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My dad was helping me move stuff back to the house I live in during the school year and mentioned this to me on the way back.

He said he was shocked at how many balding young people he saw on the campus. He also mentioned when he was in university it was considered extremely abnormal to see someone balding at that age.

Ive heard this same thing from a few people now and it has made me notice it too. what the hell is going on?

it's a sign for chinese democracy! think about it what kind of people are bald? chinese monks!!





that or maybe stress

Or steroid use

you mean actually shooting them or the the steroids they put in foods nowadays?

Or from wearing hats everyday of your lives. My daughter bf just recently stopped wearing his cap, as he was noticably thinning at the young age of 19.

I wouldn't doubt if all those fine additives and preservatives play a small role in it also, and don't forget for some its also genetics. Then there is Howie Mandel who chooses to be bald due to his OCD lol, just kidding I love him.

the whole wearing hats thing is bs.

people wear hats BECAUSE they are balding, not the other way around

Fluorescent lights also cause baldness-- hence why we're seeing it in women more than we used to.

I wear a hat.  Fuck it, I'm showing signs of balding.  If it gets bad, I'll start shaving my head.  I already use the suede-head look now.

Puh-leeease!  No, baldness is not a growing epidemic.

The fact is that society in general looks at hair-thinning and male-pattern baldness under a stronger microscope.  There are infomercials, commercials, etc. that push this shit all the time.  Rogaine, plugs, transplants, etc.

Baldness rates are the same...it's the number of folks who see it as a"problem" that has grown.   ;)

btw, I've got a pretty damn good quaff.  From what I understand, you guys can bank on your hair-line/thickness by your mom's father.  Women's thinning hair is genetically based as well.  Yes, there are things that can cause hair loss, but most of the time, if they aren't genetic, if you change your ways, it comes back.  If it's genetic, oh well.

Funny how baldness rates have risen as people in general have become more vain/image-conscious.   :)


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thats also been proven bullshit


but i wouldnt be so sure that it is not on the rise. It would actually make sense. it is well documented fact that kids are hitting puberty younger and younger, which would logically lead to balding younger.

After hearing this it kinda freaked me out and I really did start to notice tons of kids my age (21) who are obviously balding.

I know its vain but I love my hair and I would be devastated if it started to fall out :'(

^
"it is well documented fact that kids are hitting puberty younger and younger, which would logically lead to balding younger."

Yes, that's true, but do you know why?  Most scientists will tell you it's because no nation has ever had children this obese.  The much higher % of adipose in our childrens' bodies is fucking up their endocrine systems, and this has been directly correlated with earlier onset of puberty.

****, hey at least you can admit your vanity.   :)  You've recognized the problem, get to work now!

Trust me, when I was in school almost 2 decades ago, teens were displaying early thinning/male pattern baldness.
Don't worry.  Look at your relatives.  If most are bald or thinning, you best hope you were adopted or your mom was hittin' it with a plumber with a full head of hair!  :hihi:

Baldness hiding Combovers are no longer in Vogue  :hihi:

I started going bald like when I was 14 or thereabouts. So I decided to get rid of the whole thing a few years back. I must say it's the best decision I've made. If you're going bald, a tonsured head is the only way. Some people go for toupees, hair implants and the like and not only do they cost a fortune to maintain, they don't look real.

Besides a shaved head is cool and the chicks love it. :smoking:

ive had long hair for years, and plan to keep it long for years....

i hope bauldness doesnt get to me too soon!

stress of modern life doesn't help.

That was funny lol.

You mean like the Donald Trumps comb-over.

same here man! Ive had long hair for the last decade, I cant imagine having short hair let alone no hair!

Going by my genetics I should be fairly safe but you never know (knock on wood!)

Uh, no.

Your hair needs to be able to move freely, with a hat it can't.

Therefore it falls out.


Uh, no it's not, and no they don't.

I studied this in school last semester but I guess so far I've gotten lucky on the genetic train

My maternal Grandfather went bald when he was 20

My three brothers and I age 34-32 and me being 29 respectively stlll have thick heads of hair.

so how do u explain that one?


Did we just get lucky in the genetic lottery?

^

"your hair needs to move or else it falls out"





what? how do you figure that? wearing hats is a total myth.

my grandpa wore a hat everyday, all day for like 70 years till the day he died.

he died with a thick mop of grey hair

My Grandfather worked in a mine and wore a hardhat for 35+ years.

He's been bald ever since..

Plus, ask any hairdresser.

They'll tell you hair needs to be able to move freely, or it's going to fall out.

ya its hella complicated the gene can skip generations or not express itself even if you have it. of course there is no sure way to tell otherwise how would you explain cases of one brother having a full head of hair and the other being bald. there are tons of factors at work.

What about eskimos? They've been wearing hats for thousands of years. Winter athletes? Old dudes?

There's plenty of hair in those groups too.

Now, it may contribute but it's not a cause in itself.

honestly hair dressers dont know shit about the science of hair. google that shit and lemme know if you find anyone sayong hats cause baldness

No, they just go to school for years to study the science of hair ::)

they learn how to style it. dermatologists, who specialize in hair, study the science of it.

I apologize, Ive obviously offended you. who cares dont wear a hat then

Dematologists specialize in skin, genius ::)

What about dying hair?

I think a hair dresser is going to need to know the science behind hair to be able to do that..

Hair loss is genetic

Wearing hats and baldness is strictly coincidental and one of the oldest myths around.

It is absolutely not true though.

If hair needed to breath then how come u dont go bald on your chest or pubes?

I suppose all the emo kids dying their hair black have all graduated beauty school. cuz according to you they need to understand the science of hair for that ::)

whats your deal man. dont wear a hat if believe that strongly.

Dermatology (Greek δερμα, "skin" and λόγος, word, science) is a branch of medicine dealing with the skin and its appendages (hair, sweat glands, etc).

Uh, there's a difference between dying your hair using a box of hair dye you bought from a drug store, and going to a salon and having a PROFESSIONAL do it.

The dye you buy at a drug store is a far lower quality than what you'll get at a PROFESSIONAL salon ::)

Also, ever notice when somone dyes their own hair it usually ends up looking like shit?

That's because they aren't a professional, and have O idea what they're doing.

"Tight hats cause baldness."

While this may be a myth, hats do cause hair breakage and, to a lesser degree, split ends. Since hats are not washed as frequently as other clothing, they can also lead to scalp uncleanliness and possible Pityrosporum ovale contamination in men with naturally oily scalps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_loss (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_loss)

seriously man I apologize, im not being sarcastic, you obviously feel strongly about wearing hats. fine. dont wear them.

Yeah, and do people go to school for years and years to become a dermatologist so they can know how to cut and dye hair properly?

No.

They go to school to become a professional hairdresser ::)

I couldn't care less about hats, and no I don't wear them.

Why?

Because I think people with hair past their shoulders look moronic with a hat on.

I have no idea what you mean by this post.


ok. im not sure if this is supposed to be an insult towards me or what but i dont wear hats either.

I stopped wearing hats when my hair got long.

Why were so many men all the way up to the 60's bald?

Because they never left home without a fedora on.

Hats at all times = your head not breathing, thusly causing hair loss.

I dunno, the reason I started this topic is because both my parents and a few other adults have commented on how many balding young people they see nowadays. My parents were kids in the 60s and according to them (not saying they are right) you just didnt see kids balding so young in such high numbers.

My dad siad his friend was starting to bald in university and he was the only kid he ever saw at that age losing his hair. I look around my university and spot too many to count without even really looking

so just got me curious.....

Hey R, of all places to have to hear this, a HTGTH forum of all places, this has to be pretty tough to stomach...
your maternal grandma banged that plumber with the full head of hair!   :crying: "No Grandma, NOOOOO!!!"  :hihi:

Seriously, somebody else mentioned it.  Genetics are a lot more complicated than just "getting baldness through one maternal grandpa."  However, the more male relatives you as a man have that are bald...that would probably put you at a much higher risk of being bald.  But again, who gives a shit?  It doesn't make you less smart, strong, or prone to dying earlier.

Please allow me to put forth some of my own personal observations working in a hospital.:
Alcoholics (or those temporarily completely drunk) seem to survive accidents sober folks don't. 
Alcoholics (^  ^             ^                ^           ^      ) seem to have a lot more accidents than sober folks. :)
and finally, I've noticed a lot of alcoholics tend to have more hair on their heads (males) at later stages of their lives.
I just thought those were interesting...again, like your dad's trip to campus, completely anecdotal and unscientific. :)

   

I have 3 uncles all balding on my mom's side but my dad had a full hairline............ and my aunt *father's side* is a hair dresser and said my hair was from my dad's side of the family....... so Maybe I dodged the bald bullet.

I'm no stranger to a hat and I'm not bald. That's probably meaningless though because hat invulnerability is one of my super powers. Bond, eat your heart out.

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Ya my mom's brothers r all bald and so im I and im 25.  My brother has full head of hair and he get's it from my dad's side so I fell victim.

haha :rofl: the infamous plumber!

but ya I agree its a totally unscientific observation but its enough to make you wonder.....

Ah, yes it is and yes they do. I speak from experience. Since you don't, I don't think you should comment. :)

some girls reaaaaaaaaalllyyyyyyyyy like a shaved head.. some girls really like long hair on dudes.. i've been with both (girls that dig long hair and shaved head that is, since i've had both)

Come on now CheapJohn. U have never been with a girl in your life! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

donald, my name is Jon.. not john, and it doesn't make your joke funnier when you post like 10 of those rolf smileys  ;)


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  :P

Sorry CheapJon on the name

Come on now, that shit was funny.

Yeah, you've got a lot in common Donnie.

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My pleasure.

HAHA this coming from a guy who the last time he got pussy he crawled out of a litter box afterwards. :hihi:

stress, and shaving my head when I had hair caused my hair not to grow back.  It sucks but you can always get a wig  :smoking:

That was supposed to be our secret Donnie...call me.

Yeah, that's why hairplugs, transplants, and wigs are they business they are.....

Women everywhere flock to bald men ::)

Maybe it's like some kinky underground fetish thing.  ???

Why are you such an asshole. If the dude has no hair he cant help it. shaving your head is better than trying ridiculous hairstyles to try and hide it.

Jonny boy the pimp :hihi:

Don't cry.  Don't let the mean boys hurt your feelings.

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Im so distraught I just sent away for Bosley free brochure on hair loss  :rofl:

 :hihi: hey i just feel obligated to stand up for bald/balding people to keep my karma clean

shit i dont wanna lose my hair

Thank you ! yes it sucks cause I started looking in the mirror and noticing it was going so I got the clippers and started shaving.  Girls do like the bald head let me tell you I've gotten alot of compliments on the shaved look.  That's what I refer to it as the shaved look.

I still have a full head of hair, but I'm only 16.

I think Justin Hawkins managed the receding hair line quite well, until he started with the hair plugs in 2005 or so. Thankfully he looks normal again now though.

If i ever started going bald I would shave it.

That mange look where u got some hair here and there is awful. People look much better clean shaven bald.

I walked into the washroom at work a while ago and kind of caught a guy combing the little wispy hairs on the top of his head into a kind of combover thing.
the fringe of hair he still had was kind of long and curly and gross.

I just remember thinking, I cant believe this guy actually works to maintain this hairstyle! it would look a million times better jsut shaved

While I agree that someone shouldn't try and make their hair look like its not receding, I dont see whats wrong with having some baldness as long as you dont go to drastic measure to cover it up. I'm not a fan of a shaved head, and I dont foresee a time at which I'd want one.

Some people look horrible with their heads shaved though. They're probably better off just letting the baldness do its thing.

^

thats true. If I started going bald, I would probably shave it off then start hitting the gym heavily.

skinny guys with a shaved head look kinda creepy for some reason.

Wigs and shit are big business because:

1) Most guys are insecure and don't want the world to know they are balding.
2) Can't be bothered with the effort to keep their head shaved.
3) Have lumpy odd shaped heads and can't pull off the shaved look.

I'm not saying that ALL women loved shaved heads but there are enough out there that it's not a fetish thing at all.

Definitely. At least with the bigger and the muscle bound you just think, yeah, that makes sense.

Confidence comes from within.  The same dudes who are insecure with their thinning hair are going to be the same insecure guys with wigs or Rogaine,etc....it's just their insecurities will manifest themselves around other perceived deficiencies. 

I've noticed this with some of the new teachers that I've seen at school. A few guys in their early to mid 20's (20-25) are balding pretty rapidly. A math teacher here who was my baseball coach is almost completely bald and he's 24. I'm loosing it at a pretty quick pace too. :no:

I particularly enjoy the info-mercials calling baldness, "an epidemic!"   :rofl:  Man, I wonder how many people have died of baldness!   :hihi: 

ya the thing that has me most convinced about people balding younger is:

I would say that 90% of the people I know that are around 21-25, have dads with better heads of hair than them. I know people are gunna say that its just coincidence but it seems very odd that all these 50+ year olds generally seem to have more hair than todays young adults.

Im convinced something is causing this and personally blame all the crap they put in foods nowadays among other things.

Is it real or is it Memorex?  Can you prove the fathers aren't using unnatural means to sport their thick quaffs?  If you're in an upper-middle to high class area, that might be the case. 

I wouldn't fear the food additives.  I grew up eating a ton of garbage and I'm not balding at 34.

Have you seen your friend's grandfathers?  Ask for pics, it just might creep them out though.  :hihi:

This guy probably means the chemicals they put in foods, or this biotech crap.

And what exactly ARE they putting in our water?

You don't want to know..

I don't want you to tell me!  :rofl:

I'm talkin about the steroids and hormone shit they inject into animals and even fruits/vegetables to make them grow bigger and faster

since science is apparently getting raped in this thread i just want to say that hats DO NOT cause baldness...

male pattern baldness is caused by the effect of androgens on genetically predisposed hair follicles. So i guess that steroids in foods may be partly

responsible for this increase.

  :hihi: dont worry 99% of the poeple in this thread are smart enough to understand that

 :nervous:  Oh no!  I'm having flashbacks to Polluxlm's posting that the first fluoridated water was used by the Nazis on the Warsaw ghettos or something like that!  :hihi:

Chlorine to kill dangerous bacteria, and fluoride to make sure we Americans don't end up with British teeth! (that's a joke btw, think Austin Powers)  :peace:

btw, I don't think fruits and vegetables have steroids or hormones...perhaps you meant the harmless use of genetically altered fruits/veggies?

I don't see why food needs to be genetically altered.

Well I have the same hair as my dad, super thick and straight, and I know for a fact that his is all natural. Hes the least vain human being Ive ever met and his brother and dad both have the exact same hair.

He is 60 years old and his hair is 100X better than many of my friends hair. I know what your saying though and it is a possibility with some of the other dads.

Also about the fruits/vegetables, I was just guessing. Im glad to hear they arent messing with them too much cuz they make up about 75% of my diet.

well, if it lets you plant a field that uses 90% less pesticides without losing your harvest, that's pretty damn cool.  By slightly altering the genetic makeup, you can increase resistance to pests, plant diseases, and make the taste/size even better.  this can keep prices down...it really is win-win.

a lot of times when I hear the whole, "God didn't want us eating genetically altered food" story, I reply with the fact I wasn't meant to read because I have to wear corrective lenses.  :hihi:

Got milk? How about, got cancer? Got a sick prostate and you're looking for answers?

Sure, for them it is a win win. Where do you think all this cancer is coming from? What is it now, 1 in 2 that gets it? So not only do you increase sales, but by making your customers sick you can stand down the line offering 300k "treatments".

I'm all for technological improvements, but I think we're moving a little fast here.


Like I said, the nazi prison camps. That should raise a big red flag.

Not to mention the 700 million Europeans going "what the fuck are you guys doing over there?".

You know what Fluoride is? Aluminum waste. Keeps you docile.

I like to keep things natural.

Call me a crazy California boy, but I don't think it's such a crazy notion.

Next we'll be ditching food altogether and living off pills.

Soilent Green is people!!!!!!!!!!!!   :hihi:

Hey man, all-natural is great, but rather expensive.  How much are you willing to pay in a mark-up to get organic?

...and polluxlm, how are the dairy farmers profiting off of prostate cancer treatments?  Do you have area dairy farmers performing chemo and radiation treatments?   ???

we live in a developed world where people are living longer lives.  Guess what, if every person lives long enough, they will get cancer.  We are seeing rising cancer rates due to improved life expectancy thanks to modern medicine.  Granted, the obesity epidemic isn't bringing cancer numbers down, in fact it's doing the opposite. 

That said, I agree that going organic, all-natural, and avoiding processed foods is a good thing...it's just not a realistic alternative for a lot of folks out there.  When folks are scraping by financially, they see a 75 cent apple sitting next to an 89 cent box of Little Debbie's snack cakes.  One of them can be part of a kid's lunch for a whole week, the other for just one day.  :(

I think if we followed gods will (according to these religious fanatics) we wouldnt have advanced very far......

.....maybe thats not a bad thing ???

No, but the guy in the grey suit writing the check for Danone does.

So what, you get old? You should die from wear n' tear, not mutations.

The 'health' industry is massive. So massive that if people stopped getting sick you'd be out of a job tomorrow. Same goes with the arms industry. The entire economy is built on platforms with an expected output. One being an increasing number of deaths and destruction, each fiscal year. 

When you have a 'free' system of enterprise in a global structure, you in the long run promote psychopaths to the leading positions. Think about it, who is a board of old, rich men going to appoint? The nice guy that wants to help the customer, or the asshole with black numbers on dividend day?

Lies, deceit, propaganda, war... prominent attributes of modern politics.  These guys love to prey on our weaknesses. Not so much because they're 'evil', but because it works. Suffering and fear are simply more powerful incentives for you to give up your money than any peace time enterprise could ever offer. If we don't waste our money, this surplus of the economy, we would eventually amass enough resources to overthrow the current owners of the economy. In the words of Mr. Jensen; ebb and flow

Kinda sad. As you say it could be used to do so much good.

Sorry about going into all of this. At this point the thread demanded it.

Hair today, Gone Tomorrow. :hihi:

Fuckin a!  Genius Genesis!   :beer:  Normally I come up with the corny-ass puns!  Loved it!   :hihi:

His corn isn't genetically altered!  ;D

 :hihi:  Niiiice.


btw, polluxlm, you never disappoint!  Don't apologize!  While I don't always agree with you, in this thread included, you are consistently thought-provoking.   :beer:

Just like 99% are smart enough to realize that people don't go to school for years and years to become a dermatologist so they can cut and colour hair ::)

? are you...speaking...words?

Im really not sure what your trying to say, but after reading your posts over you dont seem to understand the difference between a hair stylist/dresser and a dermatologist/specialist

hair dresser/stylist: they go to beauty school where they learn shit like how to cut and style hair, what hair styles work with certain face shapes, the most fashionable hairstyles of todays youth etc etc....bullshit like that

dermatologists/specialists: they go to medical school where they learn about the medical/scientific side of hair like what is hair, what makes hair grow, scalp conditions, what causes MPB, methods of treating hair loss, conditions that cause hair loss etc etc

I personally trust the dermatologists/specialists when they say hats don't cause hair loss over the ditsy blond that cuts my hair

EDIT: but fuck it let this thread die please its been derailed

The skin is the largest organ of the body and is the most visible. Although many skin diseases are isolated, some are manifestations of internal disease. Hence, a dermatologist is schooled in aspects of surgery, rheumatology (many rheumatic diseases can feature skin symptoms and signs), immunology, neurology (the "neurocuteaneous syndromes", such as neurofibromatosis and tuberous sclerosis), infectious diseases and endocrinology. The study of genetics is also becoming increasingly important.

Techniques available to a dermatologic surgeon include lasers, traditional scalpel surgery, electrosurgery, cryosurgery, photodynamic therapy, liposuction, blepharoplasty (cosmetic eyelid surgery), minimally-invasive facelift surgery (e.g., the S-lift), and a variety of topical and injectable agents such as dermal fillers including fat transfer and hyaluronic acid. Some specially trained dermatologic surgeons perform Mohs surgery, which can be an effective method for the treatment of recurrent, indistinct, or difficult skin cancers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatology)

Yeah, they're clearly all about hair..

great they work with skin too. thats pretty obvious whats your point?

I agree with that hat thing. Case in point, all the jewish men that wear yarmulkes seem to develop bald spots on their crown.