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Wake up, it's time to play! => Appetite For Collection => Topic started by: gnr2k6 on May 10, 2007, 07:36:42 AM



Title: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 10, 2007, 07:36:42 AM
does anybody what pro-shots especially from the old band we know IS available just isnt being shared?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 08:10:52 AM
new band - london acoustic, Vegas 01
old band - ritz rehearsals, rumoured whiskey 86 also in existence
cant remember many more...

well maybe these arent particularly pro-shot but they are sought after by me and many other fans im sure


FUCK ALL HOARDERS : ok:

known hoarders:

JohnM
Velvet1223
emilianors or someone like that and so on


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on May 10, 2007, 08:37:36 AM
Why would these people say they have this stuff but not share it?


 :peace:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 08:39:01 AM
easy.  To make money and get attention and provoke controversy, and to have a reason to be arrogant and so on


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: stolat on May 10, 2007, 08:39:16 AM
You know, hoarders.....that's what they do. ?:P


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 08:40:03 AM
You know, hoarders.....that's what they do. ?:P
yea sure thing


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on May 10, 2007, 08:40:44 AM
Is it mainly a money thing?


 :peace:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 08:41:29 AM
Is it mainly a money thing?


 :peace:
of course it is, either that or it gets them off owning such stuff:P


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: stolat on May 10, 2007, 08:42:28 AM
They like to be in control....


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on May 10, 2007, 08:43:17 AM
Is it mainly a money thing?


 :peace:
of course it is, either that or it gets them off owning such stuff:P

I can understand the 2nd part, I mean if i had HOB 2001 on DVD i think i'd blow.


 :peace:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: stolat on May 10, 2007, 08:44:37 AM
HOB 2001? What's that?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 08:46:04 AM
Is it mainly a money thing?


 :peace:
of course it is, either that or it gets them off owning such stuff:P

I can understand the 2nd part, I mean if i had HOB 2001 on DVD i think i'd blow.


 :peace:

lol youre mad, this stuff is hoarded by people who have no life, so they take advantage by owning rare gnr stuff to make their life better


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 08:47:02 AM
HOB 2001? What's that?
House of Blues 01.01.2001, Las Vegas NV

First show by the new band in 7 and 1/2 years, very sought after


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: stolat on May 10, 2007, 08:50:02 AM
HOB 2001? What's that?
House of Blues 01.01.2001, Las Vegas NV

First show by the new band in 7 and 1/2 years, very sought after

Oh. Carry on..... :peace:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 08:54:08 AM
HOB 2001? What's that?
House of Blues 01.01.2001, Las Vegas NV

First show by the new band in 7 and 1/2 years, very sought after

Oh. Carry on..... :peace:

you dont know much about this show?

attendance: 1,800
soundcheck: Welcome To The Jungle, November Rain
set: Welcome To The Jungle, It's So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Live And Let Die, Oh My God, My Michelle, Think About You, You Could Be Mine, Sweet Child O' Mine, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, November Rain, Out Ta Get Me, Rocket Queen, Rhiad And The Bedouins, Chinese Democracy, Patience, The Blues, Nightrain
encore: Chicken Binge [Buckethead], Silkworms, Paradise City
audio/video recording?: audio, video [pro-shot]
notes: Playing his first GN'R show in 7 1/2 years, Axl Rose does not disappoint the sold out crowd of 1800. At 3:32 a.m., a short animation intro is shown on the video screen behind the stage. An animated Axl introduces himself as ?Uncle Axl? and the clip is almost a mock of all the press about him in recent years. Robin Finck comes out on stage first and starts strumming the opening chords to 'Welcome To The Jungle' very slowly. The band breaks into the song and so does the athletically-clad Axl. Sporting silver sunglasses, Adidas jogging pants and a Chinese dragon shirt, this older and wiser Axl is better than ever. His vocals are crisp and he still can control a crowd with passion. During songs he is running to the side of the stage to watch the band perform. The band, consisting of Dizzy Reed on keyboards, Paul Tobias on guitar, Tommy Stinson on bass, Robin Finck on guitar, Buckethead on guitar, Bryan 'Brain' Mantia on drums and Chris Pittman on keyboards, prove their validity as a unit throughout each song. They were tight and menacing to the ears of all in attendance. The highlight of the show was a ?Welcome Back? chant that started while the band was getting ready to play ?Patience.? A smiling and almost-about-to-cry Axl told the crowd that he was ?embarrassed.? Consisting of mostly Appetite For Destruction tracks, the set was blistering. ?Think About You? was played, which hasn?t been documented as being played since 1986! The new tracks, played for the first time, were full of new sounds that were ready for public consumption. ?Oh My God? was reworked and has a new, hard edge that makes you cringe. 'Chinese Democracy' was written by Axl after he saw the movie Kundun, he told the crowd. 'The Blues' has a piano intro that after 10 seconds is injected with heavy guitars. ?Silkworms? (the title being told to me by Jeremy of the road crew), was heavily infused by keyboards and pure rock guitars. When he introduced the band, Axl went out of his way to thank Paul for helping him live through the past 8 years. After 'Chinese Democracy,' with Brain playing a short drum solo, Buckethead struts the stage and starts playing nunchuks and throws them into the crowd. He then throws out chocolate roses from a KFC bucket to crowd members (one of which was stolen from me by Mark Roulley!!). Towards the end of the set, Buckethead plays a short, country-western style jam by himself, with Axl dancing and laughing at the side of the stage. After ?Paradise City,? Axl thanks the crowd and wishes everyone a happy new year. At 5:36 a.m., after 2 hours and 4 minutes of pure rock & roll and chaos, the show is over, leaving the 1800 concert-goers with their jaws-dropped and craving for more. The band soundchecked at the House of Blues at 6 a.m. on Dec. 31.

Was originally scheduled for an official release as a DVD, street value ?5000
has links in japan and USA


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: stolat on May 10, 2007, 08:57:33 AM
I see. Carry on gnfnr 87.  :yes:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 09:03:55 AM
I see. Carry on gnfnr 87.? :yes:
what more can i tell you? I don't have it/haven't seen it! lol


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: stolat on May 10, 2007, 09:07:41 AM
What I should've said was thanks for explaining that to me. Well done.  :peace:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 09:11:44 AM
What I should've said was thanks for explaining that to me. Well done.? :peace:
you should know all this already! lol, oh it is also rumoured that there's a madagascar 01 demo on the dvd menu


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: stolat on May 10, 2007, 09:15:51 AM
 :yes: You painted a most descriptive picture of HOB 2001. I had no idea about that! Wow! to say the very least!!


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 09:19:15 AM
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=2915

thats emilianors' profile, 'niceboy84'


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 09:19:56 AM
:yes: You painted a most descriptive picture of HOB 2001. I had no idea about that! Wow! to say the very least!!
nearly every gnr boots collector knew about it ages ago :-\


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Led_Zep on May 10, 2007, 09:21:59 AM
Ohama 93, Detriot 93,

06 Norway shows and The Plum.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 09:23:57 AM
Ohama 93, Detriot 93,

06 Norway shows and The Plum.
where did u hear about people owning those shows?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: stolat on May 10, 2007, 09:26:17 AM
I see how high the stakes are. I really, really do. ?: ok: Round 'em up! The temperature has now been raised...... : ok:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 09:30:34 AM
its emilianors everyone should be after, i know that hes hoarding after show stuff from the 91-93 era


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: stolat on May 10, 2007, 09:33:08 AM
Really makes us boil  >:(
Keep cool.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: kaasupoltin on May 10, 2007, 09:49:17 AM
People, it's not always about the money. "Just" get something they want and trade it with them. Well it doesn't work with all of them, but with some yes.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jezza103 on May 10, 2007, 10:40:18 AM
wembley 92 full show is being hoarded aswell


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 10:42:03 AM
wembley 92 full show is being hoarded aswell
where did you hear that someone had that?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Just_Me on May 10, 2007, 10:46:06 AM
People, it's not always about the money. "Just" get something they want and trade it with them. Well it doesn't work with all of them, but with some yes.
Problem with that is these people tend to want something equally rare...which will belong to another trader/horder and you'll need yet another equally rare boot to trade with them.

Unless someone's nice enough to start it off by giving something away or you tape a show yourself its very hard/expensive to trade with some of these people.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 10:52:30 AM
yeah thats how they work, its not like they give it to very few people, it seems they dont give anything out to ANYONE at all, which is unfair


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: kaasupoltin on May 10, 2007, 11:05:50 AM
People, it's not always about the money. "Just" get something they want and trade it with them. Well it doesn't work with all of them, but with some yes.
Problem with that is these people tend to want something equally rare...which will belong to another trader/horder and you'll need yet another equally rare boot to trade with them.

Unless someone's nice enough to start it off by giving something away or you tape a show yourself its very hard/expensive to trade with some of these people.

That's true. But somehow I kinda understand their point too.. at some level.

1. To record a show, you have to take risks + you can't enjoy the show to maximum. <-- This is the best reason to not share the show to everyone.
2. You paid your ass off to get something you don't have (= something rare too).

These two things may 'cause a feeling like "what did anyone do to get these from me free?".. but if the "hoarder" is not ready to trade his shit to any other bootleg, he's just an idiot. That's when I'd call him a hoarder :hihi: But I understand that people who have something really rare don't want to trade it to anything less-rare in these two occasions. But if they do trade (or better: share it free), that's fucking amazing.

I personally own an MD-player (+ could've borrowed a good mic) and almost was going to record the Helsinki shows last summer, but I decided to not to do it. I wanted to enjoy the shows. So people who are ready to just stand up and keep their mouth shut for the whole show, I appreciate them very much. I would have shared my recordings with other people, but I understand if the recorder is only up for trades at the start.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: GnRScouse on May 10, 2007, 11:37:38 AM
is wembley 92 video really out there somewhere? this is the one show i want more than any other. my first ever gig, 16 years of age!


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jezza103 on May 10, 2007, 12:02:37 PM
i can assure you wembley 92 is out there, i was on guns n' roses bootleg forum, and this same topic came up and a guy came on and said he had it but it was his piece of history and he would not sell it for any amount of money because he wanted it to be unique. caused quite a stir i can tell ya.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: GnRScouse on May 10, 2007, 12:04:59 PM
i bet it did. was it established whether it was a pro-shot leak or just an audience cam?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: estebanf on May 10, 2007, 01:11:54 PM
emilianors is a cunt  and I fucking hate him, such an arrogant cocky fuck, someone should seriously track him down and lamp shit out of him

Sorry, but how can you hate someone just because he has a bigger collection than you? Do you realise how ridiculous it is?

By the way, I know Emiliano, he's a great guy, and he's always being accused of loooots of things by people who dont know a shit about him.

If you want to know what he has or what he hoards, you can PM him or wait until his website is finished. I dont see any good reasons to justify your insults to him in this thread.

By the way, I reported your post to the mods, don't forget Emiliano is also a user here.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 01:19:50 PM
emilianors is a cunt? and I fucking hate him, such an arrogant cocky fuck, someone should seriously track him down and lamp shit out of him

Sorry, but how can you hate someone just because he has a bigger collection than you? Do you realise how ridiculous it is?

By the way, I know Emiliano, he's a great guy, and he's always being accused of loooots of things by people who dont know a shit about him.

If you want to know what he has or what he hoards, you can PM him or wait until his website is finished. I dont see any good reasons to justify your insults to him in this thread.

By the way, I reported your post to the mods, don't forget Emiliano is also a user here.
that is out of order you reporting me, people should be allowed to voice their opinions here, just cuz u kiss his ass you dont like people bashing him, he isnt a great guy, i spoke to him once before and he was very blunt and rude, and I have reason to believe he is holding up the trading community by hoarding, a 'great' person you say? whats so 'great' about him when i've heard stuff like that about him, and finally I have a life, I don't care about how big his collection is, just him hoarding bugs me


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 01:26:56 PM
and one more thing, u gotta understand that I only bash people if i have reason to, otherwise I am a fan like any other who will stick together with nearly anyone


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: fieldsy on May 10, 2007, 01:31:57 PM
emilianors is a cunt? and I fucking hate him, such an arrogant cocky fuck, someone should seriously track him down and lamp shit out of him

Sorry, but how can you hate someone just because he has a bigger collection than you? Do you realise how ridiculous it is?

By the way, I know Emiliano, he's a great guy, and he's always being accused of loooots of things by people who dont know a shit about him.

If you want to know what he has or what he hoards, you can PM him or wait until his website is finished. I dont see any good reasons to justify your insults to him in this thread.

By the way, I reported your post to the mods, don't forget Emiliano is also a user here.
that is out of order you reporting me, people should be allowed to voice their opinions here, just cuz u kiss his ass you dont like people bashing him, he isnt a great guy, i spoke to him once before and he was very blunt and rude, and I have reason to believe he is holding up the trading community by hoarding, a 'great' person you say? whats so 'great' about him when i've heard stuff like that about him, and finally I have a life, I don't care about how big his collection is, just him hoarding bugs me

There is voicing your opinion and then there is saying 'i want to lamp the shit out of him'.  I have dealt with Emiliano and he is a good guy.  Where is your proof.  What makes me laugh about the GNR bootleg community is people believe the hype and bullshit out there.  Where is your proof?  Seriously......if you have some, show it. 


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jezza103 on May 10, 2007, 01:32:40 PM
wembley 92 was an audience shot from the left hand side of the stage from the seats. thats all i no


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: nice_boy84 on May 10, 2007, 01:42:15 PM
emilianors is a cunt? and I fucking hate him, such an arrogant cocky fuck, someone should seriously track him down and lamp shit out of him
someone?
why dont YOU try? you dont have the ball, do you?
i mean.. you're searching me at myspace and msn, you're kinda freak man, you have too much free time,
maybe you should finish school first ;)


and please tell me what im hoarding,
maybe your pretty smart friend (yes, david "i can't think" prisby) told u shit about me




so, LITTLE PUNK: please tell me what im hoarding


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: timebomb on May 10, 2007, 01:47:38 PM
try this on i herd that jm has a good vid of 11,25,92
i also was to  there is a good vid of 7,16,93


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: timebomb on May 10, 2007, 01:51:09 PM
emilianors is a cunt? and I fucking hate him, such an arrogant cocky fuck, someone should seriously track him down and lamp shit out of him
someone?
why dont YOU try? you dont have the ball, do you?
i mean.. you're searching me at myspace and msn, you're kinda freak man, you have too much free time,
maybe you should finish school first ;)


and please tell me what im hoarding,
maybe your pretty smart friend (yes, david "i can't think" prisby) told u shit about me




so, LITTLE PUNK: please tell me what im hoarding

nice boys u admitted on another board about the vid 7,29,91 u had that others wanna convert weather it came about dunno.
also on the cbgb deal u screwed me over u were to give me the after party 2 song dvd and the 6,13,92 2 song dvdr u wimped out and said oh my dvdr are broke something to that effect. i had to pick other shit lower class stuff to get from u


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: nice_boy84 on May 10, 2007, 01:54:58 PM
man, you have 100000000000 dvds, why dont you go for a walk to see how is life?


by the way, my name is emiliano rojas salinas, and my site is www.gnrbootlegs.com
for those who ask who am i.
i traded worldwide with A LOT of people over the last years and im not trading since.. im not sure, but like a year..
so....
i can't figure out what this baby is saying.


i need to know what im hoarding!!! because i dont know ?;D

"PUNK!"


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jezza103 on May 10, 2007, 01:58:41 PM
just out of interest when are you opening your site


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: timebomb on May 10, 2007, 02:02:18 PM
i will do what i want when i want
u know it to be true man  u admitted to the board u had a shitty video of 7,29,91 and a few others wanted to transfur it then u said when it does get done i do not get it because i brought the truth out and it pissed u off


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: JAC185 on May 10, 2007, 02:44:46 PM
Peope aren't necessarily hoarding, they just want to trade for a trade.

gnfnr_87, you don't give away common dvds like Paris 92 or whatever for free, you'd want a trade for it.

Similarly, if you had HOB, you've said yourself you wouldn't just share it with everyone, but you'd keep it to trade for something of equal value (whatever that may be).

People who say 'i have this and you're never getting this' are arseholes, but don't bash people just because they have stuff you dont, thats not cool.



Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: MikeD on May 10, 2007, 03:04:04 PM
Does anyone have any pictures from HOB 2001? thanks.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 03:11:50 PM
i will do what i want when i want
u know it to be true man? u admitted to the board u had a shitty video of 7,29,91 and a few others wanted to transfur it then u said when it does get done i do not get it because i brought the truth out and it pissed u off
glad timebomb is standing by me


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 03:14:49 PM
man, you have 100000000000 dvds, why dont you go for a walk to see how is life?


by the way, my name is emiliano rojas salinas, and my site is www.gnrbootlegs.com
for those who ask who am i.
i traded worldwide with A LOT of people over the last years and im not trading since.. im not sure, but like a year..
so....
i can't figure out what this baby is saying.


i need to know what im hoarding!!! because i dont know ?;D

"PUNK!"
you are hoarding after show stuff, and you have said in other words that me and timebomb have no life, and I've had enough bad experiences with hoarders to hate them enough already, so..


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: timebomb on May 10, 2007, 03:19:26 PM
your welcome

but what i just said to u on msn and u never replied stands


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: fieldsy on May 10, 2007, 03:35:41 PM
ok gnfnr_87.....tell me something

What have you released to the community to help it so much?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on May 10, 2007, 03:51:40 PM
Peope aren't necessarily hoarding, they just want to trade for a trade.

gnfnr_87, you don't give away common dvds like Paris 92 or whatever for free, you'd want a trade for it.

Similarly, if you had HOB, you've said yourself you wouldn't just share it with everyone, but you'd keep it to trade for something of equal value (whatever that may be).

People who say 'i have this and you're never getting this' are arseholes, but don't bash people just because they have stuff you dont, thats not cool.



that is such crap.. people who hold on with something extremly rare, and say they'll only trade.... Are the people who would only sell that same thing for way to much years ago.. Or would not even list it...

nowadays they should just give it to one person, so it can spread, and NOT be dick about it...


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: nice_boy84 on May 10, 2007, 04:17:02 PM
man, you have 100000000000 dvds, why dont you go for a walk to see how is life?


by the way, my name is emiliano rojas salinas, and my site is www.gnrbootlegs.com
for those who ask who am i.
i traded worldwide with A LOT of people over the last years and im not trading since.. im not sure, but like a year..
so....
i can't figure out what this baby is saying.


i need to know what im hoarding!!! because i dont know ?;D

"PUNK!"
you are hoarding after show stuff, and you have said in other words that me and timebomb have no life, and I've had enough bad experiences with hoarders to hate them enough already, so..
1st. im not hoarding NOTHING, that recording you said it's around, maybe u cant get it because you're just a stupid young kid. and you know exactly about what we're talking? i mean.. what do u know about that recording? venue? date? something? or maybe a fuckin' stupid blind old "lifeforgnr" friend of you told you "something" ??
2nd.
(...)you have said in other words that me and timebomb have no life, and I've had enough bad experiences with hoarders to hate them enough already, so..
you made my point


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Led_Zep on May 10, 2007, 05:14:55 PM
Ohama 93, Detriot 93,

06 Norway shows and The Plum.
where did u hear about people owning those shows?

If you've noticed on John M's site under the requests he's looking for those 93 shows.

Dally from mygnrforum, says he has the Norway  DVD's

http://members.lycos.co.uk/lethalgnr/dvds.htm  Lethal apparently has those shows.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 05:27:46 PM
ok gnfnr_87.....tell me something

What have you released to the community to help it so much?
nothing but whatever i receive, i think im a fair trader


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 05:29:31 PM
man, you have 100000000000 dvds, why dont you go for a walk to see how is life?


by the way, my name is emiliano rojas salinas, and my site is www.gnrbootlegs.com
for those who ask who am i.
i traded worldwide with A LOT of people over the last years and im not trading since.. im not sure, but like a year..
so....
i can't figure out what this baby is saying.


i need to know what im hoarding!!! because i dont know  ;D

"PUNK!"
you are hoarding after show stuff, and you have said in other words that me and timebomb have no life, and I've had enough bad experiences with hoarders to hate them enough already, so..
1st. im not hoarding NOTHING, that recording you said it's around, maybe u cant get it because you're just a stupid young kid. and you know exactly about what we're talking? i mean.. what do u know about that recording? venue? date? something? or maybe a fuckin' stupid blind old "lifeforgnr" friend of you told you "something" ??
2nd.
(...)you have said in other words that me and timebomb have no life, and I've had enough bad experiences with hoarders to hate them enough already, so..
you made my point
i am not a stupid young kid, i reach my 20s later this year, you talk shit you know youre a hoarder u just dont like admitting it


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 10, 2007, 06:26:32 PM
do we know for a fact if a horder has the HOB '01 show? and if so how much does he want for it?
not quite for a fact, but i think there was an offer of ?5000 for it, or thatr johnm has it


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jezza103 on May 10, 2007, 06:31:31 PM
wow with all these "hard facts" floating round its hard to concentrate on life  ???


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: cotis on May 10, 2007, 06:42:43 PM
Ohama 93, Detriot 93,

06 Norway shows and The Plum.
where did u hear about people owning those shows?

If you've noticed on John M's site under the requests he's looking for those 93 shows.

Dally from mygnrforum, says he has the Norway  DVD's

http://members.lycos.co.uk/lethalgnr/dvds.htm  Lethal apparently has those shows.

lethal's DVD of the PLUM 5/18/06 turned out to be the 3 clips from youtube that were posted in crappy quality.

wouldn't be surprised if those were the same.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: jarmo on May 10, 2007, 06:50:37 PM
FYI: If some of you are gonna keep insulting others, this thread will be history.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 10, 2007, 07:07:59 PM
do we know for a fact if a horder has the HOB '01 show? and if so how much does he want for it?
not quite for a fact, but i think there was an offer of ?5000 for it, or thatr johnm has it

Did JohnM tell you that?
Did NiceBoy74 tell you what he was hoarding?

Some one thold you that some one said that some one has something.
Damn that's a great discusion.

I traded with NiceBoy.
I believe that went ok so to me he is just a normal trader.
I also had a few talks with JohnM in the past.
If you want to know what they have to trade ask him.
Don't go off on all those hear say shit.
Try asking somebody personally.
You be suprised.....

Johan


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 10, 2007, 07:09:38 PM
back on topic
list of pro shots being horded
and a contact email for the hoarders?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: estebanf on May 10, 2007, 07:34:18 PM
Ohama 93, Detriot 93,

06 Norway shows and The Plum.
where did u hear about people owning those shows?

If you've noticed on John M's site under the requests he's looking for those 93 shows.

Dally from mygnrforum, says he has the Norway  DVD's

http://members.lycos.co.uk/lethalgnr/dvds.htm  Lethal apparently has those shows.

The ''ultra rare'' dvd from the plumm ended being three shitty youtube (FLV files) videos converted to vob.

Everyone can make those ''ultra rare'' dvds. Download the FLV files, use convertx to dvd or any other software, and that's it.

But they are non dvd quality crap. Its better to share the FLV files instead of making them big without sense.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 11, 2007, 02:57:08 AM
FYI: If some of you are gonna keep insulting others, this thread will be history.




/jarmo
I will calm down from now on jarmo you have my word


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 11, 2007, 02:59:44 AM
back on topic
list of pro shots being horded
and a contact email for the hoarders?
I'm not sure if there are many to be fair, i think timebomb may know a few, if you email them, it wont change much in most cases


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: RobinFinck on May 11, 2007, 05:42:04 AM
we also know theres a version of better with an acoustic guitar according to MSL who was speaking to people about that last week


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: zombux on May 11, 2007, 06:19:51 AM
HOB2001 doesn't exist. period.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr-4-ever on May 11, 2007, 08:31:37 AM
HOB2001 doesn't exist. period.

Agreed. There is no proof of it existing.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Ericnor on May 11, 2007, 09:01:51 AM
HOB2001 doesn't exist. period.

More fuel on this, but whatever, here is my "experience" with the HOB show:

A few years back (when I was more into the trading circle than I am these days) there were rumours about a few unreleased shows.

Anyhow, these few shows were CBGB's and Vegas 01. A guy I knew through trading was gonna get them both... I, of course, thought he was joking etc, didnt believe it too much, but would of course be interested if it was true.

Long story short: He got a hold of CBGB's, and he sent it to me... awesome. Almost 20 years after the show, it finally appeared on video.
He also told me to hold it and not share or tell anyone (at least not for a while), and that we would get Vegas in the near future. As much as I am not into hoarding etc, I held my new dvd tight, and didnt tell anyone about it.

Well, something happened after some weeks/months (cant remember the timeperiod), right before the Vegas show was about to be revealed to him/me.
Someone all of a sudden shared CBGB's. (I think it also was torrented right after that)
It resulted in the fact that Vegas never saw the light of day? :-\
(At least that is what was told me by the same guy who handed me CBGB's waaay before anyone else had it.)

I for one believe Vegas exist, and that someone has it.
I also believe it will be out one day, but only time will tell.

-Eirik


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on May 11, 2007, 09:05:03 AM
Wasn't the full 22/5/93 Israel show supposed to be hoarded by someone?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 11, 2007, 10:22:43 AM
HOB2001 doesn't exist. period.

More fuel on this, but whatever, here is my "experience" with the HOB show:

A few years back (when I was more into the trading circle than I am these days) there were rumours about a few unreleased shows.

Anyhow, these few shows were CBGB's and Vegas 01. A guy I knew through trading was gonna get them both... I, of course, thought he was joking etc, didnt believe it too much, but would of course be interested if it was true.

Long story short: He got a hold of CBGB's, and he sent it to me... awesome. Almost 20 years after the show, it finally appeared on video.
He also told me to hold it and not share or tell anyone (at least not for a while), and that we would get Vegas in the near future. As much as I am not into hoarding etc, I held my new dvd tight, and didnt tell anyone about it.

Well, something happened after some weeks/months (cant remember the timeperiod), right before the Vegas show was about to be revealed to him/me.
Someone all of a sudden shared CBGB's. (I think it also was torrented right after that)
It resulted in the fact that Vegas never saw the light of day? :-\
(At least that is what was told me by the same guy who handed me CBGB's waaay before anyone else had it.)

I for one believe Vegas exist, and that someone has it.
I also believe it will be out one day, but only time will tell.

-Eirik
so youre saying this person didnt like CBGBs getting out so Vegas never came out because of that? fitting together rather well all this


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: wadey on May 11, 2007, 11:28:53 AM
ive been told by various sources that HOB2001 is definately out there, just a matter of time before it surfaces


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: shaunbhoy on May 11, 2007, 11:42:25 AM
ive been told by various sources that HOB2001 is definately out there, just a matter of time before it surfaces

l heard there is an unathored version of HOB 01


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: zombux on May 11, 2007, 12:09:23 PM
CBGBs existed indeed, there was a proof - One In A Million video from MTV. so the rest of the show was eventually released.

but there is NO PROOF, repeat NO PROOF of it existing. that's it.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Alan on May 11, 2007, 12:42:51 PM
HOB2001 doesn't exist. period.

More fuel on this, but whatever, here is my "experience" with the HOB show:

A few years back (when I was more into the trading circle than I am these days) there were rumours about a few unreleased shows.

Anyhow, these few shows were CBGB's and Vegas 01. A guy I knew through trading was gonna get them both... I, of course, thought he was joking etc, didnt believe it too much, but would of course be interested if it was true.

Long story short: He got a hold of CBGB's, and he sent it to me... awesome. Almost 20 years after the show, it finally appeared on video.
He also told me to hold it and not share or tell anyone (at least not for a while), and that we would get Vegas in the near future. As much as I am not into hoarding etc, I held my new dvd tight, and didnt tell anyone about it.

Well, something happened after some weeks/months (cant remember the timeperiod), right before the Vegas show was about to be revealed to him/me.
Someone all of a sudden shared CBGB's. (I think it also was torrented right after that)
It resulted in the fact that Vegas never saw the light of day? :-\
(At least that is what was told me by the same guy who handed me CBGB's waaay before anyone else had it.)

I for one believe Vegas exist, and that someone has it.
I also believe it will be out one day, but only time will tell.

-Eirik
so youre saying this person didnt like CBGBs getting out so Vegas never came out because of that? fitting together rather well all this

either that or they were going to trade CBGBs, which was at the time not widely available for the vegas show, then when CBGB got torrented it had no value anymore so the guy had no need to trade.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Ericnor on May 11, 2007, 12:56:57 PM
CBGB's and HOB were both coming from the same guy I think.
He definetively didnt like seeing CBGB's all of a sudden being "out there" (when it was not suppose to leak at all to his knowledge), so unfortunately that made a powerful stop for Vegas, at least for the trader I was getting it from....

-Eirik


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: nice_boy84 on May 11, 2007, 12:59:47 PM
nice boys u admitted on another board about the vid 7,29,91 u had that others wanna convert weather it came about dunno.
also on the cbgb deal u screwed me over u were to give me the after party 2 song dvd and the 6,13,92 2 song dvdr u wimped out and said oh my dvdr are broke something to that effect. i had to pick other shit lower class stuff to get from u

1) i do NOT have inglewood 91 video, i wish i had, all i got is a vhs gen 1000 PAL version of costa mesta 91
2) i do NOT have those 2 wembley92 videos, i was going to get them when i get cbgb and then send to u, but since you sent me BAD BURNED DISCS i couldn't made the deal.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Red1 on May 11, 2007, 01:14:18 PM
nice boys u admitted on another board about the vid 7,29,91 u had that others wanna convert weather it came about dunno.
also on the cbgb deal u screwed me over u were to give me the after party 2 song dvd and the 6,13,92 2 song dvdr u wimped out and said oh my dvdr are broke something to that effect. i had to pick other shit lower class stuff to get from u

1) i do NOT have inglewood 91 video, i wish i had, all i got is a vhs gen 1000 PAL version of costa mesta 91
2) i do NOT have those 2 wembley92 videos, i was going to get them when i get cbgb and then send to u, but since you sent me BAD BURNED DISCS i couldn't made the deal.

Do you have HOB '01?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: zombux on May 11, 2007, 01:54:57 PM
Do you have HOB '01?

 :rofl: classic ;D


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: timebomb on May 11, 2007, 02:03:01 PM
nice boys u admitted on another board about the vid 7,29,91 u had that others wanna convert weather it came about dunno.
also on the cbgb deal u screwed me over u were to give me the after party 2 song dvd and the 6,13,92 2 song dvdr u wimped out and said oh my dvdr are broke something to that effect. i had to pick other shit lower class stuff to get from u

1) i do NOT have inglewood 91 video, i wish i had, all i got is a vhs gen 1000 PAL version of costa mesta 91
2) i do NOT have those 2 wembley92 videos, i was going to get them when i get cbgb and then send to u, but since you sent me BAD BURNED DISCS i couldn't made the deal.

i also replaced it u said it worked u still fucked me

u told me the 2 dvdr u had were on silver top dvdr they did not work for some reason so u could not deal do not twist the storythat is what was said on msn from u to me


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Ericnor on May 11, 2007, 02:11:28 PM
CBGBs existed indeed, there was a proof - One In A Million video from MTV. so the rest of the show was eventually released.

but there is NO PROOF, repeat NO PROOF of it existing. that's it.

CBGB's wasnt released. I think some former mtv guy or something got it somehow (stole it?). That show was filmed entirely by mtv. Still, it took 19 years for it to come out.

HOB is also filmed, pro shot  (that is a fact), so I dont see how you can say that there is no proof of it existing.

-Eirik


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: MikeD on May 11, 2007, 02:46:42 PM
How much was HOB 2001 rumored to cost (in US dollars).


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: nice_boy84 on May 11, 2007, 03:01:19 PM
nice boys u admitted on another board about the vid 7,29,91 u had that others wanna convert weather it came about dunno.
also on the cbgb deal u screwed me over u were to give me the after party 2 song dvd and the 6,13,92 2 song dvdr u wimped out and said oh my dvdr are broke something to that effect. i had to pick other shit lower class stuff to get from u

1) i do NOT have inglewood 91 video, i wish i had, all i got is a vhs gen 1000 PAL version of costa mesta 91
2) i do NOT have those 2 wembley92 videos, i was going to get them when i get cbgb and then send to u, but since you sent me BAD BURNED DISCS i couldn't made the deal.

i also replaced it u said it worked u still fucked me

u told me the 2 dvdr u had were on silver top dvdr they did not work for some reason so u could not deal do not twist the storythat is what was said on msn from u to me
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA, i told u that i had wembley92 in SILVER DVD?
i dont think so,
anyway, i dont care what you saying or your complaining.



ps. i DO NOT have vegas or any other gnr stuff not circulating, sorry


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: timebomb on May 11, 2007, 03:06:07 PM
silver top is not a silver dvd a silver dvd is the bottom u told me your silver top dvdr would not play


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 11, 2007, 04:12:24 PM
He is talking about the piano vid nice_boy84
I think this was on the OTGM board about 1 or 2 years ago.
Maybe even longer, it's so long ago that the topic isn't even on the board anymore.
Come on, humor us one more time.
I remember enjoying it the last time.

Johan

just talked to Ericnor.
the piano shit was from the lobby in argentina


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: cuddergnr on May 11, 2007, 04:51:16 PM
i could of got more of vma 2002 rehersal (i was the guy who sent to phrozen) but no he posted it to early . (mis compunication).

He also has more proshot stuff from 1992 but i forget what he said .


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: zombux on May 11, 2007, 04:52:42 PM

HOB is also filmed, pro shot? (that is a fact), so I dont see how you can say that there is no proof of it existing.

-Eirik

yes, it WAS filmed. it WAS supposed to come out in 2001 with Chinese Democracy ( :rofl: ). but it was scraped. there's no proof of it still existing. a few people claimed to have it, but they posted fake photos. give me some real proof of the video (screenshots or a short clip) and I will believe it. that's it. it's a chimera.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 11, 2007, 05:06:08 PM
How about his:
Sundance 2003

(http://www.dvd.gnr.gr/naamloos.JPG)
(http://www.dvd.gnr.gr/naamloos1.JPG)
(http://www.dvd.gnr.gr/naamloos2.JPG)
(http://www.dvd.gnr.gr/naamloos3.JPG)
(http://www.dvd.gnr.gr/naamloos4.JPG)


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: shaunbhoy on May 11, 2007, 05:10:15 PM
Glasgow 2006, any horders out there, get yourselfs a fuckin life :rant:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Ericnor on May 11, 2007, 05:11:15 PM

HOB is also filmed, pro shot? (that is a fact), so I dont see how you can say that there is no proof of it existing.

-Eirik

yes, it WAS filmed. it WAS supposed to come out in 2001 with Chinese Democracy ( :rofl: ). but it was scraped. there's no proof of it still existing. a few people claimed to have it, but they posted fake photos. give me some real proof of the video (screenshots or a short clip) and I will believe it. that's it. it's a chimera.

It was filmed = it still exists.

No way all of the shots of the show (diff. angles) has been destroyed. My opinion of course.... dont know for sure.

But yeah, I notice some people claim to have it now and then.
I'm sure the ones who really has it doesnt need (or want) to brag about it, and so we hear little or nothing from them.

-Eirik


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Nick722 on May 11, 2007, 06:25:39 PM
Axl is the biggest hoarder.
From what I've read, most of the 2002 and 2006 shows were filmed or recorded professionally.

NOW GET A LAMP AND ILL MEET YOU IN CALIFORNIA!


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: MikeD on May 11, 2007, 06:52:00 PM
what's that Sundance 2003 stuff?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 11, 2007, 06:58:32 PM
Axl is the biggest hoarder.
From what I've read, most of the 2002 and 2006 shows were filmed or recorded professionally.

NOW GET A LAMP AND ILL MEET YOU IN CALIFORNIA!
how can u say axl is the biggest hoarder? lol! funny u saying that but it aint quite hoarding as he is obviously entitled to possession of every video they have made


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Mr Bootlegs on May 11, 2007, 06:59:44 PM
I take it the sundanced stuff came from Velvet1223. This is another vid he is hoarding, he e-mailed me screens of that and other stuff about 2 years ago.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: MikeD on May 11, 2007, 07:01:29 PM
what is the sundance stuff?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: estebanf on May 11, 2007, 07:41:39 PM
 :peace: what about Argentina 07/16/93 vid?  :peace:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 11, 2007, 09:36:05 PM
Ask Nice_boy84 about that argentina lobby piano thing.
He can tell it way better then i can.

Sundance 2003 is just a SA dvd that was in my unauthored dvd box.
It's from the time VR was looking for a singer.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Mr Bootlegs on May 11, 2007, 09:38:22 PM
Yea but Velvet 1223 has a more complete version of this show, according to him anyway. Apparently it was made for mtv but they never aired it.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 11, 2007, 09:43:08 PM
Unknown Song
These Boots Were Made For Walking
New Rose
It's So Easy
Feel Like Making Love
Whole Lotta Rosie
I Wanna Be Your Dog
Sympathy For the Devil
Paradise City
Interview

1 hour and 3 min.

That's all there is on the dvd.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: MikeD on May 11, 2007, 09:47:23 PM
Ask Nice_boy84 about that argentina lobby piano thing.
He can tell it way better then i can.

Sundance 2003 is just a SA dvd that was in my unauthored dvd box.
It's from the time VR was looking for a singer.


Hey, thanks someone finally answered me. But what's "SA" mean. And are there at least mp3 of this stuff, if not video?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 11, 2007, 09:49:27 PM
haven't found audio of that one.
i only have a dvd of it.
A SA (Stand Alone) dvd.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: timebomb on May 11, 2007, 09:49:39 PM
Ask Nice_boy84 about that argentina lobby piano thing.
He can tell it way better then i can.

Sundance 2003 is just a SA dvd that was in my unauthored dvd box.
It's from the time VR was looking for a singer.


Hey, thanks someone finally answered me. But what's "SA" mean. And are there at least mp3 of this stuff, if not video?

sa means stand alone dvd recorder


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: nice_boy84 on May 12, 2007, 02:42:31 AM
He is talking about the piano vid nice_boy84
I think this was on the OTGM board about 1 or 2 years ago.
Maybe even longer, it's so long ago that the topic isn't even on the board anymore.
Come on, humor us one more time.
I remember enjoying it the last time.

Johan

just talked to Ericnor.
the piano shit was from the lobby in argentina
yes, and it's NOT a video,
crappy audio without axl's voice, so.. true? we'll see


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: MikeD on May 12, 2007, 03:03:08 AM
He is talking about the piano vid nice_boy84
I think this was on the OTGM board about 1 or 2 years ago.
Maybe even longer, it's so long ago that the topic isn't even on the board anymore.
Come on, humor us one more time.
I remember enjoying it the last time.

Johan

just talked to Ericnor.
the piano shit was from the lobby in argentina
yes, and it's NOT a video,
crappy audio without axl's voice, so.. true? we'll see



Ok, that's cool, so, ah, i gues you can at least post the auido. right? I'd like to hear this


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: qcmyoungwill on May 12, 2007, 07:33:48 AM
I have HOB 2001... it's awesome


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jezza103 on May 12, 2007, 07:37:20 AM
I have HOB 2001... it's awesome


ok : ok:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: qcmyoungwill on May 12, 2007, 07:38:34 AM
lol... I used to work with a guy named Rob Konowitch.  His father (Abbey Konowitch) happened to be one of the heads of MTV in the 80's and 90's.  Obviously he has access to all kinds of great stuff.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jezza103 on May 12, 2007, 07:42:57 AM
do i dare ask for any proof or would that be to much. or what else u have?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: qcmyoungwill on May 12, 2007, 07:49:50 AM
Eh... I'm just bullshitting about HOB.? I do know Rob Konowitch and I'm sure that his father has a ton of shit (he was a head of MTV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbey_konowitch), but I never asked him about it.? Haven't talked to him in years.? I probably should get in touch with him, if just to say hello.  He may have some stuff that nobody else has.? I wouldn't hoard it.? I couldn't care less about what anyone has.?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jezza103 on May 12, 2007, 07:51:39 AM
well if you do then you will be remembered as the guy who got alot more stuff into the gnr community i just hope u act on it


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: kaasupoltin on May 12, 2007, 07:54:28 AM
Ask him if he has some material from Helsinki 1991 :hihi:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: qcmyoungwill on May 12, 2007, 08:11:42 AM
I'm on it.  Let's see if we can screw over the hoarders and bring out the lost GNR!


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jezza103 on May 12, 2007, 08:13:11 AM
well good luck with it.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: qcmyoungwill on May 12, 2007, 08:38:37 AM
What I'd really like to see and hear is the old Hollywood Rose stuff.  And when is this Rapidfire album gonna come out?  Kevin Lawrence is a hoarder!  HAHAHAHA!


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: comaboy on May 12, 2007, 09:06:25 AM
i think tacoma 2002 is also being horded
if im not wrong mtv usa wanted to show it but never did
exactly the same thing with the brazil 92


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: cotis on May 12, 2007, 10:24:18 AM
i think tacoma 2002 is also being horded
if im not wrong mtv usa wanted to show it but never did

exactly the same thing with the brazil 92

not to mention the interview with Dizzy and Tommy from 02. it was proshot, there used to be a youtube link for it, I remember watching it. it was great.

but i'd love to see it in its entirety.



Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: 1987 on May 12, 2007, 01:44:55 PM
CBGBs existed indeed, there was a proof - One In A Million video from MTV. so the rest of the show was eventually released.

but there is NO PROOF, repeat NO PROOF of it existing. that's it.

i don't know of any proof that a fan has gotten hold of the video.. but anyone that was at the show could tell you for sure that the show was professionally shot.. there was whole camera crew their..   like i said.. i have now clue about the trading circle.. but can say pretty confidently that a pro shot recording of the show exists.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Mr. Redman on May 12, 2007, 07:38:57 PM
CBGBs existed indeed, there was a proof - One In A Million video from MTV. so the rest of the show was eventually released.

but there is NO PROOF, repeat NO PROOF of it existing. that's it.

i don't know of any proof that a fan has gotten hold of the video.. but anyone that was at the show could tell you for sure that the show was professionally shot.. there was whole camera crew their..   like i said.. i have now clue about the trading circle.. but can say pretty confidently that a pro shot recording of the show exists.

There has been a camera crew at EVERY SINGLE SHOW since 1991.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on May 12, 2007, 08:10:41 PM
After all these leaks i honestly say that the whole album is being horded. Which is both a good and a bad thing if you think about it


 :peace:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: zombux on May 13, 2007, 10:32:29 AM
yeah, Axl hoards it :rofl:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 13, 2007, 11:25:28 AM
I HAVE THE SUNDANCE DVD.....awesome show in the raw sound format.
if anyones got anything rare from 91-92 in pro shot drop me a pm and we can trade


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: timebomb on May 13, 2007, 11:32:03 AM
we want stuff out not to stay hidden


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 13, 2007, 11:33:30 AM
pm me if you want to trade


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: kaasupoltin on May 13, 2007, 11:37:33 AM
pm me if you want to trade

You got any proofs of your dvd? Or are you just fuckin' around?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr-4-ever on May 13, 2007, 11:40:45 AM
I HAVE THE SUNDANCE DVD.....awesome show in the raw sound format.
if anyones got anything rare from 91-92 in pro shot drop me a pm and we can trade

Prove that you have it and we can make a deal.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 13, 2007, 11:41:39 AM
tell me how to do some screen shots and i will


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: kaasupoltin on May 13, 2007, 11:44:20 AM
tell me how to do some screen shots and i will

Press "alt + prnt scrn" or something like that, go to Paint, Photoshop, ImageReady, etc. and make a new document and press "crtl + v".


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr-4-ever on May 13, 2007, 12:02:40 PM
tell me how to do some screen shots and i will

Press "alt + prnt scrn" or something like that, go to Paint, Photoshop, ImageReady, etc. and make a new document and press "crtl + v".


That probably won't work, I tried once and I got a black screen.

Um I think you should install 'Power DVD' and you have a option for taking screenshots. You take a screenshot and open Paint and click on paste, and there you have it.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 13, 2007, 12:36:07 PM
ok will do...
got to go to work but as soon as i get back ill be on to it.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr-4-ever on May 13, 2007, 12:41:54 PM
ok will do...
got to go to work but as soon as i get back ill be on to it.


Ok, you know where to find us.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 13, 2007, 05:30:30 PM
got a 2 dvd set of 08-16-91 Stockholm, Sweden (GNROSAS)
The screenshot version that was in the huge torrent on the US tracker for a few hours.

(http://www.dvd.gnr.gr/naamloos5.JPG)
(http://www.dvd.gnr.gr/naamloos6.JPG)


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: estrangedpaul on May 13, 2007, 06:57:06 PM
So it contains a soundboard of Rhiad and The Bedouins? Couldn't they at least release that?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 13, 2007, 06:59:58 PM
ok heres some screen shots

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i24/225679/PDVD_005.jpg)
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i24/225679/PDVD_004.jpg)
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i24/225679/PDVD_002.jpg)


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: timebomb on May 13, 2007, 07:17:29 PM
got a 2 dvd set of 08-16-91 Stockholm, Sweden (GNROSAS)
The screenshot version that was in the huge torrent on the US tracker for a few hours.

(http://www.dvd.gnr.gr/naamloos5.JPG)
(http://www.dvd.gnr.gr/naamloos6.JPG)

i have had this at least 6 months  a few knew i had it


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 13, 2007, 07:23:12 PM
just wondering how many people have those dvd's.
(sundance and the Stockholm one)


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: timebomb on May 13, 2007, 07:29:11 PM
just wondering how many people have those dvd's.
(sundance and the Stockholm one)

i only got stockholm


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: cotis on May 13, 2007, 07:30:30 PM
I've got stockholm, and would like to get sundance : ok:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 13, 2007, 07:43:27 PM
well ill see what gnr-4-ever  has got to trade....allthough if someone else wants a copy id love a decent paris 92


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 13, 2007, 07:56:42 PM
cotis, try the hub


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 13, 2007, 08:01:46 PM
nobody has this in complete...sundance that is apart from 2 other people...one of whom dosnt even come here


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 13, 2007, 08:03:56 PM
how did i make those screenshots then?
what is it i'm looking at on that dvd?

seen this before:

(http://www.dvd.gnr.gr/naamloos7.JPG)


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 13, 2007, 08:14:13 PM
nope thats not on mine....just comes straight on mate...


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 13, 2007, 08:16:03 PM
the dvd starts right away, but if you push menu on the remote or in powerdvd you will get that picture.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 13, 2007, 08:23:25 PM
how do i get my dvd's?
no need to switch to pm.
i can say that public.
some true trades but most true sharing or as gifts from friends.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 13, 2007, 08:25:31 PM
theres 1 person u got this from    SH?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 13, 2007, 08:26:59 PM
ofcource i only have 1 copy
humor me.
who is it.
i'm borred anyway.
atleast now i can have some fun.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: nyd on May 13, 2007, 08:28:04 PM
Man I miss being part of the trading game  ;D I have boxes full of GNR CDs in my cupboard ~ a few hundred concerts at least, that my girlfriend wants to chuck out ~ I might have a few rare bits. I don't have many rare videos though, I think the last kinda rare one I had was Docklands 02, though this is now widely available... I'll dig the box out and see what I can find.

Oh, and I know for sure I have a lot of rare Izzy shit on VHS. The trouble is finding the right video it is on. I dont even have a video player anymore lol so cant transfer it to DVD yet. I have Japanese TV footage that Izzy did to promote the JJH in 1992, have the Train Tracks music video and other bits and pieces.... I'll need to transfer it all for the documentary anyway, so this will be out to the community shortly after documentary is released  :)

Sorry, go back to your conversation now ~ Just enjoying this thread and wanting to throw in my $0.02  :hihi:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 13, 2007, 08:30:22 PM
ok jarl no need to be like that my friend


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 13, 2007, 08:34:37 PM
no realy i just want to have fun notting more.
i just want to have fun here.
and i want to know if you know who i got the dvd from.

it's just funny to see a dvd i have for more then a year witch is not common yet.
i wonder how the fuck i let that happen.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 13, 2007, 08:37:08 PM
im using this to get more gnr stuff then to share.
ill give you a clue of the name .....S H


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 13, 2007, 08:39:08 PM
no bells yet.
i don't know anybody with a name that has S H in it.

btw if you want to trade it i guess paris 92 is not a good choice.
you can pick that dvd up anywere.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 13, 2007, 08:41:49 PM
thats his initials


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 13, 2007, 08:43:07 PM
thats his initials

i know but they won't ring any bells


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 13, 2007, 08:44:09 PM
ok well thats that....


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Mr. Redman on May 13, 2007, 09:48:13 PM
Scott Hopkins, the guy with VMA's.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: axlfan04 on May 13, 2007, 10:32:17 PM
The audio from Calgary '88 supposedly exsists


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Mr Bootlegs on May 14, 2007, 08:01:19 AM
Quote
Scott Hopkins, the guy with VMA's

LOL, jogged your memory yet Jarl?


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 14, 2007, 08:09:11 AM
yup


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr-4-ever on May 14, 2007, 10:03:10 AM
I've just aranged a trade for the sundance dvd, so we won't trade gnr2k6.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 14, 2007, 10:42:29 AM
no problemo dude


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr-4-ever on May 14, 2007, 11:06:57 AM
no problemo dude
I'm glad you understand. : ok:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr2k6 on May 14, 2007, 12:47:51 PM
of course mate...unlike alot of people i dont get my pantys in a twist lol


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: Jarl on May 14, 2007, 02:55:56 PM
atleast we had some fun about it.
and gnr-4-ever, you should have asked me.
i don't trade anymore so you would have had it for free then.



Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnr-4-ever on May 15, 2007, 08:40:56 AM
atleast we had some fun about it.
and gnr-4-ever, you should have asked me.
i don't trade anymore so you would have had it for free then.



Thanks a lot, but I like to help out a fan rather than get something for free.  : ok:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: nice_boy84 on May 15, 2007, 09:03:42 AM
He is talking about the piano vid nice_boy84
I think this was on the OTGM board about 1 or 2 years ago.
Maybe even longer, it's so long ago that the topic isn't even on the board anymore.
Come on, humor us one more time.
I remember enjoying it the last time.

Johan

just talked to Ericnor.
the piano shit was from the lobby in argentina
yes, and it's NOT a video,
crappy audio without axl's voice, so.. true? we'll see



Ok, that's cool, so, ah, i gues you can at least post the auido. right? I'd like to hear this


sure, i'll upload it but i'll wait 'till my friends dave and his young buddy dies :;D


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 15, 2007, 10:22:57 AM
He is talking about the piano vid nice_boy84
I think this was on the OTGM board about 1 or 2 years ago.
Maybe even longer, it's so long ago that the topic isn't even on the board anymore.
Come on, humor us one more time.
I remember enjoying it the last time.

Johan

just talked to Ericnor.
the piano shit was from the lobby in argentina
yes, and it's NOT a video,
crappy audio without axl's voice, so.. true? we'll see



Ok, that's cool, so, ah, i gues you can at least post the auido. right? I'd like to hear this


sure, i'll upload it but i'll wait 'till my friends dave and his young buddy dies :;D
see??? you are the troublemaker now!!  I vowed to jarmo that i would remain calm from now on and now you're being your same old self, sarcastic and cocky


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: timebomb on May 15, 2007, 10:25:15 AM
i am staying out of this because it shows that he can not handle the truth he is a horder


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 15, 2007, 10:28:24 AM
dont blame ya man, and notice how he never directly replied when i named what he was hoarding


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: nice_boy84 on May 15, 2007, 12:59:10 PM
dont blame ya man, and notice how he never directly replied when i named what he was hoarding
you didn't name anything kid, im waiting

He is talking about the piano vid nice_boy84
I think this was on the OTGM board about 1 or 2 years ago.
Maybe even longer, it's so long ago that the topic isn't even on the board anymore.
Come on, humor us one more time.
I remember enjoying it the last time.

Johan

just talked to Ericnor.
the piano shit was from the lobby in argentina
yes, and it's NOT a video,
crappy audio without axl's voice, so.. true? we'll see



Ok, that's cool, so, ah, i gues you can at least post the auido. right? I'd like to hear this


sure, i'll upload it but i'll wait 'till my friends dave and his young buddy dies :;D
see??? you are the troublemaker now!! I vowed to jarmo that i would remain calm from now on and now you're being your same old self, sarcastic and cocky

no, im not being sacarstic, im realistic ;)
good luck getting it.
maybe u'll have to wait 'till i share it?
too bad
:(


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: timebomb on May 15, 2007, 01:06:50 PM
i know i said i would stay out of it but nice boys i just proved my point hording


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: sjgotnitro on May 15, 2007, 01:28:46 PM
He is talking about the piano vid nice_boy84
I think this was on the OTGM board about 1 or 2 years ago.
Maybe even longer, it's so long ago that the topic isn't even on the board anymore.
Come on, humor us one more time.
I remember enjoying it the last time.

Johan

just talked to Ericnor.
the piano shit was from the lobby in argentina
yes, and it's NOT a video,
crappy audio without axl's voice, so.. true? we'll see



Ok, that's cool, so, ah, i gues you can at least post the auido. right? I'd like to hear this


sure, i'll upload it but i'll wait 'till my friends dave and his young buddy dies :;D

That is not cool.

-



Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: nice_boy84 on May 15, 2007, 02:57:28 PM
He is talking about the piano vid nice_boy84
I think this was on the OTGM board about 1 or 2 years ago.
Maybe even longer, it's so long ago that the topic isn't even on the board anymore.
Come on, humor us one more time.
I remember enjoying it the last time.

Johan

just talked to Ericnor.
the piano shit was from the lobby in argentina
yes, and it's NOT a video,
crappy audio without axl's voice, so.. true? we'll see



Ok, that's cool, so, ah, i gues you can at least post the auido. right? I'd like to hear this


sure, i'll upload it but i'll wait 'till my friends dave and his young buddy dies :;D

Your a douchebag. Being sarcastic or not, that is not cool.


you're the douchebag since you take it serious


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: sjgotnitro on May 15, 2007, 03:39:04 PM
He is talking about the piano vid nice_boy84
I think this was on the OTGM board about 1 or 2 years ago.
Maybe even longer, it's so long ago that the topic isn't even on the board anymore.
Come on, humor us one more time.
I remember enjoying it the last time.

Johan

just talked to Ericnor.
the piano shit was from the lobby in argentina
yes, and it's NOT a video,
crappy audio without axl's voice, so.. true? we'll see



Ok, that's cool, so, ah, i gues you can at least post the auido. right? I'd like to hear this


sure, i'll upload it but i'll wait 'till my friends dave and his young buddy dies :;D

Your a douchebag. Being sarcastic or not, that is not cool.


you're the douchebag since you take it serious

Edited by me  :-X

 :peace:


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: timebomb on May 15, 2007, 03:42:09 PM
 AMEN


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: nice_boy84 on May 15, 2007, 04:05:28 PM
whatever you say buddy! ::)


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: sjgotnitro on May 15, 2007, 04:13:59 PM
whatever you say buddy! ::)

Hey I'm done posting on this. I speak my mind once in a while? ::) I could care less what you have or don't have or give anyone. Also if you want we can both delete our sensless side discussion.

I'm glad you consider me your buddy? ;D

Anyhow back on topic



Lynch the horders? :o


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: gnfnr_87 on May 15, 2007, 04:23:44 PM
yep so this proves nice_boy84 is nothing more but a complete fucking idiot.


Title: Re: Apart from the 2002 VMA'S what do we know is being horded
Post by: estebanf on May 15, 2007, 06:59:22 PM
yep so this proves nice_boy84 is nothing more but a complete fucking idiot.

why dont you chill out man?! You're insulting someone you dont know just because...errr.... he has something you dont? Do you realise how inmature you look?

Why dont you try another attitude if you want him to leak what he has? Why dont you trade with him, I'm sure he'll trade with you if you have something rare he doesn't have.

calm down dude, we are talking about some digital stuff! is that your biggest problem in your life?