then CD was. I wanna hear this in perfect quality ASAP!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: overmatik on November 17, 2008, 09:49:08 AM
Now that was a smart move for CD promotion. Despite "Catcher" being my favorite song on the album, it's a fact that no other song in it has the potential to become a hit for GNR more then Better. Waiting for the video now, so the fuckers at MTV may do some promotion! ;D


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: 123191 on November 17, 2008, 10:15:13 AM
Lot of new guitar work in this version  : ok: : ok: : ok: : ok:


Gn'R kickin ass in 08/09  :beer:



Heard on triple m in Brisbane that HMV are doing a midnight release. Triple M are also giving away copies of CD in competitions - things are moving down here finally

Triple M are reporting that Axl has fired Robin and Brain days before the release.  ::)

Their "source" is the myspace update if you read the post on the Triple M Sydney website.  Not real news.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: estebanf on November 17, 2008, 10:21:47 AM
loved the drumming, the new sfx, and there's a very nice vocal modification at the ''ALL that I wanted [...]'', sounding exactly like ''ALL my salvation'' from Rhiad. KILLER tune.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: faldor on November 17, 2008, 10:36:39 AM
I never liked "Better" quite as much as everyone else seemed to but it sounds awesome streamed online.  I can't wait to hear it on the radio for real.  Hopefully I can catch it on Sirius Octane sometime today.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: MrMojoRa on November 17, 2008, 10:43:15 AM
Better is fuckin' BETTER yeah!!!

There's a little Jimmy Page-ish slide action there in the last 3/4 of the song.

Axl's vocals are crisper in a couple sections.

Can't fuckin' wait to hear what they added to the rest of the songs.

I just ripped up the carpeting in my living room to have hardwood floors again.  Just in time for some killer acoustic sound on Sunday when I rock this normally quiet/subdued neighborhood that surrounds me with the sounds of Chinese Democracy.   


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Mr. Nik™ on November 17, 2008, 10:45:58 AM
it seems that videos for both singles are ready and waiting for definitive "OK, go!" by Axl

(from a Universal source)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: axl2 on November 17, 2008, 10:51:50 AM
Umm Link?


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: jarmo on November 17, 2008, 10:53:32 AM
Umm Link?


Link to what?



/jarmo


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: GNR4L on November 17, 2008, 10:56:23 AM
I love Ron's slide, compared to the Pitman's weird noise effects.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Buddha_Master on November 17, 2008, 10:56:40 AM
Ok... that was fucking cool. Really wish I didn't have to hear it streaming but I agree with you fine people. This final mix is way Better. This song sounds great. I love that slide too hehe, that is awesome.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Eazy E on November 17, 2008, 10:57:19 AM

I think he means this:

it seems that videos for both singles are ready and waiting for definitive "OK, go!" by Axl

(from a Universal source)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: jarmo on November 17, 2008, 11:00:18 AM

I think he means this:

it seems that videos for both singles are ready and waiting for definitive "OK, go!" by Axl

(from a Universal source)


Yeah, I think so too.

But if there was a link to be posted, I think it would've appeared in the post....

"A Universal source" doesn't sound like something found on the Internet. ;)




/jarmo


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Mr. Nik™ on November 17, 2008, 11:01:47 AM
Yeah, I think so too.

But if there was a link to be posted, I think it would've appeared in the post....

"A Universal source" doesn't sound like something found on the Internet. ;)


indeed, it's a info collected by phone


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Eazy E on November 17, 2008, 11:02:41 AM
But if there was a link to be posted, I think it would've appeared in the post....

"A Universal source" doesn't sound like something found on the Internet. ;)

I see, good point.   :hihi:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Skunk on November 17, 2008, 11:03:37 AM
They're playing it on Krock now...  :drool:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Axlspants on November 17, 2008, 11:06:47 AM
Thats is some song alright, just listened to it on the computer, can't wait for the album its gonna be so cool. I love the guitar solo in Better, don't know who plays it but it is amazing. great feel  :peace:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Jimmy? on November 17, 2008, 11:08:50 AM
Thats is some song alright, just listened to it on the computer, can't wait for the album its gonna be so cool. I love the guitar solo in Better, don't know who plays it but it is amazing. great feel  :peace:

the solo with "great feel" would be a Mr Robin Finck


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Olorin on November 17, 2008, 11:09:06 AM
Any airplay in the uk yet?

How does it work anyway, do the stations get an actual cd sent out snailmail or an mp3 file emailed?

It would a bit shoddy if they just played out the stream we can all get.



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: reed2009 on November 17, 2008, 11:10:37 AM
JUST LISTENED ON 923 KROCK!!!!! best time ever for us gunners! :peace:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: younggunner on November 17, 2008, 11:10:45 AM
That was cool to finally hear Better on the radio. They made some changes but it still is great. I miss the gulping effects though :'(, rather have that then the slide.

This song will silence all the critics


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Jimmy? on November 17, 2008, 11:12:55 AM
Any airplay in the uk yet?

How does it work anyway, do the stations get an actual cd sent out snailmail or an mp3 file emailed?

It would a bit shoddy if they just played out the stream we can all get.



It appears as though Zane Lowe will showcase it tonight on Radio 1.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/zanelowe/


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Hatts on November 17, 2008, 11:15:26 AM
Yeah, I think so too.

But if there was a link to be posted, I think it would've appeared in the post....

"A Universal source" doesn't sound like something found on the Internet. ;)


indeed, it's a info collected by phone

So what's the news on these videos?


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: GNR4L on November 17, 2008, 11:16:12 AM
This song is gonna make new fans ! and the fan's who were alway's fans, this song tell us THEIR BACK !!!!!  :beer:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Jimmy? on November 17, 2008, 11:17:16 AM
Yeah, I think so too.

But if there was a link to be posted, I think it would've appeared in the post....

"A Universal source" doesn't sound like something found on the Internet. ;)


indeed, it's a info collected by phone

So what's the news on these videos?

There is no news, however someone posted above that they'd heard from a source at Universal that they are just waiting for the go ahead from Axl to release 2 videos.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Skunk on November 17, 2008, 11:17:34 AM
The Krock DJ said Better is getting "quite a spirited reaction" and he quoted two, and then played a third positive reaction... he also added that he personally liked it.

 :peace:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Hatts on November 17, 2008, 11:18:30 AM
Oh I see.  It sounded like someone knew their were two new videos already made.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Vitor_Icewall on November 17, 2008, 11:19:40 AM
If you go to www.myspace.com/gunsnroses , you can watch a short video with GNR on the stage n backstage! It also play better!

Great stuff!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: GNR4L on November 17, 2008, 11:20:57 AM
If you go to www.myspace.com/gunsnroses , you can watch a short video with GNR on the stage n backstage! It also play better!

Great stuff!

I think that is part of the music video, I guess we will wait and see.

PS its just a guess, I don't know if its the video.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: bolton on November 17, 2008, 11:22:19 AM
Great,better rocks

did you except bith videos,or only one


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Vitor_Icewall on November 17, 2008, 11:29:31 AM
If you go to www.myspace.com/gunsnroses , you can watch a short video with GNR on the stage n backstage! It also play better!

Great stuff!

I think that is part of the music video, I guess we will wait and see.

PS its just a guess, I don't know if its the video.

I think it too.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Mr. Nik™ on November 17, 2008, 11:30:01 AM
Yeah, I think so too.

But if there was a link to be posted, I think it would've appeared in the post....

"A Universal source" doesn't sound like something found on the Internet. ;)


indeed, it's a info collected by phone

So what's the news on these videos?


the source said the videos are ready. no details given.

I don't pretend it's "confirmed", I only reported this.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Hatts on November 17, 2008, 11:31:47 AM
Yeah, I think so too.

But if there was a link to be posted, I think it would've appeared in the post....

"A Universal source" doesn't sound like something found on the Internet. ;)


indeed, it's a info collected by phone

So what's the news on these videos?


the source said the videos are ready. no details given.

I don't pretend it's "confirmed", I only reported this.

Hey man I believe it!

Very cool news thanks for posting.  Keeps us informed!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Olorin on November 17, 2008, 11:34:39 AM
Thanks GNFNR and Jimmy -  Zane Lowe Show it will be for me tonight :peace:

I remember he played the first single on the day it came out, he thought it was good but not great, he also said he had heard some leaked material last year that he liked better.

I wonder what he will make of this tonight.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on November 17, 2008, 11:34:58 AM
Wow, just woke up and heard 'Better' - GnR continues to defy convention, and make a path of their own...marketing wise.  I hope Better and Chidem do not dilute charting...with quality of this song, however, I would imagine it will surpass CD rather quickly.

If this was NOT GnR - my first thought this morning would have been 'This band fucking rocks'...instead, I just had to smile to myself, and say: Axl did it again.   :yes:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Albert S Miller on November 17, 2008, 11:38:05 AM
Woke up, sun is shining, a great second single, this Monday just couldn't be better :yes:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Annie on November 17, 2008, 11:44:09 AM
I Just heard it! IT"S SO AWESOME! I was screaming like those crazy girls at the TWILIGHT premiers!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: GNRFanatic on November 17, 2008, 11:51:46 AM
The new single is kick ass!  I just heard it today.  You guys are right, they made a wise choice picking Better as their new single.  I've been trying to get my buddies into GnR for a while, and today I got them to listen to the new single and I think I made fans out of them yet    : ok:

Anyway, gotta share the wealth, of course.  I found the single here: http://www.iheartmusic.com/cc-common/mfeatures/gunsnroses2OD (http://www.iheartmusic.com/cc-common/mfeatures/gunsnroses2OD)

I'm telling you, as soon as I heard the first few seconds, I knew it wasn't going to disappoint.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: axl32rose on November 17, 2008, 12:01:17 PM
Better is just so much Better than anything on else on the radio these days.   :drool:

Guns N' Fuckin Roses are back!!!!!!

im sure lots of you guys and gals agree  : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Annie on November 17, 2008, 12:05:32 PM
Better is just so much Better than anything on else on the radio these days.   :drool:

Guns N' Fuckin Roses are back!!!!!!

im sure lots of you guys and gals agree  : ok:
I do!!!!! I'll never forget singing BETTER to some black sheep in Haworth, England. I wish I had a video!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: FlashFlood on November 17, 2008, 12:11:47 PM
it is playing this very second on waaf.com


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: destry rides again on November 17, 2008, 12:14:48 PM
Better is just so much Better than anything on else on the radio these days.   :drool:

Guns N' Fuckin Roses are back!!!!!!

im sure lots of you guys and gals agree  : ok:

I couldn't agree more.

What a beautiful fucking day!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Jim Bob on November 17, 2008, 12:16:25 PM
they hit a home run with this song.   Can't stop listening to this, its like the first time all over again.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Annie on November 17, 2008, 12:17:13 PM
they hit a home run with this song.   Can't stop listening to this, its like the first time all over again.
I feel the exact same way!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: *Timothy* on November 17, 2008, 12:17:39 PM
The song is awesome.

can't wait for Sunday to come.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: axljungle on November 17, 2008, 12:24:13 PM
I heard Better a lot of times today in this link http://www.q1043.com/pages/news/gunsnroses/better.html
Very good!!!!
Now we need the video for this song  8)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: GunnerOne 84 on November 17, 2008, 12:30:55 PM
I just directed my friend (who HATES axl and gnr) to this song, and he LOVES it.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: LeftToDecay on November 17, 2008, 12:31:54 PM
I'm super curious to see how well this sinks in for public.
Such a kick ass song. Relieved the version that has been out there for a while now  was more or less final.
.....I could live without the " I never wanted you to..." parts tho:P



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: mrarkadin on November 17, 2008, 12:37:48 PM
I read where Michael Stipe said Bowie's Ashes to Ashes was the best pop song ever written because it has 3 or 4 moments that are absolutely distinct, each fixing themselves in the listener's brain for hours afterward--a song that fulfills every sonic expectation. That's how I feel about Better. It has every element I've ever wanted in a pop/metal/hard rock song all rolled into one. It's a perfect song.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Skunk on November 17, 2008, 12:55:54 PM
I'm super curious to see how well this sinks in for public.
Such a kick ass song. Relieved the version that has been out there for a while now  was more or less final.
.....I could live without the " I never wanted you to..." parts tho:P



Interesting that people seem split on this... it's my favorite part of the song!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: AxlsMainMan on November 17, 2008, 12:57:43 PM
It's freakin' awesome ;D


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: CheapJon on November 17, 2008, 01:04:12 PM
cool commercials and little video on the myspace, i bet the backstageclips and from download is from a DVD and shit though :drool:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: destry rides again on November 17, 2008, 01:06:46 PM
I'm super curious to see how well this sinks in for public.
Such a kick ass song. Relieved the version that has been out there for a while now  was more or less final.
.....I could live without the " I never wanted you to..." parts tho:P



Interesting that people seem split on this... it's my favorite part of the song!

Definitely my favorite part of the song, too. Was also my favorite part of the live show in 06'


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: MR. GNR on November 17, 2008, 01:09:28 PM
Sorry this is kinda off topic but I really want to listen to ''Better'' but i have a mac and dont have the plug in to play it??? Anybody know what to do???


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: KIKO2K6 on November 17, 2008, 01:12:10 PM
I will not heard the finish Better trough some shit  quality radio stream with the album out 5 days from now.
Better is kickass, single material nice move.




To the Better leak. :D


This is so 2006.... :hihi:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: GNRfan2008 on November 17, 2008, 01:13:31 PM
they hit a home run with this song.   Can't stop listening to this, its like the first time all over again.

As great as Axl's vocals are on the whole album, I think his vocals on "Better" are probably the best. In fact, this song has some of the best vocals he's EVER recorded. Just my 2 cents.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr on November 17, 2008, 01:13:53 PM
OMFG so amazing!!!

That slide by Ron  ;D



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: demanding_GNR_rock on November 17, 2008, 01:14:51 PM
Thanks GNFNR and Jimmy -  Zane Lowe Show it will be for me tonight :peace:

I remember he played the first single on the day it came out, he thought it was good but not great, he also said he had heard some leaked material last year that he liked better.

I wonder what he will make of this tonight.

Zane, as well as all the other DJs on Radio 1 love very new release by any band(apart form GNR). Will be worth listening too though just to hear the brown nosing.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: D on November 17, 2008, 01:15:36 PM
"Better" is far from my favorite song BUT, I do think it was the perfect choice for a single. It has a lot of radio friendly poppy elements that will reel in the old school guns fan and capture new fans also.



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: GNRfan2008 on November 17, 2008, 01:17:06 PM
Sorry this is kinda off topic but I really want to listen to ''Better'' but i have a mac and dont have the plug in to play it??? Anybody know what to do???

You need to download Flip4Mac, which is a free plugin. It allows you to play Windows Media streams in your Safari browser.

http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv_download.htm


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: MR. GNR on November 17, 2008, 01:21:30 PM
Sorry this is kinda off topic but I really want to listen to ''Better'' but i have a mac and dont have the plug in to play it??? Anybody know what to do???

You need to download Flip4Mac, which is a free plugin. It allows you to play Windows Media streams in your Safari browser.

http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv_download.htm

Sorry this is kinda off topic but I really want to listen to ''Better'' but i have a mac and dont have the plug in to play it??? Anybody know what to do???

You need to download Flip4Mac, which is a free plugin. It allows you to play Windows Media streams in your Safari browser.

http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv_download.htm


ya i have downloaded that but still when i try to play better it directs me to the microsoft download page???


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: randy marsh on November 17, 2008, 01:23:32 PM
the final album version sounds pretty god damn good  :drool: great choice for the second single imo ..but still i'm somehow annoyed by the part when the song gets angrier. i'd just love to hear a little bit more extreme drumming on that part  :-* anyway this got me even more excited about the fact that chinese democracy is out in less then a week!  :peace:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: axl2 on November 17, 2008, 01:23:44 PM

Sorry I meant to quote the post right above mine about Universal having 2 videos but waiting for the ok from Axl.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: GNRfan2008 on November 17, 2008, 01:24:08 PM


ya i have downloaded that but still when i try to play better it directs me to the microsoft download page???

That is strange. It should work for you. Are you using the Safari browser? I've had problems with it in Firefox but it works with Safari on my Macbook.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: demanding_GNR_rock on November 17, 2008, 01:30:16 PM
Dont bite my head of but after repeated listens i dont think this is a good choice for the next single, I know this is better than most of the crap on radio today but lets face it this is not radio friendly (definitive in the uk ). People will like the music its awesome but as ive found with CD people wont like the vocals, in the chorus in better especially. Dont bash me i like it but i can't see this as a radio friendly choice.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: axl2 on November 17, 2008, 01:33:09 PM
People have liked the chorus fine in CD. Better is the most radio friendly, catchy song on this album IMO.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: demanding_GNR_rock on November 17, 2008, 01:36:24 PM
I apologize i meant the chorus in Better.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: GNRfan2008 on November 17, 2008, 01:37:56 PM
Dont bite my head of but after repeated listens i dont think this is a good choice for the next single, I know this is better than most of the crap on radio today but lets face it this is not radio friendly (definitive in the uk ). People will like the music its awesome but as ive found with CD people wont like the vocals, in the chorus in better especially. Dont bash me i like it but i can't see this as a radio friendly choice.

What? Axl's vocals on this song are classic GN'R. Even all the old GN'R fans who talk shit about the new band will admit that his vocals on this song are amazing and the track is very catchy.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Olorin on November 17, 2008, 01:45:36 PM
Dont bite my head of but after repeated listens i dont think this is a good choice for the next single, I know this is better than most of the crap on radio today but lets face it this is not radio friendly (definitive in the uk ). People will like the music its awesome but as ive found with CD people wont like the vocals, in the chorus in better especially. Dont bash me i like it but i can't see this as a radio friendly choice.

Axl sounds more like Axl of yore on this song than any other new one, his vocals are not just vintage and distinctive but they are also clearly superb!!



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: D on November 17, 2008, 01:50:40 PM
I havent got to hear this really loud, but what are u guys talkin about with the Slides from Ron? Which part?


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: demanding_GNR_rock on November 17, 2008, 01:52:48 PM
Dont bite my head of but after repeated listens i dont think this is a good choice for the next single, I know this is better than most of the crap on radio today but lets face it this is not radio friendly (definitive in the uk ). People will like the music its awesome but as ive found with CD people wont like the vocals, in the chorus in better especially. Dont bash me i like it but i can't see this as a radio friendly choice.

What? Axl's vocals on this song are classic GN'R. Even all the old GN'R fans who talk shit about the new band will admit that his vocals on this song are amazing and the track is very catchy.

They are catchy and GNR fans will appreciate this but from the general sort of public and potential new fans this is the feedback i keep hearing and believe me i ask everyone i meet about it, im the hyped about CD. Lets not forget this is as much about getting a new generation of GNR fans as well as pleasing old ones.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: CheapJon on November 17, 2008, 01:53:45 PM
I havent got to hear this really loud, but what are u guys talkin about with the Slides from Ron? Which part?

3.16-3.19 if my memory serves correct that is what i guess they are talking about, he have added other parts too in rythm :)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: lennonisgod on November 17, 2008, 01:56:53 PM
Perfect choice for the next single... Definitely a BETTER song than CD... in my humble opinion.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: MR. GNR on November 17, 2008, 01:59:07 PM


ya i have downloaded that but still when i try to play better it directs me to the microsoft download page???

That is strange. It should work for you. Are you using the Safari browser? I've had problems with it in Firefox but it works with Safari on my Macbook.

ok now the media player is coming up but nothing else doing. it wont play when i press play in the media player and ya i am using safari


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: jazjme on November 17, 2008, 02:07:27 PM
playing again now, krock!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Buddha_Master on November 17, 2008, 02:15:04 PM
Sorry this is kinda off topic but I really want to listen to ''Better'' but i have a mac and dont have the plug in to play it??? Anybody know what to do???

I have a Mac too, and it works, just be patient because it takes some time before starting.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: its_so_easy on November 17, 2008, 02:18:45 PM
uk fans, better is coming on very soon on radio 1 zane low show!!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: give_it_a_rest on November 17, 2008, 02:22:30 PM
Sorry this has probably been posted here before but you can listen to the song forever and an a day here:

http://www.q1043.com/cc-common/mediaplayer/player.html?redir=yes&mps=gunsnroses.php&mid=http://a23.v18227d.c18227.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/23/18227/v0001/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/auth_!/markets/newyork-ny/WAXQ_GunsNRoses-Better.wma?CCOMRRMID&CPROG=RICHMEDIA&MARKET=NEWYORK-NY&NG_FORMAT=classicrock&NG_ID=waxq104fm&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&OWNER=&SERVER_NAME=www.q1043.com&SITE_ID=1674&STATION_ID=WAXQ-FM&TRACK=



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: MR. GNR on November 17, 2008, 02:37:50 PM
Sorry this is kinda off topic but I really want to listen to ''Better'' but i have a mac and dont have the plug in to play it??? Anybody know what to do???

I have a Mac too, and it works, just be patient because it takes some time before starting.

been like an hour. when i press play ''-2048'' shows up directly to the right of the play button???



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: gnrjanus on November 17, 2008, 02:44:48 PM
after all I'm dissapointed.

Chinese democracy no video
Shackler, No video
ITW No video
Better. still no video

what is that for promotion?
In holland there is nothing a bit on CHinese democracy not even about the Fame(Music shop)
I hope they are getting some big promotion after the release cause they've could have added a lot of people to their fanbase by putting out video's and what so ever.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: CheapJon on November 17, 2008, 02:47:15 PM
after all I'm dissapointed.

Chinese democracy no video
Shackler, No video
ITW No video
Better. still no video

this was so funny i didn't read the rest of your post :hihi:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: $$$$ on November 17, 2008, 02:52:34 PM
after all I'm dissapointed.

Chinese democracy no video
Shackler, No video
ITW No video
Better. still no video

this was so funny i didn't read the rest of your post :hihi:

4 official songs and your disappointed? wow


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: gnrjanus on November 17, 2008, 02:58:23 PM
2 of them are officiel to be sure though
CD and Better.
rest is in a game or 10 sec on a movie credit.

yes I'm glad about that.

but there is non bit of Promo in holland.. at least nothing big or somehting bigger then small.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: BatVin on November 17, 2008, 02:58:52 PM
Better is great song. But both, Chinese Democracy and Better has actually nothing like catchy chorus :( I hope for something like This I Love like next single...for spread chinese democracy also on no-rock radios.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: DemocracyRose on November 17, 2008, 02:59:09 PM
Im not dissapointed. For christ sake its out on saturday. Its surreal!!! :love:

But i was hoping for a little more. For examble, a new video would be nice. :)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: give_it_a_rest on November 17, 2008, 03:00:09 PM
after all I'm dissapointed.

Chinese democracy no video
Shackler, No video
ITW No video
Better. still no video

what is that for promotion?
In holland there is nothing a bit on CHinese democracy not even about the Fame(Music shop)
I hope they are getting some big promotion after the release cause they've could have added a lot of people to their fanbase by putting out video's and what so ever.

Hey man I'm also from holland, and actually the album is promoted over here, on radio 3 there are commercials like: "CD out november 21st". You know also that we are very relaxed over here and the best is yet to come. The radio stations don't like CD but I'm sure they will play better all the time and then it's going to be big over here always the same shit!! I've never hear Kings of leon here on the radio, but now I hear it 10 times a day, GN'R will get the credits they deserve but not with the CD song.





Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: CheapJon on November 17, 2008, 03:01:16 PM
a dude on gnrsweden have heard/seen a commercial for it on swedish tv about 40 minutes ago  ;D

i'll watch tv6 all night now :hihi:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Baby Chaos on November 17, 2008, 03:07:07 PM
Zane Lowe is gonna play two new tracks from CD exclusively on Radio 1 in the UK in the next two hours  :beer:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Soori on November 17, 2008, 03:10:58 PM
Zane lowe is gona play it in 2 mins time.......


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Giant_Robot on November 17, 2008, 03:12:48 PM
Guns N' Roses is been talked about on radio one now !

Shackler's Revenge is getting played !


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Soori on November 17, 2008, 03:13:35 PM
they playing shacklers revenge???? lol


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Soori on November 17, 2008, 03:14:28 PM
SHACKLERS REVENGE SOUNDS AWESOME ON RADIO 1 : ok: :peace: ;D


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: D on November 17, 2008, 03:15:50 PM
I think Axl listens to the fans big time.

The one thing I hated about Better was that part that sounded like a robot jacking off.

That has been replaced with the kick ass Spine breaking Slide thing..................


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Soori on November 17, 2008, 03:17:21 PM
it sounded insaneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! :beer:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: TomFriend on November 17, 2008, 03:23:28 PM
I think Axl listens to the fans big time.

The one thing I hated about Better was that part that sounded like a robot jacking off.


 :rofl: If only the reviews we've had so far were so vividly descriptive.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: SlashRock on November 17, 2008, 03:24:21 PM
A second single released already?! The album isn't even out yet! Strange decision, but hell I'm not complaining!  :smoking:

'Better' sounded immense.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Rockin' Rose on November 17, 2008, 03:43:54 PM
Pretty good, like that small guitar solo by Ron starting at 1:48. Also Frank's drumming is pretty intense

Though on the demo after 3:24 I like Bucket's "robotic" guitar playing more.

A second single released already?! The album isn't even out yet! Strange decision, but hell I'm not complaining!  :smoking:

'Better' sounded immense.

In this situation it's not so strange, they have to bring GN'R back to the spotlight, and the way they are doing it is great, both Chinese and Better are great up-beat rock songs but still completely different from each other, Shackler in Rock Band 2 and If The World in Body of Lies, plus those widgets, gotta love 'em, they really are getting in touch with all possible groups.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: D on November 17, 2008, 03:44:21 PM
I wonder if the single will be on Itunes or if they will just wait till the album release?


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: lennonisgod on November 17, 2008, 03:45:40 PM
Better is great song. But both, Chinese Democracy and Better has actually nothing like catchy chorus :( I hope for something like This I Love like next single...for spread chinese democracy also on no-rock radios.

We haven't even heard This I Love yet... it may not have a "catchy chorus" as you say, either.

A second single released already?! The album isn't even out yet! Strange decision, but hell I'm not complaining!  :smoking:

'Better' sounded immense.

Plenty of albums are released with two singles out already... it's a damn good fucking plan if you ask me.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Olorin on November 17, 2008, 03:49:19 PM
Was anybody still listening to Zane Lowe? Did I hear an Axl Rose mention in one of the songs he played afterwards?

Its all blending into one awful song after another, I bet Shacklers gets ripped while they praise the utter plop thats been played alongside it.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Baby Chaos on November 17, 2008, 03:50:03 PM

The one thing I hated about Better was that part that sounded like a robot jacking off.


Heh  ;D


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Soori on November 17, 2008, 03:53:34 PM
they are playing better right now on zane lowes radio 1 show....shacklers revenge got good reviews..... :beer: : ok: :peace: ;D


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: MrMojoRa on November 17, 2008, 03:54:52 PM


Though on the demo after 3:24 I like Bucket's "robotic" guitar playing more.


I thought it was still there just dialed down a bit.  I thought I heard it underneath the slide guitar.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Soori on November 17, 2008, 03:59:16 PM
zane lowe said....he had loads of positive texts..about shacklers revenge and BETTER....ppl are welcoming guns n roses back....he also said the album is coming out this monday (UK)..and the killers album is also coming out...so there will be a battle in the charts...


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Olorin on November 17, 2008, 04:00:41 PM
OH YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH  :yes:

Better cranked up to eleven on a bigass stereo is tha shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!!!

Radio 1 listeners loved Shacklers, Better must have blown them away cause it sounded mindblowing!

Zane Lowe gave both songs a big fat thumbs up  : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: duga on November 17, 2008, 04:02:06 PM
a dude on gnrsweden have heard/seen a commercial for it on swedish tv about 40 minutes ago  ;D

i'll watch tv6 all night now :hihi:

Yeah, I've seen it! Right in the middle of The Simpsons  :beer:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: GNR4L on November 17, 2008, 04:02:45 PM


Though on the demo after 3:24 I like Bucket's "robotic" guitar playing more.


I thought it was still there just dialed down a bit.  I thought I heard it underneath the slide guitar.

your right it is. I think its pitman's effects though not Bucket's playing.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: D on November 17, 2008, 04:04:58 PM
Wait a minute, they played a studio Shackler's?????


U can still hear the part I was referring to, but its mixed well with the slide which is good.

I love the song though. I think it should truly cross over nicely.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: destroier on November 17, 2008, 04:05:24 PM
I think Axl listens to the fans big time.

The one thing I hated about Better was that part that sounded like a robot jacking off.

That has been replaced with the kick ass Spine breaking Slide thing..................
I usually don't like Bucket's style, but I like the masturbating robot.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: D on November 17, 2008, 04:05:32 PM
http://www.20min.ch/tools/suchen/story/31498464


Here is a much better quality stream of Better.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: dont_damn_me on November 17, 2008, 04:13:31 PM
Right on, thanks that is BETTER.  :smoking:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: uzisuicide2002 on November 17, 2008, 04:15:36 PM
looks like a clip of the video is on the widgets


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: A Private Eye on November 17, 2008, 04:17:24 PM
Wait a minute, they played a studio Shackler's?????


Yes, then played Better about 40 minutes later. Both apparently went over very well  : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Rockin' Rose on November 17, 2008, 04:19:16 PM


Though on the demo after 3:24 I like Bucket's "robotic" guitar playing more.


I thought it was still there just dialed down a bit.  I thought I heard it underneath the slide guitar.

Your right it's still there but it's really low in the mix, but for me that part sounds better in the demo, I don't know the right word for it but there's like "call and answer" with Bucket's guitar and the rhythm guitar.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: 14years on November 17, 2008, 04:20:21 PM
hearing Shackler's Revenge on Radio 1 tonight on a DAB radio was IMMENSE! I'd heard it before on Youtube waiting patiently for Rock Band 2 in the UK, but OMG!!

Chinese Democracy and Rock Band 2 out in a matter of couple of days - What an amazing couple of days it's going to be  :beer:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: lennonisgod on November 17, 2008, 04:25:33 PM
Better was just added to GnR's myspace page... only a 1:30 clip of it though.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Bandita on November 17, 2008, 04:26:33 PM
Still at work and haven't heard the new version yet but they removed the synth?  Or most of it?  That's awesome, I didn't care for it at all!  


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: JuicySwoos on November 17, 2008, 04:28:35 PM
Still at work and haven't heard the new version yet but they removed the synth?  Or most of it?  That's awesome, I didn't care for it at all!  


It is just lower in the mix


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: GeraldFord on November 17, 2008, 04:29:12 PM
Sounds great. Good choice.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on November 17, 2008, 04:33:00 PM
Fuck YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     :beer:  :beer:  :beer:  :beer:  :beer:  :beer:

beautiful!  :drool:



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: uzisuicide2002 on November 17, 2008, 04:43:01 PM
its up on there myspace now.  : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: younggunner on November 17, 2008, 04:43:30 PM
I take it back....the slide part is great. you fully appreciate it when your in your car and its blasting....krock is the best

theyll be playing it at 5 for any1 interested


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 17, 2008, 04:44:44 PM
From Rolling Stone...

It?s T-minus six days until Guns N? Roses? Chinese Democracy hits Best Buy shelves, and the next taste is live online. ?Better? is the second official single from the long-awaited album, and like it?s predecessor ?Chinese Democracy? it has been floating around in unfinished versions for years. Also like the first single, ?Better? feels like classic Guns N? Roses ? Rose?s growling croon in the verses could have floated out of the Use Your Illusion sessions.

 8)



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: gilee7 on November 17, 2008, 04:46:25 PM
Thanks for posting that link, D. The stream that was posted earlier today was horrible quality. Every 10 seconds it would pause and buffer, plus you had to deal with the female robot voice interrupting the song at random times.

I still can't wait to hear it on the radio where I can blast it on my stereo system.

I've never been a big fan of the middle section of the song. I don't mean the angry screaming, but the actual music itself. The brief solo in the middle doesn't do much for me, although I love the solo near the end of the song.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: shadyklyde on November 17, 2008, 04:49:40 PM
loving the new mix. sounds real nice


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Olorin on November 17, 2008, 04:51:24 PM
You can hear the UK premier of Shacklers and Better earlier tonight here again  : ok:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00fhmcz/Zane_Lowe_17112008/


1hr 11 mins you can hear Shacklers and then 1hr 50mins you can hear Better.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: MR. GNR on November 17, 2008, 04:52:25 PM
http://www.20min.ch/tools/suchen/story/31498464


Here is a much better quality stream of Better.

thanks man that sounds amazing!
does anybody else notice how good the drums sound. compared to what we have previously heard like? the sneer is a lot more prominent aswell as the crash! sounds brilliant!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Jimmy? on November 17, 2008, 04:52:44 PM
You can hear the UK premier of Shacklers and Better earlier tonight here again  : ok:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00fhmcz/Zane_Lowe_17112008/


1hr 11 mins you can hear Shacklers and then 1hr 50mins you can hear Better.

Was just gonna post this!!! You beat me to it! Listening now......


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: younggunner on November 17, 2008, 04:52:54 PM
thanks

krockradio.com (http://krockradio.com) at 5pm for Better..8 min

i told them to dedicate it to all my gnr friends around the world...so hopefully he gets it in


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Zartan on November 17, 2008, 04:54:25 PM
better is on gunsnroses.com now....


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: randy marsh on November 17, 2008, 04:55:31 PM
http://www.gunsnroses.com it's up there too now

oops ^^


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Spirit on November 17, 2008, 04:56:22 PM
http://www.gunsnroses.com it's up there too now

But, does it play for you guys?


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Zartan on November 17, 2008, 04:57:02 PM
no..it won't play for me....


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Olorin on November 17, 2008, 04:58:22 PM
Press play dummys  ;D


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Spirit on November 17, 2008, 04:59:17 PM
Press play dummys  ;D

Doesn't work for me..


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Chuzeville on November 17, 2008, 04:59:32 PM
Even so.  :drool:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: randy marsh on November 17, 2008, 04:59:40 PM
Press play dummys  ;D

it didnt start to play even if you pressed it a minute ago, now it's working  : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Zartan on November 17, 2008, 04:59:58 PM
ahhhh....yes, that works ::)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Spirit on November 17, 2008, 05:04:05 PM
http://www.interscope.com/artist/news/default.aspx?nid=17333&aid=149 (http://www.interscope.com/artist/news/default.aspx?nid=17333&aid=149)

They only host a 30 sec clip for now. I guess this is the press-release, sorta.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Nytunz on November 17, 2008, 05:04:39 PM
Works fine here!

Really cool song! I love it!  : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Spirit on November 17, 2008, 05:07:01 PM
Works for me too now  :beer:

Great to hear it with a higher bitrate.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: KIKO2K6 on November 17, 2008, 05:14:43 PM
Wait to the shit hit the masses...this tune is rad...gotta love bumble aeroplane sound .

 


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: D on November 17, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
I have a pretty decent computer speaker set up, but I can't wait to put the CD in my surround sound system at home and hear it properly.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: overmatik on November 17, 2008, 05:23:12 PM
The song is great as always. Bumble's work really shines on it. That was a good example of improvement over the leaks, the song has just enough of eletronics.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Bandita on November 17, 2008, 05:35:26 PM
Ran out of work at 4:57 since I knew they would play it on KRock again.

Wow, just wow.  It sounds soooooooooo much better now!  Whatever is going on there with the guitars towards the end is seriously kick ass. ;D


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: King Axl on November 17, 2008, 05:44:18 PM
To me, it doesn't sound a heck of a lot different than the prior incarnations; the only new part I caught was that WICKED riff about three minutes in. I work in a warehouse, so there's always lots of background noise. I look forward to hearing it at the Boston listening party, and of course, on Sunday on my CD player.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Bandita on November 17, 2008, 05:46:49 PM
To me, it doesn't sound a heck of a lot different than the prior incarnations; the only new part I caught was that WICKED riff about three minutes in. I work in a warehouse, so there's always lots of background noise. I look forward to hearing it at the Boston listening party, and of course, on Sunday on my CD player.

Yea I wasn't expecting that riff and almost went off the road on a VERY busy highway!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: brad1217 on November 17, 2008, 05:55:16 PM
To me, it doesn't sound a heck of a lot different than the prior incarnations; the only new part I caught was that WICKED riff about three minutes in. I work in a warehouse, so there's always lots of background noise. I look forward to hearing it at the Boston listening party, and of course, on Sunday on my CD player.

Yea I wasn't expecting that riff and almost went off the road on a VERY busy highway!

In case you guys missed it the drums are slightly different as well.  :peace:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: D on November 17, 2008, 05:58:19 PM
That riff at 3 minutes is the same that was played live right?


Too be a little picky.... I do like the Bucket version right before the awesome Robin Solo. Seems Bucket's was a little more aggressive and in your face with the robot type riff during the chorus before the Robin solo.




Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: benfolds4980 on November 17, 2008, 05:59:17 PM
Amazing.  Admittedly i downloaded the 9 leaks a while back, and had heard the song live, etc etc, and i was impressed back then.  But this version sounds even better than what i heard 6 months ago.  Well done.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Six Strings on November 17, 2008, 06:04:48 PM
The version is improved and it is easy to be felt. My opinion, of course. The drums are different, there is more power if you know what I mean, it is truely a very good song. Can't wait for the album!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on November 17, 2008, 06:22:34 PM
Can't...stop...listening... :drool: This song f'n rocks.  I hope the rest of the album sucks, so I don't have to end up spending 2-3 days on lockdown listening to it over, and over...  :hihi:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: D on November 17, 2008, 06:24:49 PM
Ill confess also but CD and Better have me greatly optimistic, cause these finished versions are way better even than the leaks.

I had wore "Better" out, but now, I am back listening non-stop!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Drew on November 17, 2008, 06:31:51 PM
Just finished listening to the song. Sounds great!

Keep'em coming Axl!  : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: mrlee on November 17, 2008, 06:55:51 PM
That songs ok.

I think its quite a poppy song compared to CD.

Some good riffs in it.

and i LOVE the Sweep picking part later in the song!!!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: tim_m on November 17, 2008, 06:56:10 PM
It seems to no longer be the full song on gnr's website. Its just a clip like everywhere else. Even on the interscope site where they say the full version is there it isn't.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: AxlsMainMan on November 17, 2008, 07:01:17 PM
Guess they like teasing us :hihi:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: faldor on November 17, 2008, 07:03:38 PM
Ill confess also but CD and Better have me greatly optimistic, cause these finished versions are way better even than the leaks.

I had wore "Better" out, but now, I am back listening non-stop!
I agree D.  Even though I am quite familiar with the song in various forms, this version sounds awesome.  The song is basically the same, but there's enough changes that make you take notice.  Did I say how awesome it was to have 2 new GNR songs at our disposal?  And just think, in less than a week we'll have 12 more.

Everybody enjoy their last Monday in this pre-Chinese Democracy era.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: reed2009 on November 17, 2008, 07:09:28 PM
so crisp!!! sounds amazing heart was pounding when i heard it on krock today!!!! this is the best time for us guys!!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: its_so_easy on November 17, 2008, 07:11:46 PM
apparently 'better' is on http://web.gunsnroses.com/splash.jsp, but im not hearing anything, how about anyone else???


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Annie on November 17, 2008, 07:13:00 PM
I think I spent an hour today listening to that song over and over! I LOVE BETTER!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: AxlsMainMan on November 17, 2008, 07:13:46 PM
apparently 'better' is on http://web.gunsnroses.com/splash.jsp, but im not hearing anything, how about anyone else???

It appears to be gone.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: draguns on November 17, 2008, 07:14:06 PM
I really  liked the riff that replaced the robotic sound during 3.00. I  liked the robotic sound but this sounds "Better"! Pun intended.:)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Insider on November 17, 2008, 07:20:25 PM
any info about a cideo clip??


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: slash1213 on November 17, 2008, 07:24:16 PM
FREAKING AWESOMEEE


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: efish on November 17, 2008, 07:28:49 PM
Taken off GNR.com  :'(

Maybe to make room for a streaming music video? One can dream.  ;D


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: its_so_easy on November 17, 2008, 07:31:37 PM
ITS BACK UP!!!!! awesome :)

http://web.gunsnroses.com/splash.jsp

not all of the song though... :(


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: The Catcher on November 17, 2008, 07:33:37 PM
This is one of the best Guns N' Roses songs ever. Period. I'm in heaven right now, struggling to keep my emotions under control after all these years :beer: 8)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 17, 2008, 07:38:43 PM
Guns N' Roses' new single Better premieres

There's still six days to go till Gun N' Roses' Chinese Democracy finally hits the shelves, and already we have a second single called Better.

Is Better 'better' than Chinese Democracy, the title track, which was released less than a month ago? Click on this link and judge for yourself.

Early fan reaction is mostly positive. Of the 91 reviews posted on Best Buy's website (most, if not all, based on album leaks and demo-sharing), eight mentioned Better as a particular favorite.

The fans sound off

JayceAce23 from Appleton, Wisconsin, writes: "A spinning, writhing mash up of mid tempo good ness into a metal breakdown that you're sure to remember...this is an amazing groove...original and intense in it's scope but close enough to vintage Guns that old school fans will dig it...amazing guitar work!

NugsNDoses from The Sleepy West of the Woddy East, says: "Better is the last 18 years of hard rock crammed into 1 song. Genius. One of the best tracks in this collection."

MusicRadar will be bringing you more stories and Guns N' Roses exclusives during the week.

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/guns-n-roses-new-single-better-premieres-183177



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: bazgnr on November 17, 2008, 07:44:38 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/11/17/a-look-back-at-1991-as-new-guns-n-roses-single-better-premieres/

This article also says "Plus: reactions from Izzy Stradlin and Steven Adler" under the link, but I don't see anything from either of them in the actual article.  Am I missing something?


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 17, 2008, 07:48:12 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/11/17/a-look-back-at-1991-as-new-guns-n-roses-single-better-premieres/

This article also says "Plus, reactions from Izzy Stradlin and Steven Adler" under the link, but I don't see anything from either of them in the actual article.  Am I missing something?

No.  Both "reactions" they mention are posted in the ex-gunners section already.



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: lennonisgod on November 17, 2008, 08:07:50 PM
Fucking love this song... AMAZING. To me, this is as good as rock n' roll gets... PERIOD.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: its_so_easy on November 17, 2008, 08:08:28 PM
Listen to the whole song here!

http://www.interscope.com/artist/player/audio.aspx?mid=3253&aid=149

sweet 8)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on November 17, 2008, 08:10:50 PM
Why does nothing play on www.gunsnroses.com anymore? was Better on the site at all?


 :peace:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on November 17, 2008, 08:11:04 PM
so i call my radio station Z92 right, and i'm like hey i hear G'n'R have a new single out there can i hear it and hes like yeah sure thing. That was at about 3:45 pm and then i just happened to be near a radio about 15 minutes ago and he played Chinese Democracy >:(

o-well, guess they dind't get the memo :-\.......


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: w.axl.rose on November 17, 2008, 08:13:32 PM
Why does nothing play on www.gunsnroses.com anymore? was Better on the site at all?


 :peace:

its on the site..

(http://uploads.screenshot-program.com/upl3110971919.jpg)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on November 17, 2008, 08:16:50 PM
When I open the page it still has the music player but it just says Listen at www.gunsnroses.com


 :peace:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: w.axl.rose on November 17, 2008, 08:20:12 PM
that's weird. well the song is only a clip, so your better off listening to the song from one of the radio stations that has it available for streaming.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on November 17, 2008, 08:22:44 PM
It plays on the widget on my desktop so it Don't really matter, guess I'll find out for myself.  :hihi:


 :peace:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: gcluskey on November 17, 2008, 08:41:40 PM
It sounds great!! Much improved sound now from the demo


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Eazy E on November 17, 2008, 08:43:26 PM
Any idea why the official website changed from the full song to just a clip?


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: tim_m on November 17, 2008, 08:44:43 PM
No idea but the full version is at interscope.com


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Zartan on November 17, 2008, 08:55:14 PM
When I open the page it still has the music player but it just says Listen at www.gunsnroses.com


 :peace:

me too.  it was working at 5pm ET.  now it is not.  i get the same message....hmmmm....


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: CaughtMeInaComa on November 17, 2008, 08:56:50 PM
This is the best song from New GN'R EVER! 'Bout time we hear some kick ass rock n' roll. I have loved this song since the first leak.

Amazing!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: D on November 17, 2008, 08:58:58 PM
I didn't notice on the lower quality streams I was hearing, but I love what they've done with the intro adding the little scratchy guitar parts over the intro.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: younggunner on November 17, 2008, 09:13:03 PM
i picked that up too d....i dig it


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 17, 2008, 09:18:08 PM
Listen to the whole song here!

http://www.interscope.com/artist/player/audio.aspx?mid=3253&aid=149

sweet 8)

Thanks!  That radio stream didn't work for me and what I ended up with wasn't very good.

The song sounds great.  :smoking:



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: prairie on November 17, 2008, 09:33:23 PM
I love the little changes in this song, it's gonna be such a big hit.

prairieboy,


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Jim Bob on November 17, 2008, 09:36:46 PM
leaving work today, I get in my car.

As soon as I turn my car on, Better is blaring through my car speakers  :smoking:   Xtreme Radio 107.5 (las vegas) is already playing the song and it sounded fucking amazing.


Title: Re: new single monday??
Post by: Lord Kayoss on November 17, 2008, 11:01:30 PM
Indeed.  And it's about damn time, too.   "Better" is surely the song from CD that will turn more people on to the album, and GN'R in general, than any other.  Here's hoping...

Yep.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: leatherebel on November 17, 2008, 11:11:15 PM
This is the best song from New GN'R EVER! 'Bout time we hear some kick ass rock n' roll. I have loved this song since the first leak.

Amazing!

There are at least like 5 ballads or inbetweens on the album that blow that song away in every direction. But yeah, as far as rockers or so go, this one is probably the strongest.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: LittleFly on November 17, 2008, 11:30:02 PM
Oh dear lord, I just listened again.  This time at home with my headphones and a better stream.

My neck hurts and I've rediscovered my penchant for mad air-guitar strumming.  :love:



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Eazy E on November 18, 2008, 12:11:13 AM
I just did a quick browse through the "Recently Played' list on 97.7 Htz FM in Toronto (www.htzfm.com) and it looks like they did a back-to-back of GN'R around 9:30, Better & Chinese Democracy!   They also played Better earlier in the day around 1 and Chinese Democracy around 3.... awesome to see so much GN'R being played on the radio!

As for the Edge... it seems they played Chinese Democracy 4 times today (and WTTJ once), but no sign of Better.  Still cool considering they are an alt-rock station only playing GN'R because people voted for it!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Mama Kin on November 18, 2008, 02:59:57 AM
Kind of disappointed I never heard the radio play this tonight, however just listened to the stream and it's pretty kick-ass.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: gunns1 on November 18, 2008, 05:49:26 AM
its a shame its getting no radio play in australia...


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: St_Jimmyuk on November 18, 2008, 05:51:39 AM
or uk

but at least its on gnr.com now


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: SlashRock on November 18, 2008, 06:00:20 AM
or uk

but at least its on gnr.com now

It was on Radio 1 last night.  ;)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: minto on November 18, 2008, 06:20:14 AM
Yeah Radio 1 listeners and Zane Lowe seemed to like it - They also played Shacklers Revenge on R1 last night


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: gunns1 on November 18, 2008, 06:32:37 AM
havent heard chinese  in weeks in australian radio

and havent heard better at all (except for the net of course)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Silverchair on November 18, 2008, 08:09:21 AM
Oh dear lord, I just listened again.  This time at home with my headphones and a better stream.

My neck hurts and I've rediscovered my penchant for mad air-guitar strumming.  :love:



 we all air-guitar in private. in the john, in the car, at breakfast and at the mall in fitting rooms. we buy guitar hero!!!  :rofl:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: XxWickeds10xX on November 18, 2008, 08:23:55 AM
I havent heard it on the radio yet, but Im excited. "Better"  has been my favorite song from the new GnR since I heard a few years back. It was my ringtone for a long time, people would always ask me who it was. I cant wait for those people to hear the song in full!
Only thing I can say is that the "sound effects" during the breakdown and solo is a bit much, I can do without that, but the song still rocks!


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Nytunz on November 18, 2008, 08:26:37 AM
They played Better on Norwegian radio today, also chinese democracy and Knocking on heavens..


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: pilferk on November 18, 2008, 08:28:55 AM
I heard it on the way to the listening party last night....sounded GREAT.

Then heard it AT the listening party...and I gotta say:  Radio doesn't do it justice.  It sounded even better.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: jaknudsen on November 18, 2008, 08:49:56 AM
They played Better on Norwegian radio today, also chinese democracy and Knocking on heavens..

Missed it! What did they say about it?


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Nytunz on November 18, 2008, 11:47:36 AM
They played Better on Norwegian radio today, also chinese democracy and Knocking on heavens..

Missed it! What did they say about it?

Well, only that it was the new GnR singel i think.. later today the same channel played Chinese Democracy, and then Knocking on h. d.

Cool ! they get alot of attention.. And tune in "Pyro" at 20:00 They will play Better today


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Moonlight J on November 18, 2008, 01:31:13 PM
Man, I've been sick as a dick in a chicken (sorry Bucket) for the last 4 days, but I'll tell you what: Listening to the single with headphones on via the label's site was a beakon of good vibrations burning through my shroud of sickness. More than pleased to be viewing the leaks through the rearview. Thanks, Dr. Rose! "Better" works for me. :yes:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: marknroses on November 18, 2008, 04:27:53 PM
Better does it more for me live than on the record.
Something about Axl jumping up and down on stage during the chorus that is more exciting to see than anything in listening alone.

MNW


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Nytunz on November 18, 2008, 04:49:49 PM
Better does it more for me live than on the record.
Something about Axl jumping up and down on stage during the chorus that is more exciting to see than anything in listening alone.

MNW

Thant why nothing is better then live music.. when live shows are as good as GnR`s  : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: gilee7 on November 18, 2008, 08:05:28 PM
I just heard "Better" played on my local rock station for the first time. They put it up head-to-head in the evening cage match against some song by Theory of a Deadman (I think it was called "I Hate My Life" or some emo shit like that). The Theory of a Deadman song sucked ass, I thought. It sounded boring and generic, and a song that would usually make me switch to a different station had I not known "Better" was coming on afterwards.

But get this shit . . . the Theory of a Deadman song won by 78% of the vote!!! 78%!!!!!!!!!!!!! That pisses me off to no end. And back when the station debuted "Chinese Democracy," it lost head-to-head to that fucking Staind song, which also sucks huge amounts of ass.

Apparently the general public has zero taste in music. It disgusts me.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: faldor on November 18, 2008, 08:21:39 PM
I just heard "Better" played on my local rock station for the first time. They put it up head-to-head in the evening catch match against some song by Theory of a Deadman (I think it was called "I Hate My Life" or some emo shit like that). The Theory of a Deadman song sucked ass, I thought. It sounded boring and generic, and a song that would usually make me switch to a different station had I not known "Better" was coming on afterwards.

But get this shit . . . the Theory of a Deadman song won by 78% of the vote!!! 78%!!!!!!!!!!!!! That pisses me off to no end. And back when the station debuted "Chinese Democracy," it lost head-to-head to that fucking Staind song, which also sucks huge amounts of ass.

Apparently the general public has zero taste in music. It disgusts me.
We'll see if Theory of a Deadman is still playing music 20 years from now.  Somehow I doubt it.  Let them have their time in the sun.  It won't last long.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: dont_damn_me on November 18, 2008, 08:28:04 PM
wow....thats more insulting to the listeners of that station more than anything else....just damn sad...i'm shocked listeners could be soo stupid??!! I only say that because those two bands are really...reallly bad!!!....i'm speachless...twighlight zone..... :nervous:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: TomFriend on November 18, 2008, 08:30:32 PM
Chill out - it wondered by GNR if everyone liked it.  :peace:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 18, 2008, 10:40:33 PM
Listen to Guns N? Roses Better

written by So Hood Magazine at November 18, 2008, 8:05 pm

Check out the second single ?Better? off the upcoming highly-anticipated release of Chinese Democracy from Guns N? Roses. There is nothing out right now on the radio, that is touching this song, plain and simple.

http://www.sohood.com/crib/2008/11/18/listen-to-guns-n-roses-better/



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: MR.BROWNSTONE on November 19, 2008, 12:47:47 AM
This was a great pick for a second single. It was nice to hear it on the radio the past to days. I was at the AC/DC show in Philly Mon and heard some talk about it.  : ok:


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: GeorgeSteele on November 19, 2008, 10:11:33 AM

Great song, though I personally prefer Chinese Democracy and would have run a little longer with that single, but I know I'm in the minority on that.  As most of you have mentioned, I love the added drums during the chorus; kind of similar to the chorus drums on The One Thing from INXS.





Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: faldor on November 19, 2008, 10:21:30 AM

Great song, though I personally prefer Chinese Democracy and would have run a little longer with that single, but I know I'm in the minority on that.  As most of you have mentioned, I love the added drums during the chorus; kind of similar to the chorus drums on The One Thing from INXS.




CD is still being played on radio as far as I can tell.  I have yet to hear Better on the radio in CT or on Sirius.  I think "Better" was just sent to certain markets/stations to help get buzz going.  I wouldn't consider it a full blown single release though, at least not yet.  Regardless though, stations all across the world are gonna have 14 songs to choose from in a matter of days.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: robd788 on November 19, 2008, 03:46:48 PM
This is whay i fell in love with this band, it sounds amazing



Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: RitzWalker8 on November 19, 2008, 04:47:49 PM
They are playing Better in Boston on WAAF.  My wife says she hears it like 3 times a day while driving.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: prairie on November 19, 2008, 05:39:24 PM
It's still hard to believe we are finally here.  It's gonna be a great weekend  :yes:

prairieboy,


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Eclipsed107 on November 19, 2008, 05:46:50 PM
I just heard "Better" played on my local rock station for the first time. They put it up head-to-head in the evening cage match against some song by Theory of a Deadman (I think it was called "I Hate My Life" or some emo shit like that). The Theory of a Deadman song sucked ass, I thought. It sounded boring and generic, and a song that would usually make me switch to a different station had I not known "Better" was coming on afterwards.

But get this shit . . . the Theory of a Deadman song won by 78% of the vote!!! 78%!!!!!!!!!!!!! That pisses me off to no end. And back when the station debuted "Chinese Democracy," it lost head-to-head to that fucking Staind song, which also sucks huge amounts of ass.

Apparently the general public has zero taste in music. It disgusts me.

I saw Theory of a Deadman as an opening band earlier this year, they were pretty terrible.. but the next day I went to a gas station and met the whole band there, shook their hand, told them I was at the show the night before, and they invited me to a party.  They were pretty cool guys, I didn't go to the party though as we already had plans and didn't really want to bother them.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: audjon on November 20, 2008, 09:02:30 PM
From Billboard.com

'The album's title track debuts this week at No. 34 on the Billboard Hot 100, the band's first appearance on the chart since "Sympathy for the Devil" in 1995.'

I just don't get this Better thing, is it an official single yet? It seems strange to release it now when CD is just hitting the charts, and with the album comming out, it will surely get some extra spins this week. (And where the hell is the CD video?)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: faldor on November 21, 2008, 08:58:14 AM
From Billboard.com

'The album's title track debuts this week at No. 34 on the Billboard Hot 100, the band's first appearance on the chart since "Sympathy for the Devil" in 1995.'

I just don't get this Better thing, is it an official single yet? It seems strange to release it now when CD is just hitting the charts, and with the album comming out, it will surely get some extra spins this week. (And where the hell is the CD video?)

I don't think "Better" is available to purchase as a single yet, though that will change when the whole album becomes available.  It was sent out to radio as an added push this last week leading to a release.  CD is still doing well and still getting plenty of airplay.  Metallica released 4 singles before Death Magnetic came out.  It's not uncommon, and doesn't necessarily detract from previous singles.  Both songs can still do well.  It's possible they could start to roll out the videos AFTER the album's release, maybe to help drum up more interst once things die down a bit.


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: badobsession81 on November 26, 2008, 07:21:54 PM
I'm confused by the (apparent) new way albums are being promoted - Death Magnetic pretty much only has The Day that never comes played on UK radio (and in the charts) but 4 singles have been mentioned.

Is Better a single? It doesn't seem to be on the radio 1 playlist (ChiDem is still on the b list tho) and is not available separately.
Are there still physical CD single releases here in the uk - couldn't find any when i briefly checked hmv - I know last time i looked they were hidden at the back rather than in a big chart section at the front...

Is Chi Dem the official single still? Was Better just made available as a promo to play as 'an album track'?

Anyway, it'd be great if ppl could shed some light (in particular about the UK)


Title: Re: new single monday?? - Confirmed, "Better" debuts today 11/17
Post by: Chief on November 26, 2008, 09:37:23 PM
How's better doing on the charts?

i really have no idea what's going on!!