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Title: AFD-Edited Version
Post by: BostonGunner on February 22, 2004, 02:53:04 PM
Has anyone heard the edited version of AFD? How do they edit it? Do they bleep the swear words, cut out a few seconds, or what?


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: The New Fiona Apple on February 22, 2004, 03:19:52 PM
Has anyone heard the edited version of AFD? How do they edit it? Do they bleep the swear words, cut out a few seconds, or what?

I believe that in some places near swear words is silience and in some places, whole new words all together.


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: chineseilusions on February 22, 2004, 03:29:23 PM
Yeah I often wondered about this myself I bought my first copy of AFD at wal-mart but it wasn't edited.

I often wonder how did they do the UYI albums in edited form?


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: The New Fiona Apple on February 22, 2004, 03:36:33 PM
Yeah I often wondered about this myself I bought my first copy of AFD at wal-mart but it wasn't edited.

I often wonder how did they do the UYI albums in edited form?

They basically made basically, a best-of that has all the UYI songs that don't have curses and YCBM in edited form.


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: Izzy on February 22, 2004, 03:37:38 PM
Has anyone heard the edited version of AFD? How do they edit it? Do they bleep the swear words, cut out a few seconds, or what?

I believe that in some places near swear words is silience and in some places, whole new words all together.

Wow that edited version seems like a must buy  ::)


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: jellyhead on February 22, 2004, 03:41:01 PM
Yeah I often wondered about this myself I bought my first copy of AFD at wal-mart but it wasn't edited.

I often wonder how did they do the UYI albums in edited form?

They basically made basically, a best-of that has all the UYI songs that don't have curses and YCBM in edited form.

I've never heard of this edited YCBM.  What has been cut out?


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: The New Fiona Apple on February 22, 2004, 03:44:08 PM
Yeah I often wondered about this myself I bought my first copy of AFD at wal-mart but it wasn't edited.

I often wonder how did they do the UYI albums in edited form?

They basically made basically, a best-of that has all the UYI songs that don't have curses and YCBM in edited form.

I've never heard of this edited YCBM.  What has been cut out?

Bitch, I believe


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: jellyhead on February 22, 2004, 04:02:21 PM
Ah I see, it seems a little pointless editing that out.  Censorship eh?


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: SLCPUNK on February 22, 2004, 04:27:33 PM
I was thinking about buying the edited version for my niece who is 14. I'd buy her the regular AFD, but my brother probably wouldn't be too happy about it. She doesn't like boy bands and likes to rock. So I think in that case they AFD edited version would be a great gift. She can pick up AFD a few more years after that.


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: chineseilusions on February 22, 2004, 04:42:50 PM
Yeah I often wondered about this myself I bought my first copy of AFD at wal-mart but it wasn't edited.

I often wonder how did they do the UYI albums in edited form?

They basically made basically, a best-of that has all the UYI songs that don't have curses and YCBM in edited form.
I have that and YCBM isnt on it


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: Saul on February 22, 2004, 04:47:52 PM
"I was thinking about buying the edited version for my niece who is 14."

why dont you just buy her the greatest hits album..there aint any cussing on that!

Hurry up march 23rd!! GH album is gunna rock!!!


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: duga on February 23, 2004, 02:36:47 AM
I was thinking about buying the edited version for my niece who is 14. I'd buy her the regular AFD, but my brother probably wouldn't be too happy about it. She doesn't like boy bands and likes to rock. So I think in that case they AFD edited version would be a great gift. She can pick up AFD a few more years after that.

Ridiculous  :hihi:


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: matt88 on February 23, 2004, 03:49:21 AM
On the AFD edited cd's does it say on the cover or somethin that it's an edited version?


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: SLCPUNK on February 23, 2004, 09:53:10 AM
I was thinking about buying the edited version for my niece who is 14. I'd buy her the regular AFD, but my brother probably wouldn't be too happy about it. She doesn't like boy bands and likes to rock. So I think in that case they AFD edited version would be a great gift. She can pick up AFD a few more years after that.

Ridiculous  :hihi:

Why? 'Cause I don't think my brother would like me dropping a CD in my nieces lap that is that grown up yet? What do you care? Yea I know she probably listens to shit that is on the same level with language, but it's a parent thing. I say the word Fuck all the time, but I don't say it in front of my kids. She may sneak a beer every now and then, but I'm not going to give her a beer when we go out.

 I think it's a great way to introduce a kid to great music.


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: SLCPUNK on February 23, 2004, 09:55:59 AM
"I was thinking about buying the edited version for my niece who is 14."

why dont you just buy her the greatest hits album..there aint any cussing on that!

Hurry up march 23rd!! GH album is gunna rock!!!

haha. Nope.


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: duga on February 23, 2004, 04:24:39 PM
I was thinking about buying the edited version for my niece who is 14. I'd buy her the regular AFD, but my brother probably wouldn't be too happy about it. She doesn't like boy bands and likes to rock. So I think in that case they AFD edited version would be a great gift. She can pick up AFD a few more years after that.

Ridiculous  :hihi:

Why? 'Cause I don't think my brother would like me dropping a CD in my nieces lap that is that grown up yet? What do you care? Yea I know she probably listens to shit that is on the same level with language, but it's a parent thing. I say the word Fuck all the time, but I don't say it in front of my kids. She may sneak a beer every now and then, but I'm not going to give her a beer when we go out.

 I think it's a great way to introduce a kid to great music.

I'm glad that I live in a country where we so far haven't got any "edited" CD's.


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: Dizzy on February 23, 2004, 05:55:15 PM
I was thinking about buying the edited version for my niece who is 14. I'd buy her the regular AFD, but my brother probably wouldn't be too happy about it. She doesn't like boy bands and likes to rock. So I think in that case they AFD edited version would be a great gift. .

Yeah, but by buying an edited version of any CD, you'd be supporting censorship.  Besides, all that's cut out is the cursing.  All the lyrics about drugs and banging girls are still intact.


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: SLCPUNK on February 23, 2004, 06:14:39 PM
I was thinking about buying the edited version for my niece who is 14. I'd buy her the regular AFD, but my brother probably wouldn't be too happy about it. She doesn't like boy bands and likes to rock. So I think in that case they AFD edited version would be a great gift. .

Yeah, but by buying an edited version of any CD, you'd be supporting censorship.  Besides, all that's cut out is the cursing.  All the lyrics about drugs and banging girls are still intact.

You missed my point. I am not going to hand my niece an album that my brother and his wife would not buy for the kid themselves. If she was in my car and we were driving around yea I'd play it. But if I gave it to her at that age, they'd probably woudn't be to happy about it. It's called respecting the boundaries they have for their child. Even if I didn't agree with it, I'd still respect it.

It's an edited version. Censorship is if the edited version was the only one available. This is an alternative version that is offered without curse words.

Buying something that is edited is not censorship. If you think that is censorship,then don't ever watch a rated "R" movie that has been edited for tv.


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: Will on February 23, 2004, 07:28:08 PM
Buying something that is edited is not censorship. If you think that is censorship,then don't ever watch a rated "R" movie that has been edited for tv.

I hate that...like Basic Instinct edited version... ::) Give me a break. Have you ever watched Scarface edited for TV? That's pretty lame. I'm glad I don't have TV anymore. Nothing beats the DVD!

As for the thread, I would never buy an edited version of an album, even for someone young. I understand you don't want to go against the parent's will but I think I'd rather wait 'til the person is older (or convince the parents... :hihi: )...Dizzy has a good point concerning the lyrics. Fuck and shit and motherfuckin may have been silenced but they can't change the meaning of the songs. Mr. Brownstone, Out Ta Get Me, My Michelle (you're daddy works in porno), Rocket Queen (the girl having sex in the background), etc. The GH doesn't seem like a bad idea after all!


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: SLCPUNK on February 23, 2004, 08:12:13 PM
Buying something that is edited is not censorship. If you think that is censorship,then don't ever watch a rated "R" movie that has been edited for tv.

I hate that...like Basic Instinct edited version... ::) Give me a break. Have you ever watched Scarface edited for TV? That's pretty lame. I'm glad I don't have TV anymore. Nothing beats the DVD!

As for the thread, I would never buy an edited version of an album, even for someone young. I understand you don't want to go against the parent's will but I think I'd rather wait 'til the person is older (or convince the parents... :hihi: )...Dizzy has a good point concerning the lyrics. Fuck and shit and motherfuckin may have been silenced but they can't change the meaning of the songs. Mr. Brownstone, Out Ta Get Me, My Michelle (you're daddy works in porno), Rocket Queen (the girl having sex in the background), etc. The GH doesn't seem like a bad idea after all!

Scarface sucks on tv, it's true. I like watching R movies on TV with my kids cause they bleep the words and nudity. ( Even edited, I wouldn't watch Scarface with my kids-not at their age.) That way I can enjoy them with my daughter in the room and not have to worry about certain parts.

I see both sides. In this case, with my niece, my brother is pretty laid back. But a couple of songs that say "suck me" or "fuck off" may push it for him. Also an edited version is good because she is the oldest. So even if her parents didn't care that much, she's still got siblings that are 10, 4, and 2.

We both know she hears it in school, or at her friends, but the job as parents is to draw some type of line in the sand. It's not the words per se, it's the principle really. Look at the Ozbourne kids. They walk around the house saying "fuck off". If my kid said that, they'd be laying on the floor in a second

The edited version is like everything else in life: not for everybody. I play AFD all the time, but don't crank it in front of my kids. I just don't.



Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: Mal Brossard on February 23, 2004, 08:12:53 PM
To give an answer about editing, I think it's all up to the record label what words get dropped.  My first GNR album was an edited copy of Live Era (I was 15 at the time, and my parents had used fuck, shit, etc. around me my whole life, but didnt think i should hear it on an album... fuckin' hypocrites).  The cut out words included fuck (numerous songs), "drink and drive" (ISE), cocaine (YCBM), heroin (My Michelle), and "hari kiri" (Estranged).  Just seems a bit asinine to cut these while leaving words like shit and bitch.  Frankly, I'd rather hear my as-yet nonexistant kid talking about cocaine than about "some bitch."  Hearing the word cocaine isn't going to make someone go out and do blow.


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: SLCPUNK on February 23, 2004, 08:30:34 PM
To give an answer about editing, I think it's all up to the record label what words get dropped.  My first GNR album was an edited copy of Live Era (I was 15 at the time, and my parents had used fuck, shit, etc. around me my whole life, but didnt think i should hear it on an album... fuckin' hypocrites).  The cut out words included fuck (numerous songs), "drink and drive" (ISE), cocaine (YCBM), heroin (My Michelle), and "hari kiri" (Estranged).  Just seems a bit asinine to cut these while leaving words like shit and bitch.  Frankly, I'd rather hear my as-yet nonexistant kid talking about cocaine than about "some bitch."  Hearing the word cocaine isn't going to make someone go out and do blow.

It's tough being a parent bro. I am a hypocrite. I drop bad words all the time. Try not to in front of my kids. I realize now that cussing alot kind of (in my opinion-don't everybody get in a huff) makes a person look bad. I'm trying not to cuss as much as I used to. I tell my kids that cussing makes somebody look bad, and I do, and like any bad habit it's tough to break.

If I buy them albums (at a younger age) that have lots of cussing and talk of drug, sex..whatever...then in a sense is condoning that behavior. I know, I know, everybody is going to say "Oh no it's not, it's just a song." But when you have kids around it's different.

It's like my dad smoking and telling me he wish I didn't smoke when I was a kid. Yea he's a hypocrite, but he's really wants what's best for me. In that case he didn't want me to smoke.

Sure everybody cusses, and does this and that. But plenty of people change and all of a sudden don't want those things for their children. EVEN THOUGH it was perfectly ok for them up until that point. Many people improve themselves because of their children.

Again it's all up to the parent what gets them in a huff. and what they permit the kid to see/hear thing is better than a neglected child. I've seen people grow up without attention, parents let them do whatever, say whatever...basically didn't care. And those kids were fucked up imho.



Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: Dizzy on February 23, 2004, 08:51:53 PM
You missed my point. I am not going to hand my niece an album that my brother and his wife would not buy for the kid themselves.

No no no, I got your point the first time.  My point was that no matter why you bought the edited version, you'd be supporting censorship.


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Buying something that is edited is not censorship.

The act of buying it isn't censorship, and I didn't say it was.  I said it was supporting censorship.

The edited version is censored.  By buying the censored version, you're adding another sold copy to the credit of the censored version.  That only encourages record companies to release censored versions, even if they're released alongside complete versions.



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then don't ever watch a rated "R" movie that has been edited for tv.

I don't.


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: chineseilusions on February 23, 2004, 09:03:41 PM
On the AFD edited cd's does it say on the cover or somethin that it's an edited version?

Yes it should have a sticker on the price tag that says edited or clean version


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: SlashFan on February 23, 2004, 11:36:36 PM

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It's tough being a parent bro. I am a hypocrite. I drop bad words all the time. Try not to in front of my kids. I realize now that cussing alot kind of (in my opinion-don't everybody get in a huff) makes a person look bad. I'm trying not to cuss as much as I used to. I tell my kids that cussing makes somebody look bad, and I do, and like any bad habit it's tough to break.

If I buy them albums (at a younger age) that have lots of cussing and talk of drug, sex..whatever...then in a sense is condoning that behavior. I know, I know, everybody is going to say "Oh no it's not, it's just a song." But when you have kids around it's different.

It's like my dad smoking and telling me he wish I didn't smoke when I was a kid. Yea he's a hypocrite, but he's really wants what's best for me. In that case he didn't want me to smoke.

Sure everybody cusses, and does this and that. But plenty of people change and all of a sudden don't want those things for their children. EVEN THOUGH it was perfectly ok for them up until that point. Many people improve themselves because of their children.

Again it's all up to the parent what gets them in a huff. and what they permit the kid to see/hear thing is better than a neglected child. I've seen people grow up without attention, parents let them do whatever, say whatever...basically didn't care. And those kids were fucked up imho.


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I don't have kids,but my sisters do.I don't cuss around them.I listen to uncensored stuff all of the time,but I never do when kids are around.

My parents were always telling me not to do this and not to do that,but ofcourse I did what they didn't want me to do. :peace:


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: warrel on February 24, 2004, 03:11:49 AM
I always thought the edited version just did not have the "Appetite for Destruction/Rape scene" in the booklet...


Title: Re:AFD-Edited Version
Post by: SlashFan on February 24, 2004, 03:20:54 AM
I always thought the edited version just did not have the "Appetite for Destruction/Rape scene" in the booklet...


It has almost all of the cuss words taken out,it really suck,I've heard it.I guess it would be ok for some people :smoking: