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Tampa, Florida - Florida Republican Bob Allen, the Tampa Police Union's 2007 Lawmaker of the Year, was arrested for soliciting an undercover officer for oral sex in a public restroom.



Florida Republican Bob Allen, the local Police Union's 2007 Lawmaker of the Year, was arrested for soliciting an undercover officer for oral sex in a public restroom.

Allen recently sponsored a bill to crack down on soliciting sex in public parks.

Allen claims he was feeling nervous and offered sex to get away from a man he didn't trust.

The Republican lawmaker has repeatedly declared his innocence.

In the tape-recorded conversation with police after his arrest, Allen indicates he was scared when approached in Tampa's Veterans Memorial Park men's room. He said "This was a pretty stocky black guy, and there was nothing but other black guys around in the park."

Allen didn't know he was talking to a policeman until he pulled out a badge. He explained his behavior shortly after his arrest.

"I went ahhh -- I'm about to be a statistic. You catch all kinds of people, so a legislator is like whoa! You know, especially one that's the (police union) guy of the year...this is too ironic!"

Allen was charged with solicitation for prostitution.

Allen sponsored six different sex crime bills this year alone and three of them focus on indecent exposure and soliciting sex.

Bob Allen also chairs the House Energy Committee and co-chairs Senator John McCain's presidential campaign in Florida.

HAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAH

so he is either a GIGANTIC hypocrite or a humongous racist.

or both!!!


ahhaahahah

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVING me those family values!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Drop and give me twenty (http://youtube.com/watch?v=pmeGpAzPIho&mode=related&search=)

dear god, that youtube video had me crying tears of laughter.  the civil rights guy is just beside himself.  This is a classic moments in modern day politics.

can it get any worse for republicans?

when is fox news going to put the D next to this guys name?  :hihi:

I looked on Foxnews.com and couldn't even find the story......odds are it'll be ignored and turned around and skewed like all other items they touch.

Judging the way he holds that microphone, I'm guessing he has been frightened quite a few times in the past.

Didn't this happen about a month ago?  I'm surprised we hadn't yet discussed his "don't shoot me, I'll suck you off" response to black people.  :rofl:

Well the Republicans can eat their crow now........well if their mouths aren't already full...you know  :drool:

I went to CNN, MSNBC and NBC and didn't see it mentioned either.  Maybe some po-dunk congressman from Florida isn't worthy of national news?  Fox News obviously has a bias, but if you're gonna call em out, at least have some reference as to why they're biased.

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Nuff said??

Also here's some reference....CNN covered the story:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/12/mccain.solicit/index.html?iref=newssearch

HERE (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19742490/) is where MSNBC covered the story.

Really this is a sad situation in that the personal conflict this man must have experienced is a burden no one should have to carry. Perhaps, something similar to THIS (http://www.letter2ted.org/) should be started for this man.

Thanks for the link!

Ok, so this is a month old story.  That explains why it's not still lingering around.  My question is why bring up a month old story?

why can't you just condemn it and say this guy is a joke/racist/hypocrite?

Obviously not.

One more republican closet queen caught red handed as a complete hypocrite.

I think it's totally worth posting, who cares how old it is?

I don't care that it's old...except in that I'm surprised this wasn't pounced on earlier!  I'm less concerned with the hypocrisy, here, and moreso with the blatant racism...as an EXCUSE for his homosexual behavior.  "I'm not gay!  I'm just really scared of blacks!"   :hihi:

I'm behind on my tivo viewings.



That's the worst part, totally unreal. Wonder if his wife bought it?

Oh I totally agree he is a hypocrite if the allegations are true, which they probably are.  But I don't consider the man a racist for being scared of someone who happens to be black.  Are women sexist when they become a lil concerned when they see a shaggy looking guy coming up on them at night?  I call it situational awareness.  If a big guy came up towards me in a closed, small area, I'd be on alert for anything.  Ecspecially in a place that is know to have higher crime rates and from the profile, a higher risk.  Yes, Black people in America are convicted of more violent crimes than Whites - that's not racism that's fact. 

Is this Allen guy a fucking moron, probably, I don't know anything about him.  Is he the bigoted racist alot of people are making him out to be, probably not.

Uh, yeah ... that is racist. Ignorance doesn't excuse racism.


According to published reports, he approached the undercover while the UC was in a stall, then proceeded to offer money to blow the guy. Hell, I thought it was supposed to be the other way around ... but, what do I know.


In all actuality, it was a place where gay men go to "hook up".


That statement is about as racist as they come. I would provide a reason why, but I think it would be a waste of time ... if you can't even see the bigotry in that remark, your belisfs are well entrenched.


I think the facts speak for themselves.

Hahaha, that was as Republican as it gets.  I'm definitely having a good laugh at that one.   

Here's my impression of Bob Allen...... "Oh look at me I'm just strolling along in this public restroom.....wow there's a black guy, I better offer him $20 to let him put his Man club in my mouth or he might hurt me.  You never know about these black guys....I'm so scared.  Forget about running, I'll just exhaust him with man love."

If anything this sounds more like the incident in South Park where Mr. Garrison tries to get his father to molest him. 

I'm not claiming the guy isn't guilty.  I'm saying that if the situation occured the way he is telling it, that doesn't make him racist.




  Again. that is fact not racism.  You can't call someone a racist for pointing out statistical  facts.  You can call the justice and police systems that try and convict people biased or racist, but the numbers themselves are not racist.  Of course you're not gonna explain yourself on calling my comment racist because you can't.  It's easier just to call me a name.

Statistical facts?  OK...what percentage of the time, when a white person is near a black person, is the white guy assaulted in some way (beaten, mugged...whatever)?  Just because blacks are convicted of crimes at higher rates does not mean that you're likely to be assaulted in some way, by blacks, if you're white.  It's not as if 25% of white people who run across a black person get their asses kicked!  So, yes, seeing black people and thinking "I'm about to be a statistic" is racist.  Perhaps it's not KKK, burn-a-cross-in-your-yard racist, but it's still racist.  But I'm not as bothered by his inner thoughts...people of all colors have misconceptions about others, and it's a problem in this country.  But to actually say that?  A state Representative?  Come on! 

Of course...this is all based on the big "if."  "IF" it went down like he said...but in reality I think we all know that the idea that white people see black people and resort to random cock sucking to avoid a beat down is among the silliest explanations ever. 

My entire argument is based on the premis that a large man approached another man in a somewhat aggressive manner in a small room.  I believe this is bullshit as everyone else does.  But what I argue is if the situation occured as the idiot said, that doesn't make him racist.  Again, if a woman becomes cautious of a man in an alley by herself, does that make her sexist?  Any prudent person would say no.

I agree. It doesn't necessarily make him racist. Just gay. Regardless of why you feel intimidated by someone, the usual fight-or-flight reaction just isn't - ever - "I'll suck your cock!"

It's a weird world we live in where a politician faced with a scandal decides to skew for "bigot" over "fag."

Couldn't agree more

What stats?

"A subsequent United States Department of Justice report which surveyed homicide statistics between 1974 and 2004 stated that of the crimes surveyed, 52.1% of the offenders were Black, 45.9% were White, and 2% were Other Races. Of the victims in those same crimes, 51% were White, 46.9% were Black, and 2.1% were Other Races. The report further noted that, "most murders are intraracial", with 86% of White murders committed by Whites, and 94% of Black murders committed by Blacks.[13] It should be noted that the document does not provide any details concerning what races or ethnicities are included in the designations "White", "Black", or "Other Races"."

"In 2004 African Americans constituted roughly 13.4% of the general population,[23] yet, nearly half, 49%, of all murder victims in 2005 were African American."

"US Department of Justice survey stated that more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) are committed in the United States each year, of which about 20%, are inter-racial crimes.[24] According to research done by Larry Elder, a radio host and New York Times best-selling author, of the approximately 1,700,000 interracial crimes of violence each year, nearly 1,200,000 involved black-white crime. In 90% of those crimes, African American offenders attacked White American victims.[25][26] African Americans are more than 50 times more likely to commit violent crimes against White Americans than vice versa.[27]

According to United States Department of Justice document Criminal Victimization in the United States, in the United States in 2005, 37,460 White females were sexually assaulted or raped by a Black man, while between zero and ten Black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a White man. There were overall 111,590 white victims of rape/sexual assault in 2005. In those 111,590 cases the offender was White in 44.5 percent of the cases and Black in 33.6 percent of the cases.[28]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States? There is alot more where that came from

Wiki, that's great, lol-you?ve convinced me. The guy clearly was not a racist prick, just up-to-date on wikipedias latest edit by some two bit negrophobe.

Listen, why can't you just come out and admit that another one of your gang got exposed for being a complete and utter con-man? Another GOP closet case, hiding behind the usual masquerade of conservative family values. Ready to purchase 20 dollars of hot, hard, black cock at the local park, while his wife and daughter sat at home. What is it with you guys anyway? Always preaching the evils of homosexuality, then running off on the weekends to sniff crank off your gay escorts ass, or pulling a George Michael after a quick visit to the ATM.

Even better yet is the audacity  of the right wing, a crew of chest thumpers-macho types who are quick to call those who oppose their views cowards and traitors. But when faced with the imposing presence of a black man, offers twenty dollars and oral sex. LOL -What bravado! No wonder they don?t want to take action in Darfur!

The wiki article is linked to the DOJ stats.? But you already knew this and would try to ignore it rather than admit that I accurate in my claim that stats show African Americans to be much more likely to commit violent crimes than whites.?

No one here is denying this guy is a piece of shit.? The problem is that noone wants to attack him on his homosexuality for fear of being called a homophobe, so you call him a racist instead, which is bullshit.? Black people committ the majority of the crime in America and only count for 14% of the population.? That is not racist, that is fact.

Just because the media has brainwashed us to feel uneasy about making any kind of judgements or distinctions against people doesn't mean that they don't exist.  Don't push your PC bullshit on me (and no, this isn't addressed at you SLC).

Looks like Foley (D) (R) thinks his chat logs between his teenage male pages are private information and is refusing to cooperate with investigators.


Foley Refuses To Turn Computers Over To Investigators



The Florida Department of Law Enforcement announced today that its criminal investigation into alleged misconduct by Mark Foley is being hampered by the former Republican lawmaker's refusal to let investigators examine his congressional computers.

Foley ignited scandal and resigned from Congress last September after it was brought to light that he was having inappropriate conversations with young, male congressional pages on the Internet. Foley could face criminal charges if investigators find that he attempted to seduce any boy under the age of 18.

FDLE spokeswoman Heather Smith told reporters today that the department has "requested to review federally owned computers that Mr. Foley used during his time as a representative, but the U.S. House of Representatives... cited case law restrictions that prohibited them from releasing those computers.? Only Foley can grant law enforcement officials permission to search the computers in question.

Investigators are proceeding carefully in the case, as earlier this month a federal appeals court ruled that a raid of Democratic Louisiana Rep. William Jefferson's congressional office was unconstitutional.

Foley's attorney, David Roth, made no comment on Wednesday, citing the ongoing investigation. Foley, who entered rehab after his resignation, has remained out of the public eye.

I think you are full of shit, is what I think.

People are attacking him for both, it's pretty obvious. I don't care who commits more crime, black, white, purple, whatever. It's all part of your distraction mechanism- you talk about the evils of political correctness gone wild, so you don't have to admit another one of your crew got caught with their pants down.

Dude! Wikipedia is not a credible source. Anyone can go on there and add to it factual or not!
Universities do not allow quotes from Wikipedia.
 :no:

This guy is some no name loser from your neck of the woods. ?I couldn't give a fuck who he's trying to get to blow him. ?Just cause you're bored and want to create controvery to fuel your warped view doesn't mean everyone has to tow the line. ?Who the hell cares who he's banging, I mean you don't have anything against homosexuality do you? ?

You/your article called the guy a racist. ?I say it's bullshit. ?You can never address my points so you distort them and pigeonhole one microscopic point and detour off course. ?

Foley fucked young guys. ?You distorted that into he was a pedophile. ?No one gives a shit who some two-bit congressman from Florida is trying to fuck. ?If the best you can do against Republicans is pull some jackass from your town, then I'd say the Republicans are doing pretty good. ?But for the upteenth time, I don't affiliate with the Republicans. ?I disagree with them more often than I agree. ?I just dislike hateful leftist like yourself who are hell bent on finding fault but never offering solutions - at least solutions that require effort and sacrifice on your own part.

I know you're competing to be the dumbest poster on the board, but the link has direct citations and links to justice department files.  This isn't some user submitted commentary.  I chose Wiki beacuse it was a condensed source for all the info with citations.  You probably know this, but have just found another reason to increase your post count.  Go back to pretending you're a pretty princess or whatever you do.

Here's a solution: Quit fucking lying all the time, that goes for you too.



I know you hate to hear this, but I am registered independent.

Here is another solution: Don't pass laws to protect children from internet predators, then send sexually explicit emails to your teen pages.

Another: Don't sponsor laws that crack down on sex in public parks, then try and suck dick at your local bathroom stall.

Another: Don't preach to me, or anybody else about the evils of homosexuality, then run off and have a gay sex/crank marathon on the weekends.

Well if that ain't scraping the bottom of the barrel!
How petty of you! ?::)

Let's dissect one of your statistics - African Americans are more than 50 times more likely to commit violent crimes against White Americans than vice versa.

Apart from posting irresponsible statements like that, you also fuel the fires of biogtry.

Could it be possible that African Americans have been discriminated against for years in your country?
Could it be anything to with an education system where the minority are set up to fail?
Could it have anything to do with unequal socio-economic status?


Only, 3 questions at this stage - do wan't to overload your brain.


(Pharmo! I hope you aren't calling me a liar - that would be a very misinformed statement...)

I'm not. I take it under consideration that you are probably off your meds.



Yea, some no name loser who co-chairs Senator John McCain's presidential campaign in Florida.

Ha Ha Ha!? ::)? Well, that's ok then. Carry on....

Why the fuck is "Bob" in quatations? Like it's his nickname or professional alias. His name is Robert, therefore it's Bob. It's a given.

A brief lesson on this: Michael "Duff" McKagan : ok: Saul "Slash" Hudson : ok: Robert "Bob" Allen :no:

Simply put, to deny racism in this case is just insane.  DUDE, no one is attacking his sexual preference, only the hypocracy defined with what goes with the constant party preaching that homosexuality is a tool of the devil, except when they engage it.

As for being afraid of black people, come on.  Nevermind the cops see him riding around the park all day looking for schlong to taste!  This guy cracked when pressured and blamed the first opportunistic chance he could get.  So if this guy is in Congress and Condi Rice comes up to him, does he flip out and offer to filet her minge out of fear?  God for bid Obama get the presidency....this guy will be shitting bricks. 

It's what the local media calls him in Floriduh:

Here (http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/CAPITOLNEWS/70711023)

Here (http://tbdem.blogspot.com/2007/07/fl-32-robert-bob-allen-republican.html)

And here (http://www.topix.net/ncaa/florida-state/2007/07/rep-bob-allen-arrested-in-prostitution-case)



I think I have the quotation thing figured out though, let me give it a try...For instance, my opinion of your above post rhymes with the word "Crap."

Tampa bay Fox news of course has taken the story down:

Gone (http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=3966415&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1)

Doesn't that paragraph actually illustrate that a white person is nearly seven times more likely to be killed by another white person than by a black, hispanic, arabic or asian person? In conjunction with the black intraracial stats, doesn't the case for "it's not racism, it's just basic safety" unravel like a prolapsed sphincter? 

 

Again, this has been taken out of context and from Wikipedia!

Why even today, the Australian government has been criticised in the media for altering some infromation, posted in Wikipedia, about the 'Children Overboard' debarcle to make it less embarrassing for them.

I was also astounded to find that it had a definiton of dualism that was completely its opposite.

And by the way, rascism has a very sly way of raising its ugly head.

TRUST WIKIPEDIA (http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2007/01/30/long.trust.wikipedia.cnn)?

Oh really...   Well I didn't call you a democrat, I called you a leftist.  But for shits and grins, how many Republicans have you voted for if you're so independent?  Voting for Democrats your entire life makes you a Democrat.

trust someone who boasts his addiction to escapism?   The links are right there.  For a group of self-proclaimed intellectuals, you guys sure to step away from the real argument.

There you go LYING again. When did anybody claim to be an intellectual? Care to answer that?



I'd call you a lying fascist.

Yea, I'm the fascist  ::).  You're the one who wants to impose your view of the world on everyone else.  I'm the Libertarian, the one who says do whatever works for you, just don't burden me.  You're a habitual liar and continually distort what is said and happened.  I know I'm stealing the standard script from your book, but it's the truth.  Seriously, can you have a civil conversation with anyone who disagrees with you.  Granted I don't set a good example dealing with you or your cronies, but I can carry a normal conversation with other members without calling someone a liar, bigot or fascist.  You simply can't do that.

way to change the topic once a few posters ridiculed your racist comments/post.  ::)

IT WASN'T RACIST!  By no means am I saying that all black people are viloent or just becuase someone is black means they're gonna attack you.  It's unfair for you to categorize me that way.  All I said was that if this guy's claim was true, it wouldn't be out of fear and baseless claims.  the government statistics I provided backed this claim up.

Yes you are.

When did anybody claim to be an intellectual? Show me.

Oh c'mon.  I made the reference directly to your pal Fuckin' Crazy who claims to have been involved in every movement from 1960 to present.  If that doesn't fall under a defacto claim into intellectual elitism, I don't know what does.

Uh, yes, it would actually be out of fear.....that's what this whole thing stemmed from.  Bobby Allen was patrolling pecker in the public portapottys and he said he only offered the guy $20 to smoke his pole, because he was afraid...due to the fact he was black.  And he was also worried because he saw other black people outside.  That's why this whole thing is pathetic....if you seriously believe this guy, a politician who should very well know his way with words....he's pulling out every trump card he can attempt because he knows he's up shitcreek without a paddle.  Boom, blame the blacks because folks like you jump all over government statistics! Just like when you got brainwashed into thinking going into Iraq was what needed to be done because of all those weapons of mass destruction that we had proof-positive evidence on!

They probably can't be shown. The "intellectuals" we're the first to be carted off when the war began...

I all actuality, I wasn't born untill '61, I did some stuff in my youth, but where, on this board, have I claimed that I was involved in all these movements. it looks to me like you just proved SLC's statement.

 I've dealt with rightwing assholes for over 30 years; they all stink.



To answer the Pieman's Fatwa (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lw3Dab8xCyc&mode=related&search=), here is a cyber one at you dude.

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Right On!

You are kidding right?

You made the reference to "you guys". You also said "self-proclaimed intellectuals".

You are straight out of the Bill O handbook.



You should quit fucking lying man! Just stop it.

Pieman Fatwah? hahahahaha

soooo you're comparing black people to shaggy looking guy ?



relating crime statistics to a skin color ..... IS racism.

i'm not saying this stat is false. i'm telling you to go further in your analysis and you will understand WHY blacks are up in those stats and you will see it has nothing to do with the color of their skin ....

These stories are not surprising anymore. And how long will it be before he says he has a problem and needs help and meets with some group or something seeking their sympathy like they all do. Like Hollywood, like politics.  ::)

They should open a clinic just for republicans in need of help, the place would have a long waiting list. "Pray the gay away" at Serenity Hills in Tuscon.

LOL...oh yeah it's just the scary Republicans doing it or at least getting caught. Everyone who has every done something wrong are only Republicans. What nonsense! It goes hand in hand with the Liberal Hollywood crowd too.

By your own logic, I should start calling these guys rapists too, huh?

Mark Foley, Bob Allen, Jim McGreevey, Barney Frank(Yes him too) should all be wandering in the same rest stop together.? They all spoke of right and wrong and all claimed to be family and faith based men at one point and time.? All are wrong? if they do the opposite of what they have run on or what they have said they want to get rid of in government ie:corruption and alike.? The homosexuality part I don't care go crazy with each other, I'm not involved.? It's the truth that I do expect and these men have failed and should be scorned.? If you truely believe in an idiology or cause and are of honor even if I personally disagree it's your right and a. ok but to lie for political ambition or cause disgrace for those who believe in you then to hell with you.? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ?WTF..? You can be a Conservative or Liberal, Democrat or Republican and still be an idiot.? Too do right over wrong and to do what's best for yourself and your family/friends is what is most honorable.? Every politician I have ever talked to in any party talks about being of high morality and for the good of the people.? "I'm tough on crime and want to fix the education system, health care and create higher paying jobs." I've always responded the same way "Really? Because I was really against all that stuff but now you may have changed all that."? Almost every time the politician quickly turned and left red faced.? It could be from town clerk to US Senate same stuff different party.? Only 3 talked one on one like regular people.? They all laughed at my remark and took me aside and honestly said what's on your mind what do you expect from me or want changed?? ?1 Democrat and 2 Republicans.? I don't understand the bashing and complete contempt for someone who is in another political spectum than another.? Is it just the posters here that are at odds with each other or is it a complete generalization of a whole group?? That I would say is ignorant.? Most to all people are racists to a degree or maybe it's where you grew up or live now that makes you above that?? I try to take a person as they are but I'm not going to lie and say there is not a racists bone in my body.? Who can?? I've lived and in some tough areas so you live and learn.? Black, white, yellow whatever there is always going to be some lowlife.? But maybe it's just me?

The thing is: one must look at what the Republicans 'stand for', if you publicy identify with that party, then you are saying that you agree with everything they stand for.....

I just chose 'Republican' as an example. Insert Democrat, Liberal, Conservative if you like.

But I guess like all things - there is politics and then there is the person.

Nahhh I don't think all people are sheep, just the weak .  Just becuase your a Conservative or Liberal doesn't mean you believe in everything the party believes in.

No Political system is yet to be proved perfect.

Though, democracy is a work in progress.

I don't have complete contemp for conservatives. I have a couple of freinds that are Repubs, and we get along pretty well, unless they bring up their polititcs, then I'll shred 'em a new one. They know not to bring that stuff up around me.

Haggard seeks financial help

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Ted Haggard said he was offered places to live in Iowa and Missouri.

Colorado Springs, Colo. ? The Rev. Ted Haggard, who left the megachurch he founded after admitting to "sexual immorality," has asked supporters for financial assistance while he and his wife pursue their studies.

The former New Life Church pastor plans to seek a master's degree in counseling at the University of Phoenix while his wife studies psychology, he said in an e-mail sent this week to KRDO-TV in Colorado Springs.

The couple and two of their sons planned to move Oct. 1 to the Phoenix Dream Center, a faith-based halfway house in Phoenix, where Haggard and his wife would provide counseling, the e-mail said.

"It looks as though it will take two years for us to have adequate earning power again, so we are looking for people who will help us monthly for two years," the e-mail said. "During that time we will continue as full-time students, and then, when I graduate, we won't need outside support any longer." Haggard left the 10,000-member New Life Church late last year and resigned as head of the National Association of Evangelicals after a former male escort accused Haggard of paying him for sex.

Mike Ware, an overseer for New Life Church, told The Gazette of Colorado Springs on Friday that it was premature of Haggard to release the statement without first consulting the overseers.

A New Life spokesman did not immediately return a phone message left late Friday by The Associated Press.

Haggard received a salary of $115,000 for the 10 months he worked in 2006 and an $85,000 anniversary bonus before the scandal broke, The Gazette reported. Haggard's severance package included a year's salary of $138,000, and he collects royalties on his book titles, the newspaper reported.

El Paso County records show Haggard's home, which has been up for sale, has a market value of $715,051.

The poor guy, if he would just admit he was a homosexual meth addicted fraud, most of us would leave him alone.

I'm thinking of donating to his fund, got change for a penny?

Yeah but then all the homosexual meth addicts and frauds would be following him around.? Maybe that could be his real calling.? He wouldn't be getting any bonus at the end of the year either, except easy access to homosexual meth addicts.?

MSNBC is reporting that Larry Craig (R) Idaho has pleaded guilty and payed a fine for solicitation in a public mens room. Craig has denied the allegation, but apparently MSNBC has found the arrest record. More when the details are released.


Here it is:

The Nation -- Republican Idaho Senator Larry Craig is the latest Conflicted Conservative in Crisis to be caught with his pants down. According to Roll Call, Craig was arrested in June at a Minnesota airport by a plainclothes police officer investigating lewd conduct complaints in a men's public restroom. He has pleaded guilty to the charge.

 
Craig has faced pointed pointed rumors of same-sex affairs in the past. Craig responded to these allegations with strident denials. Now, as details of Craig's recent arrest emerge, he seems increasinly cock-eyed, so to speak.

To be sure, this story would not matter if Craig wasn't using his position to advance the Republican Party's officially homophobic agenda. In November, 2006, Craig flamboyantly endorsed Idaho's successful anti-gay constitutional amendment, HJR 2, which banned gay marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships in his state. Pam Spaulding has more background on Craig's anti-gay voting record here. It's also worth recalling Craig's 1999 interview with Tim Russert in which he mocked Bill Clinton as a "naughty boy" for his affair with Monica Lewinsky.


MORE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20070827/cm_thenation/45227277_1)

shouldn't this be its own thread?  :rofl: :rofl:

how many threads are we going to have about republican/conservative guys getting caught IM'ing little boys or trolling for hummers in the men's room.

i almost don't believe it - seriously, how many have there been in just this year?!?!?!

And, again, I don't care about the solicitation of prostitution or any of that, nearly as much as the hypocrisy. 

But Bill Clinton is a naughty boy.   :hihi:

Back to Haggard....who the fuck should he be counseling? He should be the one in the couch not the other way around.

Yeah but I'm sure he couldn't be on the couch alone.  He may need the comfort of a young man and a glass pipe.