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Title: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on February 03, 2020, 08:37:59 AM
TRIP OUT

https://www.gunsnroses.com/tour


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Bucketofguns on February 03, 2020, 08:43:15 AM
Summer stadium tour is happening. Has to mean a new album as they last only did arenas. Also, no opening bands announced yet, though GNR always has the best openers.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sofine11 on February 03, 2020, 09:34:10 AM
NITL 2.0. How exciting.  ::)


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on February 03, 2020, 09:41:01 AM
Figures I'm on vacation the week they are here.

I saw NITL twice, so now I selfishly don't want a new album.  Somehow, I think I'm safe.

That said, absent the vacay conflict, I would be there.  Even for the same old show.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Spirit on February 03, 2020, 09:55:08 AM
NITL 2.0. How exciting.  ::)

Europe and North America is marketed as "The Next Chapter".

In regards to new music it sounds promising imo.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4L on February 03, 2020, 09:59:02 AM
Hopefully I can get Pit tix for the Seattle show.  My best bet would be Citi presale.. from past experiences.. hopefully Nightrain has some.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on February 03, 2020, 10:05:19 AM
Summer stadium tour is happening. Has to mean a new album as they last only did arenas. Also, no opening bands announced yet, though GNR always has the best openers.

In a normal thinking world, yes

But considering they are starting the tour in a month and forgot how to record an album - not holding my breath for anything other another tour


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Mike McKagan on February 03, 2020, 10:07:43 AM
Question: I'm definitely going to the Indy show (only an hour from my house AND the triumphant return of Axl/Slash/Duff together to Indiana). I haven't bought any tix since the early NITL show in Nashville, so I'm not sure what the best option is for good seats. Does the Nightrain presale seem to be offering the best seats at different price levels, or is it better to wait for the general public sale?

I've been waiting on GN'R in Indiana ever since I missed Noblesville in '91!

PS--I once published a short story about a fictionalized version of that '91 concert, if anyone's interested:

http://www.wildviolet.net/2013/10/21/achilles-last-stand/#.Xjg3H1NKjOQ


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on February 03, 2020, 10:11:13 AM
I don’t know how they can do another stadium tour. Bobby Dodd is huge when you take into account the floor seating they will create. They had dropped to arenas on the last go around. They also announced this way late with people spending money on the Crue/Leppard tour. Maybe they really are putting out a new album.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on February 03, 2020, 10:12:45 AM
Question: I'm definitely going to the Indy show (only an hour from my house AND Axl's triumphant return to Indiana). I haven't bought any tix since the early NITL show in Nashville, so I'm not sure what the best option is for good seats. Does the Nightrain presale seem to be offering the best seats at different price levels, or is it better to wait for the general public sale?

I've been waiting on GN'R in Indiana ever since I missed Noblesville in '91!

PS--I once published a short story about a fictionalized version of that '91 concert, if anyone's interested:

http://www.wildviolet.net/2013/10/21/achilles-last-stand/#.Xjg3H1NKjOQ


I’m in Tennessee and also looking at that show since it’s a Friday and the Atlanta show is in the middle of the week. I suspect they’ll have a pit in the front and then chairs on the stadium floor like their other shows.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: russkwtx on February 03, 2020, 10:28:47 AM
Love the band and all that but I am hesitant to shell out hundreds of dollars to hear the same show and same songs. Tix go on sale this week so it's really a leap of faith--you have to buy tix and hope there is new music. But if you buy now there might not be. Quite the dilemma.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Executioner on February 03, 2020, 10:31:21 AM
Either a new album or Izzy is back on board other than that they will struggle to sell these stadium gigs.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sofine11 on February 03, 2020, 10:34:41 AM
Either a new album or Izzy is back on board other than that they will struggle to sell these stadium gigs.

They will absolutely struggle to sell these dates. A new album announcement would have re-branded things in a real way, not these coy "THE NEXT CHAPTER" "LARGER THAN LIFE" taglines that are essentially just a bunch of hot air that don't mean a thing.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on February 03, 2020, 11:03:18 AM
Love the band and all that but I am hesitant to shell out hundreds of dollars to hear the same show and same songs. Tix go on sale this week so it's really a leap of faith--you have to buy tix and hope there is new music. But if you buy now there might not be. Quite the dilemma.

There is the challenge crystallized and I suspect many others will debate the same exact thing.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: JAEBALL on February 03, 2020, 11:08:05 AM
Either a new album or Izzy is back on board other than that they will struggle to sell these stadium gigs.

Lol ...

The amount of people who won’t go because Izzy is not there totals about 14.

I love reading the complaints about new tour dates...


I’m a New Yorker but I think I’m going to go to Fenway for this ... just sounds so cool to say seeing Guns N’ Roses at Fenway Park.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Bodhi on February 03, 2020, 11:21:58 AM
Either a new album or Izzy is back on board other than that they will struggle to sell these stadium gigs.

They will absolutely struggle to sell these dates. A new album announcement would have re-branded things in a real way, not these coy "THE NEXT CHAPTER" "LARGER THAN LIFE" taglines that are essentially just a bunch of hot air that don't mean a thing.

Doubtful,the large crowds that go to these stadium shows skew way more to casual fans than diehards on message boards.  They  take bathroom breaks during songs they don’t know and have no idea who Izzy Stradlin is. They don’t care about new music.  

The NITL tour was the third highest grossing tour in history, how are we still talking about Izzy’s drawing power?  Is there even one person on this board who skipped the last tour because Izzy wasn’t there ?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rebelhipi on February 03, 2020, 11:47:55 AM
Hopefully I can get Pit tix for the Seattle show.  My best bet would be Citi presale.. from past experiences.. hopefully Nightrain has some.
I always managed to get pit tickets through nightrain. This is berlin, tallinn 2018 and prague 2020.

Im not too familiar about how american markets work tho.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: LunsJail on February 03, 2020, 11:48:16 AM
Either a new album or Izzy is back on board other than that they will struggle to sell these stadium gigs.

They will absolutely struggle to sell these dates. A new album announcement would have re-branded things in a real way, not these coy "THE NEXT CHAPTER" "LARGER THAN LIFE" taglines that are essentially just a bunch of hot air that don't mean a thing.

I don't think they'll sell out but promoters have obviously decided that they'll sell enough tickets to turn a profit.  That being said, they are going to eventually find the saturation point for this.  A new album won't make that much difference either.  Show me one band from the 80's or 90's where crowds are filling up stadiums to hear shit from the new album.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on February 03, 2020, 11:48:23 AM
I'm excited...and truly bummed.

They are in the Northeast (Metlife and Fenway) the week I'm supposed to be in Colorado.  I'm flying out of JFK the day before they play Metlife.

Ah well.....maybe I can convince my wife we need to head down to Philly in early July.....


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on February 03, 2020, 12:43:36 PM
I share these sentiments about Izzy's supposed affect on ticket sales.  We heard that same shit about Adler.  We were all at those shows.  How may folks did any of you talk to about Izzy Stradlin or Steven Adler?

Can they sell stadiums out this time around?  Dunno.  But it should not be lost on folks that they are only in major cities.  Philly, Chicago, NY/NJ, Boston.  Lot of folks there.

Also, all bands do internal research.  My guess is the the numbers all but guarantee that they can draw more than arena sized crowds.  Perhaps 100% capacity stadiums, but enough extra seats that they would be leaving money on the table if they stuck to arenas.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4L on February 03, 2020, 12:56:19 PM
I share these sentiments about Izzy's supposed affect on ticket sales.  We heard that same shit about Adler.  We were all at those shows.  How may folks did any of you talk to about Izzy Stradlin or Steven Adler?

Can they sell stadiums out this time around?  Dunno.  But it should not be lost on folks that they are only in major cities.  Philly, Chicago, NY/NJ, Boston.  Lot of folks there.

Also, all bands do internal research.  My guess is the the numbers all but guarantee that they can draw more than arena sized crowds.  Perhaps 100% capacity stadiums, but enough extra seats that they would be leaving money on the table if they stuck to arenas.


Plus it’s during the Summer time which I think is smart.  I know here in the Pacific Northwest we only get two months of Summer ( July & August).  :hihi:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Executioner on February 03, 2020, 01:09:39 PM
I get that new music doesn't make a huge difference to the casual fan or who is playing on stage most people probably only know Axl and Slash but I just think it's time for them to move on creatively and put out new music ,I wouldn't expect them to play a lot of songs from it when doing a stadium tour maybe 3 or 4 which would really inject a new energy into the show .


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on February 03, 2020, 01:25:42 PM
I share these sentiments about Izzy's supposed affect on ticket sales.  We heard that same shit about Adler.  We were all at those shows.  How may folks did any of you talk to about Izzy Stradlin or Steven Adler?

Can they sell stadiums out this time around?  Dunno.  But it should not be lost on folks that they are only in major cities.  Philly, Chicago, NY/NJ, Boston.  Lot of folks there.

Also, all bands do internal research.  My guess is the the numbers all but guarantee that they can draw more than arena sized crowds.  Perhaps 100% capacity stadiums, but enough extra seats that they would be leaving money on the table if they stuck to arenas.

You make a really good point about internal research but I question the timing of the research versus the announcement. This is a massive year for concerts and one of the biggest I’ve seen in some time.

You’ve got legends like Elton John, Roger waters and Rod Stewart; reunions like MCR and Rage; and stadiums like Crue/Leppard, Hagar/etc and Greenday/etc.

I think they announced too late. On a personal note, I’m buying tickets for their show on presale tomorrow as well as Chris Stapleton tickets. I’m lucky to be able to cover that but I doubt my finances can stretch much further. I’ve got tickets for five other shows between April and August and maybe festivals in the fall.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on February 03, 2020, 01:28:21 PM

I get that new music doesn't make a huge difference to the casual fan or who is playing on stage most people probably only know Axl and Slash but I just think it's time for them to move on creatively and put out new music ,I wouldn't expect them to play a lot of songs from it when doing a stadium tour maybe 3 or 4 which would really inject a new energy into the show .


At bare minimum, the lead single would be on the radio and social media.  It would be known.

I don't know how long you can rely on the "new" song in your setlist simply being a 29 year old tune that just hasn't been played live in 28 years.

Unless that's how you want to roll, which is fine.  But then you are The Eagles.  You are Buffet.  That's who you are now.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sofine11 on February 03, 2020, 02:15:25 PM

I get that new music doesn't make a huge difference to the casual fan or who is playing on stage most people probably only know Axl and Slash but I just think it's time for them to move on creatively and put out new music ,I wouldn't expect them to play a lot of songs from it when doing a stadium tour maybe 3 or 4 which would really inject a new energy into the show .


At bare minimum, the lead single would be on the radio and social media.  It would be known.

I don't know how long you can rely on the "new" song in your setlist simply being a 29 year old tune that just hasn't been played live in 28 years.

Unless that's how you want to roll, which is fine.  But then you are The Eagles.  You are Buffet.  That's who you are now.

It's awfully depressing to see GNR, a band with so much creative potential, slip into that category so willingly.  :'(

C'mon fellas, don't "go quietly into that good night".


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on February 03, 2020, 02:19:01 PM

It's awfully depressing to see GNR, a band with so much creative potential, slip into that category so willingly.  :'(

C'mon fellas, don't "go quietly into that good night".


Is it that big a shock though?

They are a legacy band at this point, really.  And what percentage of people in those stadiums this year are coming for anything but songs from their youth?  It's small.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sofine11 on February 03, 2020, 02:22:57 PM

It's awfully depressing to see GNR, a band with so much creative potential, slip into that category so willingly.  :'(

C'mon fellas, don't "go quietly into that good night".


Is it that big a shock though?

They are a legacy band at this point, really.  And what percentage of people in those stadiums this year are coming for anything but songs from their youth?  It's small.

You're spot on, but I think with GNR fans like you and I who have been following the band for a long time, a follow up to Chinese Democracy, especially one with Slash and Duff, falls into the category of "unfinished business".  It's never going to feel entirely "right" until that's delivered upon.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 03, 2020, 02:23:15 PM
Once again, what is the magic number of new songs that need to be in the setlist for you to stop posting the same old comments?

I just wanna see what kind of expectations you have. I'm curious.

So just post a number or a % of songs in the setlist. Thanks!




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sofine11 on February 03, 2020, 02:27:50 PM
Once again, what is the magic number of new songs that need to be in the setlist for you to stop posting the same old comments?

I just wanna see what kind of expectations you have. I'm curious.

So just post a number or a % of songs in the setlist. Thanks!




/jarmo


I think it more has to do with re-branding, and pushing things forward, as in knowing there's new music to support with these shows.  You're right, they don't really need to shake things up with the sets all that much, because a good 90% of the crowd is there for the hits.  That's just how it is and it's fine.  But with Slash and Duff back in the fold, who doesn't want to know what new music from them would sound like?  

Keep in mind, the last time "new" music was put out the singles were You Could Be Mine, Don't Cry, November Rain, etc. It's a big deal for even 1 or 2 new songs from the current lineup to be in there somewhere.  This isn't Aerosmith or The Stones who have put out several new albums since the early 90s.  For GNR, new music would be a huge moment.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Mike McKagan on February 03, 2020, 02:31:51 PM
So does anyone know if the Nightrain presale is worth the money/hassle these days, or have you found that buying tix when they go on sale to the general public still gets you good seats? (I'm not interested in GA floor tickets, but want to get some decent seats near-ish to the stage.)


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kunzerd on February 03, 2020, 02:35:02 PM
So does anyone know if the Nightrain presale is worth the money/hassle these days, or have you found that buying tix when they go on sale to the general public still gets you good seats? (I'm not interested in GA floor tickets, but want to get some decent seats near-ish to the stage.)

I typically just buy tickets off of stub hub, I know I end up paying more but I’d rather pick my seat than just get thrown into a lottery.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on February 03, 2020, 02:44:04 PM
I won't do presale again.  I've found you get better seats in your price range by waiting for the regular sale.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on February 03, 2020, 02:57:57 PM

Once again, what is the magic number of new songs that need to be in the setlist for you to stop posting the same old comments?

I just wanna see what kind of expectations you have. I'm curious.

So just post a number or a % of songs in the setlist. Thanks!


It's not about a number of songs.  It's about defining what you are.

DOOR #1- NEW ALBUM :
Guns N' Roses is still a viable, creative and relevant artistic entity still interested in doing new things.  Their shows will continue to reflect a new direction.

DOOR #2- NO NEW ALBUM:
Guns N' Roses is no longer a viable, creative or relevant artistic entity.  They see no point in doing new things.  They know they have enough of a existing fanbase that will gladly come out and pay $BIG DOLLAZ$ to see their Greatest Hits Revue show every few year, comprised of a catalog that is 29 years old (or 12 depending or how much you want to split hairs), and will only get older.

Most people's problem with you, is that you want it both ways.  They can consistently give us Door #2, but you will be god damned if you will admit that out loud.  And will continue to chastise anyone that doubts the reality Door #1 is coming anytime soon...all seemingly based on that rock solid premise, "hey, you never know".

FULL DISCLOSURE : I don't ever expect anything but Door #2 the rest of their days.  Which I think is fine.  Yet I also refuse to concede it's some big crime to say what they are out loud.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 03, 2020, 02:58:57 PM
I think it more has to do with re-branding, and pushing things forward, as in knowing there's new music to support with these shows.  You're right, they don't really need to shake things up with the sets all that much, because a good 90% of the crowd is there for the hits.  That's just how it is and it's fine.  But with Slash and Duff back in the fold, who doesn't want to know what new music from them would sound like?  

Keep in mind, the last time "new" music was put out the singles were You Could Be Mine, Don't Cry, November Rain, etc. It's a big deal for even 1 or 2 new songs from the current lineup to be in there somewhere.  This isn't Aerosmith or The Stones who have put out several new albums since the early 90s.  For GNR, new music would be a huge moment.


Aha. So you just want new music released whether or not any of them are played live is another matter.

So new music released makes it ok to buy tickets to a show. And the number of those new songs being included in the setlist is secondary.....





/jarmo




Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on February 03, 2020, 03:01:46 PM

So new music released makes it ok to buy tickets to a show. And the number of those new songs being included in the setlist is secondary.....


99.7% of us are buying tickets regardless.  A significantly lesser percentage can be honest about what they are buying tickets for.

GNR rakes it either way.  We have fun at the shows.  Everyone wins.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 03, 2020, 03:02:03 PM
It's not about a number of songs.  It's about defining what you are.

One of the biggest hard rock bands in history?


DOOR #1- NEW ALBUM :
Guns N' Roses is still a viable, creative and relevant artistic entity still interested in doing new things.  Their shows will continue to reflect a new direction.

DOOR #2- NO NEW ALBUM:
Guns N' Roses is no longer a viable, creative or relevant artistic entity.  They see no point in doing new things.  They know they have enough of a existing fanbase that will gladly come out and pay $BIG DOLLAZ$ to see their Greatest Hits Revue show every few year, comprised of a catalog that is 29 years old (or 12 depending or how much you want to split hairs), and will only get older.

Most people's problem with you, is that you want it both ways.  They can consistently give us Door #2, but you will be god damned if you will admit that out loud.  And will continue to chastise anyone that doubts the reality Door #1 is coming anytime soon...all seemingly based on that rock solid premise, "hey, you never know".

FULL DISCLOSURE : I don't ever expect anything but Door #2 the rest of their days.  Which I think is fine.  Yet I also refuse to concede it's some big crime to say what they are out loud.


DOOR #3: Guns N' Roses releases new music when they want and not according to other people's schedules, and people still wanna go see them because they love the music that's been released so far.

Yes, I still don't believe that GN'R will never release new music. Unlike you.







/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Mike McKagan on February 03, 2020, 03:03:23 PM
I won't do presale again.  I've found you get better seats in your price range by waiting for the regular sale.

Awesome--that's exactly the info I was looking for. I can't imagine they'll be selling out Lucas Oil on day one, and this way I don't have to tack 40 bucks onto the price for re-upping my Nightrain membership. Thanks!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on February 03, 2020, 03:09:50 PM

DOOR #3: Guns N' Roses releases new music when they want and not according to other people's schedules, and people still wanna go see them because they love the music that's been released so far.

Yes, I still don't believe that GN'R will never release new music. Unlike you.


I also lack your vested interest to stay on message and not dare rock the boat.  Which I get.  But can't discount either.

I don't claim to read minds, but I would posit that absent some inside info you are not going to share (and I get that that too, to be clear) you probably tend to lean more towards what we are all saying than you you dare let on.

That being that GNR shows are fun, we should all go and enjoy them, and while it would be cool to hear new stuff from the guys, it's not terribly likely.

It's cool, man. 


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sofine11 on February 03, 2020, 03:12:12 PM
I think it more has to do with re-branding, and pushing things forward, as in knowing there's new music to support with these shows.  You're right, they don't really need to shake things up with the sets all that much, because a good 90% of the crowd is there for the hits.  That's just how it is and it's fine.  But with Slash and Duff back in the fold, who doesn't want to know what new music from them would sound like?  

Keep in mind, the last time "new" music was put out the singles were You Could Be Mine, Don't Cry, November Rain, etc. It's a big deal for even 1 or 2 new songs from the current lineup to be in there somewhere.  This isn't Aerosmith or The Stones who have put out several new albums since the early 90s.  For GNR, new music would be a huge moment.


Aha. So you just want new music released whether or not any of them are played live is another matter.

So new music released makes it ok to buy tickets to a show. And the number of those new songs being included in the setlist is secondary.....





/jarmo




For a show I've paid a pretty penny for 3 times already since 2016?  You betcha.  I'm a GNR fan.  Not some passive rock fan who's there to drunkenly scream the chorus to Paradise City.  

I'd love to hear new music, and for the tour to support that.  You act like that's somehow odd. And it's not exactly as though we've been somehow spoiled on that front either.  1 new album in nearly 30 years and all that, and way too many teases regarding more over the past 10 years.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rebelhipi on February 03, 2020, 03:14:47 PM
Once again, what is the magic number of new songs that need to be in the setlist for you to stop posting the same old comments?

I just wanna see what kind of expectations you have. I'm curious.

So just post a number or a % of songs in the setlist. Thanks!




/jarmo


7 new songs per show. if they play the same songs twice in a row it dosent count.

Honestly, everytime ive seen them i got atleast 1 new song ive never seen them do before. Personally i have no complaints.
But. its true that a new album would make us all very happy obviously.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on February 03, 2020, 03:15:37 PM
I won't do presale again.  I've found you get better seats in your price range by waiting for the regular sale.

So you're right and wrong. A band presale is limited. But for all other presales - citibank, American express, etc - they open up ALL the seats, so it's quite possible that by the time you try to get decent seats on Friday they will be gone.

This all changed this year from what I can tell (as someone who has been buying tickets for a loooong time). For example, Sturgill Simpson and Elton John tickets went on sale where I live and sold out in presales. By the time general sales started the dickhead scalpers were reselling them on ticketmaster and stubhub.

I do my best to get a presale code. Check out reddit or if you have a citibank card, then use that. Citibank presale is tomorrow at noon.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on February 03, 2020, 03:17:52 PM

7 new songs per show. if they play the same songs twice in a row it dosent count.

Honestly, everytime ive seen them i got atleast 1 new song ive never seen them do before. Personally i have no complaints.
But. its true that a new album would make us all very happy obviously.


I'd have been pumped if I was at the show they dug out 'Locomotive'.  In my top 10 all time GNR tunes.

My second NITL show, I got 'There Was A Time'.  Hands down my favorite CD tune.  Life was good.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Executioner on February 03, 2020, 03:29:26 PM
Once again, what is the magic number of new songs that need to be in the setlist for you to stop posting the same old comments?

I just wanna see what kind of expectations you have. I'm curious.

So just post a number or a % of songs in the setlist. Thanks!
4 to 5 is a no brainer they play up to 9 covers a night which isn't what the fans wanna hear thing is GnR have unfinished business they only had 4 original albums 3 with Slash and Duff their is an Appetite for new music unlike a lot of other bands from the 80s who put out over a dozen albums in their career so they just stay on the nostalgia trip as the interest isn't there either from the record company or the hardcore fanbase.



/jarmo



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Tute on February 03, 2020, 03:35:28 PM

7 songs

Once again, what is the magic number of new songs that need to be in the setlist for you to stop posting the same old comments?

I just wanna see what kind of expectations you have. I'm curious.

So just post a number or a % of songs in the setlist. Thanks!




/jarmo



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rebelhipi on February 03, 2020, 03:37:24 PM

7 new songs per show. if they play the same songs twice in a row it dosent count.

Honestly, everytime ive seen them i got atleast 1 new song ive never seen them do before. Personally i have no complaints.
But. its true that a new album would make us all very happy obviously.


I'd have been pumped if I was at the show they dug out 'Locomotive'.  In my top 10 all time GNR tunes.

My second NITL show, I got 'There Was A Time'.  Hands down my favorite CD tune.  Life was good.
Ah, TWAT is a rare treat. I hope i get that lucky someday.

Lemme see.
2006 I got IRS and Think About You, The Blues which are semi rare.
2010 Got my first Sorry and This I Love
2017 Bangkok i got My Michelle and my First Coma and other NITL staples.
2017 Hämeenlinna New Rose, Whole Lotta Rosie, Black Hole Sun.
2018 Berlin Used To Love Her, Slither, Wichita
2018 Tallinn Shadow Of Your Love


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 03, 2020, 03:37:34 PM
I also lack your vested interest to stay on message and not dare rock the boat.  Which I get.  But can't discount either.

Your assumption that I'm not allowed, or dare, to say what I think is just astounding and... wrong.

I get why you make that kind of assumption. After all, you can't say what I say unless there's some kind of hidden dark reason for it right?

Others wouldn't make the same assumption and would come to different conclusions. But everyone's different. Some people know me, others think they do.... :)



In short, I believe they'll release new music. One of the reasons is that I don't think they have written and worked on those songs to keep them for themselves.  :)




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sofine11 on February 03, 2020, 03:41:46 PM

In short, I believe they'll release new music. One of the reasons is that I don't think they have written and worked on those songs to keep them for themselves.  :)

/jarmo


Do you still believe that's in the works for this spring to coincide with the tour?  Or are you just speaking loosely and in generalities? 

Because I too believe we'll hear new GNR music sometime in our lifetime.  But that's a pretty big parking spot and you don't exactly need to be Nostradamus to make that prediction.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 03, 2020, 03:49:39 PM
Do you still believe that's in the works for this spring to coincide with the tour?  Or are you just speaking loosely and in generalities? 

Because I too believe we'll hear new GNR music sometime in our lifetime.  But that's a pretty big parking spot and you don't exactly need to be Nostradamus to make that prediction.

So you're not as negative as you come across!  :hihi:  ;) Joking!

Seriously though, I'm not gonna write off spring 2020 in February.


They still haven't mentioned this tour being part of Not In This Lifetime. So, it's gotta be something else. A new tour....



7 songs

Then the follow up question would be, which songs would you remove? :)





/jarmo



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sofine11 on February 03, 2020, 04:03:23 PM
Do you still believe that's in the works for this spring to coincide with the tour?  Or are you just speaking loosely and in generalities?  

Because I too believe we'll hear new GNR music sometime in our lifetime.  But that's a pretty big parking spot and you don't exactly need to be Nostradamus to make that prediction.

So you're not as negative as you come across!  :hihi:  ;) Joking!

Seriously though, I'm not gonna write off spring 2020 in February.


They still haven't mentioned this tour being part of Not In This Lifetime. So, it's gotta be something else. A new tour....

/jarmo



Fair enough.  I guess I'm just going by what's traditionally done.  I know it's a dangerous game comparing GNR to other rock bands, but take what Pearl Jam just did.  The single and album announcement coincided with the tour dates.  GNR have already made the full tour announcement through August of this year, with zero hint of an album.

Now, if they're throwing playbook out the window and just releasing this album guerilla style once the mixing and mastering are done, could it just drop?  Sure, that's possible.  However, I just don't want to bank on that unlikely scenario.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Nightrain7 on February 03, 2020, 04:07:03 PM

For one, when the band tours Australia tickets are as high as $400. You add travel and accomodation as a ‘die hard’ its quite expensive to see the band. I even travelled to Coachella for the reunion from Australia. Now is it too much to ask for the band to play a different show from the past 3 years?

For me its:
-2 to 3 brand new songs in the set- to get the creative machine flowing and gives back to the die hards that spend so much to consistently see the band.
-drop the over played unnecessary covers (seriously I’ve seen the band 4 times since 2013, i dont want to hear The Seeker again!) Alternating Dont Cry and Patience in replace of a cover thats been over played is ridiculous. We are seeing Guns N’ Roses not Soundgarden or The Who or Glen Campbell.
-changing the order of songs, why not open with Jungle or Nightrain or something else? A new energy, something slightly different and unexpected. Change it nightly even? Be spontaneous.
-Being in the crowd and knowing exactly what song is coming next isn’t overly exciting after so many shows.
- you cant argue with the original songs the band plays, absolutely not! They have produced some huge songs for us over the past few tours: coma, locomotive, etc but there is still many many GNR songs that could be played.
-when the Stones toured we could text what deep cut we would love to hear, how cool is that!
- the extended solos instead of playing Guns N Roses songs is getting pretty boring too. Lets see, do i want to hear Slash play a 10 minute solo in the middle of Rocket Queen , not for the 5th time! I would prefer another Guns N Roses song. As the majority would agree im sure.

Not trying to come across as entitled or complaining, its purely about this band expecting its fans to spend hundred if not thousands of dollars to see the exact same
Show.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on February 03, 2020, 04:07:25 PM

Your assumption that I'm not allowed, or dare, to say what I think is just astounding and... wrong.

I get why you make that kind of assumption. After all, you can't say what I say unless there's some kind of hidden dark reason for it right?


C'mon, man.  Seriously?

If the turnip truck just rolled through your neighborhood, it was not immediately after ejecting me.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on February 03, 2020, 04:08:45 PM

Then the follow up question would be, which songs would you remove? :)


The covers.  At the least, give us a few new ones.

Even The Who doesn't play 'The Seeker'.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Mysteron on February 03, 2020, 04:17:17 PM
Do you still believe that's in the works for this spring to coincide with the tour?  Or are you just speaking loosely and in generalities? 

Because I too believe we'll hear new GNR music sometime in our lifetime.  But that's a pretty big parking spot and you don't exactly need to be Nostradamus to make that prediction.

So you're not as negative as you come across!  :hihi:  ;) Joking!

Seriously though, I'm not gonna write off spring 2020 in February.


They still haven't mentioned this tour being part of Not In This Lifetime. So, it's gotta be something else. A new tour....



7 songs

Then the follow up question would be, which songs would you remove? :)





/jarmo



Read, and absorb.

It's a new tour, a new chapter, the interviews give a clue, even the band asked what new songs to add on their twitter, I'm sure I read that.

If the band talk new album, new chapter, then do the same tour, then people will talk with their wallets/purses at the end of the day.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rebelhipi on February 03, 2020, 04:21:00 PM

Then the follow up question would be, which songs would you remove? :)


The covers.  At the least, give us a few new ones.

Even The Who doesn't play 'The Seeker'.
They do every once in a while https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OFq-HWhtU0


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sofine11 on February 03, 2020, 04:25:41 PM

If the band talk new album, new chapter, then do the same tour, then people will talk with their wallets/purses at the end of the day.


And really, with that single sentence, Mysteron has perfectly summarized my sentiments. Bravo.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Mysteron on February 03, 2020, 04:44:14 PM

If the band talk new album, new chapter, then do the same tour, then people will talk with their wallets/purses at the end of the day.


And really, with that single sentence, Mysteron has perfectly summarized my sentiments. Bravo.

Aye, but armed with the obvious, and the fact that two giants in Uni and Livenation are driving the car, give the band a little space and time to do their thing. Forego CD, that whole era has to be written off as a basis for what is happening now.

As Duff said, it is all about legacy, and they are laying that out as we speak. We will look back upon this year in years to come and the fans will speak with their money in years to come if GN'R want to be considered an entity with longevity. The band obviously have to do the right thing for them, but that involves doing the right thing for the people that support them.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sofine11 on February 03, 2020, 04:52:41 PM

If the band talk new album, new chapter, then do the same tour, then people will talk with their wallets/purses at the end of the day.


And really, with that single sentence, Mysteron has perfectly summarized my sentiments. Bravo.

Aye, but armed with the obvious, and the fact that two giants in Uni and Livenation are driving the car, give the band a little space and time to do their thing. Forego CD, that whole era has to be written off as a basis for what is happening now.

As Duff said, it is all about legacy, and they are laying that out as we speak. We will look back upon this year in years to come and the fans will speak with their money in years to come if GN'R want to be considered an entity with longevity. The band obviously have to do the right thing for them, but that involves doing the right thing for the people that support them.

At this point, now that the entire tour has been rolled out spanning well into Q3, it comes down to whether or not the powers that be can figure out how to negotiate a release that everyone's happy with, and whether or not we as fans have faith in this regime to make it a reality during that time.  That's a big leap of faith.  Sure, anything's possible.  But realistic?  I honestly don't know.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Mysteron on February 03, 2020, 05:06:10 PM

If the band talk new album, new chapter, then do the same tour, then people will talk with their wallets/purses at the end of the day.


And really, with that single sentence, Mysteron has perfectly summarized my sentiments. Bravo.

Aye, but armed with the obvious, and the fact that two giants in Uni and Livenation are driving the car, give the band a little space and time to do their thing. Forego CD, that whole era has to be written off as a basis for what is happening now.

As Duff said, it is all about legacy, and they are laying that out as we speak. We will look back upon this year in years to come and the fans will speak with their money in years to come if GN'R want to be considered an entity with longevity. The band obviously have to do the right thing for them, but that involves doing the right thing for the people that support them.

At this point, now that the entire tour has been rolled out spanning well into Q3, it comes down to whether or not the powers that be can figure out how to negotiate a release that everyone's happy with, and whether or not we as fans have faith in this regime to make it a reality during that time.  That's a big leap of faith.  Sure, anything's possible.  But realistic?  I honestly don't know.

On the forums, the band need to look beyond the negative comments and just see that people just want a song. They want a 5 note Close Encounters experience to see the band are still productively active. On the forums, no one cares about how songs are released, just do something. I get it, and I am sure someone, somewhere, on a management level gets it as well. We have been here 20 years with one album. When the band were messed about, we were messed with as well. We live and feel, in a different way, the journey of Axl Rose.

But, there are the 5 million who saw them live at the concerts as well. 4.9 million of them do not post on forums. So.… But....

It is one of those things, the band will consider what we are saying, but there is a bigger picture as well.

Again though, bigger picture, it is new chapter, so there has to be something to sell.

And, the powers that be refer to a lot of people now. It will not just be Axl and TB.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: damnthehaters on February 03, 2020, 05:15:54 PM
Yes, most people are going to see GNR nowadays because of their old hits.  However, that doesn’t mean a new album isn’t necessarily needed.  

A new album would 1) spark even more interest.  2) hopefully get them some new and positive publicity. 3) maybe prolong their relevancy, and 4) add to their legacy and possibly make it a better one.  

If GNR never put out another album, they would still go down as one of better rock bands.  However, there will always be a lot of “what if” and “not enough material” to be named up there near the top.   By putting out new material over the coming years, they could really add to their legacy and even be talked about as one of the greatest ever!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: gnrpatience on February 03, 2020, 05:18:53 PM
Do you still believe that's in the works for this spring to coincide with the tour?  Or are you just speaking loosely and in generalities? 

Because I too believe we'll hear new GNR music sometime in our lifetime.  But that's a pretty big parking spot and you don't exactly need to be Nostradamus to make that prediction.

So you're not as negative as you come across!  :hihi:  ;) Joking!

Seriously though, I'm not gonna write off spring 2020 in February.


They still haven't mentioned this tour being part of Not In This Lifetime. So, it's gotta be something else. A new tour....

I think they called 'Larger than life' tour. =)



7 songs

Then the follow up question would be, which songs would you remove? :)





/jarmo




Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4LIFEJD on February 03, 2020, 05:21:56 PM
I think pending on the market their are just areas GNR are always gonna sell out regardless of new music or not. New York, LA, Chicago and Boston would be pretty close to locks for sell outs or just about sell outs the other spots I don't know how well they will do without incentive if they have not seen GNR in their current incarnation live before.

With that said I am very torn I am pretty much a lock for buying tickets for Metlife but trying to determine is it better to buy asap or too wait it out and see on the secondary market.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on February 03, 2020, 05:30:16 PM
My god you people just worry yourself into all kinds of bad places and dark moods.  Calm the fuck down :hihi:

I'll take it as you've got a lot of love for this band.  Can we get back to, woohoo GNR in the USA!  


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on February 03, 2020, 05:37:03 PM
They are never going to struggle to sell tickets with this line-up.

There is a reason they are booking stadiums and not "up close and personal" <wink> type venues.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 03, 2020, 05:45:34 PM
C'mon, man.  Seriously?


Seriously. Your assumption that I'm afraid to say what I think is just bullshit. To put it bluntly.

You repeat it, yet I've yet to see any evidence to back up your assumption.


Maybe my fear is just my honest opinion.... Oh the horror!



Here's another truth about the setlist. The band plays The Seeker because they want to. It's not there because the Internet demanded it to be in the set... :)

Another hard truth: They removed Wichita Lineman and Black Hole Sun from the Miami setlist. So less covers as you wished! Also, Coma or Locomotive weren't played, they changed the setlist!  :P




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on February 03, 2020, 05:50:12 PM
Good riddance to 'Wichita Lineman'.

Did ANYONE dig that?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: (t) on February 03, 2020, 05:54:34 PM
Good riddance to 'Wichita Lineman'.

Did ANYONE dig that?

I do.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: PermissionToLand on February 03, 2020, 05:57:47 PM
Doubtful,the large crowds that go to these stadium shows skew way more to casual fans than diehards on message boards.  They  take bathroom breaks during songs they don’t know and have no idea who Izzy Stradlin is. They don’t care about new music.  

The NITL tour was the third highest grossing tour in history, how are we still talking about Izzy’s drawing power?  Is there even one person on this board who skipped the last tour because Izzy wasn’t there ?

Okay, but do you think casuals will go see the same band every other year? I think it would be hard to sell out stadiums to casuals who just saw you in 2018. I agree that Izzy is a non-factor though. Even many hardcore fans like myself could care less about him.

I don't think they'll sell out but promoters have obviously decided that they'll sell enough tickets to turn a profit.  That being said, they are going to eventually find the saturation point for this.  A new album won't make that much difference either.  Show me one band from the 80's or 90's where crowds are filling up stadiums to hear shit from the new album.

Show me one other 80s/90s band who was as big as Guns and who has returned to the scene after a 25 year absence.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on February 03, 2020, 05:58:43 PM
Good riddance to 'Wichita Lineman'.

Did ANYONE dig that?

It's a nice song and the way they did it worked ok - but agree.
Changing up the many covers would not be a bad idea

I personally enjoyed the way the previous version of this band handled No Quarter - bring that baby back


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Spirit on February 03, 2020, 06:02:24 PM
Good riddance to 'Wichita Lineman'.

Did ANYONE dig that?

I like them doing it, but would rather they would have a studio version of it as a b-side to a single or something.

Would exchange it with a GN'R song in the live set every day of the week.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Nightrain7 on February 03, 2020, 06:06:10 PM
Good riddance to 'Wichita Lineman'.

Did ANYONE dig that?

It was cool the first few times. My point is that you dont pay to see GNR play covers (KOHD/LALD the exception) I get that the band enjoy playing them and thats their prerogative .
But if Witchita Lineman is played instead of Patience or Dont Cry, its sad for the fans who grew up loving those songs. And it really sucks the wind out of a live audience, its a ‘wtf’ is this moment.  The Seeker has been played since what? 2011?  Again if its being played over songs like Your Crazy, Out Ta Get Me, My Michelle,  or any unplayed Use Your Illusions songs, again its just sad.
I personally think it just suits Axl’s vocals and is easy for him to sing 🤷‍♂️ He should use his baritone more often. But so are songs like You Aint The First,  Bad Obsession, Dont Damn Me but for some reason they choose to play the same cover for the past 10 years.  Insert the **they like playing it** blah blah, its done get over it. We pay huge money to see this band play their own songs.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 03, 2020, 06:32:00 PM
Okay, but do you think casuals will go see the same band every other year? I think it would be hard to sell out stadiums to casuals who just saw you in 2018.


I think it depends more on when the show is and how much tickets cost, than anything else. To answer your question, yes I do.


I think one show is in the same place as in 2018 (Firenze Rocks).




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rebelhipi on February 03, 2020, 06:32:41 PM
Good riddance to 'Wichita Lineman'.

Did ANYONE dig that?

It's a nice song and the way they did it worked ok - but agree.
Changing up the many covers would not be a bad idea

I personally enjoyed the way the previous version of this band handled No Quarter - bring that baby back
YES!
Dizzys No Quarter was epic.
Id Love to see Dizzy have a solo spot like that again followed be Street Of Dreams or Catcher. Like in the ''old days''

btw, i like Wichita too.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4LIFEJD on February 03, 2020, 06:36:27 PM
They are never going to struggle to sell tickets with this line-up.

There is a reason they are booking stadiums and not "up close and personal" <wink> type venues.

I would actually like this with the current line up if they did that type of shows again.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4LIFEJD on February 03, 2020, 06:38:27 PM
Chapter 2 The Spaghetti Incident years!!!  :hihi:. For fans who love covers already a tour of nothing but cover songs  :peace:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on February 03, 2020, 07:49:53 PM
I hope we get a new album but regardless I will be going July 18 at MetLife stadium.  I didn't get to see GNR in 2016 but am looking forward to seeing them in 2020. I guess we will have to agree to disagree when it comes to new music but at least we get to see our favorite band.



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on February 03, 2020, 08:19:13 PM
So does anyone know if the Nightrain presale is worth the money/hassle these days, or have you found that buying tix when they go on sale to the general public still gets you good seats? (I'm not interested in GA floor tickets, but want to get some decent seats near-ish to the stage.)

Have a citibank credit card?

You'll get access to a batch of tickets at about noon tomorrow for most shows.

I'm not sure about numbers, but the citibank presales USUALLY work for me.  I've used the night train presales in the past to good effect.  I'm just not sure the membership, for presale access alone, is worth "more" than my citibank access.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: draguns on February 03, 2020, 08:33:58 PM
Hopefully I can get a ticket. I may go to the MetLife show no matter what, though. I have no vacation plans this year. I'm also thinking you never know what can happen in life to them or myself. Might as well spend money on something I really enjoy.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on February 03, 2020, 09:46:21 PM
Excellent point, after what happened to Kobe Bryant..
Life is short enjoy!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: axlroses on February 03, 2020, 10:41:50 PM
Going to San Francisco show with my son.  New songs, old songs whatever.  I have loved every GNR show I have been to and it is worth it.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on February 03, 2020, 10:55:59 PM
I'm holding out for a St Louis show.  I think they may pick up Iowa or KC after the Chicago show but there's still a lot of the US they could turn around and come back for.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on February 04, 2020, 01:49:11 AM
no Cleveland? damn....Detroit it is. I am of the thinking , like many that they do have to offer something new/different to generate the buzz for this run of shows! guess we will see


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Civil Attitude on February 04, 2020, 03:16:47 AM
no Cleveland? damn....Detroit it is. I am of the thinking , like many that they do have to offer something new/different to generate the buzz for this run of shows! guess we will see



I agree man!....Regardless, its been a couple years since I've been able to see them play. so Screw it! I'm going with my crue, and were gonna have a blast. I already reserved my hotel  :beer:  Love a Detroit show!!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on February 04, 2020, 09:54:34 AM
For what it's worth - Live Nation appears to be going hard on the promo
CBS sportsline has an add for the tour on the first page - which means A LOT of fantasy sports players will know that this is on


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on February 04, 2020, 10:16:02 AM
Does anyone know the prices of tickets at MetLife stadium?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on February 04, 2020, 10:18:20 AM
no Cleveland? damn....Detroit it is. I am of the thinking , like many that they do have to offer something new/different to generate the buzz for this run of shows! guess we will see



I agree man!....Regardless, its been a couple years since I've been able to see them play. so Screw it! I'm going with my crue, and were gonna have a blast. I already reserved my hotel  :beer:  Love a Detroit show!!

cool. I just landed 2 pit tickets


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on February 04, 2020, 12:07:17 PM
Does anyone know the prices of tickets at MetLife stadium?

Pit about 250
Side stage lower level 250
Rest of lower level between 100 and 150
Mid level 100
Upper level between 50 and 100

If you're looking for lower level tix in the 150 range...I'd suggest anything you can find in Section 115C and lower.  Better seats (padded), access to the coaches club (private bathrooms and concession/food areas), and a nice little side windowed area that will get you pretty close to the stage connected to the coaches club.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 04, 2020, 12:09:11 PM
Promo clip from Live Nation: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=808930229581710



/jarmo




Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: hunter80 on February 04, 2020, 12:42:49 PM
I’m excited for the new tour. It takes a lot to put these shows on and the band and entire crew really deliver.

I don’t expect new music at all. I imagine GNR May eventually take a cue from the Stones and maybe do special event shows where they play lots of deep cuts like the Stones did with Sticky Fingers as an example. Perhaps with a possible box set and remastered Illusion albums someday hopefully happening we will see shows geared towards those songs?

I’d love to see GNR in 2020 and I’m glad they are touring.



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Spirit on February 04, 2020, 12:53:04 PM
Dream scenario:

- Release new album, and make this year's tour about that.
- mid-2021: Release of UYI 30th anniversary boxset, with new stadium tour to support that.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4L on February 04, 2020, 12:58:19 PM
no Cleveland? damn....Detroit it is. I am of the thinking , like many that they do have to offer something new/different to generate the buzz for this run of shows! guess we will see



I agree man!....Regardless, its been a couple years since I've been able to see them play. so Screw it! I'm going with my crue, and were gonna have a blast. I already reserved my hotel  :beer:  Love a Detroit show!!

cool. I just landed 2 pit tickets


Nightrain presale?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kunzerd on February 04, 2020, 01:35:16 PM
How many new songs:

I’ve seen guns a decent number of times at this point and while the setlist has stayed relatively the same, there’s always been something swapped out.

So while I’d like “new” music, new to me is ok too. New new I’d say two surprise songs would be nice, but new to me, maybe three or four I haven’t heard before, or haven’t heard in a while. I’d love locamotive or better yet, breakdown. I’d also like to see there was a time again (only caught it once at Hammerstein) and I haven’t heard Madagascar in awhile, or think about you.

In terms of covers, I usually think that’s a space where a band could make a show a unique experience, so I feel like it’s better to whip out something new and unexpected rather than do the same cover every night for a tour. I always enjoy when a band goes against type with these too, like when robin and Richard used to do Beautiful. Instead of black hole sun, why don’t they bring out slash’s song Promise Me, that’d be a cool Cornell tribute, since he wrote the lyrics.

This stuff can be hard to accomplish though because guns show is very effects heavy as well, lighting/screens/pyro is planned out and timed. I saw faith no more twice in a week once and between the two shows there was a 18 song difference. They can pull that off because the stage production is bare bones, guns stage show kind of restricts them to a degree, so they have less flexibility in a set list.

Either way, as much as I’d like new stuff, creating is hard, and it can’t be done on demand. Also there’s a ton of pressure on someone like Axl who takes long breaks from recording, and most likely anything he comes up with next will be called “not as great as the old stuff”.  Sure they can just unload some new material, but for them it can’t just be anything, it has to be the best of the best because there’s a huge expectation. I’d love new stuff, but there’s other bands out there for me to listen to. I can still treasure what they made and at the end of the day it’s my own choice to go to a show or not.

On a final note, yes, there’s a ton of stuff left over from Chinese democracy, and I can totally hear how a slash/duff influence could elevate it. But who wants to just fill in for things written by other people? I feel like even if they did bring a couple of those songs back over to a new album, it would be more fulfilling as a song writer to actually bring some new compositions to the table or hash things out together.


Sorry for the long rant, I read here more than I post.



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on February 04, 2020, 01:58:38 PM
The stage production point is a valid one.
I think it does take slightly away from a show when people can look up the next song because they've been playing the same identical 10 first songs for the last 3 years.
Part of a good show is that you don't know what's necessarily coming - at least to me.

And for God's sakes - Open with Jungle once in awhile.  :peace:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kunzerd on February 04, 2020, 02:07:20 PM
The stage production point is a valid one.
I think it does take slightly away from a show when people can look up the next song because they've been playing the same identical 10 first songs for the last 3 years.
Part of a good show is that you don't know what's necessarily coming - at least to me.

And for God's sakes - Open with Jungle once in awhile.  :peace:


I think they opened with jungle at every show I’ve been to. And I kind of like that tradition, cause I know when I hear the opening notes for it shits about to get real.  I also like the tradition of night train before encores because I know I have three songs left, and ending on paradise city. Everything else can be switched up.

I do miss the confetti canons though at the end. I think they stopped using those from what I can tell in YouTube videos.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 04, 2020, 02:45:47 PM
I do miss the confetti canons though at the end. I think they stopped using those from what I can tell in YouTube videos.

Confetti cannons were in action in Las Vegas last November and before that as well.




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on February 04, 2020, 02:49:51 PM
The stage production point is a valid one.
I think it does take slightly away from a show when people can look up the next song because they've been playing the same identical 10 first songs for the last 3 years.
Part of a good show is that you don't know what's necessarily coming - at least to me.

And for God's sakes - Open with Jungle once in awhile.  :peace:


I think they opened with jungle at every show I’ve been to. And I kind of like that tradition, cause I know when I hear the opening notes for it shits about to get real.  I also like the tradition of night train before encores because I know I have three songs left, and ending on paradise city. Everything else can be switched up.

I do miss the confetti canons though at the end. I think they stopped using those from what I can tell in YouTube videos.

Jungle opening chords is so perfectly perfect to open a Gn'r show to - much more so than Easy imo - holding out hope they go back to it
Saw them in Hammerstein Ballroom - think it was Bumblefoot's first show - and they started with that - it was unreal - can play it slow and pull the crowd in at your will
PC is a great closer - can't argue that, though often thought the outro to NRain would be an interesting way to cap off a great night too.

All good either way


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4L on February 04, 2020, 02:50:05 PM
I would like to see this set list this summer.


- It’s So Easy
- Mr. Brownstone
- Chinese Democracy
- Welcome To The Jungle
- Slither
- Better
- Estranged
- Live and Let Die
- You’re Crazy
-  Rocket Queen
- You Could Be Mine
- Shadow of Your Love
- Attitude
- Dead Horse
- Hard School
- Sweet Child O’Mine
- November Rain
- KOHD
- Nightrain


Encore

- Perhaps
- Patience
- Benny and The Jets
- Paradise City


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kunzerd on February 04, 2020, 03:03:27 PM
I do miss the confetti canons though at the end. I think they stopped using those from what I can tell in YouTube videos.

Confetti cannons were in action in Las Vegas last November and before that as well.




/jarmo



That’s good to hear, I’ve managed to grab some from every show I’ve been to and lay it in my clear Cd trays with my show tickets.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: (t) on February 04, 2020, 03:14:23 PM
What I like about It's So Easy as the opener is they just jump right into it, as opposed to the long tease with Jungle. Bring back Right Next Door to Hell. 8)


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on February 04, 2020, 04:00:15 PM
no Cleveland? damn....Detroit it is. I am of the thinking , like many that they do have to offer something new/different to generate the buzz for this run of shows! guess we will see



I agree man!....Regardless, its been a couple years since I've been able to see them play. so Screw it! I'm going with my crue, and were gonna have a blast. I already reserved my hotel  :beer:  Love a Detroit show!!

cool. I just landed 2 pit tickets


Nightrain presale?
yeah....i had to try like 10 times. it kept telling me the number of tickets was not available. then it just popped up. 250 each. 575 for 2 with the taxes


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: axlroses on February 04, 2020, 04:07:37 PM
Picked up two floor field level tickets for San Francisco


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4L on February 04, 2020, 04:46:15 PM
I got a pit ticket for the Seattle show, with the Citi presale.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on February 04, 2020, 04:58:19 PM
My cousin got our tickets to the MetLife show on July 18.  Section 134, can't wait.  Is anyone else going to this show?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Ignatius on February 04, 2020, 06:47:17 PM

I wasn't really expecting this stadium tour in the US, to be honest.

We'll have to wait and see, but there's no way Live Nation would book stadium tour to play the same songs. Too risky.

Guns couldn't even sell out 20,000 seaters last year in the US. Now we are talking 60,000 tickets per show...this is a similar stadium tour as in 2016 when we had the reunion hype. 4 years later, there's no way promoters will go down the same road without something else to get people excited about.

I guess we will see in a few days when tickets go on sale, but I don't think we are going to see many sell-out shows unless they have an ace up their sleeve.

I've been a fan since 1989, and I keep saying the same thing; 2020 could very well be the new 1991. Back in 91, they started touring early (Rock in Rio in Feb) and played a few warm-up shows in late spring before kicking off a full US summer tour where they played half a dozen songs from the Illusions (which they will be released a few months later).

I have a feeling 2020 is going to be similar. We already had one show, now they are heading to South America in March, then to Europe in May and US in July.

Maybe we get a few new tracks in South America or maybe in Europe. By the time they come around to the US, I'm sure we are going to have 3-4 new songs added to the setlist (talking about unreleased material here). When September comes around, we will get a new album.

Why bother doing this shit all over again? Do you think Slash and Duff would go down the same road again 4 years later? NITL is over, there are no more markets to play, they played everywhere, it's time to do something new.

I'm 100% sure we will hear new music played this year which will lead us to an album release by early fall.






Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on February 04, 2020, 08:20:29 PM
Your timeline seems to make sense, new music by the fall is possible.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: adman2374 on February 04, 2020, 08:33:19 PM
is the Citi pre-sale for all venues??


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on February 04, 2020, 10:59:21 PM
Also, let's not forget Hard School was on the setlist as an alternative. Also, remember that now deleted Instagram post by Duff's wife? Didn't it mention March 27th specifically? We now know that has nothing to do with the tour because it's been announced.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Civil Attitude on February 05, 2020, 12:35:34 AM
Im a 3rd Shifter.. Set my alarm to go off just before 12pm... scoooped up 5 tickets for 80 a piece after fees with my citibank card.(Detroit show).. then went right back to bed!!  I had  already booked my hotel yesterday!.. Im pumped its a weekend show and everything :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on February 05, 2020, 07:07:38 AM
is the Citi pre-sale for all venues??

As far as I can tell, yes.



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kunzerd on February 05, 2020, 08:05:31 AM
Also, let's not forget Hard School was on the setlist as an alternative. Also, remember that now deleted Instagram post by Duff's wife? Didn't it mention March 27th specifically? We now know that has nothing to do with the tour because it's been announced.

I don’t recall a specific date but there was a shamrock emoji, which would be the 17th.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Spirit on February 05, 2020, 09:11:13 AM
Also, let's not forget Hard School was on the setlist as an alternative. Also, remember that now deleted Instagram post by Duff's wife? Didn't it mention March 27th specifically? We now know that has nothing to do with the tour because it's been announced.

I don’t recall a specific date but there was a shamrock emoji, which would be the 17th.

Nah, that was a reference to Duff.

Looked at the post, she posted these emoji's: an axe, a rose, a tophat and a shamrock.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: wakeup on February 05, 2020, 12:46:20 PM
The Citi presale for Arlington has pit for 250.  Much better than when I looked yesterday before the presale was 500 and 1000 dollar options.  The crazy thing is second row seats are 700.  Yea it’s a vip package with not many perks.  Pit is much better in my opinion especially for 250. Little on second note.  I feel that Live Nation has been messing around with ticket prices.  Especially the last year or so on shows they promote not just  Venue and ticketing services. 


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 06, 2020, 04:30:01 PM
The Smashing Pumpkins are coming to select #GNR2020 shows. Philadelphia, Detroit, Toronto, Washington, East Rutherford, Boston
See you out there 🤘
https://www.gunsnroses.com/tour






/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on February 06, 2020, 04:52:59 PM
Pumpkins one of my favorite bands. I saw them several years ago.

Too bad none of the shows they are listed for are an option.  :rant:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Nytunz on February 06, 2020, 04:53:32 PM
The Smashing Pumpkins are coming to select #GNR2020 shows. Philadelphia, Detroit, Toronto, Washington, East Rutherford, Boston
See you out there 🤘
https://www.gunsnroses.com/tour






/jarmo


Wow. Thats very cool... didnt see that coming


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kunzerd on February 06, 2020, 04:54:13 PM
Also, let's not forget Hard School was on the setlist as an alternative. Also, remember that now deleted Instagram post by Duff's wife? Didn't it mention March 27th specifically? We now know that has nothing to do with the tour because it's been announced.

I don’t recall a specific date but there was a shamrock emoji, which would be the 17th.

Nah, that was a reference to Duff.

Looked at the post, she posted these emoji's: an axe, a rose, a tophat and a shamrock.


Good eye, I didn’t recall all of them so I missed the pattern.

Though I’m not demanding new music, I do agree with the sentiment that tickets would go faster if they had an album behind them to tour on. I’ve been watching philly tickets all day and I can still get my pick of anywhere in the arena.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on February 06, 2020, 05:29:20 PM
It keeps getting better, Smashing Pumpkins opening for GNR, two of my favorite bands. :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: AxlHBK on February 06, 2020, 05:57:56 PM
Just got 2 Pit tickets to Philly using Live Nation Presale Password SOLO.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: draguns on February 06, 2020, 08:26:39 PM
I'll be at the MetLife Stadium show on July 18th. Section 227 Row 8. I usually get this area for Giants tickets. I can't wait!!!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: faldor on February 07, 2020, 08:19:35 AM
Does anyone know the prices of tickets at MetLife stadium?

Pit about 250
Side stage lower level 250
Rest of lower level between 100 and 150
Mid level 100
Upper level between 50 and 100

If you're looking for lower level tix in the 150 range...I'd suggest anything you can find in Section 115C and lower.  Better seats (padded), access to the coaches club (private bathrooms and concession/food areas), and a nice little side windowed area that will get you pretty close to the stage connected to the coaches club.
It’s been awhile since I bought tickets through Ticketmaster but I’m seeing seats for way more ($400+ in 137, 113, 114) than those prices. Are those resale, people just jacking up prices? I’m fine with paying $150-$200 for decent seats but not double that amount.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on February 07, 2020, 08:34:12 AM
Does anyone know the prices of tickets at MetLife stadium?

Pit about 250
Side stage lower level 250
Rest of lower level between 100 and 150
Mid level 100
Upper level between 50 and 100

If you're looking for lower level tix in the 150 range...I'd suggest anything you can find in Section 115C and lower.  Better seats (padded), access to the coaches club (private bathrooms and concession/food areas), and a nice little side windowed area that will get you pretty close to the stage connected to the coaches club.
It’s been awhile since I bought tickets through Ticketmaster but I’m seeing seats for way more ($400+ in 137, 113, 114) than those prices. Are those resale, people just jacking up prices? I’m fine with paying $150-$200 for decent seats but not double that amount.

Yeah same here - was just looking at Metlife and it's pretty rough
Nosebleeds are in the $150 range - figure $175 after all of the fees and stuff - but there doesn't seem to be consecutive tickets in all available areas

Bad news is to take a small group to the show is gonna bang you for a grand at least after everything
Good news is - it does appear these stadiums will not have much trouble selling out


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on February 07, 2020, 08:37:32 AM
Does anyone know the prices of tickets at MetLife stadium?

Pit about 250
Side stage lower level 250
Rest of lower level between 100 and 150
Mid level 100
Upper level between 50 and 100

If you're looking for lower level tix in the 150 range...I'd suggest anything you can find in Section 115C and lower.  Better seats (padded), access to the coaches club (private bathrooms and concession/food areas), and a nice little side windowed area that will get you pretty close to the stage connected to the coaches club.
It’s been awhile since I bought tickets through Ticketmaster but I’m seeing seats for way more ($400+ in 137, 113, 114) than those prices. Are those resale, people just jacking up prices? I’m fine with paying $150-$200 for decent seats but not double that amount.

Yup, likely resale prices.  Tickemaster has joined the secondary market, and is letting folks resell right along side "original" tickets.  When you search, your initial look doesn't really differentiate between the two.

For the Citi presale, there were NO resales up at that point, so my prices were (at the time) all "original" tickets.  I suppose they could have upped them since then, but I find that hard to believe.

I think there's a way to filter out the resales, but honestly, I don't remember how.  It's buried somewhere in TM's terrible interface.

I will also say, when I went looking with the Citi presale....it looked like the majority of tickets were available for purchase with that presale.  I didn't see a lot being held back.  Since it's hard to throw a rock and hit someone without SOME sort of citi credit card....I'd imagine a lot of seats sold using that presale.

One other thing: If you're looking now, without using a presale code...I think all you can see is resale prices.  General Public sales don't go up til...noon? 10 AM? Something like that.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: faldor on February 07, 2020, 08:47:54 AM
I thought about that too since the general public sale hasn’t started yet. Hopefully normal prices prevail then. I have a hotel room booked but no tickets.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on February 07, 2020, 09:34:31 AM
Does anyone know the prices of tickets at MetLife stadium?

Pit about 250
Side stage lower level 250
Rest of lower level between 100 and 150
Mid level 100
Upper level between 50 and 100

If you're looking for lower level tix in the 150 range...I'd suggest anything you can find in Section 115C and lower.  Better seats (padded), access to the coaches club (private bathrooms and concession/food areas), and a nice little side windowed area that will get you pretty close to the stage connected to the coaches club.
It’s been awhile since I bought tickets through Ticketmaster but I’m seeing seats for way more ($400+ in 137, 113, 114) than those prices. Are those resale, people just jacking up prices? I’m fine with paying $150-$200 for decent seats but not double that amount.

Yup, likely resale prices.  Tickemaster has joined the secondary market, and is letting folks resell right along side "original" tickets.  When you search, your initial look doesn't really differentiate between the two.

For the Citi presale, there were NO resales up at that point, so my prices were (at the time) all "original" tickets.  I suppose they could have upped them since then, but I find that hard to believe.

I think there's a way to filter out the resales, but honestly, I don't remember how.  It's buried somewhere in TM's terrible interface.

I will also say, when I went looking with the Citi presale....it looked like the majority of tickets were available for purchase with that presale.  I didn't see a lot being held back.  Since it's hard to throw a rock and hit someone without SOME sort of citi credit card....I'd imagine a lot of seats sold using that presale.

One other thing: If you're looking now, without using a presale code...I think all you can see is resale prices.  General Public sales don't go up til...noon? 10 AM? Something like that.

Yeah - you can filter them out by 'ticket type' and going for standard. Ticketmaster have started selling their own tickets at prices over face value in a shallow attempt to fleece people. Don't be fooled....and if the tickets you want aren't available for face value, just keep looking back now and again, and you'll get them at some point.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: MrMojoRa on February 07, 2020, 03:29:40 PM
Well I picked up 2 Pit tickets for a total of $600 after fees for Citizens Bank Philly show. They were $250 each before the crazy fees.

Kind of having buyer's remorse at this point. Saw them last at Lincoln Financial and not much has changed in their set since then.

Really hoping there will be a new album by then. Would make the money spent worth it.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: (t) on February 07, 2020, 03:35:15 PM
Ticketmaster have started selling their own tickets at prices over face value in a shallow attempt to fleece people.

As if TM weren't a dislikeable enough company to begin with.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kunzerd on February 07, 2020, 04:02:26 PM
Well I picked up 2 Pit tickets for a total of $600 after fees for Citizens Bank Philly show. They were $250 each before the crazy fees.

Kind of having buyer's remorse at this point. Saw them last at Lincoln Financial and not much has changed in their set since then.

Really hoping there will be a new album by then. Would make the money spent worth it.

I went with Pit also, honestly it’s probably the best choice in that field because of the diamond shape the seats in the stands can feel like you’re a mile away. I was in section 135 for The Who last year, only row 9, and that’s how it felt.  I tend to avoid ground level cause my wife is really short and ends up just seeing the backs of heads but I figure if we linger in the back of the pit we should have a good time. I’m looking forward to the confetti.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on February 07, 2020, 07:41:15 PM
I wonder how ticket sales went today? My cousin bought our tickets on Tuesday using Citibank pre sale.  Should be a good tour hopefully get some new music 😁.  Wonder if it will be the leaks or music we have not yet heard.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on February 07, 2020, 10:44:47 PM
Does anyone know the prices of tickets at MetLife stadium?

Pit about 250
Side stage lower level 250
Rest of lower level between 100 and 150
Mid level 100
Upper level between 50 and 100

If you're looking for lower level tix in the 150 range...I'd suggest anything you can find in Section 115C and lower.  Better seats (padded), access to the coaches club (private bathrooms and concession/food areas), and a nice little side windowed area that will get you pretty close to the stage connected to the coaches club.
It’s been awhile since I bought tickets through Ticketmaster but I’m seeing seats for way more ($400+ in 137, 113, 114) than those prices. Are those resale, people just jacking up prices? I’m fine with paying $150-$200 for decent seats but not double that amount.

Yup, likely resale prices.  Tickemaster has joined the secondary market, and is letting folks resell right along side "original" tickets.  When you search, your initial look doesn't really differentiate between the two.

For the Citi presale, there were NO resales up at that point, so my prices were (at the time) all "original" tickets.  I suppose they could have upped them since then, but I find that hard to believe.

I think there's a way to filter out the resales, but honestly, I don't remember how.  It's buried somewhere in TM's terrible interface.

I will also say, when I went looking with the Citi presale....it looked like the majority of tickets were available for purchase with that presale.  I didn't see a lot being held back.  Since it's hard to throw a rock and hit someone without SOME sort of citi credit card....I'd imagine a lot of seats sold using that presale.

One other thing: If you're looking now, without using a presale code...I think all you can see is resale prices.  General Public sales don't go up til...noon? 10 AM? Something like that.
It is in the filter options at the top right. You can uncheck resale there.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on February 07, 2020, 10:52:07 PM
I thought about that too since the general public sale hasn’t started yet. Hopefully normal prices prevail then. I have a hotel room booked but no tickets.
Tickets for the show in my area are quite reasonable. 59.50, 79.50, 89.50, 99.50. It's not until you look in the  single and double digit sections that you have 150, 250.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kunzerd on February 07, 2020, 10:58:31 PM
I wonder how ticket sales went today? My cousin bought our tickets on Tuesday using Citibank pre sale.  Should be a good tour hopefully get some new music 😁.  Wonder if it will be the leaks or music we have not yet heard.

Most of philly is still available.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on February 07, 2020, 11:38:09 PM
went on to look at tickets for Detroit today around 3pm and pit tickets were still available(public sale) $250. I was actually surprised. I got mine Tuesday (nightrain)


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on February 09, 2020, 01:52:55 PM
I think for the stadium tour to sell well, GNR needs to release new music. See what happens...


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: reayj2003 on February 09, 2020, 03:39:34 PM
The logic of this US tour currently makes no sense. The European dates will do just fine, and would of even under the “Not in this Lifetime” banner, especially as places like the UK didn’t actually get many shows.
The US had a huge stadium tour (2016) then a stadium/arena tour
 (2017) then a run of arena gigs as recently as winter 2019.

I can only guess there is a plan to boost the interest between now and July. The GN’R machine has been expertly ran since 2016 and it just seems obvious that a stadium tour so soon with nothing to promote just isn’t going to sell as well...

I hope we are in for new music & this really is “the new chapter”


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Mysteron on February 09, 2020, 04:12:17 PM
The logic of this US tour currently makes no sense. The European dates will do just fine, and would of even under the “Not in this Lifetime” banner, especially as places like the UK didn’t actually get many shows.
The US had a huge stadium tour (2016) then a stadium/arena tour
 (2017) then a run of arena gigs as recently as winter 2019.

I can only guess there is a plan to boost the interest between now and July. The GN’R machine has been expertly ran since 2016 and it just seems obvious that a stadium tour so soon with nothing to promote just isn’t going to sell as well...

I hope we are in for new music & this really is “the new chapter”

The band are packaging it as a new show, it is really only new material that can make a difference. If it was themed on something else, the band would have played their cards by now.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Executioner on February 09, 2020, 07:02:50 PM
The logic of this US tour currently makes no sense. The European dates will do just fine, and would of even under the “Not in this Lifetime” banner, especially as places like the UK didn’t actually get many shows.
The US had a huge stadium tour (2016) then a stadium/arena tour
 (2017) then a run of arena gigs as recently as winter 2019.

I can only guess there is a plan to boost the interest between now and July. The GN’R machine has been expertly ran since 2016 and it just seems obvious that a stadium tour so soon with nothing to promote just isn’t going to sell as well...

I hope we are in for new music & this really is “the new chapter”
Who exactly is pushing them to constantly tour is there nobody in the band with a back bone saying hold on let's think this out we're playing the exact same set list bar a few changes for the last 4 years we've played the same countries and most fans have seen us so let's give them something completely different and new.I really do hope that this is the plan for this forthcoming tour because it really has gone past saturation point.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: axlroses on February 09, 2020, 08:31:27 PM
Maybe they just actually like playing live.  Nobody is forcing anyone to buy tickets.  If it pisses you off don’t go


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: axlroses on February 09, 2020, 09:36:22 PM
....and for the record I would love a new album.  If it happens great, and if not I will enjoy the live concert with my son.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on February 09, 2020, 10:06:39 PM
Maybe they just actually like playing live.  Nobody is forcing anyone to buy tickets.  If it pisses you off don’t go
....and for the record I would love a new album.  If it happens great, and if not I will enjoy the live concert with my son.
I agree but I think the point people are making is that the band is setting up for failure unless they roll out a reason to see the same tour again. I myself bought pit tickets and are happy for sure. However, never in the last 4 years have I seen pit tickets still available late in the day of the general public onsale. I hope they (GNR) have a plan!!!!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: axlroses on February 09, 2020, 10:20:18 PM
The dates are in some cases 5-6 months out.  Too early for doomsday


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on February 12, 2020, 09:37:13 AM
I am going to pass on this tour unless the set-list changes. I just don't want to go see the same show again. I caught 2 NITL shows and they were great......well one was great, one was good but it was more of an issue with a drunk fan next to me blocking my view of the stage &  got kicked out halfway thru ( thankfully)  for fighting and not the show itself. 


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: LunsJail on February 12, 2020, 10:58:51 AM
Got my tickets for DC and I'm pumped!  Only my 2nd time seeing GNR and first for SP!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Naltav on February 12, 2020, 12:28:02 PM
The article brings up some valid points.

Since the new tour is only like 30 days away, it is kinda strange that the announcement of the upcoming tour(s) isn't followed up with some kind of "news" or any new "concept" for the upcoming shows.

Sure, there are different views on both label's and GNR's side when it comes to WHEN and HOW to release new material.

Any info out there on how much music/albums GNR is under contract to deliver to the label? 


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jak0lantern01 on February 12, 2020, 01:30:41 PM
I'm in once they make their way to MSG - my 10 year old daughter has been promised her first concert and that will be the one.   : ok:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 12, 2020, 01:34:57 PM
Since the new tour is only like 30 days away, it is kinda strange that the announcement of the upcoming tour(s) isn't followed up with some kind of "news" or any new "concept" for the upcoming shows.


Latin American tours are usually different from Europe and/or North America.

Over here in Europe and in North America, you can move equipment on trucks. In other parts of the world it's not always that easy, so you might not bring as much equipment with you.





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Ginger King on February 12, 2020, 04:21:23 PM
Since the new tour is only like 30 days away, it is kinda strange that the announcement of the upcoming tour(s) isn't followed up with some kind of "news" or any new "concept" for the upcoming shows.


Latin American tours are usually different from Europe and/or North America.

Over here in Europe and in North America, you can move equipment on trucks. In other parts of the world it's not always that easy, so you might not bring as much equipment with you.


/jarmo


That affects the songs played?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on February 12, 2020, 04:43:50 PM
We can go back and forth on what might be played in between legs, but the stage will be the stage.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 12, 2020, 04:54:12 PM
That affects the songs played?

Depends.

Let's say there's a new stage design and new elements that will be used on one leg and not the other, maybe the setlist will reflect that.






/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 12, 2020, 04:55:33 PM
the stage will be the stage.


LOL. In some places the stage could be one of three stages traveling across the continent.  :hihi:  ;)

Just kidding!



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on February 12, 2020, 06:00:59 PM
The article brings up some valid points.

Since the new tour is only like 30 days away, it is kinda strange that the announcement of the upcoming tour(s) isn't followed up with some kind of "news" or any new "concept" for the upcoming shows.

Sure, there are different views on both label's and GNR's side when it comes to WHEN and HOW to release new material.

Any info out there on how much music/albums GNR is under contract to deliver to the label? 


Of course it does.

Doesn't mean they are all right. It's just an article but there is some fair thoughts - no one here knows any different - so we wait and see how it plays out.
What can you do?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on February 12, 2020, 08:34:45 PM
We can go back and forth on what might be played in between legs, but the stage will be the stage.

There will be similar stages on each leg of the tour, yes.

I expect the SA tour and the EU/US tour stages are different, just because of logistics.

And there's probably 2 different (at least) stage crews with "stages" running around at any given time, during each leg.  I think during the 2016 stadium tour there might even have been 3.  That's not unusual, given how long it takes to break stuff down and set stuff up, as well as transport it all from place to place.

I get your point, too, but the stage does matter in terms of what they play, and how the show goes. The stage has HUGE influence on effects, choreography, and other aspects of the show...all of which tie in to what they play.  I know we all like envisioning that a concert is a spontaneous, in the moment, "super loose" performance.  I hate to burst bubbles but....I worked in a venue, long ago, where I saw some of the biggest acts in the world set up and tear down huge arena shows.  Shows aren't really like that.  Bits of it might be a bit ad libbed or have "one of a couple options" worked in.  But by and large, they are scripted events with tons of moving parts that are all choreographed to work together in unison to make it APPEAR that all this is spontaneous and organic. ;)


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on February 12, 2020, 09:00:42 PM
Jarmo, where are you going to see GNR on this upcoming tour? I'm going to see GNR at MetLife, my third time seeing them, can't wait.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on February 12, 2020, 09:04:45 PM
Jarmo, where are you going to see GNR on this upcoming tour? I'm going to see GNR at MetLife, my third time seeing them, can't wait.

I'm hesitant to answer for him, but...since he's working for them as their photographer (and maybe other job duties we don't know about when on tour), I'd assume he'll be at most (if not every) show.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on February 12, 2020, 09:10:30 PM
Sounds good, maybe I will see him at MetLife 🏟️... :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: draguns on February 13, 2020, 08:15:08 PM
I'm in once they make their way to MSG - my 10 year old daughter has been promised her first concert and that will be the one.   : ok:

FYI. There seems to be an issue with prices at MSG. When I saw Axl/DC in 2016 and GNR in the fall of 2017, I don't recall having an issue with getting tickets face value at a good price. I was on the TicketMaster website for 1.5 hours today trying to get tickets for my brother and I to see Rage Against the Machine. When my turn came to buy tickets, I saw the cheapest ticket at face value for $256 in the upper levels without fees. I decided to close the window and not buy it. I tried to get tickets last month for Pearl Jam. The cheapest seat was at $400 and I decided against that.

You may  want to take your daughter to the MetLife show since the prices are within reason. I paid $130 total with fees for Section  227A. The past two seasons, I have bought NY Giants tickets in this area. It's a VERY nice view.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GypsySoul on February 13, 2020, 09:44:31 PM
Jarmo, where are you going to see GNR on this upcoming tour? I'm going to see GNR at MetLife, my third time seeing them, can't wait.

I'm hesitant to answer for him, but...since he's working for them as their photographer (and maybe other job duties we don't know about when on tour), I'd assume he'll be at most (if not every) show.

@pilferk ... next time you feel hesitant to answer for someone ... DON'T ANSWER FOR THEM!!!  :hihi:

This is NOT a picture of Jarmo.  It IS a picture of the GNR official photographer (from Kat's instagram page).
(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/c157.0.405.405a/76994598_158709135515611_4210416561726472497_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=JZtdo89D5n8AX8uhD3k&oh=af682e938ee1edb25ac49cfd1745bc10&oe=5E48197A)

P.S. @ pilferk:  I can certainly understand mistaking Jarmo's pics as done by a professional photographer.  : ok:
Jarmo's pics are AWESOME and it's great and appreciated that he shares them with us!!!  :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on February 13, 2020, 09:57:37 PM
Thanks for the update.  PS it would be nice to meet Jarmo in person at a concert.  Your website is very interesting and informative.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 14, 2020, 10:59:07 AM
Thank you!

Maybe I'll see you in NJ!  :)



Oh and the photographing is a hobby which I enjoy..... But as pointed above I'm not the band's official photographer. That's Kat. :)



/jarmo







Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on February 16, 2020, 07:56:07 AM
Thank you!

Maybe I'll see you in NJ!  :)



Oh and the photographing is a hobby which I enjoy..... But as pointed above I'm not the band's official photographer. That's Kat. :)



/jarmo







Did you think at all about doing some prints of them, for those of us on here that wanted them? I'd definitely be keen to have a couple of pictures from shows I've attended....


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 16, 2020, 08:58:12 AM
I haven't thought about it. Yet....




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on February 16, 2020, 09:20:36 AM
I haven't thought about it. Yet....




/jarmo

Consider the seed of thought sown! haha!

Personally I think it would be cool- maybe for forum users, if there's an issue with money or stuff could do it on a pat-charity basis, whatever. I don't know the logistics/practicalities of this stuff!

Anyway - great photos!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: The Wight Gunner on February 16, 2020, 10:21:21 AM
I haven't thought about it. Yet....




/jarmo

Consider the seed of thought sown! haha!
l if he did
Personally I think it would be cool- maybe for forum users, if there's an issue with money or stuff could do it on a pat-charity basis, whatever. I don't know the logistics/practicalities of this stuff!

Anyway - great photos!
I'd have thought band wouldn't want them released commercially, might get sued by Axl if he did... :hihi:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 16, 2020, 11:19:05 AM
Anyway - great photos!


Thanks! :)




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on February 16, 2020, 07:33:08 PM
How long have you been taking pictures of the band? They are always nice! Maybe take some pictures of the upcoming tour!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 17, 2020, 05:39:46 AM
About ten years.

They're all here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnrtour/



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Chandler on February 17, 2020, 09:03:42 AM
Any chance you will do another tour diary Jarmo? I really enjoyed reading those   :peace:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on February 17, 2020, 09:18:47 AM
Really nice pictures, thank you!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 17, 2020, 10:13:22 AM
Thanks, glad you like them!  :)



Any chance you will do another tour diary Jarmo? I really enjoyed reading those   :peace:

It's possible. Let's see....



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on March 09, 2020, 07:50:32 AM
Getting concerned that the tour might get cancelled due to the coronavirus. We have 4 cases in MD and most States are reporting the virus.  Hopefully things will get better.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: DeN on March 09, 2020, 11:24:48 AM

yeah I was going to ask if there's any impact with the covid-19,
depends of the countries and their policies I suppose


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Natalie on March 09, 2020, 02:59:52 PM
Thousands of cases in Europe.
Sports & music events, conferences etc are getting cancelled.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on March 09, 2020, 04:28:04 PM
....and the band send this out. I'm astonished.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9hjtiHn-Ub/


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Natalie on March 09, 2020, 04:30:31 PM
....and the band send this out. I'm astonished.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9hjtiHn-Ub/

yeah, bad humor , people are dying  :o


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on March 09, 2020, 04:34:10 PM
....and the band send this out. I'm astonished.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9hjtiHn-Ub/

yeah, bad humor , people are dying  :o

I've no idea who handles their social media for them, but I think they've made a really big error of judgement with that.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sofine11 on March 09, 2020, 05:04:03 PM
....and the band send this out. I'm astonished.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9hjtiHn-Ub/

yeah, bad humor , people are dying  :o

I've no idea who handles their social media for them, but I think they've made a really big error of judgement with that.

You mean GNR is being completely tone deaf on their social media?! No, never.  ::)


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kunzerd on March 09, 2020, 07:10:52 PM
....and the band send this out. I'm astonished.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9hjtiHn-Ub/

yeah, bad humor , people are dying  :o

I've no idea who handles their social media for them, but I think they've made a really big error of judgement with that.

You mean GNR is being completely tone deaf on their social media?! No, never.  ::)

We’re so easily offended anymore. It could just be a cheeky way of reminding people to use caution. But I could be wrong, maybe we aren’t supposed to think before we react.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on March 09, 2020, 07:15:40 PM
....and the band send this out. I'm astonished.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9hjtiHn-Ub/

yeah, bad humor , people are dying  :o

I've no idea who handles their social media for them, but I think they've made a really big error of judgement with that.

You mean GNR is being completely tone deaf on their social media?! No, never.  ::)

We’re so easily offended anymore. It could just be a cheeky way of reminding people to use caution. But I could be wrong, maybe we aren’t supposed to think before we react.

I'm not sure those affected by this want something 'cheeky' though around this issue. I'm really, really not easily offended....but I think this is pretty insensitive.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on March 09, 2020, 07:34:14 PM
Gotta relax
This is basically them saying they are as helpless as the rest of us with this crazy virus -


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on March 09, 2020, 08:39:23 PM
I thought it was a good message.  GNR who are normally seen as defiant aren't being defiant with this and are masking up.  Stating, like the rest of us, we need a vaccine.  I see it as supportive.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: ITARocker on March 10, 2020, 03:42:10 AM
There's nothing wrong in this message... ironical and stating the truth.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Six Strings on March 10, 2020, 03:44:43 AM
Of course there's nothing wrong. I find it supportive as well.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Natalie on March 10, 2020, 10:17:07 AM
My guess is both Europe and USA will get cancelled.
It might be still relatively contained in the States but it will eventually spread everywhere like fire over the next two months.
It is inevitable, you can't effectively ban people from travelling or going to their work etc...


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: westcoast_junkie on March 10, 2020, 11:21:49 AM
Yeah, my guess also...maybe they'll get more studio-time? Can we expect a tripple-album by the end of the year?  ;D


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Oliver on March 10, 2020, 11:39:20 AM
Pearl Jam just cancelled their tour...


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sofine11 on March 10, 2020, 12:02:36 PM
Yeah, my guess also...maybe they'll get more studio-time? Can we expect a tripple-album by the end of the year?  ;D

3 hour meeting to figure out how music releases work in 2020 STARTS NOW!!!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Ginger King on March 10, 2020, 12:20:27 PM
Yeah, my guess also...maybe they'll get more studio-time? Can we expect a tripple-album by the end of the year?  ;D

3 hour meeting to figure out how music releases work in 2020 STARTS NOW!!!

I hope someone is looking very serious at what to do in that regard!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sofine11 on March 10, 2020, 12:30:33 PM
Yeah, my guess also...maybe they'll get more studio-time? Can we expect a tripple-album by the end of the year?  ;D

3 hour meeting to figure out how music releases work in 2020 STARTS NOW!!!

I hope someone is looking very serious at what to do in that regard!

I'm sure it will be top priority after they wrap up the next tour leg.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on March 10, 2020, 12:31:57 PM
Pearl Jam just cancelled their tour...

Actually it was the first leg and the spring dates. The virus, like the flu, pretty much does off in the summer so I doubt it will be much more than that.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on March 10, 2020, 01:42:38 PM
I have a backup plan.  Who wouldn't want to be quarantined with GNR? 

Put the band in the rehearsal studio, play us some songs, talk a little bit about about the music.  I'm locked down at home.  I'd pay to watch that on the net, probably every show.  Up close and personal with GNR, everybody wants a chance at that.  Not paying VIP prices but I'd buy if the price was right.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on March 10, 2020, 01:43:21 PM
Pearl Jam just cancelled their tour...

Actually it was the first leg and the spring dates. The virus, like the flu, pretty much does off in the summer so I doubt it will be much more than that.

How do you know the virus dies off in the summer? It hasn't been around for a summer yet! We're in un-chartered territory.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on March 10, 2020, 01:44:23 PM
I have a backup plan.  Who wouldn't want to be quarantined with GNR? 

Put the band in the rehearsal studio, play us some songs, talk a little bit about about the music.  I'm locked down at home.  I'd pay to watch that on the net, probably every show.  Up close and personal with GNR, everybody wants a chance at that.  Not paying VIP prices but I'd buy if the price was right.

Sure - ideal! They could stream a concert for everyone to watch as part of it. At this point, that would seem the most sensible thing to do in my view.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on March 10, 2020, 02:09:49 PM
I have a backup plan.  Who wouldn't want to be quarantined with GNR? 

Put the band in the rehearsal studio, play us some songs, talk a little bit about about the music.  I'm locked down at home.  I'd pay to watch that on the net, probably every show.  Up close and personal with GNR, everybody wants a chance at that.  Not paying VIP prices but I'd buy if the price was right.

Nice brainstorm - would be great


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: outlawaxl on March 11, 2020, 03:36:40 PM
My guess is both Europe and USA will get cancelled.
It might be still relatively contained in the States but it will eventually spread everywhere like fire over the next two months.
It is inevitable, you can't effectively ban people from travelling or going to their work etc...

Pure speculation.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Spirit on March 11, 2020, 04:37:10 PM
I have a backup plan.  Who wouldn't want to be quarantined with GNR? 

Put the band in the rehearsal studio, play us some songs, talk a little bit about about the music.  I'm locked down at home.  I'd pay to watch that on the net, probably every show.  Up close and personal with GNR, everybody wants a chance at that.  Not paying VIP prices but I'd buy if the price was right.

I like the idea. If this situation is a more long term thing... release the album and do something like this - playing the new stuff.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kyrie on March 11, 2020, 04:50:29 PM
My guess is both Europe and USA will get cancelled.
It might be still relatively contained in the States but it will eventually spread everywhere like fire over the next two months.
It is inevitable, you can't effectively ban people from travelling or going to their work etc...

Pure speculation.

That's kind of the point though. We can't do any more than speculate, employ some models, and try to sleuth out how the virus may spread. In the meantime, seems pretty reasonable to push dates back.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Natalie on March 11, 2020, 09:31:20 PM
My guess is both Europe and USA will get cancelled.
It might be still relatively contained in the States but it will eventually spread everywhere like fire over the next two months.
It is inevitable, you can't effectively ban people from travelling or going to their work etc...

Pure speculation.

I said "my guess is". And by the way Trump just banned all flights to/from Europe for 1 month 


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kyrie on March 12, 2020, 05:19:11 AM
Costa Rica postponed. Brazil is banning public events.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: outlawaxl on March 12, 2020, 08:22:45 AM
My guess is both Europe and USA will get cancelled.
It might be still relatively contained in the States but it will eventually spread everywhere like fire over the next two months.
It is inevitable, you can't effectively ban people from travelling or going to their work etc...

Pure speculation.

I said "my guess is". And by the way Trump just banned all flights to/from Europe for 1 month 

"All flights to/from Europe" Not true at all.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on March 12, 2020, 02:50:28 PM
I have a backup plan.  Who wouldn't want to be quarantined with GNR? 

Put the band in the rehearsal studio, play us some songs, talk a little bit about about the music.  I'm locked down at home.  I'd pay to watch that on the net, probably every show.  Up close and personal with GNR, everybody wants a chance at that.  Not paying VIP prices but I'd buy if the price was right.

Nice brainstorm - would be great

It keeps the band active and pulling in some money.  Doesn't help all those businesses that were making money off the shows.  I probably wouldn't buy any merch.  A little something to get everybody through.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on March 12, 2020, 03:34:20 PM
I have a backup plan.  Who wouldn't want to be quarantined with GNR? 

Put the band in the rehearsal studio, play us some songs, talk a little bit about about the music.  I'm locked down at home.  I'd pay to watch that on the net, probably every show.  Up close and personal with GNR, everybody wants a chance at that.  Not paying VIP prices but I'd buy if the price was right.

Nice brainstorm - would be great

It keeps the band active and pulling in some money.  Doesn't help all those businesses that were making money off the shows.  I probably wouldn't buy any merch.  A little something to get everybody through.

In some ways - as the crazier this virus situation gets - it would be almost fitting for them to drop something for us during


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on March 12, 2020, 06:54:26 PM
I have a backup plan.  Who wouldn't want to be quarantined with GNR? 

Put the band in the rehearsal studio, play us some songs, talk a little bit about about the music.  I'm locked down at home.  I'd pay to watch that on the net, probably every show.  Up close and personal with GNR, everybody wants a chance at that.  Not paying VIP prices but I'd buy if the price was right.

Nice brainstorm - would be great

It keeps the band active and pulling in some money.  Doesn't help all those businesses that were making money off the shows.  I probably wouldn't buy any merch.  A little something to get everybody through.

In some ways - as the crazier this virus situation gets - it would be almost fitting for them to drop something for us during

How would they move it?  Going to have to be net driven because going to the store is out. 

Going to be a lot of net activity if everybody is home.  Will we be nice to each other or are we going to kill each other with words?  :hihi:  Might get suicidal if my computer gets a virus.  :hihi:

Just trying to keep my sense of humor through all of this, take care.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on March 12, 2020, 07:11:27 PM
I have a backup plan.  Who wouldn't want to be quarantined with GNR? 

Put the band in the rehearsal studio, play us some songs, talk a little bit about about the music.  I'm locked down at home.  I'd pay to watch that on the net, probably every show.  Up close and personal with GNR, everybody wants a chance at that.  Not paying VIP prices but I'd buy if the price was right.

Nice brainstorm - would be great

It keeps the band active and pulling in some money.  Doesn't help all those businesses that were making money off the shows.  I probably wouldn't buy any merch.  A little something to get everybody through.

In some ways - as the crazier this virus situation gets - it would be almost fitting for them to drop something for us during

How would they move it?  Going to have to be net driven because going to the store is out. 

Going to be a lot of net activity if everybody is home.  Will we be nice to each other or are we going to kill each other with words?  :hihi:  Might get suicidal if my computer gets a virus.  :hihi:

Just trying to keep my sense of humor through all of this, take care.

All good brother -







Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on March 13, 2020, 06:21:35 AM

How would they move it?  Going to have to be net driven because going to the store is out.  

Going to be a lot of net activity if everybody is home.  Will we be nice to each other or are we going to kill each other with words?  :hihi:  Might get suicidal if my computer gets a virus.  :hihi:

Just trying to keep my sense of humor through all of this, take care.

Digital sales and music streams have made up a good chunk, if not the bulk, of revenue for the past few years.  And the biggest physical sales retailers are Amazon and Walmart....both of which still offer 2 day (and in some cases next day) delivery.

A physical edition, for those that want it, could still be bought (somewhat ironically) online.  

And the marketing for an album would be almost entirely over the airwaves and online, anyway.  You'd get youtube and twitch ads, plus block ads on web pages.  You hope the single makes it onto stream lists, etc.  That's the reality of marketing today, anyway.  The standees, endcaps, premium eye level shelf space, and such at brick and mortar retail just don't have the effect they used to.

All that being said: I do think releasing it during the height of the pandemic might give you pause.  First, it might not be a great look...there's going to be a wide ranging economic effect and you have to take that into consideration on many fronts.  Second, you don't want the promo for the album/single/new music to get totally lost, as background noise, in all the virus discussion.  And finally....until this wraps up...one of the best ways to promo this material and get the word out is to play it live for some folks and let them start talking about it.  That's just not going to happen until the pandemic starts to wane.

The flip side to that is: You have a LOT of people who are going to be self isolating and, as you point out, they are going to be using their screens to pass the time.  LOT of content consumption going to be going on over the next 6 to 8 weeks or so.......


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on March 13, 2020, 01:25:05 PM
There is going to be a lot of noise on the net even with the political push coming soon in the US.  I would think GNR has some plan to address marketing on the net already in place.  They may see the increased traffic as an opportunity to push things out.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: LunsJail on April 07, 2020, 11:51:17 AM
I hate to be pessimistic but.....does anyone think there is a chance these stadium dates will be held this summer?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on April 07, 2020, 01:35:37 PM
No.

I'm kind of wondering just how fucked GNR is.  They had 3 big tours lined up.  That has to mean they had a lot of cash out to air travel, shipping, hotels, a whole new show, etc.  They are probably cash poor with bills due.  They are going to have a hard time recovering from this.  Couldn't have hit at a worse time.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on April 07, 2020, 01:47:07 PM
There's a better chance of hell freezing over before I post this then any concert happening this summer. This fall if we're lucky.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: LunsJail on April 07, 2020, 02:28:17 PM
There's a better chance of hell freezing over before I post this then any concert happening this summer. This fall if we're lucky.

I think they're going to run into a slew of conflicts trying to reschedule in the fall. Baseball is now talking about playing until late November but I could also see their whole season getting scrapped if they can only play a month or two of games. I agree that I don't see events happening in arenas or stadiums any time this summer. It would take literally one person coming out of an event and testing positive for the virus to put us right back where we are.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on April 07, 2020, 04:28:58 PM
There's a better chance of hell freezing over before I post this then any concert happening this summer. This fall if we're lucky.

I think they're going to run into a slew of conflicts trying to reschedule in the fall. Baseball is now talking about playing until late November but I could also see their whole season getting scrapped if they can only play a month or two of games. I agree that I don't see events happening in arenas or stadiums any time this summer. It would take literally one person coming out of an event and testing positive for the virus to put us right back where we are.

At this point I hope they scrap the baseball season. Playing a bummer of months without a crowd would be weird. I hope the NBA NHL get to finish at least. It would be a shame to have played all those games for nothing. Summer is totally out for any left gatherings. We need to do this social distancing at least through May, even though the president and surgeon general at saying the if April but all experts are saying through May. Just look at Wuhan where this started. They just started opening up after 11 weeks and reported no deaths yesterday for the first time since January. A lot of states aren't even close to their peaks. It's gonna take about month or two. States like New York and Louisiana are just not starting to see a glimmer of hope. So I see no reality these stadium shows don't get pushed to summer 2021.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on April 07, 2020, 08:39:30 PM
Motley Crue looks like their going to cancel their tour, I wonder if GNR will give an update on their tour. My personal thoughts are the European and North American tours get postponed to next year. I just can't see the venues being safe to go to, it's going to take at least to the fall before all the hot spots calm down. See what happens.. : :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on April 07, 2020, 09:27:50 PM
Motley Crue looks like their going to cancel their tour, I wonder if GNR will give an update on their tour. My personal thoughts are the European and North American tours get postponed to next year. I just can't see the venues being safe to go to, it's going to take at least to the fall before all the hot spots calm down. See what happens.. : :beer:

Many of the Europe shows can't happen by law now. Austria for example, and here in the UK we'll still be on lockdown.

I'm at a loss as to why ticket sales haven't at least been stopped for the time being.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on April 08, 2020, 07:29:09 AM
Rescheduling all these tours for fall or next year is fine new a giant cluster fuck. Especially stadium and arena shows in the USA.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: LunsJail on April 08, 2020, 10:56:36 AM
There's a better chance of hell freezing over before I post this then any concert happening this summer. This fall if we're lucky.

I think they're going to run into a slew of conflicts trying to reschedule in the fall. Baseball is now talking about playing until late November but I could also see their whole season getting scrapped if they can only play a month or two of games. I agree that I don't see events happening in arenas or stadiums any time this summer. It would take literally one person coming out of an event and testing positive for the virus to put us right back where we are.

At this point I hope they scrap the baseball season. Playing a bummer of months without a crowd would be weird. I hope the NBA NHL get to finish at least. It would be a shame to have played all those games for nothing. Summer is totally out for any left gatherings. We need to do this social distancing at least through May, even though the president and surgeon general at saying the if April but all experts are saying through May. Just look at Wuhan where this started. They just started opening up after 11 weeks and reported no deaths yesterday for the first time since January. A lot of states aren't even close to their peaks. It's gonna take about month or two. States like New York and Louisiana are just not starting to see a glimmer of hope. So I see no reality these stadium shows don't get pushed to summer 2021.

I agree on the baseball season.  I know they're trying to squeeze out some TV revenue but I question the overall gain of putting out a subpar viewing product for a few months.

Back on topic, I hope the GNR tour can retain the Pumpkins as opener when/if it's rescheduled. I was looking forward to them too, just because I haven't seen them before.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on April 08, 2020, 12:48:52 PM
No.

I'm kind of wondering just how fucked GNR is.  They had 3 big tours lined up.  That has to mean they had a lot of cash out to air travel, shipping, hotels, a whole new show, etc.  They are probably cash poor with bills due.  They are going to have a hard time recovering from this.  Couldn't have hit at a worse time.

What are you talking about? All that shit is either insured or refundable. They're not fucked at all. They might have some rescheduling conflicts next year but they won't lose money on air travel, hotels, etc.

Hell, I'm just a regular person and I've been reimbursed for various hotels and flights for concerts, a bachelor party and a wedding I was supposed to attend. I suspect a corporate entity like GnR has some serious insurance - and that's if they didn't purchase refundable tickets, which I suspect they did.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on April 08, 2020, 02:24:21 PM
No.

I'm kind of wondering just how fucked GNR is.  They had 3 big tours lined up.  That has to mean they had a lot of cash out to air travel, shipping, hotels, a whole new show, etc.  They are probably cash poor with bills due.  They are going to have a hard time recovering from this.  Couldn't have hit at a worse time.

What are you talking about? All that shit is either insured or refundable. They're not fucked at all. They might have some rescheduling conflicts next year but they won't lose money on air travel, hotels, etc.

Hell, I'm just a regular person and I've been reimbursed for various hotels and flights for concerts, a bachelor party and a wedding I was supposed to attend. I suspect a corporate entity like GnR has some serious insurance - and that's if they didn't purchase refundable tickets, which I suspect they did.


.....not to mention the fact they're hardly on the bread-line to begin with!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on April 08, 2020, 02:57:44 PM
No.

I'm kind of wondering just how fucked GNR is.  They had 3 big tours lined up.  That has to mean they had a lot of cash out to air travel, shipping, hotels, a whole new show, etc.  They are probably cash poor with bills due.  They are going to have a hard time recovering from this.  Couldn't have hit at a worse time.

What are you talking about? All that shit is either insured or refundable. They're not fucked at all. They might have some rescheduling conflicts next year but they won't lose money on air travel, hotels, etc.

Hell, I'm just a regular person and I've been reimbursed for various hotels and flights for concerts, a bachelor party and a wedding I was supposed to attend. I suspect a corporate entity like GnR has some serious insurance - and that's if they didn't purchase refundable tickets, which I suspect they did.

I don't know what I'm talking about.  ;D  I figure some of that is insurable but the tours weren't cancelled they were postponed.  Those countries they had flights to and hotel rooms booked were not closed or will be open at some point maybe with no concerts being allowed.  Will those businesses let them cancel and get their deposit back?  There's stuff booked that probably won't happen but is the money still tied up?  Where is the stage?  Was it shipped?  Is it some where in storage or on it's way back?  Are people on retainer?  If they don't lose the money is it still being held by somebody else?  What was the outlay for "a whole new show"?  How much did they spend just getting ready for these tours and now have to pay people to set all that up again.

They've lost money and have money tied up is how I see it.  You're an individual, it cost you something when all that was cancelled.  New clothes, gifts, credit card payments.  It cost you something.  And you can cancel because you are one.  They are many and they made deposits.  GNR is a big business, still in business with no cash coming in.  Do they even qualify for any of those business loans from the government when they were operating their business out of the country?  They're paying somebody to figure that out right now.

But I don't know their financial situation.  We see the gross these tours produce but have no idea what the net, after the bills are paid, is.  We have no idea how much the business had in reserve to start up again and what they were counting on to keep it going.  Individually, the band members are probably freaking like everybody else over their investments.  The option of individuals to help the business if it is in trouble may also be limited.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kunzerd on April 08, 2020, 03:49:38 PM
No.

I'm kind of wondering just how fucked GNR is.  They had 3 big tours lined up.  That has to mean they had a lot of cash out to air travel, shipping, hotels, a whole new show, etc.  They are probably cash poor with bills due.  They are going to have a hard time recovering from this.  Couldn't have hit at a worse time.

What are you talking about? All that shit is either insured or refundable. They're not fucked at all. They might have some rescheduling conflicts next year but they won't lose money on air travel, hotels, etc.

Hell, I'm just a regular person and I've been reimbursed for various hotels and flights for concerts, a bachelor party and a wedding I was supposed to attend. I suspect a corporate entity like GnR has some serious insurance - and that's if they didn't purchase refundable tickets, which I suspect they did.

I don't know what I'm talking about.  ;D  I figure some of that is insurable but the tours weren't cancelled they were postponed.  Those countries they had flights to and hotel rooms booked were not closed or will be open at some point maybe with no concerts being allowed.  Will those businesses let them cancel and get their deposit back?  There's stuff booked that probably won't happen but is the money still tied up?  Where is the stage?  Was it shipped?  Is it some where in storage or on it's way back?  Are people on retainer?  If they don't lose the money is it still being held by somebody else?  What was the outlay for "a whole new show"?  How much did they spend just getting ready for these tours and now have to pay people to set all that up again.

They've lost money and have money tied up is how I see it.  You're an individual, it cost you something when all that was cancelled.  New clothes, gifts, credit card payments.  It cost you something.  And you can cancel because you are one.  They are many and they made deposits.  GNR is a big business, still in business with no cash coming in.  Do they even qualify for any of those business loans from the government when they were operating their business out of the country?  They're paying somebody to figure that out right now.

But I don't know their financial situation.  We see the gross these tours produce but have no idea what the net, after the bills are paid, is.  We have no idea how much the business had in reserve to start up again and what they were counting on to keep it going.  Individually, the band members are probably freaking like everybody else over their investments.  The option of individuals to help the business if it is in trouble may also be limited.


I can’t remember where I read it exactly, but I did see something about how some of the insurance companies saying that the policies didn’t cover covid, so there’s a bit of an issue if there is a payout or not, and that’s making some of the tour rescheduling for some acts a pain to figure out.

Side note, they postponed the roger waters tour until next year, I’m hoping he lives long enough to follow through, but depending on the election he might have to totally rethink his theme. Ha. 


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on April 09, 2020, 03:35:14 PM
I'm guessing we won't hear about a postponment untill May for the European tour and July for the North American tour dates. The corona virus will peak in late April in the USA but will take untill August to completely calm down.  I'm thinking the European and North American tours will be postponed to next year.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on April 10, 2020, 01:50:25 PM
Duff has something to say about it.  Big financial picture to be concerned about.  Not surprised GNR members are trying to take care of the GNR family and putting what they've got into it.  Not sure which pot of money that's coming out of but looking out for the ones they can.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gnrs_duff_mckagan_addresses_financial_side_of_lockdown_we_have_80_people_on_crew_were_terrified_about_right_now.html


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 20, 2020, 02:50:17 PM
Some of the North American GN'R shows are now starting to be labeled as Postponed on Ticketmaster.




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jordans on May 20, 2020, 03:33:21 PM
I just got an email from the Fargodome that the tour is postponed.  Their refund policy is:

Once a new date is announced, you will have 30 days to request a refund.

If a new date is not announced within 60 days, you will have 30 days to request a refund at that time.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: C0ma on May 20, 2020, 04:56:07 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10158514265598069&set=a.355783028068 (https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10158514265598069&set=a.355783028068)

GN'R Fam, some news: the North American tour is being rescheduled out of an abundance of caution. We will share the updated schedule as soon as the dates are finalized & all tickets will be honored accordingly.

If you are a ticket holder and would prefer a refund, please visit livenation.com/refund for your options.

Thank you for your understanding during this time as we look forward to coming back together very soon. #GnFnR


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on May 20, 2020, 09:44:54 PM
Glad they postponed the tour, just have to see when I get a refund :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: 123191 on May 20, 2020, 10:51:15 PM
Glad they postponed the tour, just have to see when I get a refund :beer:

30 day window opens either 60 days from today (if they haven't announced new dates) or when they announce new dates.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on May 21, 2020, 11:27:25 PM
I will keep my tickets assuming the rescheduled dates come out soon. Not gonna wait 60 days or more. to much money invested


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on May 23, 2020, 01:54:55 PM
I will keep my tickets assuming the rescheduled dates come out soon. Not gonna wait 60 days or more. to much money invested
If you read the refund rules you don't have a choice.. It says if the date is rescheduled in less than 60 days you have 30 days from then to decide. If it isn't rescheduled in 60 days then the 30 days starts then. Basically we gotta wait until the new date is announced or 60 days pass. Very shitty policy by livenation imo for people who need money NOW.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on May 23, 2020, 08:08:53 PM
Hopefully they reschedule the tour for next summer :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 01, 2020, 12:10:15 AM
Hopefully they reschedule the tour for next summer :beer:
things are starting to open up more and more. why not try to do this in the fall? instead of waiting til next year


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on June 01, 2020, 12:13:03 AM
opening up doesn't equal safe for 50k in a stadium. Most states are still going up in new cases.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 01, 2020, 12:18:11 AM
I mean start late August through November. we are starting up local concerts here in mid July. covid isn't what they said it is. the new distraction is racial division and riots since people are waking up to the covid hoopla. I don't want to get political on here but damn


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: PermissionToLand on June 01, 2020, 03:07:02 AM
I mean start late August through November. we are starting up local concerts here in mid July. covid isn't what they said it is. the new distraction is racial division and riots since people are waking up to the covid hoopla. I don't want to get political on here but damn

 "I don't want to get political on here but damn if anything will stop me from doing it?"

Yeah, the American people are waking up to your "hoopla". A bunch of babies storm the Michigan state house with guns crying "tyranny" over masks but are nowhere to be found when actual state-sanctioned tyranny breaks out. Spare us your excuses.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on June 01, 2020, 04:32:02 AM
I mean start late August through November. we are starting up local concerts here in mid July. covid isn't what they said it is. the new distraction is racial division and riots since people are waking up to the covid hoopla. I don't want to get political on here but damn

 "I don't want to get political on here but damn if anything will stop me from doing it?"

Yeah, the American people are waking up to your "hoopla". A bunch of babies storm the Michigan state house with guns crying "tyranny" over masks but are nowhere to be found when actual state-sanctioned tyranny breaks out. Spare us your excuses.

I guess to some people 106k and counting dead is hoopla. Imagine how much more it would be without all the mitigation we've done.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: LunsJail on June 01, 2020, 10:28:36 AM
50k people in a stadium is a nightmare scenario when it comes to mitigating the spread of the virus. We'll be damn lucky if we're going to these concerts next summer.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: C0ma on June 01, 2020, 10:29:32 AM
I mean start late August through November. we are starting up local concerts here in mid July. covid isn't what they said it is. the new distraction is racial division and riots since people are waking up to the covid hoopla. I don't want to get political on here but damn

 "I don't want to get political on here but damn if anything will stop me from doing it?"

Yeah, the American people are waking up to your "hoopla". A bunch of babies storm the Michigan state house with guns crying "tyranny" over masks but are nowhere to be found when actual state-sanctioned tyranny breaks out. Spare us your excuses.

I guess to some people 106k and counting dead is hoopla. Imagine how much more it would be without all the mitigation we've done.

Not to down play it but 106k people is .031% of the US population. 54k American's die every month from Heart Disease, that translates to nearly 650k people a year. Should we ban french fries because people aren't smart enough to take care of themselves? We needed to flatten the curve, we did, they need to speed up the re-open. You can't cripple the economy over this. MA for example has had 6300 COVID "related" deaths, of those 90% were over the age of 60.

In GA the # of COVID cases has plateaued since reopening. Yet 26 million people have filled for unemployment because most of the country shut down. 26 million people! 100k dead, 26 million unemployed.

It will be interesting to see if protest crowds larger than concerts or sports events lead to spike's in COVID cases.

 


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on June 01, 2020, 10:46:31 AM
As far as I know, you don't catch heart disease from people around you.

There's been examples where public gatherings did cause spread of the disease. Football games, other sports events, family gatherings and so on.


No matter how much you want the economy to reopen, most bands won't start touring next month.




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: C0ma on June 01, 2020, 11:15:09 AM
As far as I know, you don't catch heart disease from people around you.

There's been examples where public gatherings did cause spread of the disease. Football games, other sports events, family gatherings and so on.


No matter how much you want the economy to reopen, most bands won't start touring next month.

/jarmo


I'm well aware that 55,000 people shouldn't be shoulder to shoulder in a Stadium in July. I have no issues with my Boston concert being postponed. My issue is that reality lies somewhere between crashing the economy and business as usual. The US is doing things state by state, in MA there is almost nothing open unless hanging out at Target is your idea of a good time.

In all seriousness though there haven't been many vaccines for similar corona (crown like) viruses. If no safe vaccine is developed do we just fold up shop and give up on life as we knew it? We didn't do this in 2009 for H1N1 where the CDC estimates between 150-500K people died in that first season.

ANYWAY... I went way off topic here. The US Tour was rightly postponed and hopefully we all regroup for an amazing 2021 with the possibility of some new music too. for now lets just sit back and enjoy Axl's twitter.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on June 01, 2020, 12:53:35 PM
50k people in a stadium is a nightmare scenario when it comes to mitigating the spread of the virus. We'll be damn lucky if we're going to these concerts next summer.

By next summer, given the data I've seen, we will LIKELY have a vaccine (especially for high risk populations) and/or more effective treatments to lower the mortality rate.

Nothing is for sure, but I suspect we'll be OK for a summer tour next year.

AND, if there were an ability to have 50k people in one place this fall/winter, those stadiums would be getting used for football.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on June 01, 2020, 12:58:40 PM
Not to down play it but 106k people is .031% of the US population. 54k American's die every month from Heart Disease, that translates to nearly 650k people a year. Should we ban french fries because people aren't smart enough to take care of themselves? We needed to flatten the curve, we did, they need to speed up the re-open. You can't cripple the economy over this. MA for example has had 6300 COVID "related" deaths, of those 90% were over the age of 60.

In GA the # of COVID cases has plateaued since reopening. Yet 26 million people have filled for unemployment because most of the country shut down. 26 million people! 100k dead, 26 million unemployed.

It will be interesting to see if protest crowds larger than concerts or sports events lead to spike's in COVID cases.

 
'

That's like saying "no offense...but".....

You are literally rationalizing death totals (over a 3 month period, not a year) and then playing a game of whataboutism with them.

You ARE downplaying the loss of those 100+k lives, and trying to trivialize them.

You seriously want to be that person, just to try to score political points on a message board topic about the 2020 tour?

No offense , but...Blech.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on June 01, 2020, 01:04:28 PM
As far as I know, you don't catch heart disease from people around you.

There's been examples where public gatherings did cause spread of the disease. Football games, other sports events, family gatherings and so on.


No matter how much you want the economy to reopen, most bands won't start touring next month.

/jarmo


Exactly this.  It's a terrible analogy and "whataboutism" that ignores the actual human toll this virus has taken...even WITH the measures that were taken. Comparing a communicable disease to any other type of malady is irresponsible and ridiculous.  And minimizing the lives of the old and immunocompromised feels pretty icky to me.

We discussed this before in the ACTUAL COVID thread in the Jungle: If the measures worked, everyone who said they were necessary was wrong, because the numbers weren't as bad as initially projected.  If they didn't, everyone who said they were necessary were wrong, because the numbers were just as bad as initially projected.

Might I suggest this conversation get taken to the Jungle, where it might fit better?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on June 01, 2020, 09:11:33 PM
Motley Crue has pushed their tour back to the summer of 2021.  I hope GNR does the same, by then hopefully there will be a vaccine.  See what happens  :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on June 02, 2020, 03:09:51 AM
Motley Crue has pushed their tour back to the summer of 2021.  I hope GNR does the same, by then hopefully there will be a vaccine.  See what happens  :beer:

It was inevitable, i am surprised they waited so long. They were the last big tour to cancel i believe.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on June 04, 2020, 11:21:28 AM
SummerFest in Milwaukee was first postponed to September and now canceled.

After careful, diligent, and thoughtful consideration and out of an abundance of caution for the health and safety of our community,  Summerfest presented by @amfam
 will not take place as previously announced. Full statement, refunds, 2020 ticket page: https://www.summerfest.com/2020-ticket-refund-information/





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on June 04, 2020, 11:49:35 AM
Thanks for the update :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jordans on June 04, 2020, 05:46:39 PM
I mean start late August through November. we are starting up local concerts here in mid July. covid isn't what they said it is. the new distraction is racial division and riots since people are waking up to the covid hoopla. I don't want to get political on here but damn

I don't want to go to an outdoor stadium show in November.  I may not be able to cross the border still at that time. 

I wish they would outright cancel.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on June 05, 2020, 12:24:56 AM
They will definitely reschedule for next summer, even if they deemed it safe in the fall for a stadium full of people you gotta consider the weather. Would you wanna go to a concert in a snow storm or ice storm?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on June 13, 2020, 11:11:20 AM
Anymore updates for the tour? :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 18, 2020, 12:57:06 PM
Anymore updates for the tour? :beer:
I am wondering the same!!! Motley Crue just announced rescheduled dates for next year. hopefully we get the same sooner than later


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on June 18, 2020, 01:34:13 PM
hopefully we get the same sooner than later


Hope so.

There's two tours that need to be rescheduled. Not just the North American leg, but also the European one.




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on June 18, 2020, 02:26:58 PM
So, there's some interesting info out there right now that might be part of the issue with a delay in the information.

Apparently, LiveNation wants a 20% discount from the artists fees to reschedule dates for next year.

From what I'm hearing, that's leading to a LOT of extra time in this process, as negotiations are ongoing.

Edit: Here's the tip of the iceberg on this...

https://variety.com/2020/biz/news/live-nation-reduce-artist-payments-1234641466/


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on June 18, 2020, 08:39:54 PM
A lot of changes that are not favorable to the artist. Hopefully the South America tour goes off without a hitch.  Crazy times with the covid reappearing again in China.  Untill there is a vaccine I think most concerts will be postponed/cancelled. :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on June 19, 2020, 03:58:10 AM
And it is still raging in the states because many states didn't follow guidelines for reopening.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on June 19, 2020, 08:19:56 AM
So, there's some interesting info out there right now that might be part of the issue with a delay in the information.

Apparently, LiveNation wants a 20% discount from the artists fees to reschedule dates for next year.

From what I'm hearing, that's leading to a LOT of extra time in this process, as negotiations are ongoing.

Edit: Here's the tip of the iceberg on this...

https://variety.com/2020/biz/news/live-nation-reduce-artist-payments-1234641466/

There's a lot of extremely bad news for artists in there.

If they cancel they have to pay promoters twice their fee?! That'll lead to a lot of very shit concerts if things like illness or a band splitting up are included in that. Bands slogging on simply to avoid having to PAY the promoter not to play!

Ultimately, yet again, Live Nation are fucking over bands and ultimately fans even more it seems.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on June 19, 2020, 09:23:32 AM

There's a lot of extremely bad news for artists in there.

If they cancel they have to pay promoters twice their fee?! That'll lead to a lot of very shit concerts if things like illness or a band splitting up are included in that. Bands slogging on simply to avoid having to PAY the promoter not to play!

Ultimately, yet again, Live Nation are fucking over bands and ultimately fans even more it seems.

For awhile now, artists really make their money on the road.  The label system, and the move to digital, have completely screwed the artist when it comes to album sales.  They're just not that lucrative once the label is done carving out their piece of the pie.

So, albums are basically used to promote a tour, where the artists have gotten a much more fair shake.  Until, it appears, now.  Live Nation, after one "bad season", is crying poor and making artist hostile changes.  And THIS is the issue with having what amounts to a single vendor monopoly on booking large concert venues and ticket prices.

Note: Live Nation isn't intending to lower those ticket prices....they're just going to stuff the extra in their own pockets, instead of the artists.

Not. Cool. Where is Pearl Jam when you need them!!!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on June 19, 2020, 09:33:16 AM

There's a lot of extremely bad news for artists in there.

If they cancel they have to pay promoters twice their fee?! That'll lead to a lot of very shit concerts if things like illness or a band splitting up are included in that. Bands slogging on simply to avoid having to PAY the promoter not to play!

Ultimately, yet again, Live Nation are fucking over bands and ultimately fans even more it seems.

For awhile now, artists really make their money on the road.  The label system, and the move to digital, have completely screwed the artist when it comes to album sales.  They're just not that lucrative once the label is done carving out their piece of the pie.

So, albums are basically used to promote a tour, where the artists have gotten a much more fair shake.  Until, it appears, now.  Live Nation, after one "bad season", is crying poor and making artist hostile changes.  And THIS is the issue with having what amounts to a single vendor monopoly on booking large concert venues and ticket prices.

Note: Live Nation isn't intending to lower those ticket prices....they're just going to stuff the extra in their own pockets, instead of the artists.

Not. Cool. Where is Pearl Jam when you need them!!!

Couldn't agree more. That bit about "the promoter will set ticket prices" also means that musicians have zero say in what they're charging for tickets, meaning that the gap between when a musician is getting paid and the money made from ticket sales could widen massively. And if bands don't like the fee Live Nation are offering them, as you, say, what else can they do? There's a monopoly and it's 'play by our rules or don't play at all'.

People did warn of the risks of the Live Nation monopoly, and were largely ignored.



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on June 19, 2020, 11:33:59 PM

There's a lot of extremely bad news for artists in there.

If they cancel they have to pay promoters twice their fee?! That'll lead to a lot of very shit concerts if things like illness or a band splitting up are included in that. Bands slogging on simply to avoid having to PAY the promoter not to play!

Ultimately, yet again, Live Nation are fucking over bands and ultimately fans even more it seems.

For awhile now, artists really make their money on the road.  The label system, and the move to digital, have completely screwed the artist when it comes to album sales.  They're just not that lucrative once the label is done carving out their piece of the pie.

So, albums are basically used to promote a tour, where the artists have gotten a much more fair shake.  Until, it appears, now.  Live Nation, after one "bad season", is crying poor and making artist hostile changes.  And THIS is the issue with having what amounts to a single vendor monopoly on booking large concert venues and ticket prices.

Note: Live Nation isn't intending to lower those ticket prices....they're just going to stuff the extra in their own pockets, instead of the artists.

Not. Cool. Where is Pearl Jam when you need them!!!

Couldn't agree more. That bit about "the promoter will set ticket prices" also means that musicians have zero say in what they're charging for tickets, meaning that the gap between when a musician is getting paid and the money made from ticket sales could widen massively. And if bands don't like the fee Live Nation are offering them, as you, say, what else can they do? There's a monopoly and it's 'play by our rules or don't play at all'.

People did warn of the risks of the Live Nation monopoly, and were largely ignored.



So if the 2020 concert gets delayed to 2021 do they stay under the old contract or are they forced into the 2021 contract?  If they say fuck you and fuck your contracts was there penalties under the old contract that have to be paid?

I think Live Nation is pretty much the game if you want to play.  I wonder what the change is to the venues contracts?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on June 20, 2020, 07:03:53 AM

There's a lot of extremely bad news for artists in there.

If they cancel they have to pay promoters twice their fee?! That'll lead to a lot of very shit concerts if things like illness or a band splitting up are included in that. Bands slogging on simply to avoid having to PAY the promoter not to play!

Ultimately, yet again, Live Nation are fucking over bands and ultimately fans even more it seems.

For awhile now, artists really make their money on the road.  The label system, and the move to digital, have completely screwed the artist when it comes to album sales.  They're just not that lucrative once the label is done carving out their piece of the pie.

So, albums are basically used to promote a tour, where the artists have gotten a much more fair shake.  Until, it appears, now.  Live Nation, after one "bad season", is crying poor and making artist hostile changes.  And THIS is the issue with having what amounts to a single vendor monopoly on booking large concert venues and ticket prices.

Note: Live Nation isn't intending to lower those ticket prices....they're just going to stuff the extra in their own pockets, instead of the artists.

Not. Cool. Where is Pearl Jam when you need them!!!

Couldn't agree more. That bit about "the promoter will set ticket prices" also means that musicians have zero say in what they're charging for tickets, meaning that the gap between when a musician is getting paid and the money made from ticket sales could widen massively. And if bands don't like the fee Live Nation are offering them, as you, say, what else can they do? There's a monopoly and it's 'play by our rules or don't play at all'.

People did warn of the risks of the Live Nation monopoly, and were largely ignored.



So if the 2020 concert gets delayed to 2021 do they stay under the old contract or are they forced into the 2021 contract?  If they say fuck you and fuck your contracts was there penalties under the old contract that have to be paid?

I think Live Nation is pretty much the game if you want to play.  I wonder what the change is to the venues contracts?

I was wondering the same thing. Is it a case of 'same show, less money'? I think whatever is going on some sort of announcement needs to be made very soon. Pretty much every other band have announced their 2021 rescheduled dates now. Whether they're doing that under these new rules....who knows?

One thing looks certain though- bands aren't going to be paid what they used to, and the burden of responsibility is being moved to them. Live Nation have got their fingers burned recently......and aggressive monopolising entities like them really don't like that.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 27, 2020, 01:58:58 AM

There's a lot of extremely bad news for artists in there.

If they cancel they have to pay promoters twice their fee?! That'll lead to a lot of very shit concerts if things like illness or a band splitting up are included in that. Bands slogging on simply to avoid having to PAY the promoter not to play!

Ultimately, yet again, Live Nation are fucking over bands and ultimately fans even more it seems.

For awhile now, artists really make their money on the road.  The label system, and the move to digital, have completely screwed the artist when it comes to album sales.  They're just not that lucrative once the label is done carving out their piece of the pie.

So, albums are basically used to promote a tour, where the artists have gotten a much more fair shake.  Until, it appears, now.  Live Nation, after one "bad season", is crying poor and making artist hostile changes.  And THIS is the issue with having what amounts to a single vendor monopoly on booking large concert venues and ticket prices.

Note: Live Nation isn't intending to lower those ticket prices....they're just going to stuff the extra in their own pockets, instead of the artists.

Not. Cool. Where is Pearl Jam when you need them!!!

Couldn't agree more. That bit about "the promoter will set ticket prices" also means that musicians have zero say in what they're charging for tickets, meaning that the gap between when a musician is getting paid and the money made from ticket sales could widen massively. And if bands don't like the fee Live Nation are offering them, as you, say, what else can they do? There's a monopoly and it's 'play by our rules or don't play at all'.

People did warn of the risks of the Live Nation monopoly, and were largely ignored.



So if the 2020 concert gets delayed to 2021 do they stay under the old contract or are they forced into the 2021 contract?  If they say fuck you and fuck your contracts was there penalties under the old contract that have to be paid?

I think Live Nation is pretty much the game if you want to play.  I wonder what the change is to the venues contracts?

I was wondering the same thing. Is it a case of 'same show, less money'? I think whatever is going on some sort of announcement needs to be made very soon. Pretty much every other band have announced their 2021 rescheduled dates now. Whether they're doing that under these new rules....who knows?

One thing looks certain though- bands aren't going to be paid what they used to, and the burden of responsibility is being moved to them. Live Nation have got their fingers burned recently......and aggressive monopolising entities like them really don't like that.
bump....I am starting to get nervous now. most all other major tours have rescheduled. damn


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on June 27, 2020, 09:24:18 AM
I'm surprised they have not rescheduled the dates yet :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Mysteron on June 27, 2020, 01:43:25 PM
I'm surprised they have not rescheduled the dates yet :beer:

Until you guys vote out Doughnut Trump, nothing much is going to happen. To the rest of the world, the US appears on a different level with the virus, and that is coming from the UK, the numpty land of Europe. (England really)

Hopefully we can all get back on track next year.

(Not meaning it to be a political post btw. Just want the world to get back to normal)


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on June 27, 2020, 03:25:39 PM
I'm surprised they have not rescheduled the dates yet :beer:

Until you guys vote out Doughnut Trump, nothing much is going to happen. To the rest of the world, the US appears on a different level with the virus, and that is coming from the UK, the numpty land of Europe. (England really)

Hopefully we can all get back on track next year.

(Not meaning it to be a political post btw. Just want the world to get back to normal)

Yeah, we're giving America a run for it's money in the stupidity stakes at the moment for sure......but fuck me does the USA look in a state at the moment. It's the one thing me and my friends keep messaging to each other when we're down about the state of England at present, how at least we're not in America at the moment.

Stay safe all you guys out there.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on June 27, 2020, 05:50:06 PM
Lucky here in Maryland the cases are down to 300 hundred a day and 450 in the ICU.  The cases are bad in Florida, Texas, and Arizona all Trump states. Hopefully get the vaccine next year and then the concerts will be back on. :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on June 27, 2020, 05:57:12 PM
Its really getting bad here in Texas. We've paused reopening and shut bars down again. Houston in particular is about to run out of ICU beds. The largest hospital there already has. It is so bad children's medical center is taking adult patients.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on June 27, 2020, 06:51:36 PM
Genuinely saddens me to read this stuff. Sadly, the incapable leadership of these people is really coming home to roost.

From the state of things, perhaps it's unrealistic to expect concerts in America in 2021.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on June 28, 2020, 02:39:14 AM
It all comes down to a viable treatment or a working vaccine imo because states aren't universally requiring strict measures to slow the spread. Masks, following CDC guidelines to reopening.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: ITARocker on June 28, 2020, 04:44:06 AM
I'm surprised they have not rescheduled the dates yet :beer:

Until you guys vote out Doughnut Trump, nothing much is going to happen. To the rest of the world, the US appears on a different level with the virus, and that is coming from the UK, the numpty land of Europe. (England really)

Hopefully we can all get back on track next year.

(Not meaning it to be a political post btw. Just want the world to get back to normal)

Not everything should be linked to trump.  I mean, there's something about this virus that just escapes... For example I went to Romania this week... Nobody's wearing a fuckin sanitary mask (really, nobody), very few restrictions and, knowing their awful sanitary sistem and the general hygiene standards, covid really never spread there, they have obviously their ups and downs but that's it. So it's very strange how it spreads.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: PermissionToLand on June 29, 2020, 03:01:21 AM
I'm surprised they have not rescheduled the dates yet :beer:

Until you guys vote out Doughnut Trump, nothing much is going to happen. To the rest of the world, the US appears on a different level with the virus, and that is coming from the UK, the numpty land of Europe. (England really)

Hopefully we can all get back on track next year.

(Not meaning it to be a political post btw. Just want the world to get back to normal)

Not everything should be linked to trump.  I mean, there's something about this virus that just escapes... For example I went to Romania this week... Nobody's wearing a fuckin sanitary mask (really, nobody), very few restrictions and, knowing their awful sanitary sistem and the general hygiene standards, covid really never spread there, they have obviously their ups and downs but that's it. So it's very strange how it spreads.

Unlike the Trump administration, Romania didn't sit on their asses for the entire month of February and they banned large gatherings as early as March 8th. And their first case was over a month after ours.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: ITARocker on June 29, 2020, 04:33:36 AM
I'm surprised they have not rescheduled the dates yet :beer:

Until you guys vote out Doughnut Trump, nothing much is going to happen. To the rest of the world, the US appears on a different level with the virus, and that is coming from the UK, the numpty land of Europe. (England really)

Hopefully we can all get back on track next year.

(Not meaning it to be a political post btw. Just want the world to get back to normal)

Not everything should be linked to trump.  I mean, there's something about this virus that just escapes... For example I went to Romania this week... Nobody's wearing a fuckin sanitary mask (really, nobody), very few restrictions and, knowing their awful sanitary sistem and the general hygiene standards, covid really never spread there, they have obviously their ups and downs but that's it. So it's very strange how it spreads.

Unlike the Trump administration, Romania didn't sit on their asses for the entire month of February and they banned large gatherings as early as March 8th. And their first case was over a month after ours.

It's correct, but Romania and Italy (particularly North Italy) are very connected countries for business reasons so it's very strange how it didn't spread there.

btw In italy we've had a huge amount (and anticonstitutional) restrictions, still wearing masks at 30°C even if the virus is at its minimum .. it's an intelligent thing to do? don't think so. And in september/october after the shitty summer we'll have in terms of tourism incomes we will pay the lockdown in any case. Maybe we saved some lives (but i really doubt it cause the virus spread already when lockdown happened), but we'll have to front an economic disaster (i expect a fuckin default sooner or later...) that usually takes some lives in any case. I don't know the US situation but i think the truth is in the middle: don't underestimate - don't exagerrate cause the virus will hit in any case and you have to pay The price. remember, too many restrictions are counteproductive as well as doing nothing. So  if trump did nothing u are 100% correct, but if he's trying to do something without blocking the us economy (which has its sad price obviously) maybe he's right. We'll see.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Natalie on June 29, 2020, 12:07:51 PM
I believe that that the high American death toll has to do with the fact that a large percentage of American population ( minorities, people living below the poverty line) have no access to the health system. The US has some of the best hospitals in the world but they are not for everyone. So, yeah it's not just about the current administration.Your healthcare system needs reform ASAP imo.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Mysteron on June 29, 2020, 12:35:33 PM
I'm surprised they have not rescheduled the dates yet :beer:

Until you guys vote out Doughnut Trump, nothing much is going to happen. To the rest of the world, the US appears on a different level with the virus, and that is coming from the UK, the numpty land of Europe. (England really)

Hopefully we can all get back on track next year.

(Not meaning it to be a political post btw. Just want the world to get back to normal)

Not everything should be linked to trump.  I mean, there's something about this virus that just escapes... For example I went to Romania this week... Nobody's wearing a fuckin sanitary mask (really, nobody), very few restrictions and, knowing their awful sanitary sistem and the general hygiene standards, covid really never spread there, they have obviously their ups and downs but that's it. So it's very strange how it spreads.

Possibly, I'm not being mean. The US is a big place, and a complicated place to run probably. It's just sad to see the US having so many cases and deaths. I like America and it's people, it's a great place, very friendly and hospitable people. Romania is the same to be fair, I remember being invited in by some random family when we were there to have dinner and some home made alcohol years ago. Odd, but brilliant.

I'm just wanting this whole thing to end, it's getting tiring now. We need to get bands back out there on the road, cinemas back on, etc..


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: C0ma on June 29, 2020, 01:00:27 PM
I believe that that the high American death toll has to do with the fact that a large percentage of American population ( minorities, people living below the poverty line) have no access to the health system. The US has some of the best hospitals in the world but they are not for everyone. So, yeah it's not just about the current administration.Your healthcare system needs reform ASAP imo.

Not arguing for the US healthcare system at all here, but COVID "treatment" is basically palliative care. The average age of those who have died in the US is 82, and 75% of all fatalities have underlying conditions (Heart, Autoimmune, Diabetes, etc...). The issue isn't access to care, it's that there is very little that can be done other than to make them comfortable and breath for them. Hospitals also aren't turning people away, as there is emergency funding that they get on a per patient basis. The issue in the US is basically "give them an inch they'll take a mile". Eventually yes things need to open (I have 2 friends that have had to close businesses because they have been unable to operate since March 16th in MA and they see no end in site because of where they fall on the phased opening plan here), but even the slow opening has been taken advantage of. if you can have groups of 10 don't be groups of 50, and if asked to wear a mask, just wear the damn mask... but no... everyone has become a constitutional scholar in saying that it violates their rights to force them to wear a mask. While the vast majority of positive cases are symptom and side effect free, the numbers need to go down, and that is tough in cities where people are on top of each other. Lets see what 2021 brings.

Rate also has a lot to do with it, most of the other impacted countries in Europe for example are about the size of a single state in the US. we have 325 million people. The death rate for COVID is currently .3 percent. I tested positive for it based on a test I had to take for work, I had absolutely zero symptoms, took 14 days off from work, and even converted my basement into a makeshift apartment to limit my exposure to my 3 kids (one of which had a fairly recent bout with cancer). BUT I do see what happened to my friend, he had just made a major investment into building out his brewery with major construction costs, and based on MA licensing he cannot open. The building isn't ready for service so he can't do to-go orders, he can't get occupancy permits, he is completely underwater... for him the cure is worse than the disease.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on June 29, 2020, 10:58:33 PM
The situation in Texas is getting even worse. We have had 5k+ hospitalizations a day the last 3 days now. We can't sustain that rate for long. Houston's largest hospital has hit capacity. Houston's current positivity rate is 16%. Of people who enter the hospitals there for other reasons, 45% end up testing positive. The scary thing is now most the infections are people 25-35. Arizona just shutdown most things again today. Their hospitals are at 90% and will reach 100% by the 4th. They too are having to admit adults to children's hospital.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on July 01, 2020, 04:35:10 PM
I wonder when GNR is going to reschedule the tour dates for the North American tour?  Megadeth just announced their tour dates for next year, so hopefully GNR will make a decision soon. :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 02, 2020, 12:46:57 AM
With the way covid-19 is spiking again in the US i would be very cautious about scheduling anything even for next year at this point.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on July 02, 2020, 07:11:37 AM
I wonder when GNR is going to reschedule the tour dates for the North American tour?  Megadeth just announced their tour dates for next year, so hopefully GNR will make a decision soon. :beer:


You mean when they will be announced?

There's still the European dates which needs to be announced as well. They were originally supposed to happen before the North American leg...




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on July 03, 2020, 10:47:04 PM
I wonder when GNR is going to reschedule the tour dates for the North American tour?  Megadeth just announced their tour dates for next year, so hopefully GNR will make a decision soon. :beer:
I was thinking the same thing. It seems like this is the last tour that hasn't rescheduled!!!! I assume it isn't though.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on July 13, 2020, 01:50:52 PM
While it's unfortunate that the new dates haven't been announced, you have to remember that these are pretty special times we are in.

It will be interesting to see the tour dates for 2021 for certain venues. It might be busy!




/jarmo



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 15, 2020, 12:32:06 AM
While it's unfortunate that the new dates haven't been announced, you have to remember that these are pretty special times we are in.

It will be interesting to see the tour dates for 2021 for certain venues. It might be busy!




/jarmo


I sure wouldn't want to be the promoters who have to reschedule these shows.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on July 19, 2020, 04:46:10 PM
Still no update, looks like it could be months before the tour is rescheduled. :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 20, 2020, 08:10:07 AM
It very well could be, i don't envy Fernando having to workout new dates for two tours.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: C0ma on July 20, 2020, 11:21:30 AM
It very well could be, i don't envy Fernando having to workout new dates for two tours.

You are 100% correct, not an enviable position. They are probably going to have to change the times of year that they are going to be in different parts of the world, which means they are potentially going to have to change venues or cities all together. These venues (especially in the US) are also going to be struggling to work with professional sports leagues (and colleges) who need to reschedule 1000's of games, and they will be the priority for those venues.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on July 20, 2020, 05:53:06 PM
I got an email that they will send out another email on July 27 with all the details of the 2021 tour.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on July 21, 2020, 07:38:33 AM
I got an email that they will send out another email on July 27 with all the details of the 2021 tour.


Thanks for the heads-up!  : ok:




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 21, 2020, 09:44:09 AM
I got an email that they will send out another email on July 27 with all the details of the 2021 tour.


Thanks for the heads-up!  : ok:




/jarmo


I'm wondering if the email specified if this was about Europe,USA tour or both. I would assume both but clarification would be nice.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on July 21, 2020, 10:44:03 AM
Probably USA if it was relating to tickets to US shows....

But hopefully they'll announce both legs at the same time.


/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on July 21, 2020, 12:44:09 PM
Probably USA if it was relating to tickets to US shows....

But hopefully they'll announce both legs at the same time.


/jarmo


I’m not sure how to upload a picture but the email is from Ticketmaster and it says “Dear Guns N’ Roses fans and ticket holders” and that the “event organizer is working on rebooking a tour for 2021 which includes your event.”

Mine was the Indianapolis show.

It also says the next update will tell you how to get a refund if you can’t make the new date and that you will have 30 days to decide.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on July 21, 2020, 01:40:08 PM
Yeah, it's from Ticketmaster in the US for fans who had bought tickets to US shows....

But the European leg was supposed to happen before the North American one. So hopefully we'll get an update on both next week.... :)




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on July 21, 2020, 02:41:34 PM
Yeah, it's from Ticketmaster in the US for fans who had bought tickets to US shows....

But the European leg was supposed to happen before the North American one. So hopefully we'll get an update on both next week.... :)




/jarmo


Yes that would make sense.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on July 21, 2020, 09:06:59 PM


I was starting to get nervous since I didn't get an email until just now. The Detroit show handles the tickets through tigers.com not ticketmaster (which I did not know)


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 21, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
I hope the new date for my show isn't August 13th. I have tickets to another concert that was rescheduled for that date.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on July 22, 2020, 11:39:01 AM
I hope the new date for my show isn't August 13th. I have tickets to another concert that was rescheduled for that date.

I've had two other shows that I had tickets to this summer for other bands that have been rescheduled and so far they're almost on the same date. Unfortunately for me, one of them was originally on a Friday and now it's on a Monday. The good thing for that show is it's local. I would have had to cancel it if it was out of town.

I picked the Indianapolis GnR show because it was on a Friday and I'd only miss one day of work. It's a bit of a drive for me, so if they move it to another day other than Saturday or Sunday, then I'll probably get a refund or look to see if something else nearby was rescheduled for a day I can do.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: JAEBALL on July 22, 2020, 02:12:12 PM
I am SURE it’s not the bands fault, but it’s ridiculous that we still can’t get a refund AFTER the date my show would have taken place.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 23, 2020, 12:41:12 AM
I am SURE it’s not the bands fault, but it’s ridiculous that we still can’t get a refund AFTER the date my show would have taken place.
Nah it isn't their policy. It is Livenation. I believe the policy is if there was no new date in 60 days you have 30 days from then to get a refund. I am certain that is why ticketmaster sent out emails Monday, exactly 60 days from when the tour was postponed. This way you can't decide until the date is announced on the 27th.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 23, 2020, 12:42:26 AM
I hope the new date for my show isn't August 13th. I have tickets to another concert that was rescheduled for that date.

I've had two other shows that I had tickets to this summer for other bands that have been rescheduled and so far they're almost on the same date. Unfortunately for me, one of them was originally on a Friday and now it's on a Monday. The good thing for that show is it's local. I would have had to cancel it if it was out of town.

I picked the Indianapolis GnR show because it was on a Friday and I'd only miss one day of work. It's a bit of a drive for me, so if they move it to another day other than Saturday or Sunday, then I'll probably get a refund or look to see if something else nearby was rescheduled for a day I can do.

The one i already have a rescheduled date for is actually almost exactly 2 months later from the original date.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on July 26, 2020, 10:52:08 PM
so we should all be receiving an email tomorrow!!!!! :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 27, 2020, 05:47:14 PM
No news yet?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: JAEBALL on July 27, 2020, 06:51:10 PM
I am SURE it’s not the bands fault, but it’s ridiculous that we still can’t get a refund AFTER the date my show would have taken place.
Nah it isn't their policy. It is Livenation. I believe the policy is if there was no new date in 60 days you have 30 days from then to get a refund. I am certain that is why ticketmaster sent out emails Monday, exactly 60 days from when the tour was postponed. This way you can't decide until the date is announced on the 27th.

Yup ... and no follow up email from them today ...


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on July 27, 2020, 10:14:23 PM
so we should all be receiving an email tomorrow!!!!! :beer:

The new announcement, according to the email I received, is supposed to be July 28.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 28, 2020, 02:36:00 AM
That actually makes sense, most announcements like this usually come on Tuesdays.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kunzerd on July 28, 2020, 08:04:28 AM
The update I received says I have thirty days to decide if I want a refund, but they still don’t know when the new date would be.  Weird time to initiate the refund process then...


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 28, 2020, 08:42:17 AM
Well remember the Livenation refund policy. It said if the date was rescheduled within 30 days you had 30 days from then to decide. If it isn't in 60 you had 30 from then to decide. It has been just over 60 days with no new date.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: evander1129 on July 28, 2020, 08:58:45 AM
So basically, I need to request a refund now or roll the dice, without knowing when the show will be rescheduled to.  I am going to get refund, can't risk getting stuck with 1300.00 if I can't go on the new date.  This is only opportunity for a refund.  That makes ZERO sense.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kunzerd on July 28, 2020, 09:27:03 AM
So basically, I need to request a refund now or roll the dice, without knowing when the show will be rescheduled to.  I am going to get refund, can't risk getting stuck with 1300.00 if I can't go on the new date.  This is only opportunity for a refund.  That makes ZERO sense.

You could always wait until day 29.... ha.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on July 28, 2020, 05:27:49 PM
Getting my refund in 30 days...a safer bet than seeing if dates get rescheduled :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on July 28, 2020, 06:14:07 PM
I wonder what this means for GNR?  They aren't showing rescheduled dates so did they miss the opportunity to stay under the old contract?  The new contract seems to be more risky for the bands but maybe there wasn't an option to stay under the old contract whether they rescheduled or not.

Says something GNR is not one of the rescheduled acts.  The band that was criticized for playing that last concert when the pandemic was revving up is now not among the bands trying to be one of the first to come back.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on July 28, 2020, 07:32:49 PM
It's so tricky trying to reschedule for next year. Hopefully we hear something soon. :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4L on July 28, 2020, 07:45:54 PM
Just got an email saying they canceled the Seattle show.  I’m guessing the whole NA tour is not going to happen.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: 123191 on July 28, 2020, 08:09:04 PM
Just got an email saying they canceled the Seattle show.  I’m guessing the whole NA tour is not going to happen.

San Francisco show is cancelled too.  Both are baseball stadiums.  Bunch of other shows are already getting new dates tweeted out by the local Live Nation offices.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: 123191 on July 28, 2020, 08:12:00 PM
So basically, I need to request a refund now or roll the dice, without knowing when the show will be rescheduled to.  I am going to get refund, can't risk getting stuck with 1300.00 if I can't go on the new date.  This is only opportunity for a refund.  That makes ZERO sense.

No, you would have 30 days from when the rescheduled date gets announced if that is more than 30 days from now.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on July 28, 2020, 08:12:13 PM
Atlanta cancelled as well apparently.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: 123191 on July 28, 2020, 08:14:43 PM
So basically, I need to request a refund now or roll the dice, without knowing when the show will be rescheduled to.  I am going to get refund, can't risk getting stuck with 1300.00 if I can't go on the new date.  This is only opportunity for a refund.  That makes ZERO sense.

No, you would have 30 days from when the rescheduled date gets announced if that is more than 30 days from now.

https://twitter.com/LiveNationON/status/1288258772637450242?s=20

https://twitter.com/LiveNationMI/status/1288252642318340097?s=20

https://twitter.com/LiveNationMN/status/1288250540179283968?s=20

https://twitter.com/LiveNationIL/status/1288250281231351810?s=20


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: 123191 on July 28, 2020, 08:15:38 PM
Atlanta cancelled as well apparently.

I just posted links to the Live Nation tweets for rescheduled dates for Toronto, Detroit, Minneapolis, and Chicago.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on July 28, 2020, 08:24:23 PM
Does anyone know the rescheduled date for MetLife stadium? :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on July 28, 2020, 08:30:58 PM
Does anyone know the rescheduled date for MetLife stadium? :beer:

August 5th 2021 it looks like.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: draguns on July 28, 2020, 08:33:59 PM
I can confirm that the MetLife Stadium show is indeed August 5, 2021. I just checked my tickets now.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on July 28, 2020, 08:39:11 PM
What we have so far:


July 16th, 2021 - Minneapolis, MN @ Target Field
July 21st, 2021  - Chicago, IL @ Wrigley Field
July 24th, 2021 - Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
July 26th, 2021 - Toronto, ONT @ Rogers Centre

August 3rd, 2021 - Boston, MA @ Fenway Park
August 5th, 2021 - East Rutherford, NJ @ MetLife Stadium

August 19th, 2021 - Los Angeles, Ca @ Banc Of California Stadium (venue change)



Canceled shows: Atlanta, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Seattle, Tampa





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4L on July 28, 2020, 08:58:33 PM
What we have so far:

July 21st, 2021  - Chicago, IL @ Wrigley Field
July 24th, 2021 - Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
July 26th, 2021 - Toronto, ONT @ Rogers Centre

August 3rd, 2021 - Boston, MA @ Fenway Park
August 5th, 2021 - East Rutherford, NJ @ MetLife Stadium

August 19th, 2021 - Los Angeles, Ca @ Banc Of California Stadium (venue change)







Canceled shows: Atlanta, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Seattle, Tampa





/jarmo



Looks like i’m heading to Cali next year.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on July 28, 2020, 09:16:24 PM
July 10th, 2021 - Milwaukee, WI @ Summerfest
July 13th, 2021 - Washington, DC @ Nationals Park
July 16th, 2021 - Minneapolis, MN @ Target Field
July 18th, 2021 - Indianapolis, IN @ Lucas Oil Stadium
July 21st, 2021  - Chicago, IL @ Wrigley Field
July 24th, 2021 - Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
July 26th, 2021 - Toronto, ONT @ Rogers Centre
August 3rd, 2021 - Boston, MA @ Fenway Park
August 5th, 2021 - East Rutherford, NJ @ MetLife Stadium
August 11th, 2021 - Fargo, ND @ FargoDome
August 13th, 2021 - Missoula, MT @ Grizzly Stadium
August 16th, 2021 - Commerce City, CO @ Dick's Sporting Goods Park
August 19th, 2021 - Los Angeles, Ca @ Banc Of California Stadium (venue change)


https://twitter.com/gunsnroses/status/1288280958655963136



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on July 28, 2020, 09:24:15 PM
Thank you all for the update on MetLife stadium :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: 123191 on July 28, 2020, 09:31:43 PM
What we have so far:


July 16th, 2021 - Minneapolis, MN @ Target Field
July 21st, 2021  - Chicago, IL @ Wrigley Field
July 24th, 2021 - Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
July 26th, 2021 - Toronto, ONT @ Rogers Centre

August 3rd, 2021 - Boston, MA @ Fenway Park
August 5th, 2021 - East Rutherford, NJ @ MetLife Stadium

August 19th, 2021 - Los Angeles, Ca @ Banc Of California Stadium (venue change)



Canceled shows: Atlanta, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Seattle, Tampa

Looks like the SF Giants had a conflict with the date in SF. Not sure why they couldn’t move it to the A’s stadium or to Levi’s though.





/jarmo



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: kunzerd on July 28, 2020, 09:37:02 PM
I have a large collection of ticket stubs for Guns concerts that never were.

Shame they couldn’t figure out a new date, but philly is too big to skip entirely, I’m sure something will get figured out in the future but I’ll have to wait and see how it pans out.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on July 28, 2020, 09:57:01 PM
I didn't think they rescheduled any of the dates.  How did I miss that?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on July 28, 2020, 10:40:16 PM
What we have so far:


July 16th, 2021 - Minneapolis, MN @ Target Field
July 21st, 2021  - Chicago, IL @ Wrigley Field
July 24th, 2021 - Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
July 26th, 2021 - Toronto, ONT @ Rogers Centre

August 3rd, 2021 - Boston, MA @ Fenway Park
August 5th, 2021 - East Rutherford, NJ @ MetLife Stadium

August 19th, 2021 - Los Angeles, Ca @ Banc Of California Stadium (venue change)



Canceled shows: Atlanta, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Seattle, Tampa





/jarmo


No love for FL?  :'(

That sucks.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Boromir on July 29, 2020, 01:51:51 AM
Oh crap...

What does it tell us about the Europe dates?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 29, 2020, 06:15:32 AM
No love for San Francisco, Seattle, Atlanta, Tampa, Arlington and Philadelphia. It sucks but i knew these were going to be hard to reschedule. You got other bands fighting for venues, you have the teams who operate these stadiums needing them etc. At this point who even knows if these shows will even happen. We just have no idea what will happen with covid-19. Hopefully we'll have a treatment or vaccine but there's no certainty. I'm sure as things become clearer they'll try to add more or just add another leg to the tour. I'm amazed they were able to reschedule 13 of the 19 honestly.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Nytunz on July 29, 2020, 06:36:04 AM
But no new info about the european dates. Hope we get some updates on them to


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 29, 2020, 10:45:24 AM
But no new info about the european dates. Hope we get some updates on them to
Yep still have to see what they can reschedule from that tour too. This has got to be a logistical nightmare with so many vying for venues.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 29, 2020, 11:15:08 AM
Browsing another GNR forum and they're actually blaming the few shows that were canceled on ticket sales lol. They canceled Seattle, San Francisco, Dallas, Atlanta, Tampa and Philadelphia. They rescheduled smaller markets like Indianapolis, Fargo and Minnesota. You expect someone to believe those were outselling those larger markets?  ::)


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on July 29, 2020, 01:14:21 PM
Browsing another GNR forum and they're actually blaming the few shows that were canceled on ticket sales lol. They canceled Seattle, San Francisco, Dallas, Atlanta, Tampa and Philadelphia. They rescheduled smaller markets like Indianapolis, Fargo and Minnesota. You expect someone to believe those were outselling those larger markets?  ::)

Yeah, quite possibly. Smaller markets might sell more- especially if the tour hasn't been there as often. The less a band has been to a place or area, the more attractive buying a ticket seems.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: allwaystired on July 29, 2020, 01:15:31 PM
Browsing another GNR forum and they're actually blaming the few shows that were canceled on ticket sales lol. They canceled Seattle, San Francisco, Dallas, Atlanta, Tampa and Philadelphia. They rescheduled smaller markets like Indianapolis, Fargo and Minnesota. You expect someone to believe those were outselling those larger markets?  ::)

Yeah, quite possibly. Smaller markets might sell more- especially if the tour hasn't been there as often. The less a band has been to a place or area, the more attractive buying a ticket seems. There's also less competition from other gigs and events in smaller places for people's time, money and attention.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on July 29, 2020, 01:55:44 PM
3 of the 5 though they'd only been to one other time, Tampa not at all. So i don't think it had anything to do with ticket sales.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4L on July 29, 2020, 06:37:03 PM
Browsing another GNR forum and they're actually blaming the few shows that were canceled on ticket sales lol. They canceled Seattle, San Francisco, Dallas, Atlanta, Tampa and Philadelphia. They rescheduled smaller markets like Indianapolis, Fargo and Minnesota. You expect someone to believe those were outselling those larger markets?  ::)


Funny, cause Duff & Melissa are from Seattle.... T-Mobile park has the Mariners, a lot of other Stadiums have MLB teams too.  I’m excited for Montana & Cali.  GnFnR!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Mike McKagan on July 31, 2020, 07:37:26 PM
So I got an email like two days ago saying that the Indy show was postponed, and I had 29 days to request a refund, but I just got a new email a few minutes ago with the new date for next year saying that I CAN'T get a refund? Has anyone else had this happen? I was actually planning on doing the refund, since I have no idea if I'll be able to (or want to) go to the show next year...


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on July 31, 2020, 07:54:27 PM
You should be able to get a refund, my cousin is getting one for the MetLife stadium show.  I know they rescheduled for next year but a refund should also be an option. :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Mike McKagan on July 31, 2020, 07:57:04 PM
You should be able to get a refund, my cousin is getting one for the MetLife stadium show.  I know they rescheduled for next year but a refund should also be an option. :beer:

That's what I was thinking, too, but the email I just got says, "Please note that your event organizer is not allowing refunds at this time," and there's no refund option when I click on the "request refund" link from the email I got on the 28th. I guess I'll have to call Ticketmaster customer service, though I have a feeling they're gonna blame it on the "event organizer." We'll see, I guess.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on February 02, 2021, 11:11:18 AM
July 10th, 2021: Milwaukee, WI @ Henry Maier Festival Park (Summerfest)


Summerfest @Summerfest

We are excited to get the live music industry back in action and to welcome fans back, but in order to allow healthcare professionals more time to distribute the vaccine, Summerfest 2021 will be held September 2-4, 9-11 & 16-18. Save those dates, and we'll see you in September!



No information on whether or not GN'R and other acts will be scheduled for the new dates yet.




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: draguns on March 29, 2021, 05:33:05 PM
Governor Murphy  in NJ announced today that outdoor venues can have 30% capacity now. I'm wondering if there now might be some chance of GNR at least playing at MetLife Stadium.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on March 29, 2021, 08:21:27 PM
Governor Murphy  in NJ announced today that outdoor venues can have 30% capacity now. I'm wondering if there now might be some chance of GNR at least playing at MetLife Stadium.

Can you even make money under that scenario?  This is still a business.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on March 29, 2021, 08:28:12 PM
And 30% capacity includes all building staff and band crew.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: draguns on March 30, 2021, 06:33:32 PM
Governor Murphy  in NJ announced today that outdoor venues can have 30% capacity now. I'm wondering if there now might be some chance of GNR at least playing at MetLife Stadium.

Can you even make money under that scenario?  This is still a business.

On March 1, Governor Murphy announced 15% capacity for outdoor venues. It's now March 30th and he increased it to 30%. Let see what happens before jumping to conclusions.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: C0ma on March 31, 2021, 06:48:36 PM
Governor Murphy  in NJ announced today that outdoor venues can have 30% capacity now. I'm wondering if there now might be some chance of GNR at least playing at MetLife Stadium.

Can you even make money under that scenario?  This is still a business.

On March 1, Governor Murphy announced 15% capacity for outdoor venues. It's now March 30th and he increased it to 30%. Let see what happens before jumping to conclusions.

You have to look at every city and venue for a tour. They aren’t all going to open up at the same speeds. So you have to look at whether or not you can make money at each individual show, and also across the tour.

I still don’t t think anything about 2021 is promising.



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on April 01, 2021, 09:55:34 AM
Not that it relates to the GN'R tour directly, but the Bonnaroo festival announced their 2021 line up and put tickets on sale yesterday. That festival takes place in September.




/jarmo




Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: axlroses on April 01, 2021, 10:48:32 AM
I am back in the classroom teaching 5 days a week starting April 19th and I am in California.  Baseball Stadiums are open to fans, but in limited capacity.  I am thinking concerts have a shot to start up again in September or October.  Things have dramatically shifted in the last week here in the positive direction in terms of opening up.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: PermissionToLand on April 01, 2021, 07:35:02 PM
They might do a festival or two, but yeah, no way a real tour is gonna happen this year.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: axlroses on April 02, 2021, 05:26:53 PM
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Califorina-concert-reopening-indoors-theater-16073228.php

Hopefully a step in the right direction.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: draguns on April 07, 2021, 04:09:27 PM
https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/california-venues-reopen-june-15-1152162/


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on April 16, 2021, 05:47:22 PM
I wonder if there will be a US tour this year?  I think the tour will kick off in Australia in November :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on April 17, 2021, 10:41:08 AM
Doesn't that depend on when they'll allow concerts to happen again?




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on April 17, 2021, 02:39:35 PM
I think most of the venues in usa will be limited to 20 percent, canceling the tour. :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on April 18, 2021, 08:28:57 AM
I think most of the venues in usa will be limited to 20 percent, canceling the tour. :beer:

When?





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on April 18, 2021, 03:48:50 PM
Most of the baseball, basket ball venues are 20 percent full.  I think it will be the same for music. :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on April 18, 2021, 05:07:09 PM
Most of the baseball, basket ball venues are 20 percent full.  I think it will be the same for music. :beer:

You mean now? In April?




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on April 19, 2021, 08:14:15 AM
Most of the baseball, basket ball venues are 20 percent full.  I think it will be the same for music. :beer:

MLB is at 33 percent and moving to 50 percent either this week or next except for Texas where they’re 100 percent. University of Alabama did 50 percent last week for football training and held the largest crowd since the pandemic with almost 50,000 people. That said I still expect the tour to be canceled.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on April 19, 2021, 10:45:32 AM
Yeah, no US tour this year.  You'd lose money on the whole operation.

Every state does it slightly differently, but most all are restricted in some fashion.  You can't make the numbers work.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on April 19, 2021, 12:23:24 PM
Yeah, no US tour this year.  You'd lose money on the whole operation.

Every state does it slightly differently, but most all are restricted in some fashion.  You can't make the numbers work.

Yeah, I think the best you can hope for is maybe some outdoor festivals in the fall and some are being scheduled but I'm wary that even those happen. I personally think it will be OK by then but most promoters probably don't share my opinion. Haha.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: shadowofthewave on April 19, 2021, 08:26:00 PM
Yeah, no US tour this year.  You'd lose money on the whole operation.

Every state does it slightly differently, but most all are restricted in some fashion.  You can't make the numbers work.

Axl crying tears of joy at a fresh excuse to delay a new release.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: LunsJail on April 20, 2021, 11:58:36 AM
Yeah, no US tour this year.  You'd lose money on the whole operation.

Every state does it slightly differently, but most all are restricted in some fashion.  You can't make the numbers work.

Axl crying tears of joy at a fresh excuse to delay a new release.

Who said there was a release to delay?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on April 20, 2021, 02:04:47 PM
No tour no new album :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on April 20, 2021, 02:13:28 PM
Yeah, no US tour this year.  You'd lose money on the whole operation.

Every state does it slightly differently, but most all are restricted in some fashion.  You can't make the numbers work.

Axl crying tears of joy at a fresh excuse to delay a new release.

Who said there was a release to delay?

LOL.

Didn't you know that something without a release date can be delayed if you ask certain people!

 :hihi:



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: draguns on April 26, 2021, 10:30:24 PM
Governor Murphy announced today that outdoor venues are now allowed to hold 50% attendance. My opinion is that the odds for the MetLife show have increased a lot. I think it will happen. NJ is  at 42% of people who are vaccinated.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: C0ma on April 27, 2021, 12:18:13 PM
MA just announced that all restrictions and capacity limitations will be lifted August 1st... GnR is at Fenway Aug 3rd... crossing my fingers.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on April 27, 2021, 07:25:09 PM
All outdoor gathering restrictions lifted in Nashville by mid-May so I guess I’ll get to see the Def Leppard/Crue show lol


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on April 28, 2021, 03:46:51 PM
Yeah, no US tour this year.  You'd lose money on the whole operation.

Every state does it slightly differently, but most all are restricted in some fashion.  You can't make the numbers work.

Axl crying tears of joy at a fresh excuse to delay a new release.

- we're taking a look at everything
- it's not as simple as just putting something out
- there's a lot involved
- we need to figure out the best way to do it
- you have to realize there are a number of factors that only apply to this band and no other artist in the entire industry

...but all of that is for next year, before the tour.  

Let's not spoil the "surprise" when the word comes down from on high, next spring.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on April 29, 2021, 07:44:28 AM
Will you ever get bored of repeating that?

It'll be out when it'll be out. Relax.  :hihi:






/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on April 29, 2021, 10:37:25 PM
Will you ever get bored of repeating that?

It'll be out when it'll be out. Relax.  :hihi:






/jarmo


It's not the people who are bored and bitchy you have to worry about relaxing.  It's the people who got bored and relaxed so much that they don't come running when you want them too.  Not that GNR board traffic is anything more than a sample of your hard core fans who spread the word and interest but it's way down.  Maybe it moved to facebook and I don't see it but interest generated by the net has got a lot of people business.  I would think peak interest would get a lot of people over covid fears.  Just a thought.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on April 30, 2021, 05:59:50 AM
Yes and no.

Sometimes the ones who bitch the most, are hardcore fans who think their vocal frustrations actually serve a purpose. I guess it feels good to post WE WANT NEW MUSIC for years? I don't know...

But other times the ones doing the most bitching online are the ones who won't be spending any actual money on the things they bitch about....


Maybe I'm cynical, but the ones who claim to need something the most, aren't always the ones who will actually appreciate and enjoy whatever that something is, the most.





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on May 01, 2021, 12:37:57 AM
Yes and no.

Sometimes the ones who bitch the most, are hardcore fans who think their vocal frustrations actually serve a purpose. I guess it feels good to post WE WANT NEW MUSIC for years? I don't know...

But other times the ones doing the most bitching online are the ones who won't be spending any actual money on the things they bitch about....


Maybe I'm cynical, but the ones who claim to need something the most, aren't always the ones who will actually appreciate and enjoy whatever that something is, the most.





/jarmo


I can tell you I don't appreciate them.   :hihi: 

But I get the frustration.  I lose my shit every once in a while too.  Sometimes I just need my GNR.  Don't gush about it online but it's been a lifeline somedays.  :D


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 01, 2021, 05:49:12 AM
Everyone's different.

Personally if something frustrated me on a daily basis to the point that I have to type it out and tell the world how much something sucks, I'd just think about whether or not that thing makes me happy or not.

If GN'R never does what you (generally speaking) want them to do, are they still your favorite band? Or is the idea of the perfect band that does things just for you, your favorite band? ???

I mean, the things that I (and others?) enjoy are still there. No one can take that away from us. The music is still there. Enjoy it.... Hopefully it puts a smile on your face!



For me personally, ever since I became a fan, one of the things that "sold" it to me was that this was a band that did things their way. There's something authentic about it.

Fast forward a few decades and some seem to either have forgotten it, or ignore that fact and act like the band should just change because "This band is doing these things so why can't GN'R?"....

Before someone tries to be smart about what I just said and think I'm making an "excuse" about not releasing albums because other bands release albums. Please. I said GN'R will do what they want, when they want and how they want.



I also get that old habits die hard. Just like people who like to point out that Axl is always late for shows. Even when it's based on their experiences in the 1990s.





/jarmo





Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Mysteron on May 01, 2021, 12:26:25 PM
The band appear to have said in the past that new material will come when they can tour to support it, so that appears to be their stance.

To be fair though, it is a good thing that people are frustrated about the lack of a new album. It is when the conversation stops that you worry.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 01, 2021, 02:24:24 PM
It kinda depends.

I get that what you're basically saying is no frustration equals no demand. But I don't think it's that simple.

All of us will love the day we can either buy a new physical release and/or listen to it on our favorite streaming service.

Some just don't spend the time between now and then professing the difficulty in existing without having that new music on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. :)


Speaking of touring. A telling sign of the differences in attitudes is the fact that GN'R hasn't played a single show since March 14th, 2020. And once they announced the Australia / New Zealand tour for November 2021, some were quick to point out how they don't like the setlist. I mean.... We have nothing due to a pandemic, and your first priority is the songs they might play? I guess I always preferred something over nothing...




/jarmo



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Mysteron on May 02, 2021, 12:39:11 PM
It kinda depends.

I get that what you're basically saying is no frustration equals no demand. But I don't think it's that simple.

All of us will love the day we can either buy a new physical release and/or listen to it on our favorite streaming service.

Some just don't spend the time between now and then professing the difficulty in existing without having that new music on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. :)


Speaking of touring. A telling sign of the differences in attitudes is the fact that GN'R hasn't played a single show since March 14th, 2020. And once they announced the Australia / New Zealand tour for November 2021, some were quick to point out how they don't like the setlist. I mean.... We have nothing due to a pandemic, and your first priority is the songs they might play? I guess I always preferred something over nothing...




/jarmo



Whether it's frustration or reminiscing, as long as the communication keeps flowing then the lights stay on. I think my point was, I don't see frustration as a negative thing.

As for the setlist, I'm excited to see what they do. Obviously stick to the hits, one or two different older songs would be good, new songs are always welcome and forever exciting.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 02, 2021, 03:00:33 PM
I disagree a bit.

Whining because someone is frustrated does mean there's interest, but it also breeds more of the same whining.

Once we get shows back, there's gonna be thousands of people there who will enjoy it. If there's no new music out at the point, will they whine about it instead of enjoying the show? I doubt it.

If the band plays some new music at the show(s), will they be upset about that because it wasn't what they wanted? I doubt it...


The most vocal ones often aren't the majority. I don't make a difference between fans. If someone likes the band, great!
If someone starts listing demands about what needs to change so they'll become fans again, good luck with that.





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 03, 2021, 10:52:55 AM
Will you ever get bored of repeating that?

It'll be out when it'll be out. Relax.  :hihi:

Sure it will. 

We are one too good to pass up deal with Best Buy, allowing the label to recoup as much cost as it could, from having no albums of new material since George H.W. Bush was President.

This is a touring band.  A cash operation.  And, to be honest, a real solid one lately.  If they come your way, buy a ticket.  It's a fun night out.

Expecting anything else from these guys is a fool's errand. 

If anything leaks, download it.  That's the best you are going to to do.  Most of us did just that on the last batch.  Although I know, around here, we have to pretend none of that happened.  I liked some of those tunes though.  Have them in the rotation.  I also rather suspect they are the only versions of them I will ever have.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 03, 2021, 10:55:05 AM

As for the setlist, I'm excited to see what they do. Obviously stick to the hits, one or two different older songs would be good, new songs are always welcome and forever exciting.


I agree.  I was encouraged by the dusting off of 'Locomotive' and 'Dead Horse'.

Even with the reunion, the setlist was a bit lighter on UYI tunes than it might have been.  Perhaps the next batch of shows will see another resurrection or two.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 03, 2021, 11:07:14 AM
This is a touring band.  A cash operation.  And, to be honest, a real solid one lately.  If they come your way, buy a ticket.  It's a fun night out.

Well, they were a touring band until the pandemic hit....


If anything leaks, download it. 

I don't understand the need to take something that you didn't create and decide who should hear it. It's not your decision to make.
Have no interest in promoting this kind of behavior. Simple as that.




Even with the reunion, the setlist was a bit lighter on UYI tunes than it might have been.  Perhaps the next batch of shows will see another resurrection or two.

You forgot So Fine in Mexico City last tear.  :peace:




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 03, 2021, 02:07:58 PM

I don't understand the need to take something that you didn't create and decide who should hear it. It's not your decision to make.
Have no interest in promoting this kind of behavior. Simple as that.


Which is your prerogative.  We all know such things are never going to be promoted here.  And we all know why.

But you are living in god damn fantasyland if you think people don't download them.  How do you think fans were singing along with new songs on the 2002 and 2006 tours?  Lucky guesses??  In 2006, 'Better' and 'I.R.S' were on the radio for god's sake.  They entered airplay charts!

I get the band being salty over that.  But I also think it spoke to how starved people were for new material from the band.  And was probably the clue that was the time to strike.  Axl never looked or sounded better than he did in 2006.  And people were into it.  Then, a 2 year hiatus, it finally comes out, and people were like "oh, yeah...that thing."

The last batch that came out, there were like 5 completed songs out of that whole bunch.  And these were 20 plus year old demos done by a version of the band that no longer exists.  People downloaded them as a curiosity more than anything.

But, whether you want to hear it or not, some of this is on the band.  We knew some of those song titles for 15-20 years.  And the reality was this might be the only way we ever heard them.  Now, should some re-worked version of 'Atlas Shrugged' come out on some hypothetical 2022 album by the current band, are we all going to buy it?  Of course we are.  We aren't going to not bother because we have some demo version from March of 2000 or whatever.

Yet if a bunch of Pearl Jam songs leaked, would I download them?  No, probably not.  Because I have not been given any reason to believe they will not be released in short order.  If stuff is leaking, they are working, and they are going to get it done.  They aren't going to talk about it for a decade.  People download CD leaks because there was no real compelling argument they were ever going to get released.  People said, "fuck it" and thought this might be the only way to hear them.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on May 03, 2021, 02:08:08 PM
I think you all might be a little surprised on what happens with the mid to late summer leg of the US tour.

We'll see.. ;)


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 03, 2021, 02:10:12 PM
I think you all might be a little surprised on what happens with the mid to late summer leg of the US tour.

We'll see.. ;)

I super duper desperately want to be wrong, believe me.

But the argument for such is not a terribly compelling one.  "Hey, you never know" could also suggest an alien invasion next summer.  Doesn't mean I start building a bunker.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on May 03, 2021, 02:16:13 PM
I think you all might be a little surprised on what happens with the mid to late summer leg of the US tour.

We'll see.. ;)

I super duper desperately want to be wrong, believe me.

But the argument for such is not a terribly compelling one.  "Hey, you never know" could also suggest an alien invasion next summer.  Doesn't mean I start building a bunker.

Let me put it this way:

I worked in a venue for awhile in my youth.

I still have connections in that world.

I'm more than optimistic for people being pleasantly surprised.  I'm not 100%, but I'm at about 75%, especially for MetLife and Fenway.  Capacity might be questionable....as in they might not be full full shows so some might have their tickets cancelled.  But....well, lets just leave it at I'm optimistic. ;)

I don't think the Canadian show will happen, though.  

The earlier in the tour (aka mid July) the less optimistic I am.  But starting with the Fenway show (and, honestly, even the DC show to some extent) and going forward?    :beer:

We'll see what happens over the next few weeks or so.  Things could 100% change.  But today, I feel pretty good about those shows.



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on May 03, 2021, 02:29:17 PM
Governor Murphy announced today that outdoor venues are now allowed to hold 50% attendance. My opinion is that the odds for the MetLife show have increased a lot. I think it will happen. NJ is  at 42% of people who are vaccinated.

I believe, provisionally, July 7th is the goal for 75% capacity for large, outdoor venues.

We'll see if they make it/announce it in the next couple weeks.

A lot depends on seeing vax rate continue to trend up and infection rate to continue to trend down, I think.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 03, 2021, 02:33:04 PM
Oh, my bad, pilferk.  I thought you were talking about being surprised with a new album.

Concerts this year?  Dunno.  Fingers crossed, I guess.  Wish more people would get vaccinated already.  Speed this all along.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on May 03, 2021, 02:53:34 PM
Oh, my bad, pilferk.  I thought you were talking about being surprised with a new album.

Concerts this year?  Dunno.  Fingers crossed, I guess.  Wish more people would get vaccinated already.  Speed this all along.

Yeah, I mean....I used to have contacts on that side, too.  But they've all moved on to other industries or jobs.  Retail music sales (and retailers) just ain't what they used to be.

I have no idea if there is an album coming soon. I hope there is. But I don't really care to debate either way. It's old and boring and played out and we've covered the same ground about a million times. Nobody contributes anything new. It'll get here when it gets here, and if it doesn't.....that's OK too.  I'm in my late 40s.  I'm just not sweating it.  Ce La Vie. Totally subscribe to the Axl mantra: "If you're waiting...don't. Live your life. That's your responsibility not mine. If it were not to happen, you won't have missed a thing. If in fact it does, you might get something that works for you — in the end you could win on this either way."

YMMV. Enjoy your glass being half full or half empty. I hope it makes people happy.

I'm off to write another 20 pages or so on Machine Deep Learning and Healthcare analytics to flesh out this section.  FML.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 03, 2021, 03:27:43 PM
But you are living in god damn fantasyland if you think people don't download them.  How do you think fans were singing along with new songs on the 2002 and 2006 tours?  Lucky guesses??  In 2006, 'Better' and 'I.R.S' were on the radio for god's sake.  They entered airplay charts!

I'm aware, and I experienced it in 2006. But after that, it was a case of "this really isn't cool".... I understand wanting to hear something, I don't understand taking something that's not yours to share...

I also remember people choosing to listen to whatever they got and once the finished songs were released there were the usual "but I already heard this song" shit going on. Well, guess who made that decision?

I'd rather hear the songs the way they were intended to be heard before any alternative versions...





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 03, 2021, 03:30:30 PM
The earlier in the tour (aka mid July) the less optimistic I am.  But starting with the Fenway show (and, honestly, even the DC show to some extent) and going forward?    :beer:


Summerfest was already postponed until September by the festival themselves.





/jarmo




Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on May 03, 2021, 04:20:33 PM
The earlier in the tour (aka mid July) the less optimistic I am.  But starting with the Fenway show (and, honestly, even the DC show to some extent) and going forward?    :beer:


Summerfest was already postponed until September by the festival themselves.





/jarmo




Yeah, i think they were supposed to start in late june? And then 3 weekends?

Too early. Mid julyish looking better for lifted restrictions.



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 03, 2021, 05:06:03 PM

I also remember people choosing to listen to whatever they got and once the finished songs were released there were the usual "but I already heard this song" shit going on. Well, guess who made that decision?


Well, if there is a pitfall, it's that.  But like you said, that's on me, the downloader.  No one to blame but me on that one.

I will say, in all instances but one, the finished version on the album was the superior version.  For me personally, for whatever reason, the 'Prostitute' leak still sounds better to me.  I don't get that (for lack of a better term) "crunchy sound" underneath the mix on the album.

They also got my money the first day it was released.  I beat them out of nothing.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 03, 2021, 06:10:29 PM
Yeah, i think they were supposed to start in late june? And then 3 weekends?

Too early. Mid julyish looking better for lifted restrictions.


Oh, I don't remember when it was stating. But it was supposed to be the start of the North American GN'R tour.


This is all a big puzzle to try to figure out. Different states will reopen at different times. Who knows if there'll be other restrictions, and in that case what they'll be....





They also got my money the first day it was released.  I beat them out of nothing.


Yeah. Most hardcore fans will buy it. But there's also those who heard it somewhere else and decides they're not gonna spend time/money on it. Maybe not so much an issue about buying a physical album these days, but about spending the time to listen to it on a streaming service etc.

You can only premiere something once...





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on May 03, 2021, 06:19:17 PM
Big hurdle toward herd immunity set to be....hurdled?...by early next week. 12 to 15 year olds will be approved for the Pfizer vax by the FDA.

I know those aren't the concert goers, esp for GnR, but this is all a numbers game.  We'll see what the adoption rate is like.....



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: draguns on May 03, 2021, 06:19:58 PM
I think you all might be a little surprised on what happens with the mid to late summer leg of the US tour.

We'll see.. ;)

I super duper desperately want to be wrong, believe me.

But the argument for such is not a terribly compelling one.  "Hey, you never know" could also suggest an alien invasion next summer.  Doesn't mean I start building a bunker.


Let me put it this way:

I worked in a venue for awhile in my youth.

I still have connections in that world.

I'm more than optimistic for people being pleasantly surprised.  I'm not 100%, but I'm at about 75%, especially for MetLife and Fenway.  Capacity might be questionable....as in they might not be full full shows so some might have their tickets cancelled.  But....well, lets just leave it at I'm optimistic. ;)

I don't think the Canadian show will happen, though.  

The earlier in the tour (aka mid July) the less optimistic I am.  But starting with the Fenway show (and, honestly, even the DC show to some extent) and going forward?    :beer:

We'll see what happens over the next few weeks or so.  Things could 100% change.  But today, I feel pretty good about those shows.



Speaking about MetLife and NJ, it was announced today that NJ will allow restaurants  and other indoor entities not to have any capacity limits as long as customers are six feet apart. Governor Murphy and Governor Cuomo will be deciding together on further increasing capacity for outdoor venues. I wouldn't be surprised if MetLife goes  with  no capacity limits by the end of this month.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 04, 2021, 09:53:00 AM
Speaking about MetLife and NJ, it was announced today that NJ will allow restaurants  and other indoor entities not to have any capacity limits as long as customers are six feet apart. Governor Murphy and Governor Cuomo will be deciding together on further increasing capacity for outdoor venues. I wouldn't be surprised if MetLife goes  with  no capacity limits by the end of this month.

I live in PA and things seem to be moving fast here too.

But...not so much on the actual city of Philly.  Philly's show got canceled, but that's not my point here.  The suburbs and whatnot seem to moving faster than the big cities.  And the city, of course, is where our stadiums are.  We just cracked allowing 10K in for Phillies games.

Is it the same in NJ?


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on May 04, 2021, 10:51:00 AM
Speaking about MetLife and NJ, it was announced today that NJ will allow restaurants  and other indoor entities not to have any capacity limits as long as customers are six feet apart. Governor Murphy and Governor Cuomo will be deciding together on further increasing capacity for outdoor venues. I wouldn't be surprised if MetLife goes  with  no capacity limits by the end of this month.

I live in PA and things seem to be moving fast here too.

But...not so much on the actual city of Philly.  Philly's show got canceled, but that's not my point here.  The suburbs and whatnot seem to moving faster than the big cities.  And the city, of course, is where our stadiums are.  We just cracked allowing 10K in for Phillies games.

Is it the same in NJ?

10K fans is all they should ever let in for a Philly's game, you rude bastards!!!!!  :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: draguns on May 04, 2021, 12:14:37 PM
Speaking about MetLife and NJ, it was announced today that NJ will allow restaurants  and other indoor entities not to have any capacity limits as long as customers are six feet apart. Governor Murphy and Governor Cuomo will be deciding together on further increasing capacity for outdoor venues. I wouldn't be surprised if MetLife goes  with  no capacity limits by the end of this month.

I live in PA and things seem to be moving fast here too.

But...not so much on the actual city of Philly.  Philly's show got canceled, but that's not my point here.  The suburbs and whatnot seem to moving faster than the big cities.  And the city, of course, is where our stadiums are.  We just cracked allowing 10K in for Phillies games.

Is it the same in NJ?


For NJ, MetLife is our  largest stadium. Giants co-owner, Mara, has said that he's expecting full attendance by September. He said this last month.  In regards to lagging, it's really been Governor Murphy's call on things being open. There hasn't been much leeway for cities and suburbs to make the decision.  He worked with Governor Cuomo in NY to shutdown and reopen. I have to say they have been an effective team. We got hit hard here and they did a good job with managing it. The only thing is that both made mistakes with the nursing home.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 04, 2021, 01:28:39 PM
On a side note, Megadeth announced an US & Canadian tour starting in late August.




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on May 04, 2021, 06:38:40 PM
Where is the tour? :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 05, 2021, 08:13:08 AM
Where is the tour? :beer:

That Megadeth tour starts in USA and ends in Canada.

Obviously some are thinking touring will return this summer. Fingers crossed.



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on May 06, 2021, 07:49:25 AM
Candlebox just announced a tour too for this summer. Yankees and mets are going to be very close to full capacity on the 19th. They will have vaccinated and unvaccinated sections. Vaccinated full capacity with masks. Unvaccinated will have to be 6 feet apart and masked. So those will be capped at 33%. Unvaccinated kids can sit in vaccinated sections with their parents. I think there will be way more vaccinated then unvaccinated people at the games. I would be shocked if the stadiums aren't close to capacity. Both will be offering the J&J shot at the stadium for unvaccinated in attendance. If you get the vaccine you get a free ticket.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: C0ma on May 07, 2021, 09:54:00 AM
The City of Boston (Mayor) has announced that they will trail the States lifting of restrictions on August 1st by 3 weeks until August 22nd, which should impact the Fenway Park Show... not sure what percentage it will be at that point, but it will not be 100%.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on May 07, 2021, 06:09:03 PM
Surprised Guns has not made a decision about the USA tour yet.  I know the Yankees are allowing 33 percent to their games starting soon. I wonder what the percentage would have to be for  Guns to tour? :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on May 07, 2021, 11:45:05 PM
Surprised Guns has not made a decision about the USA tour yet.  I know the Yankees are allowing 33 percent to their games starting soon. I wonder what the percentage would have to be for  Guns to tour? :beer:

It's more then 33%. 33% in unvaccinated sections. Full capacity in vaccinated. So there's going to be a lot of people.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rebelhipi on May 08, 2021, 07:40:11 AM
Candlebox just announced a tour too for this summer. Yankees and mets are going to be very close to full capacity on the 19th. They will have vaccinated and unvaccinated sections. Vaccinated full capacity with masks. Unvaccinated will have to be 6 feet apart and masked. So those will be capped at 33%. Unvaccinated kids can sit in vaccinated sections with their parents. I think there will be way more vaccinated then unvaccinated people at the games. I would be shocked if the stadiums aren't close to capacity. Both will be offering the J&J shot at the stadium for unvaccinated in attendance. If you get the vaccine you get a free ticket.
Wow. Thats an amazing system. i love it!

Here in finland, i had tickets for a club show (max 700 people) for May 30th. They just rescheduled it for January 2022 :'( All major festivals are cancelled. All sporting events are without spectators.  Eventhought 41% of adults are already vaccinated and we are at about 200 covid cases per day (population 5,5 million)

Covid wise we see the light at the end of the tunnel, but for some reason they are not even talking about opening events yet.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on May 08, 2021, 08:05:53 AM
Candlebox just announced a tour too for this summer. Yankees and mets are going to be very close to full capacity on the 19th. They will have vaccinated and unvaccinated sections. Vaccinated full capacity with masks. Unvaccinated will have to be 6 feet apart and masked. So those will be capped at 33%. Unvaccinated kids can sit in vaccinated sections with their parents. I think there will be way more vaccinated then unvaccinated people at the games. I would be shocked if the stadiums aren't close to capacity. Both will be offering the J&J shot at the stadium for unvaccinated in attendance. If you get the vaccine you get a free ticket.
Wow. Thats an amazing system. i love it!

Here in finland, i had tickets for a club show (max 700 people) for May 30th. They just rescheduled it for January 2022 :'( All major festivals are cancelled. All sporting events are without spectators.  Eventhought 41% of adults are already vaccinated and we are at about 200 covid cases per day (population 5,5 million)

Covid wise we see the light at the end of the tunnel, but for some reason they are not even talking about opening events yet.

Yep it is creative and gets the most capacity you can without going full capacity. Plus it is outside so lesser chance of transmission. Offering free tickets for those who get the vaccine is a great idea. We are a little ahead of you. Of those eligible we have almost 42% fully vaccinated and 45% with at least one shot. Over 70% of seniors fully vaccinated.  Our most populous state California is fully opening June 15th. New York City July 1st.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on May 08, 2021, 09:21:45 PM
Yankee stadium is only open 33 percent, not fully opened. :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: faldor on May 08, 2021, 09:59:31 PM
They read a promo for the Fenway Park 8/3 show during the Red Sox game tonight. Jerry Remy (commentator) said he was working hard to get 6 front row tickets for friends from South Carolina. I checked online and field level tickets were available but some were limited view. I think they’re upping capacity to 25% soon and fully open by August?

I just saw a commercial for the show before the 9th inning.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on May 09, 2021, 02:32:38 AM
Yankee stadium is only open 33 percent, not fully opened. :beer:

It will have full capacity sections and 33% sections. So the overall capacity will exceed 33% for sure. Unless the majority of the crowd is unvaccinated. Which seems very unlikely.

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Mets-Yankees-can-go-to-full-capacity-for-16153412.php


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: draguns on May 09, 2021, 06:17:07 PM
I drove past MetLife Stadium this afternoon to go see a movie. MetLife Stadium was advertising the GNR concert.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on May 10, 2021, 06:18:11 PM
Still a lot of unvaccinated people, I wonder what the percentage will be in order to make money off of the concert? :beer:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 11, 2021, 09:19:11 AM
Still a lot of unvaccinated people, I wonder what the percentage will be in order to make money off of the concert? :beer:

I'm guessing they're still trying to figure it all out.

Concerts aren't back yet in the way we are used to. So we don't know once they are back if there'll be restrictions, and if so, what kind.

Obviously most of the artists/bands are eager to get back, but no one wants to tour before it's safe to do so. For everyone involved....


These openings with limited capacity at sporting venues are a step in the right direction. Let's see how long before the first bigger tours start....





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: C0ma on May 11, 2021, 01:24:18 PM
Yankee stadium is only open 33 percent, not fully opened. :beer:

It will have full capacity sections and 33% sections. So the overall capacity will exceed 33% for sure. Unless the majority of the crowd is unvaccinated. Which seems very unlikely.

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Mets-Yankees-can-go-to-full-capacity-for-16153412.php

How does this work in a stadium where seats are already sold? I know for instance at the Fenway show my friend and I that are going together are both vaccinated. Do my seats change? do I get upgraded to a better seat that had been occupied by someone that isn't vaccinated? How do they decide who doesn't get in if the capacity of the venue is less than the percentage of tickets sold? I know Boston will not be 100% by 8/3 based on the Mayor's announcement. MA lifts restrictions 8/1, GnR is 8/3, Boston lifts their restrictions 8/22...

What percentage of capacity is "enough" for it to make sense for the band and management financially to have the show? It's less than 90 days until the Boston Show and even less for the start of the tour.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: AxlsMainMan on May 11, 2021, 02:57:08 PM
I saw on Facebook that Genesis is doing an arena tour of North America in November. Seems like everything might be fully back to normal (or close to it) by then.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 12, 2021, 04:12:44 AM
Philly is relaxing all crowd restrictions effective June 11th.

I know they don't actually have a show in Philly, but I'm just pointing out that it is possible, perhaps sooner than we thought.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 12, 2021, 06:33:26 AM
That's a good sign.

The USA is definitely on track for reopening.






/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on May 12, 2021, 07:23:37 AM
Evanesece and Halestorm just announced an arena tour too starting in late October.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: axlroses on May 12, 2021, 10:08:18 AM
Things are definitely loosening up.  Vaccine available to 12 -15 years olds starting next week.  Baseball and basketball will give concerts a blueprint for how to proceed.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 12, 2021, 12:48:25 PM
Another band, Korn, just announced a tour starting in August.



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on May 12, 2021, 01:22:06 PM
Things are definitely loosening up.  Vaccine available to 12 -15 years olds starting next week.  Baseball and basketball will give concerts a blueprint for how to proceed.

Just a correction:

In a lot of places....12 to 15 will have appts available TOMORROW.

Thursday, the 13th.  

Edit: In fact, I just scheduled my 14 year old for her first dose tomorrow at 4PM. ;)

YMMV depending on where you are.   Heck, some places are already offering appts for tomorrow morning, figuring this afternoon is pretty much done (and...honestly, it is).


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on May 12, 2021, 11:44:56 PM
Things are definitely loosening up.  Vaccine available to 12 -15 years olds starting next week.  Baseball and basketball will give concerts a blueprint for how to proceed.

Just a correction:

In a lot of places....12 to 15 will have appts available TOMORROW.

Thursday, the 13th.  

Edit: In fact, I just scheduled my 14 year old for her first dose tomorrow at 4PM. ;)

YMMV depending on where you are.   Heck, some places are already offering appts for tomorrow morning, figuring this afternoon is pretty much done (and...honestly, it is).
Starting here tomorrow too.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4L on May 13, 2021, 04:49:46 PM
CDC says no mask if you're vaccinated... so hopefully everyone can go get vaccinated, and we can see GnR once the tour starts in a couple of months!


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: C0ma on May 14, 2021, 03:43:27 PM
The Motley Crue, Poison, Def Leppard, Joan Jet tour just got pushed to 2022.



Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on May 15, 2021, 09:38:13 AM
Maybe i am reading more into their announcement then what is there, but it seems like they were concerned about capacity limits and not actually being unable to play. So i wonder what that means for GNR also supposed to play stadiums in that same tineframe.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: C0ma on May 15, 2021, 10:34:56 AM
Maybe i am reading more into their announcement then what is there, but it seems like they were concerned about capacity limits and not actually being unable to play. So i wonder what that means for GNR also supposed to play stadiums in that same tineframe.

If the capacity is limited to a lower number than the tickets sold, how do they determine who gets in and who doesn’t? What is the capacity level where the band or bands don’t make enough money to cover the costs of the tour? Or do they just drop certain dates? Like Boston, where the concert is going to be three weeks before restrictions are lifted.


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 15, 2021, 02:09:45 PM
If the capacity is limited to a lower number than the tickets sold, how do they determine who gets in and who doesn’t? What is the capacity level where the band or bands don’t make enough money to cover the costs of the tour? Or do they just drop certain dates? Like Boston, where the concert is going to be three weeks before restrictions are lifted.

I'm just guessing: You can easily just block certain sections to get capacity down.

I think at this point, until we have an announcement and know for sure, they're trying to figure it out. Maybe if a date can't be played on a certain date, it can be moved to a later date?


Like I said, I'm just guessing, but to me, as an outsider in Europe, some places look like they're ready to open for business while others might be a little slower.

So either you postponed everything (like some bands do), or you assume everything will be more or less back to normal in like August (like other bands do)?





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on May 17, 2021, 07:26:45 AM
The Motley Crue, Poison, Def Leppard, Joan Jet tour just got pushed to 2022.



Correct me if I'm wrong, but that tour was slated to start in June, 2021?

I know a month doesn't seem like a lot of time, here, but.....it's a lot of time, here.

We'll see.....


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cotis on May 17, 2021, 11:11:38 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/FWG8nQ5/162126423549788594.jpg)


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 17, 2021, 11:48:56 AM
Cool!

September 4th, is the GN'R day.




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: C0ma on May 17, 2021, 12:29:08 PM
The Motley Crue, Poison, Def Leppard, Joan Jet tour just got pushed to 2022.



Correct me if I'm wrong, but that tour was slated to start in June, 2021?

I know a month doesn't seem like a lot of time, here, but.....it's a lot of time, here.

We'll see.....

With that said Governor Baker as of today is is now lifting all Corona Virus restrictions May 29th, giving the more “conservative” (as it relates to Corona, not politics) Boston mayor plenty of runway to ease restrictions slower and still not impact my show... after all I really only care about my show  ;)  :hihi:


Title: Re: 2020 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Ignatius on May 17, 2021, 01:28:35 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/FWG8nQ5/162126423549788594.jpg)

Nice!

Maybe we'll see Dave Grohl doing another song with Guns? I wouldn't mind that...

But wouldn't it be cool to see Miley Cirus joining the band in Sweet Child O' Mine?


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on May 17, 2021, 10:30:21 PM
With each passing day, this looks more and more like this is actually gonna happen!!!! A bunch of tours got announced today around the music/rock world. I have Detroit tickets for end of July. Fingers crossed.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on May 18, 2021, 06:51:18 AM
Fenway has announced they go back to full capacity on May 29th.



Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 18, 2021, 11:04:14 AM
Just confirmed: September 18th, 2021 Summerfest





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on May 18, 2021, 05:22:37 PM
Has GNR said anything about an all new show?  I know they were billing Europe like there was going to be a major change before the pandemic.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Executioner on May 18, 2021, 05:45:15 PM
Has GNR said anything about an all new show?  I know they were billing Europe like there was going to be a major change before the pandemic.
They'll probably play a new cover version ,I don't see them changing very much as a new album doesn't appear to be on the horzon despite the downtime they've had due to the pandemic.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on May 18, 2021, 08:51:31 PM
There better be plans for new songs, or it will be the same 30 songs we have heard for the past 5 years.  It's time for a new album, no more excuses. :beer:


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on May 18, 2021, 11:46:34 PM
There better be plans for new songs, or it will be the same 30 songs we have heard for the past 5 years.  It's time for a new album, no more excuses. :beer:
I agree....for Christ sake, how about at least 1 new song? Also please no more Wichita lineman cover


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on May 19, 2021, 01:06:13 AM
There better be plans for new songs, or it will be the same 30 songs we have heard for the past 5 years.  It's time for a new album, no more excuses. :beer:
I agree....for Christ sake, how about at least 1 new song? Also please no more Wichita lineman cover

Hey, I like that song and look forward to it.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 19, 2021, 05:47:18 AM
Also please no more Wichita lineman cover

Wasn't played in 2020.



Personally, not putting too much importance on the setlist after this past concert drought. Just wanna see the band on stage in front of fans who are enjoying themselves.





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: C0ma on May 19, 2021, 07:09:03 AM
There better be plans for new songs, or it will be the same 30 songs we have heard for the past 5 years.  It's time for a new album, no more excuses. :beer:

This is the UYI anniversary year, so there is the possibility of more focus on that album... possibly something like what they did with Shadow of Your Love, but from the Illusions sessions getting a release.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: pilferk on May 19, 2021, 08:01:41 AM
Wasn't played in 2020.



Personally, not putting too much importance on the setlist after this past concert drought. Just wanna see the band on stage in front of fans who are enjoying themselves.

/jarmo


They could play an entire setlist of The Memphis Jug Band's classic hits and I would totally be there.  Because it's live music, it's GnR, and IDGAF what they decide to put in their set list so long as I get to see them play.

It's been a long and winding road to get here.......


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: cineater on May 19, 2021, 04:35:41 PM
Wasn't played in 2020.



Personally, not putting too much importance on the setlist after this past concert drought. Just wanna see the band on stage in front of fans who are enjoying themselves.

/jarmo


They could play an entire setlist of The Memphis Jug Band's classic hits and I would totally be there.  Because it's live music, it's GnR, and IDGAF what they decide to put in their set list so long as I get to see them play.

It's been a long and winding road to get here.......

I think you all know I favor jug band music.   :hihi:


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: draguns on May 19, 2021, 07:38:57 PM
There better be plans for new songs, or it will be the same 30 songs we have heard for the past 5 years.  It's time for a new album, no more excuses. :beer:
I agree....for Christ sake, how about at least 1 new song? Also please no more Wichita lineman cover

I agree. Wichita Lineman is such a downer. It doesn't fit into the setlist. I hope it doesn't get played.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: axlroses on May 19, 2021, 09:39:00 PM
Requested tickets for Bottlerock in Napa..fingers crossed..hopefully will be seeing GNR live again.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jbuch on May 20, 2021, 03:22:49 PM
Michigan just announced outdoor venues can operate at full capacity starting June 1.  That bodes well for GNR in Detroit in July.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sky dog on May 20, 2021, 05:44:06 PM
Follow the science.... ::)


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on May 20, 2021, 08:00:45 PM
Michigan just announced outdoor venues can operate at full capacity starting June 1.  That bodes well for GNR in Detroit in July.
hell yeah! Just what I wanted to hear. I have GA Pit for that show


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 24, 2021, 11:36:46 AM
The BottleRock 2021 daily lineup is here! A *very limited* number of 1-day tickets on sale Thursday, 5/27 at 10am. #gunsnroses #bottlerock2021

https://twitter.com/htgth/status/1396852226891698176





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4L on May 24, 2021, 11:50:42 AM
The BottleRock 2021 daily lineup is here! A *very limited* number of 1-day tickets on sale Thursday, 5/27 at 10am. #gunsnroses #bottlerock2021

https://twitter.com/htgth/status/1396852226891698176





/jarmo



I registered for mine last week! #fingerscrossed


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: draguns on May 24, 2021, 02:12:14 PM
Governor Murphy announced this afternoon that starting May 28th, MetLife Stadium can be at full capacity.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 25, 2021, 12:08:37 PM
Governor Murphy announced this afternoon that starting May 28th, MetLife Stadium can be at full capacity.

Saw that.

Looks like it might work out for us after all this year.  Which is cool.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on May 26, 2021, 09:23:44 PM
Looks like the north American tour will go off in July.  Wonder if we will get new music or not until the Australian tour kicks off :beer:


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: axlroses on May 27, 2021, 09:58:31 AM
I preregistered for Saturday tickets for BottleRock and got the email last night that I got them.  The family and I seeing GNR in September.  Can’t wait.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 27, 2021, 01:10:13 PM
I preregistered for Saturday tickets for BottleRock and got the email last night that I got them.  The family and I seeing GNR in September.  Can’t wait.


Awesome!




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4L on May 27, 2021, 03:13:57 PM
I preregistered for Saturday tickets for BottleRock and got the email last night that I got them.  The family and I seeing GNR in September.  Can’t wait.


Same here! can't wait to see London's band, plus Miley then GnR!


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: axlroses on May 27, 2021, 04:29:08 PM
I hadn’t seen that Sa8nt Elektrik was on the bill, but that is awesome


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: shadowofthewave on May 27, 2021, 07:22:51 PM
There is nothing on GNR IG or Twitter promoting the tour. I think it's going to be rescheduled to directly after the European tour next year (the way they were going to do it last year). It's simply that the band's manager is too selfish to make this update anytime sooner than probably the week before, as inconveniencing fans seems to be Fernando's true passion in life.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on May 27, 2021, 08:25:30 PM
I'm pretty sure the tour will happen now that the stadiums are being fully opened up :beer:


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: shadowofthewave on May 27, 2021, 08:36:39 PM
I'm pretty sure the tour will happen now that the stadiums are being fully opened up :beer:

From the poster "Original" on Mygnr in reference to the Minneapolis show: Startribune critic/reporter responded right away-"Thanks for your email. No further word about GNR. But a Target Field rep told one of our reporters that the concert isn’t happening this year. As you probably know, Live Nation/Ticketmaster operates in strange ways. So does Axl."


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 28, 2021, 05:55:32 AM
There is nothing on GNR IG or Twitter promoting the tour. I think it's going to be rescheduled to directly after the European tour next year (the way they were going to do it last year). It's simply that the band's manager is too selfish to make this update anytime sooner than probably the week before, as inconveniencing fans seems to be Fernando's true passion in life.

The tour was originally announced in 2020. They just announced two shows for September.

What's your great conclusion from this? That they'll postponed all the shows, excluding the two for September? Or everything, including the just announced shows gets postponed?


It's ok to say "I don't know" instead of trying to come up with lame accusations. Because, sometimes you don't. Happens to all of us.






/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sandman on May 28, 2021, 12:27:14 PM
Hard rock Atlantic City!!!!

Maybe a warm up show?


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sandman on May 28, 2021, 02:34:32 PM
Similar post on hershey stadium’s social media.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Cousin It on May 28, 2021, 03:28:05 PM
Another add just popped on 105.7 (near Hershey)the X's facebook page........THEY ARE F'N' COMING!


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 28, 2021, 04:03:24 PM
Looks like two venues on the East Coast (Hershey & Atlantic City) are hinting something.

What will the insiders make of it?





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on May 28, 2021, 06:27:22 PM
Things are looking good for the tour to kick off in July :beer:


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: dsaddler78 on May 28, 2021, 09:53:31 PM
Things are looking good for the tour to kick off in July :beer:
I think so to. All things are trending in the right direction. Mask mandate is lifted on June 2nd here (Cleveland,Ohio) and all the events are allowed at full capacity. I believe Michigan is the same so the Detroit Date is hopefully good to go


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: (t) on May 29, 2021, 08:20:24 PM
I hadn’t seen that Sa8nt Elektrik was on the bill, but that is awesome

Only song I could find. Not bad!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoPLYTIAn1Q


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: GNR4L on May 30, 2021, 12:46:50 AM
I hadn’t seen that Sa8nt Elektrik was on the bill, but that is awesome

Only song I could find. Not bad!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoPLYTIAn1Q


I believe that is their first single, that they have released.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: axlroses on May 30, 2021, 01:42:53 AM
It is…the previous band broke up.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: sandman on May 30, 2021, 09:33:07 AM
I know some people in AC, and they know i am a die hard gnr fan.
 
They told me to book the weekend of sept 10-12. Two shows at the hard rock. sept 11 and sept 12.

Also mentioned Hershey july 31.

Announcement coming on tuesday.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 30, 2021, 10:39:29 AM
Interesting...

Won't have to wait long then, to see if it's true.




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: stlkiss on May 30, 2021, 11:52:27 AM
I know some people in AC, and they know i am a die hard gnr fan.
 
They told me to book the weekend of sept 10-12. Two shows at the hard rock. sept 11 and sept 12.

Also mentioned Hershey july 31.

Announcement coming on tuesday.

For what it’s worth, Cincinnati is scheduled to make a major concert announcement on Tuesday to open a new music venue...


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: shadowofthewave on May 30, 2021, 03:59:25 PM
Fernando said in a July 2020 Reddit post he hoped new music would be released along with the 2021 tour. Locked N Loaded was announced on April 30,2018 with SOYL released a few days later, just a month before the tour started on June 3. So there is still time before the tour starts to get an album release going. It would certainly be nice if a single release and album announcement came on Tuesday along with the new dates.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Nytunz on May 30, 2021, 05:39:58 PM
Looks like there are lots of "They are f n coming" billboards sightings now. Interesting👍👌


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: tim_m on May 31, 2021, 08:24:45 AM
Any in Texas? Since they had to cancel that stadium show due to the Rangers being in town.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: rizzo160 on May 31, 2021, 10:44:29 AM
I wonder if GNR will release a UYI boxset to commemorate 30 years. Hopefully get some new songs. :beer:


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on May 31, 2021, 12:49:35 PM
Any in Texas? Since they had to cancel that stadium show due to the Rangers being in town.


According to social media, someone had spotted a "They're FN coming" billboard in Dallas.





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Gavgnr on May 31, 2021, 06:03:39 PM
Fernando said in a July 2020 Reddit post he hoped new music would be released along with the 2021 tour. Locked N Loaded was announced on April 30,2018 with SOYL released a few days later, just a month before the tour started on June 3. So there is still time before the tour starts to get an album release going. It would certainly be nice if a single release and album announcement came on Tuesday along with the new dates.

Man that would be something 🤞


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on June 01, 2021, 09:08:00 AM
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/guns-n-roses-rescheduled-2021-tour-1176261/

USA 2021:

July 31st, 2021 - Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium

August 3rd, 2021 - Boston, MA @ Fenway Park
August 5th, 2021 - East Rutherford, NJ @ Metlife Stadium
August 8th, 2021 - Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
August 11th, 2021 - Fargo, ND @ FargoDome
August 13th, 2021 - Missoula, MT @ Grizzly Stadium
August 16th, 2021 - Commerce City, CO @ Dick's Sporting Goods Park
August 19th, 2021 - Los Angeles, CA @ Banc Of California Stadium
August 22nd, 2021 - Portland, OR @ Moda Center
August 25th, 2021 - San Jose, CA @ SAP Center at San Jose
August 27th, 2021 - Las Vegas NV @ To Be Announced
August 30th, 2021 - Phoenix, AZ @ Phoenix Suns Arena

September 1st, 2021 - Dallas, TX @ American Airlines Center
September 4th, 2021 - Napa, CA @ Napa Valley Expo (BottleRock)
September 8th, 2021 - Indianapolis, IN @ Lucas Oil Stadium
September 11th, 2021 - Atlantic City, NJ @ Hard Rock Live at Etess Arena
September 12th, 2021 - Atlantic City, NJ @ Hard Rock Live at Etess Arena
September 16th, 2021 - Chicago, IL @ Wrigley Field
September 18th, 2021 - Milwaukee, WI @ American Family Insurance Amphitheater (Summerfest)
September 21st, 2021 - St Paul, MN @ Xcel Energy Center
September 23rd, 2021 - Columbus, OH @ The Schottenstein Center
September 26th, 2021 - Baltimore, MD @ Royal Farms Arena
September 29th, 2021 - Raleigh, NC @ PNC Arena

October 2nd, 2021 - Hollywood, FL @ The Hard Rock Live at the Seminole Hard Rock
October 3rd, 2021 - Hollywood, FL @ The Hard Rock Live at the Seminole Hard Rock





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: jarmo on June 01, 2021, 10:12:08 AM
Get on the Nightrain for first shot at tickets beginning June 1 at Noon local time.

Active NIGHTRAIN members will see their UNIQUE presale code displayed on the TOUR page after logging in.

Tickets go on sale to the general public beginning June 4 at 10:00AM local time.

https://www.gunsnroses.com/tour




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: axlroses on June 01, 2021, 10:14:22 AM
I will be picking up tickets for San Jose....can't wait...and then get to see them in Napa three weeks later.


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: Summer Romance on June 01, 2021, 10:14:56 AM
Montana and Oregon--here I come!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: LunsJail on June 01, 2021, 10:57:46 AM
Bummed about the DC show


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 01, 2021, 11:01:39 AM
So should we assume these shows have no covid restrictions?


Title: Re: 2021 North America Stadium Tour
Post by: NaturalLight on June 01, 2021, 11:02:15 AM
Get on the Nightrain for first shot at tickets beginning June 1 at Noon local time.

Active NIGHTRAIN members will see their UNIQUE presale code displayed on the TOUR page after logging in.

Tickets go on sale to the general public beginning June 4 at 10:00AM local time.

https://www.gunsnroses.com/tour




/jarmo


So our  old tickets are still good, right?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 01, 2021, 11:06:11 AM
Get on the Nightrain for first shot at tickets beginning June 1 at Noon local time.

Active NIGHTRAIN members will see their UNIQUE presale code displayed on the TOUR page after logging in.

Tickets go on sale to the general public beginning June 4 at 10:00AM local time.

https://www.gunsnroses.com/tour




/jarmo


So our  old tickets are still good, right?
yes....I just got an email mine for Detroit are still good


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: NaturalLight on June 01, 2021, 11:18:11 AM
Get on the Nightrain for first shot at tickets beginning June 1 at Noon local time.

Active NIGHTRAIN members will see their UNIQUE presale code displayed on the TOUR page after logging in.

Tickets go on sale to the general public beginning June 4 at 10:00AM local time.

https://www.gunsnroses.com/tour




/jarmo


So our  old tickets are still good, right?
yes....I just got an email mine for Detroit are still good

Thanks!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: AxlsMainMan on June 01, 2021, 11:48:15 AM
Anyone know what's going on with the Toronto show? My tickets say "Past Event" in the Ticketmaster app ???


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 01, 2021, 12:19:36 PM
I just grabbed 2 pit tix for Columbus, Ohio. I  got right on the site no problem  ;D


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: coondogg on June 01, 2021, 12:20:56 PM
What tickets are people seeing with the pre-sale? Good seats? OK seats? The last few pre-sales haven't had the best seats available. Better seats opened up during public ticket releases.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 01, 2021, 12:22:33 PM
Anyone know what's going on with the Toronto show? My tickets say "Past Event" in the Ticketmaster app ???


Canceled.


The shows in Washington, DC, Minneapolis, MN and Toronto, ON are unfortunately canceled.



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 01, 2021, 12:24:47 PM
What tickets are people seeing with the pre-sale? Good seats? OK seats? The last few pre-sales haven't had the best seats available. Better seats opened up during public ticket releases.
I just grabbed 2 pit tix for Columbus, Ohio. I  got right on the site no problem  ;D


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 01, 2021, 12:27:54 PM
What tickets are people seeing with the pre-sale? Good seats? OK seats? The last few pre-sales haven't had the best seats available. Better seats opened up during public ticket releases.

Looks like the for the Hard Rock shows in Atlantic City, NJ and Hollywood, FL you can get tickets in every category. GA, lower bowl seats....

Depends on the venue. Some have floor seats in the first few rows, others have seats a little further back.





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: coondogg on June 01, 2021, 12:32:33 PM
What tickets are people seeing with the pre-sale? Good seats? OK seats? The last few pre-sales haven't had the best seats available. Better seats opened up during public ticket releases.

Looks like the for the Hard Rock shows in Atlantic City, NJ and Hollywood, FL you can get tickets in every category. GA, lower bowl seats....

Depends on the venue. Some have floor seats in the first few rows, others have seats a little further back.







/jarmo


Good to hear. I was looking for the Hollywood shows. Thank you for the info.



Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 01, 2021, 12:51:43 PM
No worries. Good luck!  : ok:



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: axlroses on June 01, 2021, 03:34:18 PM
Picked up two floor seats dead center for the San Jose show...then I get to see them in Napa in September.  Can't wait.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on June 01, 2021, 05:27:56 PM
Are we in danger of Melissa ODing in Hershey?   :hihi:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Ali on June 01, 2021, 07:55:23 PM
Picked up two floor seats dead center for the San Jose show...then I get to see them in Napa in September.  Can't wait.
Going to San Jose as well. Want to go to Napa, but tickets sold out already. I will be checking StubHub for those.

GN'R has had plenty of Bay Area shows, but not San Jose recently.

Ali


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: PermissionToLand on June 01, 2021, 08:46:24 PM
Are the ticket prices tiered even at release? With AC/DC I was able to get GA 10th row seats for $80 by being fast on the draw. Not sure whether to jump on Atlantic City on release, or wait for unsold/secondhand East Rutherford prices to come down further.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 02, 2021, 12:07:51 AM
Are the ticket prices tiered even at release? With AC/DC I was able to get GA 10th row seats for $80 by being fast on the draw. Not sure whether to jump on Atlantic City on release, or wait for unsold/secondhand East Rutherford prices to come down further.
Yes, they are set in tiers . The unsold/secondhand will always vary based on demand, etc...


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on June 02, 2021, 12:13:43 AM
Can anyone please tell me the prices for the Dallas show? Looking for the cheapest in the 300s specifically.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 02, 2021, 04:42:16 AM
Can anyone please tell me the prices for the Dallas show? Looking for the cheapest in the 300s specifically.

$39.50 + fees





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on June 02, 2021, 08:13:09 AM
Well this tour came out of nowhere! Nice.

Wolfgang landed a great opening gig for his 1st time out.  Ive been very much liking what Ive heard from him so far.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on June 02, 2021, 08:22:45 AM
Can anyone please tell me the prices for the Dallas show? Looking for the cheapest in the 300s specifically.

$39.50 + fees





/jarmo

Thanks Jarmo, i appreciate it.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 02, 2021, 11:05:40 AM
Good luck getting tickets!




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tormented on June 02, 2021, 11:06:16 AM
Was so looking forward to knocking smashing pumpkins and Guns N Roses off my bucket list but I’m just grateful that this show is actually happening, can always see the Pumpkins later


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rebelhipi on June 03, 2021, 07:06:57 PM
I was looking at some ticket prices out of curiosity.
600$ for pit tickets. Front row seats 1000$ in Dallas. 700$ pit tickets in Florida.  :o

Im a bit shocked. I scored pit tickets for Lisbon and Prague 2022 for around 120-160$ I know the pit area is tiny in American venues to make more room for seats, but still.

Hershey PA  was the only one with similar prices with Europe.
I really hope these prices wont come over here. Id be outpriced from these shows. (edit) The good seats atleast.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 03, 2021, 09:55:17 PM
I was looking at some ticket prices out of curiosity.
600$ for pit tickets. Front row seats 1000$ in Dallas. 700$ pit tickets in Florida.  :o

Im a bit shocked. I scored pit tickets for Lisbon and Prague 2022 for around 120-160$ I know the pit area is tiny in American venues to make more room for seats, but still.

Hershey PA  was the only one with similar prices with Europe.
I really hope these prices wont come over here. Id be outpriced from these shows. (edit) The good seats atleast.
Those prices are re-sale. Face value is in the 225 range for most of all the shows. Guess you gotta be on right away for the pre-sales and get lucky


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rebelhipi on June 03, 2021, 10:34:20 PM
I was looking at some ticket prices out of curiosity.
600$ for pit tickets. Front row seats 1000$ in Dallas. 700$ pit tickets in Florida.  :o

Im a bit shocked. I scored pit tickets for Lisbon and Prague 2022 for around 120-160$ I know the pit area is tiny in American venues to make more room for seats, but still.

Hershey PA  was the only one with similar prices with Europe.
I really hope these prices wont come over here. Id be outpriced from these shows. (edit) The good seats atleast.
Those prices are re-sale. Face value is in the 225 range for most of all the shows. Guess you gotta be on right away for the pre-sales and get lucky
Ah. Didnt realise that. My bad.
225$ is decent.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 03, 2021, 10:49:10 PM
I was looking at some ticket prices out of curiosity.
600$ for pit tickets. Front row seats 1000$ in Dallas. 700$ pit tickets in Florida.  :o

Im a bit shocked. I scored pit tickets for Lisbon and Prague 2022 for around 120-160$ I know the pit area is tiny in American venues to make more room for seats, but still.

Hershey PA  was the only one with similar prices with Europe.
I really hope these prices wont come over here. Id be outpriced from these shows. (edit) The good seats atleast.
Those prices are re-sale. Face value is in the 225 range for most of all the shows. Guess you gotta be on right away for the pre-sales and get lucky
Ah. Didnt realise that. My bad.
225$ is decent.
yeah no worries. I got pit tickets to Detroit and Columbus from Nighttrain presale. both about 225 a ticket. Once people get them, they re list them for crazy amounts


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Natalie on June 04, 2021, 12:56:22 PM
Actually for the shows in Atlantic City and Hollywood Florida pit prices are indeed around 600 $ each. I think it's because these are very small venues, not arenas or stadiums.

Btw anyone else having problems with ticketmaster? It has been a complete disaster for me since yesterday, always getting these messages " we can't process your order through this device" or just rejecting my card etc etc


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 04, 2021, 02:43:13 PM
Actually for the shows in Atlantic City and Hollywood Florida pit prices are indeed around 600 $ each. I think it's because these are very small venues, not arenas or stadiums.

Btw anyone else having problems with ticketmaster? It has been a complete disaster for me since yesterday, always getting these messages " we can't process your order through this device" or just rejecting my card etc etc
yep, you are right....Small clubs pit tix are way up in price. All the stadium/arena pit tickets are in the 225 range. Not sure about ticketmaster....perhaps you should try to do your order over the phone? just an idea


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: GNR4L on June 04, 2021, 04:07:01 PM
Tried to get pit tickets for the Portland show... They were all sold out.  Got sec 101, Bottlerock and Portland can't wait!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 06, 2021, 07:05:11 AM
In the arenas, the pits are smaller than you might think. At least in 2019 they were. There's seats on the floor, so not a lot of room for the GAPIT area.






/jarmo





Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: GNR4L on June 06, 2021, 10:09:39 AM
In the arenas, the pits are smaller than you might think. At least in 2019 they were. There's seats on the floor, so not a lot of room for the GAPIT area.






/jarmo











Any idea on what the venue will be for the Vegas show?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 06, 2021, 10:48:53 AM
Not yet.







/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on June 06, 2021, 05:12:26 PM
Have to say I admire GNR for extending a hand to the Van Halen kid.  You're a class act GNR.  : ok:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: D-GenerationX on June 07, 2021, 01:43:47 PM

Any idea on what the venue will be for the Vegas show?


I wondered that myself.

Perhaps the Raiders don't want a bunch of GNR hooligans being the first fans in their stadium before their fans a few weeks later?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Spirit on June 07, 2021, 03:55:16 PM
The tour page on Slash's site says T-Mobile Arena.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: GNR4L on June 07, 2021, 03:56:43 PM

Any idea on what the venue will be for the Vegas show?


I wondered that myself.

Perhaps the Raiders don't want a bunch of GNR hooligans being the first fans in their stadium before their fans a few weeks later?



It would be cool if they played Allegiant.  Resorts World, Cosmo, Planet Hollywood, would be some cool venues to play, that GnR hasn't performed before.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 07, 2021, 05:58:57 PM
The tour page on Slash's site says T-Mobile Arena.

It used to say that on gunsnroses.com for a little bit, but it was removed. So it's probably old information, or wasn't 100% confirmed when they posted it.....





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: pilferk on June 07, 2021, 09:14:33 PM
The tour page on Slash's site says T-Mobile Arena.

GnR site said the same for a bit.  I suspect this is TBD based on construction progress.  It's gonna be close, I think.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: D-GenerationX on June 08, 2021, 06:16:36 AM
The tour page on Slash's site says T-Mobile Arena.

GnR site said the same for a bit.  I suspect this is TBD based on construction progress.  It's gonna be close, I think.

Are they actually still working on that place, even now??


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 08, 2021, 07:32:21 AM
T-Mobile Arena should be done by now. I guess when we had the shows there in April 2016, the paint was still kinda wet.

But on the 2017 tour it seemed fine... So I'm guessing it's been done for years by now.  :hihi:




Maybe there's confusion regarding the T-Mobile Arena (opened in 2016) and the Allegiant Stadium (opening in 2021).





/jarmo




Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on June 08, 2021, 08:15:28 AM
T-Mobile Arena should be done by now. I guess when we had the shows there in April 2016, the paint was still kinda wet.

But on the 2017 tour it seemed fine... So I'm guessing it's been done for years by now.  :hihi:




Maybe there's confusion regarding the T-Mobile Arena (opened in 2016) and the Allegiant Stadium (opening in 2021).





/jarmo




I would hope it is done since the Vegas Golden Knights have been playing there several years now. It is most likely the stadium they're confused with. That opened last July.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 08, 2021, 09:11:23 AM
https://twitter.com/gunsnroses/status/1402249416191393798


Guns N' Roses
@gunsnroses
·
9m
Las Vegas! The first ever rock show at @AllegiantStadm is coming. See you on 8/27. Nightrain pre-sale tomorrow, on-sale Saturday 10am local. https://gunsnroses.com/tour


---

Updated 2021 US tour dates:

USA 2021:

July 31st, 2021 - Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium

August 3rd, 2021 - Boston, MA @ Fenway Park
August 5th, 2021 - East Rutherford, NJ @ Metlife Stadium
August 8th, 2021 - Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
August 11th, 2021 - Fargo, ND @ FargoDome
August 13th, 2021 - Missoula, MT @ Grizzly Stadium
August 16th, 2021 - Commerce City, CO @ Dick's Sporting Goods Park
August 19th, 2021 - Los Angeles, CA @ Banc Of California Stadium
August 22nd, 2021 - Portland, OR @ Moda Center
August 25th, 2021 - San Jose, CA @ SAP Center at San Jose
August 27th, 2021 - Las Vegas NV @ Allegiant Stadium
August 30th, 2021 - Phoenix, AZ @ Phoenix Suns Arena

September 1st, 2021 - Dallas, TX @ American Airlines Center
September 4th, 2021 - Napa, CA @ Napa Valley Expo (BottleRock)
September 8th, 2021 - Indianapolis, IN @ Lucas Oil Stadium
September 11th, 2021 - Atlantic City, NJ @ Hard Rock Live at Etess Arena
September 12th, 2021 - Atlantic City, NJ @ Hard Rock Live at Etess Arena
September 16th, 2021 - Chicago, IL @ Wrigley Field
September 18th, 2021 - Milwaukee, WI @ American Family Insurance Amphitheater (Summerfest)
September 21st, 2021 - St Paul, MN @ Xcel Energy Center
September 23rd, 2021 - Columbus, OH @ The Schottenstein Center
September 26th, 2021 - Baltimore, MD @ Royal Farms Arena
September 29th, 2021 - Raleigh, NC @ PNC Arena

October 2nd, 2021 - Hollywood, FL @ The Hard Rock Live at the Seminole Hard Rock
October 3rd, 2021 - Hollywood, FL @ The Hard Rock Live at the Seminole Hard Rock





/jarmo





Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: D-GenerationX on June 08, 2021, 09:39:11 AM
That's awesome.

GNR fans can't be any crazier than Raiders fans, to be honest.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 08, 2021, 10:51:02 AM
https://twitter.com/axlrose/status/1402259968225681418









/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: pilferk on June 08, 2021, 02:15:15 PM
T-Mobile Arena should be done by now. I guess when we had the shows there in April 2016, the paint was still kinda wet.

But on the 2017 tour it seemed fine... So I'm guessing it's been done for years by now.  :hihi:




Maybe there's confusion regarding the T-Mobile Arena (opened in 2016) and the Allegiant Stadium (opening in 2021).





/jarmo




Sorry for the confusion, guys. I wasn't clear. The TBD was based on construction progress AT ALLEGIANT.

I know Tmobile is open, but Allegiant is due to open "soon".  I think the back and forth has been about which place they would play and whether Allegiant would be ready for a show in time. From what I had heard, they had "placeholdered" T mobile, just in case Allegiant wasn't ready.  That's likely why the site said Tmobile...and was then taken down. Allegiant wasn't officially taking bookings at that point.

Edit:
Reading through the rest of the thread, it looks like Allegiant will be ready!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: NaturalLight on June 08, 2021, 04:41:41 PM
https://twitter.com/gunsnroses/status/1402249416191393798


Guns N' Roses
@gunsnroses
·
9m
Las Vegas! The first ever rock show at @AllegiantStadm is coming. See you on 8/27. Nightrain pre-sale tomorrow, on-sale Saturday 10am local. https://gunsnroses.com/tour


---

Updated 2021 US tour dates:

USA 2021:

July 31st, 2021 - Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium

August 3rd, 2021 - Boston, MA @ Fenway Park
August 5th, 2021 - East Rutherford, NJ @ Metlife Stadium
August 8th, 2021 - Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
August 11th, 2021 - Fargo, ND @ FargoDome
August 13th, 2021 - Missoula, MT @ Grizzly Stadium
August 16th, 2021 - Commerce City, CO @ Dick's Sporting Goods Park
August 19th, 2021 - Los Angeles, CA @ Banc Of California Stadium
August 22nd, 2021 - Portland, OR @ Moda Center
August 25th, 2021 - San Jose, CA @ SAP Center at San Jose
August 27th, 2021 - Las Vegas NV @ Allegiant Stadium
August 30th, 2021 - Phoenix, AZ @ Phoenix Suns Arena

September 1st, 2021 - Dallas, TX @ American Airlines Center
September 4th, 2021 - Napa, CA @ Napa Valley Expo (BottleRock)
September 8th, 2021 - Indianapolis, IN @ Lucas Oil Stadium
September 11th, 2021 - Atlantic City, NJ @ Hard Rock Live at Etess Arena
September 12th, 2021 - Atlantic City, NJ @ Hard Rock Live at Etess Arena
September 16th, 2021 - Chicago, IL @ Wrigley Field
September 18th, 2021 - Milwaukee, WI @ American Family Insurance Amphitheater (Summerfest)
September 21st, 2021 - St Paul, MN @ Xcel Energy Center
September 23rd, 2021 - Columbus, OH @ The Schottenstein Center
September 26th, 2021 - Baltimore, MD @ Royal Farms Arena
September 29th, 2021 - Raleigh, NC @ PNC Arena

October 2nd, 2021 - Hollywood, FL @ The Hard Rock Live at the Seminole Hard Rock
October 3rd, 2021 - Hollywood, FL @ The Hard Rock Live at the Seminole Hard Rock





/jarmo





I wonder if they will book/announce any other dates, like Atlanta for example. Sadly, it doesn't look like there's much room left in the schedule unless they tack it on at the beginning or end (unless they want to do some back-to-back dates).


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on June 08, 2021, 09:29:00 PM
https://twitter.com/axlrose/status/1402259968225681418









/jarmo


He's alive!   :hihi:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 09, 2021, 01:11:32 PM
The Nightrain presale for Las Vegas is happening now. Good luck anyone taking part.  :peace:





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: GNR4L on June 09, 2021, 06:14:34 PM
The Nightrain presale for Las Vegas is happening now. Good luck anyone taking part.  :peace:





/jarmo



I got pit tix with the pre-sale, can't wait to head back to Sin City.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: axlroses on June 09, 2021, 06:32:10 PM
That should be awesome


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 09, 2021, 11:08:31 PM
The Nightrain presale for Las Vegas is happening now. Good luck anyone taking part.  :peace:





/jarmo



I got pit tix with the pre-sale, can't wait to head back to Sin City.
just curious....what was the cost of the pit?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: axlroses on June 09, 2021, 11:22:16 PM
It looked like $295…. Bigger venue and more pit space.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: GNR4L on June 10, 2021, 01:18:46 AM
The Nightrain presale for Las Vegas is happening now. Good luck anyone taking part.  :peace:





/jarmo



I got pit tix with the pre-sale, can't wait to head back to Sin City.
just curious....what was the cost of the pit?


I rejoined Nightrain at 40 dollars, so it came out to $392.00


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 20, 2021, 10:16:27 PM
Unfortunately due to financial reasons I had to at the last second grab a refund for the Detroit show. So if the ticketing is legit, I just released 2 pit tickets to the public, in case anyone wants to go try and get them at the face value. My refund just went through today, so hopefully one of us "real fans" can get em....


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 21, 2021, 09:53:11 AM
Unfortunately due to financial reasons I had to at the last second grab a refund for the Detroit show. So if the ticketing is legit, I just released 2 pit tickets to the public, in case anyone wants to go try and get them at the face value. My refund just went through today, so hopefully one of us "real fans" can get em....

Aww, that sucks. Hope you get a chance to see them as soon as possible.




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 21, 2021, 07:24:20 PM
Unfortunately due to financial reasons I had to at the last second grab a refund for the Detroit show. So if the ticketing is legit, I just released 2 pit tickets to the public, in case anyone wants to go try and get them at the face value. My refund just went through today, so hopefully one of us "real fans" can get em....

Aww, that sucks. Hope you get a chance to see them as soon as possible.




/jarmo

I still have pit tickets to Columbus, Ohio. I just couldn't justify doing both shows fiscally at the moment so I had to give up the Detroit show


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on June 22, 2021, 08:25:15 AM
Ahh, that's good.  : ok:




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: evander1129 on June 28, 2021, 10:44:07 AM
How is the tour selling. Looks like plenty of seats at met life still available.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 28, 2021, 10:54:20 PM
How is the tour selling. Looks like plenty of seats at met life still available.
I noticed that.....I am slightly worried ticket sales are going to be very low because of people still afraid, combo that with so many tours going on now. Only so much cash to go around for folks. I myself, had to give up my pit tickets for Detroit. I still have pit tickets for Columbus though.  Let's hope this all goes off as planned!!!!!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: PermissionToLand on June 29, 2021, 07:44:55 PM
I'm holding out for prices to come down but also to see what the setlist looks like. If it's largely unchanged, I'd have a hard time justifying it.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on June 30, 2021, 12:45:33 AM
I'm holding out for prices to come down but also to see what the setlist looks like. If it's largely unchanged, I'd have a hard time justifying it.
I see why you would say that and I agree. How many times can you see the same set list? Also with it being the 30 year anniversary of the Illusions, why not focus on those 2 albums for the majority of the songs. I'm not saying you won't play Paradise or Jungle. I just mean maybe do Dead Horse, Pretty tied up, and like The garden instead of some of the covers....


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: GNR4L on July 13, 2021, 11:53:25 AM
Been trying the last week to get a hold of Ticketmaster to exchange my seat for a Pit ticket... Automated e-mails, their Live Chat isn't working, can't call on the phone...... frustrating.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: axlroses on July 13, 2021, 12:01:24 PM
Basically with big companies it is nearly impossible to talk to a person


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on July 14, 2021, 12:16:08 AM
that sucks....are any pit tickets available though at this point?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: GNR4L on July 14, 2021, 10:47:07 AM
that sucks....are any pit tickets available though at this point?


I have pit for Vegas, trying to switch my seats for the Portland Oregon show.  It's showing they have some available.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Ali on July 17, 2021, 12:26:53 PM
Anyone else have any concerns that with rising case counts in many areas, some shows, at least indoor shows, maybe postponed?

Ali


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: NaturalLight on July 17, 2021, 06:34:50 PM
Anyone else have any concerns that with rising case counts in many areas, some shows, at least indoor shows, maybe postponed?

Ali

Not really.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on July 18, 2021, 11:13:44 PM
Anyone else have any concerns that with rising case counts in many areas, some shows, at least indoor shows, maybe postponed?

Ali
Nope!!!!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: PermissionToLand on July 18, 2021, 11:21:51 PM
Anyone else have any concerns that with rising case counts in many areas, some shows, at least indoor shows, maybe postponed?

Ali

Well, considering that the states having surges right now are lead by politicians who are not only against taking common sense precautions but in some cases denying the reality of the virus, probably not. If they don't care enough about their own state and citizens to actually fight the spread, they likely won't care about a concert.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on July 19, 2021, 04:38:16 AM
I would be shocked if any show gets postponed regardless of the state. If anything, i could see some states that actually give a damn require vaccine or negative tests to attend. Ticketmaster can't do it but local organizers and health officials absolutely can. Since almost 100% of new cases and hospitalizations are asking unvaccinated, leading to smaller outbreaks in lower vaccinated areas i don't see anything being postponed. If you're in a state where the leaders couldn't give a damn they'll happily sacrifice their unvaccinated citizens. Those of us that are vaccinated likely won't get it or will get a mild case.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: D-GenerationX on July 19, 2021, 02:13:26 PM
I would be shocked if any show gets postponed regardless of the state. If anything, i could see some states that actually give a damn require vaccine or negative tests to attend. Ticketmaster can't do it but local organizers and health officials absolutely can. Since almost 100% of new cases and hospitalizations are asking unvaccinated, leading to smaller outbreaks in lower vaccinated areas i don't see anything being postponed. If you're in a state where the leaders couldn't give a damn they'll happily sacrifice their unvaccinated citizens. Those of us that are vaccinated likely won't get it or will get a mild case.

I agree.  I think the cancellations and postponements are done. 

It sounds harsh, but the reality is that if you are still unprotected...that's kind of your problem.  Shots have been out there for months and are LITERALLY FREE.  I mean, if you can't be bothered, I don't think people are going to keep fretting about you.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on July 19, 2021, 07:31:56 PM
The only way i think a postponement will happen is if a band member gets covid or someone within the band organization, like with the Foo Fighters. They had to postpone a show due to a positive test.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on July 19, 2021, 09:07:41 PM
I would be shocked if any show gets postponed regardless of the state. If anything, i could see some states that actually give a damn require vaccine or negative tests to attend. Ticketmaster can't do it but local organizers and health officials absolutely can. Since almost 100% of new cases and hospitalizations are asking unvaccinated, leading to smaller outbreaks in lower vaccinated areas i don't see anything being postponed. If you're in a state where the leaders couldn't give a damn they'll happily sacrifice their unvaccinated citizens. Those of us that are vaccinated likely won't get it or will get a mild case.

I agree.  I think the cancellations and postponements are done.  

It sounds harsh, but the reality is that if you are still unprotected...that's kind of your problem.  Shots have been out there for months and are LITERALLY FREE.  I mean, if you can't be bothered, I don't think people are going to keep fretting about you.

Agreed, many of them are the anti mask, anti lockdown people. If they won't do the responsible thing i have no sympathy left for them. Darwinism will take over. If they can't even do it to protect immunocompromised people then they're not worth concerning myself with.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on July 19, 2021, 11:18:16 PM
I would be shocked if any show gets postponed regardless of the state. If anything, i could see some states that actually give a damn require vaccine or negative tests to attend. Ticketmaster can't do it but local organizers and health officials absolutely can. Since almost 100% of new cases and hospitalizations are asking unvaccinated, leading to smaller outbreaks in lower vaccinated areas i don't see anything being postponed. If you're in a state where the leaders couldn't give a damn they'll happily sacrifice their unvaccinated citizens. Those of us that are vaccinated likely won't get it or will get a mild case.

I agree.  I think the cancellations and postponements are done. 

It sounds harsh, but the reality is that if you are still unprotected...that's kind of your problem.  Shots have been out there for months and are LITERALLY FREE.  I mean, if you can't be bothered, I don't think people are going to keep fretting about you.

Agreed, many of them are the entire mask, anti lockdown people. If they won't do the responsible thing i have no sympathy left for them. Darwinism will take over. If they can't even do it to protect immunocompromised people then they're not worth concerning myself with.
Yeah....screw the politics or which side of the fence your on, no more of a concern for me.......let's do this tour!!!!! We need this G N F'N R Live.  Damn it!!!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: PermissionToLand on July 21, 2021, 12:47:44 AM
Agreed, many of them are the anti mask, anti lockdown people. If they won't do the responsible thing i have no sympathy left for them. Darwinism will take over. If they can't even do it to protect immunocompromised people then they're not worth concerning myself with.

Well the only problem with that is we're seeing new mutations develop among the unvaccinated, which we can't predict how the existing vaccines may respond to.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on July 21, 2021, 01:43:36 AM
Agreed, many of them are the anti mask, anti lockdown people. If they won't do the responsible thing i have no sympathy left for them. Darwinism will take over. If they can't even do it to protect immunocompromised people then they're not worth concerning myself with.

Well the only problem with that is we're seeing new mutations develop among the unvaccinated, which we can't predict how the existing vaccines may respond to.

True unfortunately it is inevitable unless we reach a high enough vaccination rate to stop them. Which isn't going to happen due to the mass misinformation about the vaccine. It will be a continuous cat and mouse game. Fortunately can make a booster for new variants quite quickly when needed.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: evander1129 on July 22, 2021, 11:17:26 AM
Looks like ticketmaster has lowered pricing for METLIFE show.  I have 4 tix that cost me 250 + fees so almost 1300 for 4 seats.  Can now buy same section for 167+fees 836.00 total. OVER 400.00 less.  So pissed.  Hopefully this jumpstarts ticket sales but we all should get refunded, I know we won't.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: pilferk on July 22, 2021, 12:32:33 PM
Looks like ticketmaster has lowered pricing for METLIFE show.  I have 4 tix that cost me 250 + fees so almost 1300 for 4 seats.  Can now buy same section for 167+fees 836.00 total. OVER 400.00 less.  So pissed.  Hopefully this jumpstarts ticket sales but we all should get refunded, I know we won't.

This is TM's brilliant demand based pricing system.  It's been around for awhile now, and this is exactly the type of thing it leads to: Early ticket buyers pay higher prices than those that buy later, assuming there are seats left.

It's dumb, it's consumer hostile, and it does nobody any favors!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on July 22, 2021, 09:01:20 PM
It should be illegal to use an algorithm to change the prices based on demand.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: D-GenerationX on July 23, 2021, 09:37:12 AM
Looks like ticketmaster has lowered pricing for METLIFE show.  I have 4 tix that cost me 250 + fees so almost 1300 for 4 seats.  Can now buy same section for 167+fees 836.00 total. OVER 400.00 less.  So pissed.  Hopefully this jumpstarts ticket sales but we all should get refunded, I know we won't.

This is TM's brilliant demand based pricing system.  It's been around for awhile now, and this is exactly the type of thing it leads to: Early ticket buyers pay higher prices than those that buy later, assuming there are seats left.

It's dumb, it's consumer hostile, and it does nobody any favors!

Yeah, it sucks.

Thing is, when it is your favorite band, you are never going to risk the wait.  I mean, I could never do it.  I'd want my tickets in hand, ASAP.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: PermissionToLand on July 23, 2021, 06:13:45 PM
It should be illegal to use an algorithm to change the prices based on demand.

Supply and demand, that's (at least theoretically) how everything works in a capitalist economy.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: evander1129 on July 23, 2021, 06:44:52 PM
I get supply and demand and rather have place filled.   Just how much cheaper is crazy. Not talking 10 or 20.00 cheaper. Over 100.00 a ticket cheaper after fees. And best seats in place. Should give us free drink ticket or a concert t.  Lol


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on July 27, 2021, 10:20:13 AM
Facebook changed how you find live streams or I've forgotten how to do it.  Anybody know how?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Ali on July 27, 2021, 05:45:54 PM
The CDC has revised their guidance in light of increasing case counts. I think that the way things are headed, either proof of vaccination will be required for entry in some areas, or some shows will be outright postponed or canceled. Is anyone else feeling less comfortable with going to a show, indoors at least, given the situation with the virus?

Ali


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: doooodickiebr on July 27, 2021, 05:50:35 PM
The CDC has revised their guidance in light of increasing case counts. I think that the way things are headed, either proof of vaccination will be required for entry in some areas, or some shows will be outright postponed or canceled. Is anyone else feeling less comfortable with going to a show, indoors at least, given the situation with the virus?

Ali

Unfortunately...I think you're correct. >:(



Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rizzo160 on July 27, 2021, 07:31:18 PM
I think instead of postponing shows they will have it where you have to show proof of vaccination. :beer:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on July 28, 2021, 12:04:11 AM
I think instead of postponing shows they will have it where you have to show proof of vaccination. :beer:

Doesn't mean you won't get it or can't be a carrier.  It's suppose to mean you won't get it as bad and end up in the hospital if you do get it.  I think the most you will see is masks being required for everybody.

Wonder what steps the band is taking to protect themselves?  If they have requirements for employees, staying back from the front of the stage, eliminating that walk out section out front, testing people, having back up players incase somebody tests positive, stuff like that.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on July 28, 2021, 12:30:02 AM
The arena they're playing here in Dallas only requires non vaccinated people to wear masks. That could change in light of the updates guidelines. I'd like to see masks required and either vaccination or negative test required by the promoter or band.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: PermissionToLand on July 28, 2021, 01:48:08 AM
Doesn't mean you won't get it or can't be a carrier.  It's suppose to mean you won't get it as bad and end up in the hospital if you do get it.  I think the most you will see is masks being required for everybody.

Edit: Turns out I am wrong in regard to the Delta variant.

As I understand it, even if you catch it despite being vaccinated, there is not enough of the virus in your lungs to infect somebody else.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on July 28, 2021, 07:41:32 AM
Doesn't mean you won't get it or can't be a carrier.  It's suppose to mean you won't get it as bad and end up in the hospital if you do get it.  I think the most you will see is masks being required for everybody.

As I understand it, even if you catch it despite being vaccinated, there is not enough of the virus in your lungs to infect somebody else.

Right, the viral load in your nasal pharynx is significantly reduced.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on July 28, 2021, 09:00:26 AM
Doesn't mean you won't get it or can't be a carrier.  It's suppose to mean you won't get it as bad and end up in the hospital if you do get it.  I think the most you will see is masks being required for everybody.

As I understand it, even if you catch it despite being vaccinated, there is not enough of the virus in your lungs to infect somebody else.

Then why are they requiring vaccinated people to mask up?  It's all so confusing with everybody making up their own rules.  I still have a University requiring to wipe surfaces down.  Didn't think that was happening any where.  Personally, I stay away from big event areas in the city area because of the violence going on along the way to get there.  Has nothing to do with covid.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: russkwtx on July 28, 2021, 02:11:16 PM
Even before the surge in Delta variant infections in the US, I had a feeling that going to a mass event while a pandemic is still going on is not the best of ideas, even though I am vaccinated. For that reason, I decided to skip the GNR show when they come to Dallas in September, although that decision pains me. But now with the surge accelerating and cities going back to mask mandates and talk of vaccine mandates (which I doubt cities can implement), I feel prescient.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: draguns on July 28, 2021, 06:13:02 PM
The way I see it is that I'm already taking a chance on getting COVID by commuting into NYC for work. I take NJ Transit bus. Every day, I see people enter the bus with masks on. When they sit, the mask comes off or  people lower it to their chins. At the Port Authority, I'm. starting to see people not wearing masks at all. For both NJ Transit bus and Port Authority, it is  required.

I'm fully vaccinated along with my childhood friend. For the MetLife show, we've decided to put the masks on when we enter MetLife. the numbers of cases has risen by a lot in NJ. 


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: PermissionToLand on July 28, 2021, 08:03:26 PM
Then why are they requiring vaccinated people to mask up?  It's all so confusing with everybody making up their own rules.  I still have a University requiring to wipe surfaces down.  Didn't think that was happening any where.  Personally, I stay away from big event areas in the city area because of the violence going on along the way to get there.  Has nothing to do with covid.

If you're referring to mask mandates being reinstated, that's because of the unvaccinated, who have not followed the honor system most of the country is going by at the moment. If you can't trust the unvaccinated to mask up, then you just have to make it mandatory.

If you're avoiding cities because of "violence" you might need to reassess your media diet.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: GNRMTL on July 29, 2021, 03:27:22 PM
Bad obsession
Brownstone
Easy
New song
Crazy
Used to love here
Welcome to the jungle
You could be mine
New song
Guitar solo  sweet child
You ain’t the first
Patience
November rain
Chinese democracy

Encore
Civil war
Night train
Estranged
Don’t cry/ Knocking  Alt
Out to get me /Nice boys/Mama kin. Alt
Paradise city


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: pilferk on July 29, 2021, 05:42:25 PM
Then why are they requiring vaccinated people to mask up?  It's all so confusing with everybody making up their own rules.  I still have a University requiring to wipe surfaces down.  Didn't think that was happening any where.  Personally, I stay away from big event areas in the city area because of the violence going on along the way to get there.  Has nothing to do with covid.

For a couple of reasons:

1) There is no way to tell who is and who is not vaccinated.  And there are a lot of "I identify as vaccinated" people out there who aren't, but aren't masking up.  This removes anyone's requirement to validate or verify or guess at someone's vaccination status.  Everyone wears masks or they get put out the door.

2) Vaccinated people can be asymptomatic and spread the virus.  Theres a new study out that may indicate that infected asymptomatic vaccinated people shed the virus at the same levels unvaccinated people do.  And those vaccinated people have no idea they are sick, so.....there you go.  The science is still being reviewed, so it may turn out to be incorrect, but at this point you have to be cautious.

3) Because if we don't get this shit under control, the unvaccinated will continue to be breading grounds for variants, and we'll go round and round at this forever.  It needs to be nipped in the bud, and it's pretty obvious that masks help restrict spread.  So....we go back to it until we can reverse course.

There are some very interesting stats that are about to come out.  I'll give you a little preview:

You are 17 times more likely to get infected with Covid if you are unvaccinated.  In terms of numbers, out of 100 infections, only about 6 are unvaccinated (actually, its about 5.53...I'm rounding for easy math).

You are just about 49 times more likely to be hospitalized, if you are infected, if you are unvaccinated.  In terms of numbers, that means out of 100 hospitalizations, 2 are vaccinated (and, actually, it's 1.6...I'm rounding for easy math).

Mortality for vaccinated people is almost 0 percent.  Let me reemphasize that: Out of 100 deaths, about .15 of them are vaccinated.  Translated, that means only about 1 in 700 COVID mortalities are vaccinated...and that number is trending down.  There are about a dozen states where, in July, there was NOT ONE SINGLE VACCINATED MORTALITY. 

Think about that for a second.



Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rizzo160 on July 29, 2021, 07:42:49 PM
Lalopozza is begining in Chicago with over 100,000 people going.  GNR concerts are on average 40,000 so I think they will go off without any restrictions. :beer:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on July 30, 2021, 12:58:34 AM
Then why are they requiring vaccinated people to mask up?  It's all so confusing with everybody making up their own rules.  I still have a University requiring to wipe surfaces down.  Didn't think that was happening any where.  Personally, I stay away from big event areas in the city area because of the violence going on along the way to get there.  Has nothing to do with covid.

For a couple of reasons:

1) There is no way to tell who is and who is not vaccinated.  And there are a lot of "I identify as vaccinated" people out there who aren't, but aren't masking up.  This removes anyone's requirement to validate or verify or guess at someone's vaccination status.  Everyone wears masks or they get put out the door.

2) Vaccinated people can be asymptomatic and spread the virus.  Theres a new study out that may indicate that infected asymptomatic vaccinated people shed the virus at the same levels unvaccinated people do.  And those vaccinated people have no idea they are sick, so.....there you go.  The science is still being reviewed, so it may turn out to be incorrect, but at this point you have to be cautious.

3) Because if we don't get this shit under control, the unvaccinated will continue to be breading grounds for variants, and we'll go round and round at this forever.  It needs to be nipped in the bud, and it's pretty obvious that masks help restrict spread.  So....we go back to it until we can reverse course.

There are some very interesting stats that are about to come out.  I'll give you a little preview:

You are 17 times more likely to get infected with Covid if you are unvaccinated.  In terms of numbers, out of 100 infections, only about 6 are unvaccinated (actually, its about 5.53...I'm rounding for easy math).

You are just about 49 times more likely to be hospitalized, if you are infected, if you are unvaccinated.  In terms of numbers, that means out of 100 hospitalizations, 2 are vaccinated (and, actually, it's 1.6...I'm rounding for easy math).

Mortality for vaccinated people is almost 0 percent.  Let me reemphasize that: Out of 100 deaths, about .15 of them are vaccinated.  Translated, that means only about 1 in 700 COVID mortalities are vaccinated...and that number is trending down.  There are about a dozen states where, in July, there was NOT ONE SINGLE VACCINATED MORTALITY. 

Think about that for a second.



This is exactly why i'll be masking up at the show September 1st. Delta + lagging vaccine rates are not a good combo. Especially in states with covidiot governors like mine who have banned mask mandates. Because of these idiots we'll be playing cat and mouse with covid for some time. Vaccine rates are rising in states and areas with the highest spread but i'm not sure if it will rise fast enough to slow down the current wave. I feel so bad for kids in states where masks are banned. They are being sacrificed for political points to own the libs.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: MHC on July 30, 2021, 09:47:37 PM
I feel so bad for kids in states where masks are banned. They are being sacrificed for political points to own the libs.

Haha, masks aren’t banned in any states!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: PermissionToLand on July 30, 2021, 10:24:50 PM

2) Vaccinated people can be asymptomatic and spread the virus.  Theres a new study out that may indicate that infected asymptomatic vaccinated people shed the virus at the same levels unvaccinated people do.  And those vaccinated people have no idea they are sick, so.....there you go.  The science is still being reviewed, so it may turn out to be incorrect, but at this point you have to be cautious.

Yeah, I retract my earlier comment because (maybe the study you're referring to) it turns out that the new Delta variant is very much transmissible by vaccinated people.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: doooodickiebr on July 31, 2021, 11:03:08 AM
Alright guys and gals......

This is the day. Can't wait for updates


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 11:21:37 AM
Alright guys and gals......

This is the day. Can't wait for updates

Hoping Gypsy has her game face on.  Need me some GNR!  It's been so long.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on July 31, 2021, 11:25:11 AM
I'm shocked there's no update thread yet.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 12:33:45 PM
Bottle Rock is requiring proof of vaccination or a negative test. I suspect that this won't be the last show to do this. I won't be surprised if this evolves to requiring proof of vaccination.

Ali


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: gunsbetterthanever on July 31, 2021, 01:02:05 PM
Bad obsession
Brownstone
Easy
New song
Crazy
Used to love here
Welcome to the jungle
You could be mine
New song
Guitar solo  sweet child
You ain’t the first
Patience
November rain
Chinese democracy

Encore
Night train
Estranged
Don’t cry/ Knocking  Alt
Out to get me /Nice boys/Mama kin. Alt
Paradise city



Oh yes.  I would love to to see this set list:

I want dead horse again too.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Bodhi on August 01, 2021, 12:20:20 PM
Anybody get any pictures of the merch tables?  Sorry if it was already posted and I missed it.  Looking forward to the show this week!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on August 01, 2021, 12:45:01 PM
Anybody get any pictures of the merch tables?  Sorry if it was already posted and I missed it.  Looking forward to the show this week!

They're selling them online apparently to avoid large lines at merch stands. https://gnrtourtruck.com/


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Bodhi on August 01, 2021, 12:53:41 PM
Anybody get any pictures of the merch tables?  Sorry if it was already posted and I missed it.  Looking forward to the show this week!

They're selling them online apparently to avoid large lines at merch stands. https://gnrtourtruck.com/

Ok cool thanks! 


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on August 03, 2021, 02:12:21 AM
I got a refund for the Detroit show because of the rescheduling. However, I just looked and you can now get GA pit for 89 bucks? I guess this city isn't selling well or whatever. Damn, now I am scrambling and thinking about going again to this show.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: evander1129 on August 03, 2021, 08:51:18 AM
None of the cities are selling well.  They started the pricing way to high and now the delta strain that they are trying to scare us with.   Metlift tix I paid 300.00 for with fees are now less than 200.  and upper deck is 29.00.   Fenway I can get face value tix right next to stage.  Stadium tour with no new album during pandemic, not a great call.  Should have postponed til 2022 like poison/crue did.   Hope I am wrong but I think met life is going to be a ghost town.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on August 03, 2021, 01:44:55 PM
If they're not selling well, I'm still open for paying for some live streams.  I could use an upgrade on my viewing experience.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: gnrrock on August 03, 2021, 02:27:33 PM
None of the cities are selling well.  They started the pricing way to high and now the delta strain that they are trying to scare us with.   Metlift tix I paid 300.00 for with fees are now less than 200.  and upper deck is 29.00.   Fenway I can get face value tix right next to stage.  Stadium tour with no new album during pandemic, not a great call.  Should have postponed til 2022 like poison/crue did.   Hope I am wrong but I think met life is going to be a ghost town.

Not sure this statement is entirely accurate in regard to “none of the cities are selling well”. I can’t speak for all shows but the one I’m going to is doing really well. Hershey did great as well.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: icpillusions on August 03, 2021, 02:32:25 PM
None of the cities are selling well.  They started the pricing way to high and now the delta strain that they are trying to scare us with.   Metlift tix I paid 300.00 for with fees are now less than 200.  and upper deck is 29.00.   Fenway I can get face value tix right next to stage.  Stadium tour with no new album during pandemic, not a great call.  Should have postponed til 2022 like poison/crue did.   Hope I am wrong but I think met life is going to be a ghost town.
!
Not sure this statement is entirely accurate in regard to “none of the cities are selling well”. I can’t speak for all shows but the one I’m going to is doing really well. Hershey did great as well.

Hershey was filled. Last 2 sections were taped off. But more people were allowed in the rear general admission.

Gnrtourtruck.com has the Boston merchandise available. Sweet design!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Bodhi on August 03, 2021, 03:23:36 PM
Metlife seems to be selling well, but they did drop prices.  My ticket is selling for less than I paid originally but that’s how it goes with the new ticketmaster policy.  Im on the lower level but I’m trying to get in the PIT, but those are still like 400 bucks.  I may try to upgrade at the show, I’m going solo, so it may be easier to upgrade to a random solo seat.   I’m really looking forward to the show, can’t wait !


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: johnreed3344 on August 03, 2021, 04:40:44 PM
Metlife seems to be selling well, but they did drop prices.  My ticket is selling for less than I paid originally but that’s how it goes with the new ticketmaster policy.  Im on the lower level but I’m trying to get in the PIT, but those are still like 400 bucks.  I may try to upgrade at the show, I’m going solo, so it may be easier to upgrade to a random solo seat.   I’m really looking forward to the show, can’t wait !

i'd be pretty shocked if METLIFE isnt almost sold out. NYC crowd always shows up......CANT WAIT dusting off the vest and will start drinking around 1pm  :hihi:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Apple7 on August 03, 2021, 11:30:53 PM
This was already posted? really or fake ? I just saw it, this year they will play it for sure...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9dqYYsCvHU



Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rizzo160 on August 04, 2021, 09:23:47 PM
It's real, the last post was taken down :beer:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on August 05, 2021, 09:34:46 AM
Based on 6pm start tonight, assume Guns takes stage at 8? Do you think any earlier?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: johnreed3344 on August 05, 2021, 10:44:06 AM
Based on 6pm start tonight, assume Guns takes stage at 8? Do you think any earlier?

745 Guns tonight


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: D-GenerationX on August 05, 2021, 01:46:17 PM
This was already posted? really or fake ? I just saw it, this year they will play it for sure...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9dqYYsCvHU



What was this?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Ginger King on August 05, 2021, 02:42:57 PM
This was already posted? really or fake ? I just saw it, this year they will play it for sure...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9dqYYsCvHU



What was this?

Hardschool sound check from Hershey.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: gnrrock on August 05, 2021, 03:04:06 PM
Random question. Anyone know if the intro music changed for this tour?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on August 05, 2021, 03:08:35 PM
Random question. Anyone know if the intro music changed for this tour?


McBob is doing an intro....




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: D-GenerationX on August 05, 2021, 03:30:33 PM
Random question. Anyone know if the intro music changed for this tour?


McBob is doing an intro....


Happy about that.  He's awesome.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rizzo160 on August 05, 2021, 03:39:49 PM
Random question. Anyone know if the intro music changed for this tour?


McBob is doing an intro....
Any new songs tonight 😃   :beer:



/jarmo



Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rizzo160 on August 09, 2021, 08:57:26 PM
Anybody hear if the tour is getting cancelled due to COVID-19? :beer:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: axlroses on August 09, 2021, 11:31:45 PM
Crickets…. No rumblings about San Jose show or BottleRock in California


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: axlroses on August 10, 2021, 01:03:25 AM
Also locally Pebble Beach car show and Monterey Jazz Festival still on…on a day to day basis I think


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: GNRVahland on August 10, 2021, 02:09:07 AM
Random question. Anyone know if the intro music changed for this tour?

+1 and not that random at all:

Is it the still the orchestral The General.... or a changed The General ....or completely different ?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: jarmo on August 10, 2021, 08:17:14 AM
Random question. Anyone know if the intro music changed for this tour?

+1 and not that random at all:

Is it the still the orchestral The General.... or a changed The General ....or completely different ?


McBob did the intros the first shows, now it's a video intro.





/jarmo


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Ali on August 10, 2021, 10:06:59 AM
Also locally Pebble Beach car show and Monterey Jazz Festival still on…on a day to day basis I think
I think that it would not be surprising if these got canceled. Many tours and festivals have been canceled or postponed.

Ali


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on August 10, 2021, 10:22:24 AM
At the very least i would expect them to seriously consider mask mandates and negative covid test or vaccine to attend. It is the best way to keep everyone as safe as possible without postponing.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: D-GenerationX on August 10, 2021, 10:45:19 AM
At the very least i would expect them to seriously consider mask mandates and negative covid test or vaccine to attend. It is the best way to keep everyone as safe as possible without postponing.

Good luck enforcing a mask mandate past the front gate though.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on August 15, 2021, 04:38:39 PM
To anyone else from the board planning on going to the Dallas show. The venue is now requiring masks at all times regardless of your vaccination status, unless you are at your seat actively eating or drinking. So bring a mask!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Ali on August 15, 2021, 04:53:27 PM
To anyone else from the board planning on going to the Dallas show. The venue is now requiring masks at all times regardless of your vaccination status, unless you are at your seat actively eating or drinking. So bring a mask!
No offense to anyone going to this show, but given the rampant spread in Texas, I question how prudent it is to have this show, even with masks and vaccine mandates. I lived in Texas for 5 years, and I have many friends there. It brings me no pleasure to say that. I just would hate it if a GN'R show made a bad situation worse.

Ali


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on August 15, 2021, 05:17:48 PM
To anyone else from the board planning on going to the Dallas show. The venue is now requiring masks at all times regardless of your vaccination status, unless you are at your seat actively eating or drinking. So bring a mask!
No offense to anyone going to this show, but given the rampant spread in Texas, I question how prudent it is to have this show, even with masks and vaccine mandates. I lived in Texas for 5 years, and I have many friends there. It brings me no pleasure to say that. I just would hate it if a GN'R show made a bad situation worse.

Ali
I get your point but it obviously isn't going to be cancelled. So at least they're trying to make it as safe as possible. Texas is doing better then most southern states as far as vaccines though, especially lately. We will be close to 50% if not over by the end of the month. We're currently 45.2% fully vaccinated and over 54% with one shot. Florida is the real disaster area. 25k new cases yesterday. They account for 18% of all new cases. That is staggering.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: NaturalLight on August 16, 2021, 09:19:47 AM
To anyone else from the board planning on going to the Dallas show. The venue is now requiring masks at all times regardless of your vaccination status, unless you are at your seat actively eating or drinking. So bring a mask!

Haha, yeah this will be enforced alright. Right up until the ticket is scanned.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: D-GenerationX on August 16, 2021, 01:50:34 PM
To anyone else from the board planning on going to the Dallas show. The venue is now requiring masks at all times regardless of your vaccination status, unless you are at your seat actively eating or drinking. So bring a mask!

Haha, yeah this will be enforced alright. Right up until the ticket is scanned.

Yeah, past the front gate...good luck.

My concern?  Fights in the stands.  Between mask white knights and "defenders of liberty" that "did their own research". 

Could get ugly.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Bodhi on August 16, 2021, 02:06:49 PM
To anyone else from the board planning on going to the Dallas show. The venue is now requiring masks at all times regardless of your vaccination status, unless you are at your seat actively eating or drinking. So bring a mask!

Haha, yeah this will be enforced alright. Right up until the ticket is scanned.

Yeah, past the front gate...good luck.

My concern?  Fights in the stands.  Between mask white knights and "defenders of liberty" that "did their own research".  

Could get ugly.

Yes, my guess is the stadium won’t even bother trying to enforce that past the front gate, if that.  I just saw The Hella Mega Tour at Hershey with 30,000 fans, there was no mask mandate but even if there was they did not have the resources to even stop the small amount of people smoking let alone police 30,000 mostly drunk rock fans.  Nobody working at these stadiums is going to put their safety at risk to go after someone not wearing a mask.  Also it’s not going to be a few fans not wearing them, it’s going to be the vast majority.  The idea of enforcing this at a rock show is not realistic. 


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on August 16, 2021, 05:35:33 PM
Live nation is going to be requiring vaccine proof as of October 4th, except in areas where law prohibits it.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: D-GenerationX on August 17, 2021, 10:24:36 AM
Live nation is going to be requiring vaccine proof as of October 4th, except in areas where law prohibits it.

Yep.  Going to be the way of the world.

Get your shots, kids.  Or learn to love your house.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: NaturalLight on August 17, 2021, 12:02:37 PM
Live nation is going to be requiring vaccine proof as of October 4th, except in areas where law prohibits it.

Yep.  Going to be the way of the world.

Get your shots, kids.  Or learn to love your house.

Naw the vaccine cards are a joke and you fill them out yourself. If I was underage and tried to buy beer with something a cheap looking they’d call the police. You can make these things in any computer.  And yes, I did get the shots.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: pilferk on August 17, 2021, 12:09:59 PM
Naw the vaccine cards are a joke and you fill them out yourself. If I was underage and tried to buy beer with something a cheap looking they’d call the police. You can make these things in any computer.  And yes, I did get the shots.

And if you get caught doing it....it's a 5k fine for forging a federal seal (the CDC logo).

I know, I know...but I'm just saying.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: NaturalLight on August 17, 2021, 12:24:06 PM
Naw the vaccine cards are a joke and you fill them out yourself. If I was underage and tried to buy beer with something a cheap looking they’d call the police. You can make these things in any computer.  And yes, I did get the shots.

And if you get caught doing it....it's a 5k fine for forging a federal seal (the CDC logo).

I know, I know...but I'm just saying.

I’m not encouraging it.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: pilferk on August 17, 2021, 02:17:18 PM
Naw the vaccine cards are a joke and you fill them out yourself. If I was underage and tried to buy beer with something a cheap looking they’d call the police. You can make these things in any computer.  And yes, I did get the shots.

And if you get caught doing it....it's a 5k fine for forging a federal seal (the CDC logo).

I know, I know...but I'm just saying.

I’m not encouraging it.

I know, but I figure if we're going to talk about it....we should lay out the potential consequences, too!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Ali on August 17, 2021, 05:16:26 PM
To anyone else from the board planning on going to the Dallas show. The venue is now requiring masks at all times regardless of your vaccination status, unless you are at your seat actively eating or drinking. So bring a mask!
No offense to anyone going to this show, but given the rampant spread in Texas, I question how prudent it is to have this show, even with masks and vaccine mandates. I lived in Texas for 5 years, and I have many friends there. It brings me no pleasure to say that. I just would hate it if a GN'R show made a bad situation worse.

Ali
I get your point but it obviously isn't going to be cancelled. So at least they're trying to make it as safe as possible. Texas is doing better then most southern states as far as vaccines though, especially lately. We will be close to 50% if not over by the end of the month. We're currently 45.2% fully vaccinated and over 54% with one shot. Florida is the real disaster area. 25k new cases yesterday. They account for 18% of all new cases. That is staggering.
I don't realistically expect cancelation. I just would hate to see my favorite band associated with any sort of spreading event. Respectfully, while Texas is better than some Southern states, that is not great overall. My county has 80% of everyone 12 and older vaccinated. I hope that you and all my friends in Texas stay safe. I just hope that the hospitals there can endure the surge.

Ali


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: NaturalLight on August 17, 2021, 06:19:56 PM
Naw the vaccine cards are a joke and you fill them out yourself. If I was underage and tried to buy beer with something a cheap looking they’d call the police. You can make these things in any computer.  And yes, I did get the shots.

And if you get caught doing it....it's a 5k fine for forging a federal seal (the CDC logo).

I know, I know...but I'm just saying.

I’m not encouraging it.

I know, but I figure if we're going to talk about it....we should lay out the potential consequences, too!

I gotcha. Although I think unless you’re trying to get on an airplane or into a federal building no one is gonna prosecute. They really should have been entering these into a system that you can download later because some places want the actual card and if you lose it then you’re screwed.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Jsz on August 17, 2021, 06:21:48 PM
LA just announced a mask mandate for outdoor events including concerts...

https://www.foxla.com/news/los-angeles-county-mandates-masks-outdoors-for-mega-events

It starts Thursday @ 11:59pm.... ~ 1 hour after Guns should be going off stage!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on August 17, 2021, 07:52:16 PM
To anyone else from the board planning on going to the Dallas show. The venue is now requiring masks at all times regardless of your vaccination status, unless you are at your seat actively eating or drinking. So bring a mask!
No offense to anyone going to this show, but given the rampant spread in Texas, I question how prudent it is to have this show, even with masks and vaccine mandates. I lived in Texas for 5 years, and I have many friends there. It brings me no pleasure to say that. I just would hate it if a GN'R show made a bad situation worse.

Ali
I get your point but it obviously isn't going to be cancelled. So at least they're trying to make it as safe as possible. Texas is doing better then most southern states as far as vaccines though, especially lately. We will be close to 50% if not over by the end of the month. We're currently 45.2% fully vaccinated and over 54% with one shot. Florida is the real disaster area. 25k new cases yesterday. They account for 18% of all new cases. That is staggering.
I don't realistically expect cancelation. I just would hate to see my favorite band associated with any sort of spreading event. Respectfully, while Texas is better than some Southern states, that is not great overall. My county has 80% of everyone 12 and older vaccinated. I hope that you and all my friends in Texas stay safe. I just hope that the hospitals there can endure the surge.
.
Ali
We just need to up the vaccination rate. Is our way out of this. It's been increasing quite a bit lately but not as fast as I'd like. At least it's going up faster then it was. On a side note our governor got covid today.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: D-GenerationX on August 18, 2021, 11:29:16 AM
Naw the vaccine cards are a joke and you fill them out yourself. If I was underage and tried to buy beer with something a cheap looking they’d call the police. You can make these things in any computer.  And yes, I did get the shots.

And if you get caught doing it....it's a 5k fine for forging a federal seal (the CDC logo).

I know, I know...but I'm just saying.

Holy shit, it's 5 grand???

Well, guess you have to really bring down the hammer.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rizzo160 on August 18, 2021, 06:56:12 PM
Garth Brooks is canceling his stadium tour...could Guns be next? :beer:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: GingerGringo92 on August 18, 2021, 07:01:01 PM
After tomorrow the next show on a Thursday night where they could announce a midnight Friday release is September 16th in Chicago... the day before the uyi 30th anniversary.  If it isn't tomorrow night that they play hardschool then it is the 16th of september with a new album dropping that night


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Ali on August 18, 2021, 09:08:04 PM
Garth Brooks is canceling his stadium tour...could Guns be next? :beer:

Yes. It is possible.

Ali


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on August 18, 2021, 09:56:48 PM
Garth Brooks is canceling his stadium tour...could Guns be next? :beer:

Yes. It is possible.

Ali

At the moment i would still be surprised if they do.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Ali on August 19, 2021, 12:04:39 AM
Garth Brooks is canceling his stadium tour...could Guns be next? :beer:

Yes. It is possible.

Ali

At the moment i would still be surprised if they do.
I would be surprised too if all dates were canceled. But, if a major act like Garth Brooks does it, it is possible that some dates could be.

Ali


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on August 19, 2021, 12:13:15 AM
the vaccine rate is high enough. People can either trust or not trust in things, it is on them. Let's do this!!!!! Gnr tour 2021! I patiently await Columbus in September!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on August 19, 2021, 12:17:36 AM
the vaccine rate is high enough. People can either trust or not trust in things, it is on them. Let's do this!!!!! Gnr tour 2021! I patiently await Columbus in September!
I wish that were true in all states. In the south it is sill pretty low in a number of states/


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on August 19, 2021, 12:48:33 AM
the vaccine rate is high enough. People can either trust or not trust in things, it is on them. Let's do this!!!!! Gnr tour 2021! I patiently await Columbus in September!
I wish that were true in all states. In the south it is sill pretty low in a number of states/

Side note, the flu rate went way down when we were all home last year.  Don't forget that vaccine if you're running around in a crowd without a mask.  Keep your cooties to yourself.  :hihi:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on August 19, 2021, 01:36:57 AM
the vaccine rate is high enough. People can either trust or not trust in things, it is on them. Let's do this!!!!! Gnr tour 2021! I patiently await Columbus in September!
I wish that were true in all states. In the south it is sill pretty low in a number of states/

Side note, the flu rate went way down when we were all home last year.  Don't forget that vaccine if you're running around in a crowd without a mask.  Keep your cooties to yourself.  :hihi:
You couldn't pay me to go maskless in a crowd right now.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: GNR4L on August 19, 2021, 01:47:40 PM
I got my two vaccination shots at my local Safeway, a couple of weeks ago they sent me a QR code, that I can add to my Apple Wallet showing proof of Vaccination.  I thought that was a good idea... You don't have to take that card around everywhere you go.  Hopefully the tour continues, I know NIN just cancelled their dates for the rest of the year.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Ali on August 19, 2021, 02:56:07 PM
I got my two vaccination shots at my local Safeway, a couple of weeks ago they sent me a QR code, that I can add to my Apple Wallet showing proof of Vaccination.  I thought that was a good idea... You don't have to take that card around everywhere you go.  Hopefully the tour continues, I know NIN just cancelled their dates for the rest of the year.
I have the same QR code. It is easy to implement.

I hope that I get to see them. But, as you said, NIN has also canceled their dates. The more and more this happens, the more pressure there will be on GN'R to do the same. There's a PR issue at play.

Ali


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: NaturalLight on August 19, 2021, 03:37:25 PM
I got my two vaccination shots at my local Safeway, a couple of weeks ago they sent me a QR code, that I can add to my Apple Wallet showing proof of Vaccination.  I thought that was a good idea... You don't have to take that card around everywhere you go.  Hopefully the tour continues, I know NIN just cancelled their dates for the rest of the year.
I have the same QR code. It is easy to implement.

I hope that I get to see them. But, as you said, NIN has also canceled their dates. The more and more this happens, the more pressure there will be on GN'R to do the same. There's a PR issue at play.

Ali

Well technically they canceled two shows in Ohio and a handful of appearances at some festivals, which - as of now - are still happening.

You are correct. There is a PR issue at play but it works for both sides. Some want the shows canceled and others do not.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Ali on August 19, 2021, 04:07:27 PM
I got my two vaccination shots at my local Safeway, a couple of weeks ago they sent me a QR code, that I can add to my Apple Wallet showing proof of Vaccination.  I thought that was a good idea... You don't have to take that card around everywhere you go.  Hopefully the tour continues, I know NIN just cancelled their dates for the rest of the year.
I have the same QR code. It is easy to implement.

I hope that I get to see them. But, as you said, NIN has also canceled their dates. The more and more this happens, the more pressure there will be on GN'R to do the same. There's a PR issue at play.

Ali

Well technically they canceled two shows in Ohio and a handful of appearances at some festivals, which - as of now - are still happening.

You are correct. There is a PR issue at play but it works for both sides. Some want the shows canceled and others do not.
Eh, I don't see much of a "both sides" here. The argument for them to play is from the amti-maskers, and from the need to generate income. But, I think it would be much more damaging from a PR perspective to be associated with a spreading event.

Ali


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: NaturalLight on August 19, 2021, 06:08:46 PM
I got my two vaccination shots at my local Safeway, a couple of weeks ago they sent me a QR code, that I can add to my Apple Wallet showing proof of Vaccination.  I thought that was a good idea... You don't have to take that card around everywhere you go.  Hopefully the tour continues, I know NIN just cancelled their dates for the rest of the year.
I have the same QR code. It is easy to implement.

I hope that I get to see them. But, as you said, NIN has also canceled their dates. The more and more this happens, the more pressure there will be on GN'R to do the same. There's a PR issue at play.

Ali

Well technically they canceled two shows in Ohio and a handful of appearances at some festivals, which - as of now - are still happening.

You are correct. There is a PR issue at play but it works for both sides. Some want the shows canceled and others do not.
Eh, I don't see much of a "both sides" here. The argument for them to play is from the amti-maskers, and from the need to generate income. But, I think it would be much more damaging from a PR perspective to be associated with a spreading event.

Ali

I know a thing or two about PR. But I’m not going to debate the issue.  :beer:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rebelhipi on August 19, 2021, 09:02:26 PM
I got my two vaccination shots at my local Safeway, a couple of weeks ago they sent me a QR code, that I can add to my Apple Wallet showing proof of Vaccination.  I thought that was a good idea... You don't have to take that card around everywhere you go.  Hopefully the tour continues, I know NIN just cancelled their dates for the rest of the year.
I have the same QR code. It is easy to implement.

I hope that I get to see them. But, as you said, NIN has also canceled their dates. The more and more this happens, the more pressure there will be on GN'R to do the same. There's a PR issue at play.

Ali

Well technically they canceled two shows in Ohio and a handful of appearances at some festivals, which - as of now - are still happening.

You are correct. There is a PR issue at play but it works for both sides. Some want the shows canceled and others do not.
Eh, I don't see much of a "both sides" here. The argument for them to play is from the amti-maskers, and from the need to generate income. But, I think it would be much more damaging from a PR perspective to be associated with a spreading event.

Ali
Im all for shows being continued. At least for the vaccinated. (Which i am)


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tim_m on August 19, 2021, 09:15:42 PM
I got my two vaccination shots at my local Safeway, a couple of weeks ago they sent me a QR code, that I can add to my Apple Wallet showing proof of Vaccination.  I thought that was a good idea... You don't have to take that card around everywhere you go.  Hopefully the tour continues, I know NIN just cancelled their dates for the rest of the year.
I have the same QR code. It is easy to implement.

I hope that I get to see them. But, as you said, NIN has also canceled their dates. The more and more this happens, the more pressure there will be on GN'R to do the same. There's a PR issue at play.

Ali

Well technically they canceled two shows in Ohio and a handful of appearances at some festivals, which - as of now - are still happening.

You are correct. There is a PR issue at play but it works for both sides. Some want the shows canceled and others do not.
Eh, I don't see much of a "both sides" here. The argument for them to play is from the amti-maskers, and from the need to generate income. But, I think it would be much more damaging from a PR perspective to be associated with a spreading event.

Ali
Im all for shows being continued. At least for the vaccinated. (Which i am)

So am i and my sister, who i will be at the Dallas show with and we will be wearing masks as well.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: tormented on August 20, 2021, 06:04:08 AM
If people are honestly that worried, they should stay home.

I don’t understand the take that because other large name bands are canceling their tour Guns should too?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Ali on August 20, 2021, 10:20:59 AM
If people are honestly that worried, they should stay home.

I don’t understand the take that because other large name bands are canceling their tour Guns should too?
Not should, but could.

Ali


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: chineseblues on August 20, 2021, 02:18:54 PM
They doing Canada anytime in the next year?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: dsaddler78 on August 20, 2021, 07:25:24 PM
If people are honestly that worried, they should stay home.

I don’t understand the take that because other large name bands are canceling their tour Guns should too?
Winner winner!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: GingerGringo92 on August 24, 2021, 08:31:54 AM
They doing Canada anytime in the next year?

Doesn't look like it.. I think they had Toronto planned but it got cancelled? Could be wrong there.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: pilferk on August 24, 2021, 11:40:06 AM
They doing Canada anytime in the next year?

Nope.  They had a show planned as part of last years tour, but it was cancelled when the new dates were announced for this tour.  At the time, Canadian borders were still basically closed.

Canadian border crossing is still iffy, based on the pandemic.  They've reopened, but there is some thought they might close them again based on delta. Scheduling a show right now is probably not a great idea.  Too much risk/downside.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: C0ma on August 27, 2021, 10:17:32 AM
I was watching TV and saw a commercial for the NFL Kickoff game in Tampa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-90QLDoWvkg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-90QLDoWvkg). The commercial is set to Welcome to the Jungle. At the Kickoff game there is usually a small stage setup somewhere inside or just outside the stadium and a band (or pop act) plays while some of the festivities happen for the last seasons Super Bowl Champion. I was at a game in Foxboro to kick off one of the Patriots seasons after a Super Bowl and Ozzy did Crazy Train just before they revealed a banner. If you look at the day of the game (Sept. 9th) Guns has a show in Indy on the 8th, then a break until Saturday the 11th when they are in Atlantic City... Could they fly to Tampa, play WTTJ, then shoot out and hit AC?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Nytunz on September 01, 2021, 11:49:26 AM
Do they sell the yellow wttj caps at the shows?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 02, 2021, 02:18:02 PM
Weird touring combination for the next 4 cities.  Jump to the left, back to the middle, two step on the right and back to the middle.  Ought to have everybody wondering where they are now.  :hihi:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: axlroses on September 02, 2021, 06:44:35 PM
Can’t wait to see them in Napa Saturday.  It will be interesting how they alter the set list to accommodate 2 1/2 hour time limit


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 04, 2021, 09:24:46 AM
I'm showing a start time of 7:30 for Napa.  I'm going to be late to help out with the streams.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: pilferk on September 04, 2021, 10:20:39 AM
Weird touring combination for the next 4 cities.  Jump to the left, back to the middle, two step on the right and back to the middle.  Ought to have everybody wondering where they are now.  :hihi:

LETS DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!!!!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: NaturalLight on September 04, 2021, 07:16:56 PM
What time has WVH and Guns been hitting the stage this tour on average?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 04, 2021, 11:50:55 PM
Weird touring combination for the next 4 cities.  Jump to the left, back to the middle, two step on the right and back to the middle.  Ought to have everybody wondering where they are now.  :hihi:

LETS DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!!!!

That's where I was going.   :hihi:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 09, 2021, 01:53:27 PM
I watch facebook live a lot for band coverage.  I have to say GNR gets the best coverage with the longest streams.  I think it's the set list.  Where other streams cut out on songs that the fans aren't that crazy about, GNR has another hit coming and they just keep coming.  Stones are coming up.  I'm thinking they are going to do a well as GNR when it comes to streams because they have the hits too.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: Spirit on September 09, 2021, 06:05:19 PM
They're taking requests....

@gunsnroses
What are you adding to this?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-3QyC2X0AQNEh-?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: sandman on September 09, 2021, 06:44:06 PM
They're taking requests....

@gunsnroses
What are you adding to this?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-3QyC2X0AQNEh-?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

A Saturday night in Atlantic City….what better time to play another new song? let’s do it!!!


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rizzo160 on September 09, 2021, 06:44:52 PM
It’s time to play HARDSCHOOL  :beer: :beer:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: sandman on September 10, 2021, 08:21:05 AM
36 more hours of no positive covid tests!!  :nervous:

Obviously, i hope its years of healthy band and crew, but for now, i'm just focused on the next day and a half. i'm practically having a panic attack every time i log on here or the band's social media pages. i'm heading up to AC soon and with some recent shows in high covid states, i'm just paranoid something could derail the shows this weekend. 


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 10, 2021, 08:53:37 AM
36 more hours of no positive covid tests!!  :nervous:

Obviously, i hope its years of healthy band and crew, but for now, i'm just focused on the next day and a half. i'm practically having a panic attack every time i log on here or the band's social media pages. i'm heading up to AC soon and with some recent shows in high covid states, i'm just paranoid something could derail the shows this weekend. 

"Going off the rails on a crazy train."   :hihi:

Lots of hope for GNR but just taking it day by day here.  It happens when it happens.  Do what you're going to do GNR.  Just riding the train, not driving it.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 25, 2021, 09:16:33 AM
We're going to need some streaming help for the next two shows.  Stones hit the stage at 9:45 GNR stage time.  Hopefully there is a long stream going for GNR.  I'm going to focus more on the Stones.  I'll post some links if you want to bounce between concerts.

Sorry but on Wednesday I'll be lucky to catch the encore for GNR.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rebelhipi on September 25, 2021, 10:01:22 AM
We're going to need some streaming help for the next two shows.  Stones hit the stage at 9:45 GNR stage time.  Hopefully there is a long stream going for GNR.  I'm going to focus more on the Stones.  I'll post some links if you want to bounce between concerts.

Sorry but on Wednesday I'll be lucky to catch the encore for GNR.
Do you know the start times of both shows (and the time zones) Me too im more interested on the Stones show. If its not too late ill be catching those too.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 25, 2021, 03:30:38 PM
We're going to need some streaming help for the next two shows.  Stones hit the stage at 9:45 GNR stage time.  Hopefully there is a long stream going for GNR.  I'm going to focus more on the Stones.  I'll post some links if you want to bounce between concerts.

Sorry but on Wednesday I'll be lucky to catch the encore for GNR.
Do you know the start times of both shows (and the time zones) Me too im more interested on the Stones show. If its not too late ill be catching those too.

GNR is in the Eastern time zone.  Don't know their exact start time.  Any where between 8 and 8:45 is what it usually is. 

The Stones are in the Central time zone starting at 8:45.  I hope the Stones fans are as good as we are about putting up streams.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rebelhipi on September 25, 2021, 05:36:00 PM
We're going to need some streaming help for the next two shows.  Stones hit the stage at 9:45 GNR stage time.  Hopefully there is a long stream going for GNR.  I'm going to focus more on the Stones.  I'll post some links if you want to bounce between concerts.

Sorry but on Wednesday I'll be lucky to catch the encore for GNR.
Do you know the start times of both shows (and the time zones) Me too im more interested on the Stones show. If its not too late ill be catching those too.

GNR is in the Eastern time zone.  Don't know their exact start time.  Any where between 8 and 8:45 is what it usually is.  

The Stones are in the Central time zone starting at 8:45.  I hope the Stones fans are as good as we are about putting up streams.
Thanks! So GN'R starts first. Thats 3:45 am and 4:45 am for me  :confused: Ill be atleast cheking some of it.

There is pretty much always streams of Stones shows. Only bad connection at the venue could be an issue.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 25, 2021, 08:35:34 PM
We're going to need some streaming help for the next two shows.  Stones hit the stage at 9:45 GNR stage time.  Hopefully there is a long stream going for GNR.  I'm going to focus more on the Stones.  I'll post some links if you want to bounce between concerts.

Sorry but on Wednesday I'll be lucky to catch the encore for GNR.
Do you know the start times of both shows (and the time zones) Me too im more interested on the Stones show. If its not too late ill be catching those too.

GNR is in the Eastern time zone.  Don't know their exact start time.  Any where between 8 and 8:45 is what it usually is.  

The Stones are in the Central time zone starting at 8:45.  I hope the Stones fans are as good as we are about putting up streams.
Thanks! So GN'R starts first. Thats 3:45 am and 4:45 am for me  :confused: Ill be atleast cheking some of it.

There is pretty much always streams of Stones shows. Only bad connection at the venue could be an issue.

I haven't checked but I assume those facebook links still work the next day.   Then again, it is better live.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rebelhipi on September 25, 2021, 08:50:16 PM
We're going to need some streaming help for the next two shows.  Stones hit the stage at 9:45 GNR stage time.  Hopefully there is a long stream going for GNR.  I'm going to focus more on the Stones.  I'll post some links if you want to bounce between concerts.

Sorry but on Wednesday I'll be lucky to catch the encore for GNR.
Do you know the start times of both shows (and the time zones) Me too im more interested on the Stones show. If its not too late ill be catching those too.

GNR is in the Eastern time zone.  Don't know their exact start time.  Any where between 8 and 8:45 is what it usually is.  

The Stones are in the Central time zone starting at 8:45.  I hope the Stones fans are as good as we are about putting up streams.
Thanks! So GN'R starts first. Thats 3:45 am and 4:45 am for me  :confused: Ill be atleast cheking some of it.

There is pretty much always streams of Stones shows. Only bad connection at the venue could be an issue.

I haven't checked but I assume those facebook links still work the next day.   Then again, it is better live.
Yeah at that point ill to youtube and ultimately check bootlegs. Very curious how will the Stones with Steve Jordan


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 26, 2021, 12:49:15 AM
We're going to need some streaming help for the next two shows.  Stones hit the stage at 9:45 GNR stage time.  Hopefully there is a long stream going for GNR.  I'm going to focus more on the Stones.  I'll post some links if you want to bounce between concerts.

Sorry but on Wednesday I'll be lucky to catch the encore for GNR.
Do you know the start times of both shows (and the time zones) Me too im more interested on the Stones show. If its not too late ill be catching those too.

GNR is in the Eastern time zone.  Don't know their exact start time.  Any where between 8 and 8:45 is what it usually is.  

The Stones are in the Central time zone starting at 8:45.  I hope the Stones fans are as good as we are about putting up streams.
Thanks! So GN'R starts first. Thats 3:45 am and 4:45 am for me  :confused: Ill be atleast cheking some of it.

There is pretty much always streams of Stones shows. Only bad connection at the venue could be an issue.

I haven't checked but I assume those facebook links still work the next day.   Then again, it is better live.
Yeah at that point ill to youtube and ultimately check bootlegs. Very curious how will the Stones with Steve Jordan

They have to be looking at each other wondering who's next.

Duff is complaining his rib was out of place.  I'm assuming with the cussing he was dealing with that without any pain pills.  Just stand up straight and tall and try not to breath.  Ouch, that had to hurt.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rebelhipi on September 26, 2021, 04:40:31 AM
We're going to need some streaming help for the next two shows.  Stones hit the stage at 9:45 GNR stage time.  Hopefully there is a long stream going for GNR.  I'm going to focus more on the Stones.  I'll post some links if you want to bounce between concerts.

Sorry but on Wednesday I'll be lucky to catch the encore for GNR.
Do you know the start times of both shows (and the time zones) Me too im more interested on the Stones show. If its not too late ill be catching those too.

GNR is in the Eastern time zone.  Don't know their exact start time.  Any where between 8 and 8:45 is what it usually is.  

The Stones are in the Central time zone starting at 8:45.  I hope the Stones fans are as good as we are about putting up streams.
Thanks! So GN'R starts first. Thats 3:45 am and 4:45 am for me  :confused: Ill be atleast cheking some of it.

There is pretty much always streams of Stones shows. Only bad connection at the venue could be an issue.

I haven't checked but I assume those facebook links still work the next day.   Then again, it is better live.
Yeah at that point ill to youtube and ultimately check bootlegs. Very curious how will the Stones with Steve Jordan

They have to be looking at each other wondering who's next.

Duff is complaining his rib was out of place.  I'm assuming with the cussing he was dealing with that without any pain pills.  Just stand up straight and tall and try not to breath.  Ouch, that had to hurt.
When did that happen? At a GNR show?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 26, 2021, 09:56:26 AM
We're going to need some streaming help for the next two shows.  Stones hit the stage at 9:45 GNR stage time.  Hopefully there is a long stream going for GNR.  I'm going to focus more on the Stones.  I'll post some links if you want to bounce between concerts.

Sorry but on Wednesday I'll be lucky to catch the encore for GNR.
Do you know the start times of both shows (and the time zones) Me too im more interested on the Stones show. If its not too late ill be catching those too.

GNR is in the Eastern time zone.  Don't know their exact start time.  Any where between 8 and 8:45 is what it usually is.  

The Stones are in the Central time zone starting at 8:45.  I hope the Stones fans are as good as we are about putting up streams.
Thanks! So GN'R starts first. Thats 3:45 am and 4:45 am for me  :confused: Ill be atleast cheking some of it.

There is pretty much always streams of Stones shows. Only bad connection at the venue could be an issue.

I haven't checked but I assume those facebook links still work the next day.   Then again, it is better live.
Yeah at that point ill to youtube and ultimately check bootlegs. Very curious how will the Stones with Steve Jordan

They have to be looking at each other wondering who's next.

Duff is complaining his rib was out of place.  I'm assuming with the cussing he was dealing with that without any pain pills.  Just stand up straight and tall and try not to breath.  Ouch, that had to hurt.
When did that happen? At a GNR show?

Didn't explain.  It was a tweet he made.  Guessing but probably more of a work out thing.  A good chiropractor can pop it right back into place.  I did mine swing a pick ax for a couple of hours and/or it was a long stretch of data entry.  It was a rough week.   :hihi:

I got a dinner invite.  I'll be back for the Stones but may be late to GNR.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rebelhipi on September 26, 2021, 10:34:39 AM
We're going to need some streaming help for the next two shows.  Stones hit the stage at 9:45 GNR stage time.  Hopefully there is a long stream going for GNR.  I'm going to focus more on the Stones.  I'll post some links if you want to bounce between concerts.

Sorry but on Wednesday I'll be lucky to catch the encore for GNR.
Do you know the start times of both shows (and the time zones) Me too im more interested on the Stones show. If its not too late ill be catching those too.

GNR is in the Eastern time zone.  Don't know their exact start time.  Any where between 8 and 8:45 is what it usually is.  

The Stones are in the Central time zone starting at 8:45.  I hope the Stones fans are as good as we are about putting up streams.
Thanks! So GN'R starts first. Thats 3:45 am and 4:45 am for me  :confused: Ill be atleast cheking some of it.

There is pretty much always streams of Stones shows. Only bad connection at the venue could be an issue.

I haven't checked but I assume those facebook links still work the next day.   Then again, it is better live.
Yeah at that point ill to youtube and ultimately check bootlegs. Very curious how will the Stones with Steve Jordan

They have to be looking at each other wondering who's next.

Duff is complaining his rib was out of place.  I'm assuming with the cussing he was dealing with that without any pain pills.  Just stand up straight and tall and try not to breath.  Ouch, that had to hurt.
When did that happen? At a GNR show?

Didn't explain.  It was a tweet he made.  Guessing but probably more of a work out thing.  A good chiropractor can pop it right back into place.  I did mine swing a pick ax for a couple of hours and/or it was a long stretch of data entry.  It was a rough week.   :hihi:

I got a dinner invite.  I'll be back for the Stones but may be late to GNR.
Ill try to post updates on the GN'R show here until then.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 27, 2021, 12:25:51 PM
Your shows were postponed till next year Rebelhipi?  Only 3 shows left and no GNR until next summer?  This totally sucks.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rebelhipi on September 27, 2021, 04:08:04 PM
Your shows were postponed till next year Rebelhipi?  Only 3 shows left and no GNR until next summer?  This totally sucks.
Yeah. Originally i only had tickets for Prague 2020 Which got cancelled and not even rescheduled for 2021. Last spring when they announced the 2021 tour is postponed until 2022 they announced again Prague as a ''new'' show for 2022. And at the same time i bought pit tickets for the rescheduled Lisbon show.

So its possible that im gonna attend the first GN'R show of 2022!
I learned from 2018 Berlin that the first show of a tour isint maybe the best pick, but i like Lisbon as a city and im Already going to Prague which is two weeks later so should be good.

Are you attending any shows next year or did you see any this year?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 27, 2021, 07:12:22 PM
Your shows were postponed till next year Rebelhipi?  Only 3 shows left and no GNR until next summer?  This totally sucks.
Yeah. Originally i only had tickets for Prague 2020 Which got cancelled and not even rescheduled for 2021. Last spring when they announced the 2021 tour is postponed until 2022 they announced again Prague as a ''new'' show for 2022. And at the same time i bought pit tickets for the rescheduled Lisbon show.

So its possible that im gonna attend the first GN'R show of 2022!
I learned from 2018 Berlin that the first show of a tour isint maybe the best pick, but i like Lisbon as a city and im Already going to Prague which is two weeks later so should be good.

Are you attending any shows next year or did you see any this year?

I thought you were down under not in Europe.

Unless they come back to town I won't be seeing them live.  I do attend almost every show though.  :hihi:


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rebelhipi on September 27, 2021, 08:23:05 PM
Your shows were postponed till next year Rebelhipi?  Only 3 shows left and no GNR until next summer?  This totally sucks.
Yeah. Originally i only had tickets for Prague 2020 Which got cancelled and not even rescheduled for 2021. Last spring when they announced the 2021 tour is postponed until 2022 they announced again Prague as a ''new'' show for 2022. And at the same time i bought pit tickets for the rescheduled Lisbon show.

So its possible that im gonna attend the first GN'R show of 2022!
I learned from 2018 Berlin that the first show of a tour isint maybe the best pick, but i like Lisbon as a city and im Already going to Prague which is two weeks later so should be good.

Are you attending any shows next year or did you see any this year?

I thought you were down under not in Europe.

Unless they come back to town I won't be seeing them live.  I do attend almost every show though.  :hihi:
Im from Finland which is pretty much as far from Australia as you can get  ;D
What part of the world are you from if you dont mind me asking?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 27, 2021, 11:25:44 PM
Your shows were postponed till next year Rebelhipi?  Only 3 shows left and no GNR until next summer?  This totally sucks.
Yeah. Originally i only had tickets for Prague 2020 Which got cancelled and not even rescheduled for 2021. Last spring when they announced the 2021 tour is postponed until 2022 they announced again Prague as a ''new'' show for 2022. And at the same time i bought pit tickets for the rescheduled Lisbon show.

So its possible that im gonna attend the first GN'R show of 2022!
I learned from 2018 Berlin that the first show of a tour isint maybe the best pick, but i like Lisbon as a city and im Already going to Prague which is two weeks later so should be good.

Are you attending any shows next year or did you see any this year?

I thought you were down under not in Europe.

Unless they come back to town I won't be seeing them live.  I do attend almost every show though.  :hihi:
Im from Finland which is pretty much as far from Australia as you can get  ;D
What part of the world are you from if you dont mind me asking?

St Louis Missouri, central US.  Okay place to live.


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: rebelhipi on September 28, 2021, 06:33:02 AM
Your shows were postponed till next year Rebelhipi?  Only 3 shows left and no GNR until next summer?  This totally sucks.
Yeah. Originally i only had tickets for Prague 2020 Which got cancelled and not even rescheduled for 2021. Last spring when they announced the 2021 tour is postponed until 2022 they announced again Prague as a ''new'' show for 2022. And at the same time i bought pit tickets for the rescheduled Lisbon show.

So its possible that im gonna attend the first GN'R show of 2022!
I learned from 2018 Berlin that the first show of a tour isint maybe the best pick, but i like Lisbon as a city and im Already going to Prague which is two weeks later so should be good.

Are you attending any shows next year or did you see any this year?

I thought you were down under not in Europe.

Unless they come back to town I won't be seeing them live.  I do attend almost every show though.  :hihi:
Im from Finland which is pretty much as far from Australia as you can get  ;D
What part of the world are you from if you dont mind me asking?

St Louis Missouri, central US.  Okay place to live.
Ive seen some t shirt that says otherwise ;D

No, seriously. Isint 4tus from there?


Title: Re: 2021 US Summer Tour (was: 2021 North America Stadium Tour)
Post by: cineater on September 28, 2021, 11:47:54 AM
Your shows were postponed till next year Rebelhipi?  Only 3 shows left and no GNR until next summer?  This totally sucks.
Yeah. Originally i only had tickets for Prague 2020 Which got cancelled and not even rescheduled for 2021. Last spring when they announced the 2021 tour is postponed until 2022 they announced again Prague as a ''new'' show for 2022. And at the same time i bought pit tickets for the rescheduled Lisbon show.

So its possible that im gonna attend the first GN'R show of 2022!
I learned from 2018 Berlin that the first show of a tour isint maybe the best pick, but i like Lisbon as a city and im Already going to Prague which is two weeks later so should be good.

Are you attending any shows next year or did you see any this year?

I thought you were down under not in Europe.

Unless they come back to town I won't be seeing them live.  I do attend almost every show though.  :hihi:
Im from Finland which is pretty much as far from Australia as you can get  ;D
What part of the world are you from if you dont mind me asking?

St Louis Missouri, central US.  Okay place to live.
Ive seen some t shirt that says otherwise ;D

No, seriously. Isint 4tus from there?

Oh we all say that from time to time.   :hihi:  Yep home to Richard.  Been all around the world and keeps coming back.  You know, it's home.  "I like to be here when I can."