Here Today... Gone To Hell!

...when John Lennon passed away (see what i did there?)

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Shine On, John.

Damn, I was sitting in my girlfriends apt that morning when the radio announced that he had died.

He lives ...

heard it on the TV this morning.

miss ya john!

never know whats so amazing about him.

i mean yeah it sucks he died, and how he died and i wouldnt wish that on anyone.

but i really think his work is over-rated.

His memory lives on in all of us...

I remember exactly where I was when it happened........

I remember my dad dropping me off at home to my mom after spending the weekend with him ( my parents were divorced) and my mom crying in front of the TV when it hit the news.

Not compared to the artists that were around back then, thanks for great music Lennon :peace:

I was only 6 at the time but I do remember this....very sad indeed. ?

The beatles were one of the first groups to turn rock music into art. Lennon took it in a different direction in his solo career- his music stood for something and it had meaning.

Keep idiotic posts like this to yourself Mr. I like Crashdiet. John Lennon was magic.

Giving my opinion that i think he and his work is over-rated and i still stand by it.

like i said, shame he died but i cant understand the big thing, i think its more him dieing thats kept him famous than his work. Just like kurt cobain.

^He was in The Beatles. That's enough to make anybody famous. Unless it's the other guy. You know, the first drummer.... yeah, him.

:hihi:
haha, yeah the beatles dont do much for me either.

i preffer other artists from around that time.

You're in a very small minority. Most people that don't care for his works, recognize his genius.

i dont see what he did. i dont see it.

led zeppelin took rock music to a whole different level

hendrix wrote some for its time amazing guitar work and used all those wah pedals n stuff

t-rex invented glam rock and the image factor with some fun  tunes

bowie well, he did a fuck load.

alice cooper invented this shock rock thing

sex pistols brought on strong change and agression helping make way for metal.

and so on. i just dont get what lennon did, that was so amazing.

Check out St. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.

The Beatles did just about everything you mention above, and did it earlier. They also wrote at least 50% of the greatest pop songs ever, possibly more.

RIP, John.  We miss you!!

Have you ever listened to a Beatles album properly?
I mean, really?

And everyone of those bands you mentioned will list John Lennon as one of their inspirations for doing what they do.  What the Beatles did for rock music during the early to mid 60's put the genre on the map in a whole new direction. 

Hendrix was covering Sgt. Pepper's before it was released.

Bowie was a huge fan of Lennon, eventually getting to work with him on Young Americans.

etc.....Lennon was part of the biggest movement in rock history.  Also look at the techniques that the Beatles along with George Martin toyed around with during Sgt. Pepper's and the White Album and Revolver.  Techniques that until that point were unheard of and have sense become mainstay staples in the recording process.  And come on.....Julia is one of the most amazing tunes of all time. 

yes, i liked some of the more bluesier rocky tracks but not much of it did anything for me.

perhaps they are just one of those bands no matter what one cant like.

^Listen to Revolution 9. That's some freaky stuff right there...

though, i will admit, i loved the song john did with members of the stones and hendrix experience.
 yer blues i think

I should have been more specific. That album is what defines the beginning epoch of modern Rock n Roll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper's_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band

personally i think the stones were more rock n roll than the beatles.

And The Who were more rock n' roll than the Stones!

true, especially live, but the stones made better music in my opinion :D

And don't forget about the damn Kinks!!! Between the era of Something Else up until Muswell Hillbillies they made some of the most amazing underated music that got shadowed by the Beatles and the Stones. 

they made some catchy power chord riffs i can definately agree!

Believe me, I won't! The Kinks and The Who fight it out for my favourite band of all time.


Right, that's it. ''Catchy power chord riffs''?! Examine the era mentioned above and you can have your karma back you cheeky swine. The Kinks were so much more than that. Ray and Dave together again, that'd be the real big reunion as far as I'm concerned.


To be honest, I don't actually own a Stones album that ain't a best of...

... I know.

PS: My post count... Best post count ever?

lol i wasnt ripping on the kinks with that post, you must have read it wrong.

why do i have a minus 5 karma lol.

Oh please!, you wouldn't praise a mathematician by saying that he was good at multiplication and could solve basic root problems.

Seriously though, the Kinks are the Village Green Preservation Society blows Sargeant Peppers out of the water.

As for your karma, you can have minus five for a few days. It will be a humbling experience, but embrace it and you will come out of the other side a better man.

never had a negative karma or warning in my time here.

so you give me -5 for complimenting a band.

brilliant, very professional.  : ok:

Okay, how about that? Now we can be polar opposites!

As for my being (or rather, not being) professional, I would bloody hope not (or rather, bloody hope so).

Come on now, get a sense of humour!

So. John Lennon. Very sad. White Album's better than Sargeant Peppers.

im all up for humour, but not when it effects ones reputation on the forums.

now if you posted a photo like this http://www.slapyo.com/wp-content/owned004.png , then i wouldnt mind LOL

But yes, if it makes all feel better. as a non beatles fan or john lennon fan, i really do dig yer blues!!! his voice works great on it.

With that I'm going to assume at best the only Kinks song you're familiar with is "You Really Got Me".

And hell yes Jim, The Village Green Preservation Society is perhaps to me the most underated album of all time.? It runs rings around Sgt. Peppers.? Great taste!

To add to the Kinks talk.......David Bowie did a really swell cover of "Waterloo Sunset" as a b-side to his Reality album.? He also joined Ray onstage for a live go at it......which is on video here....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THj9uQYy4SY


PS. mrlee.....you just loved Yoko Ono's awesome backing vocals in the Dirty Mac (Lennon's group in The Rolling Stone's Rock N Roll Circus) :rofl: jk man.

That is one of my favorite albums ...definitely my favorite Beatles album. The Animals is another kick ass band that is often over looked.

If we're youtubing it up now, this is one of my favourite Kinks song, and this performance, while a Ray solo, is one to give you chills... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06oipehWqUg.

Arthur or Village Green Preservation Society... I just can't make my mind up. But if I had to choose one, right now, it would probably be Village Green. A lot of it getting the slight edge is to do with Animal Farm being one of my favourite songs of all time.


I've not really heard much of the Animals, outside of the obvious, but I mean to. Ever since I properly discovered, and really got into, The Who (and I mean experiencing Tommy to The Who By Numbers, not an Ultimate Collection) a few years ago I've taken to looking to the past to find a lot of my music.

One of the biggest tragedies, or rather... Maybe tragedy is an overstatement, but the biggest shame about all these bands is their big songs. What I mean is, the youth of today... Which is me, actually... So I'd better rephrase. A lot of kids... No, that's way too condescending. Bollocks. A lot of them people think that the Kinks are about Days and You Really Got Me, The Who peaked with My Generation and The Animals one hit wondered with their House of the Rising Sun. But there is so much more. These bands had such a massive impact for so many more reasons.

But hey!, it's not everyone. Just a lot of people. I am interested in the Animals though, and now you've lit a fire in me. Where should I start?

It is all great; kick ass bluesy Rock n Roll. any of the first 4 are probably some of Burdens best work. Animals On Tour 65 has one of the best covers of "Boom Boom" I have ever heard.

Hehe, that one was a Dylan song :hihi:

A lot of the old bands big songs were covers, Elvis played gospel song. Nazareth covered Love Hurts etc
Beatles were very original and experimented a lot as time wen't by.

Like many classic folk ballads, the authorship of "The House of the Rising Sun" is uncertain. Folklorist Alan Lomax, author of the seminal 1941 songbook Our Singing Country, wrote that the melody was taken from a traditional English ballad and the lyrics written by a pair of Kentuckians named Georgia Turner and Bert Martin. Other scholars have proposed different explanations, although Lomax's is generally considered most plausible.

Dylan recorded his version before the Animals... neither wrote it, but the Animals certainly made it "theirs". 

I know that it wasn't written by them, that's why I said their House of the Rising Sun, as opposed to with House of the Rising Sun... I meant their version.

Honest!

Some more about the song:

It was recorded by Texas Alexander in the 1920s, then by a number of other artists including Leadbelly, Woody Guthrie, Josh White and later Nina Simeone. It was her version The Animals first heard. No one can claim rights to the song, meaning it can be recorded and sold royalty-free.

From Song Facts (http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=439)

You are right that a lot early rockers covered a lot of material ... especially old blues stuff.

It makes sense cause Dylan's early stuff was right in that vein

Yeah, The Animals version rocks. Also one song I seen done better than the original is Helter Skelter with Motley Crue :peace:
I honestly believe you :hihi:

I kinda get where your coming from, I'm not a huge Beatles fan (love John solo tho) but I think you're missing how revolutionary the man was. Before the Beatles it was rare for alot of artists to even write their own songs, that alone to me tells how important they were in changing that trend. And even though the beatles started out as what comparitively would be almost a boy band by todays standards, they were one of the firsts artists to take huge chances not only with their lyrics, but with their sound. I also try to recognise that while their music may not feel directly influential on myself or maybe some of the bands I listen to the beatles still have a influence somewhere. The artists you listed, Bowie, Hendrix, Alice Cooper, T-rex...I'm sure you can quote almost any of them as having said the beatles were a great influence on them. And by that any band influenced by Bowie, Hendrix, alice, etc. is somehow influenced bv the beatles as well.