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Title: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: GypsySoul on July 31, 2021, 01:49:31 PM
Gypsy Note: ANYONE CAN START & POST THESE UPDATE THREADS!!!   :beer:


Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium

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Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: jarmo on July 31, 2021, 03:45:55 PM
Band has sound checked.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: westcoast_junkie on July 31, 2021, 04:09:27 PM
Thank you, Gypsy! Anyone can't do this - might jinx it :)

Looking forward to waking up tomorrow and check this. Don't expect any new songs tonight, maybe later on. Marking UIY 30 years some way would be nice. A rare performed "deep cut"? Or a special guest?


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: NaturalLight on July 31, 2021, 04:50:46 PM
Can anyone say about what time roughly did they start selling merchandise outside the stadium?


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 05:11:18 PM
https://www.facebook.com/PennLive/videos/901374880734013


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: jarmo on July 31, 2021, 05:17:49 PM
Can anyone say about what time roughly did they start selling merchandise outside the stadium?


Must've been a few hours before doors.

Like around 2pm today I think....



/jarmo


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: NaturalLight on July 31, 2021, 05:34:43 PM
Can anyone say about what time roughly did they start selling merchandise outside the stadium?


Must've been a few hours before doors.

Like around 2pm today I think....



/jarmo


Thank you. I like to get a lithograph for the shows I attend and Guns usually has such a limited amount. Iíll figure on 2 pm when I hit Indianapolis!  :peace:


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: gunsbetterthanever on July 31, 2021, 06:22:49 PM
Iím sure it was posted so please forgive me for asking. What is ETA for them to go on stage?


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Apple7 on July 31, 2021, 06:27:51 PM
I remember in 2006, there were hundreds of connected every night of the GnR show, not only here, in any GnR forum, in any language ... Will we have something new today?


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: gunsbetterthanever on July 31, 2021, 06:39:23 PM
There is still that feeling before the first show of a tour for me.

Will there be a new song? Will they bring back an old song?


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: ice road trucker on July 31, 2021, 06:39:42 PM
what time is gnr


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Apple7 on July 31, 2021, 06:47:22 PM
There is still that feeling before the first show of a tour for me.

Will there be a new song? Will they bring back an old song?

I think the same way ..... I remember at that time reloading the page every 10 seconds waiting for the setlist and the "new" song ... Today I don't think I will, but I do plan to be on the lookout if the new song arrives XD



Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: sjgotnitro on July 31, 2021, 07:13:42 PM
30 years and 20 days since the last time here.  :peace:

Canít wait for the show


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on July 31, 2021, 07:22:41 PM
Hoping the updates tell about a great show, a few surprises and mixing up the set list a bit
Thanks in advance for the updates

That pic of the 3 of them staring out is pretty cool


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: GypsySoul on July 31, 2021, 08:08:25 PM
https://www.instagram.com/riverafaf/live/



Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rebelhipi on July 31, 2021, 08:14:44 PM
Lets go!

First show of the new tour!


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 08:15:39 PM
Lets go!

First show of the new tour!
Hopefully it goes off without any issues.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Apple7 on July 31, 2021, 08:16:08 PM
https://www.instagram.com/riverafaf/live/




good thanks!


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: GypsySoul on July 31, 2021, 08:30:51 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100003398349005/videos/524965198842053

https://www.facebook.com/perry.sage

https://www.instagram.com/riverafaf/live/





https://www.instagram.com/duffmckagan/live/



Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Fingers on July 31, 2021, 08:43:20 PM
Anyone know what time Mammoth went on? Going to show next week, I'm driving right from work. Just curious


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: ice road trucker on July 31, 2021, 08:44:19 PM
set so far anyone


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rizzo160 on July 31, 2021, 08:47:48 PM
Any setlist yet? :beer:


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rebelhipi on July 31, 2021, 08:47:55 PM
At least Brownstone and Jungle sound a bit slower than usual.
Not necessarily a bad thing.

Setlist so far:

Easy
Brownstone
Chinese
Rumble (Link Wray cover)
Jungle
Double Talkin' Jive
Slither
Better
Estranged
Live And Let Die
Crazy
Rocket Queen
You Could Be Mine
I Wanna Be Your Dog (Duff on vocals)
Civil War
Dead Horse


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: ice road trucker on July 31, 2021, 08:48:57 PM
any good links


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: GypsySoul on July 31, 2021, 08:51:23 PM
any good links

https://www.facebook.com/100003398349005/videos/524965198842053



Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 08:53:14 PM
At least Brownstone and Jungle sound a bit slower than usual.
Not necessarily a bad thing.

Setlist so far:

Easy
Brownstone
Chinese
Rumble (Link Wray cover)
Jungle
Double Talkin' Jive
A new cover.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: GypsySoul on July 31, 2021, 08:54:58 PM
At least Brownstone and Jungle sound a bit slower than usual.
Not necessarily a bad thing.

Setlist so far:

Easy
Brownstone
Chinese
Rumble (Link Wray cover)
Jungle
Double Talkin' Jive
A new cover.

Ali

I believe it was just a jam not an actual cover
Axl's doing a cover of Slither now.  :P


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 08:56:14 PM
At least Brownstone and Jungle sound a bit slower than usual.
Not necessarily a bad thing.

Setlist so far:

Easy
Brownstone
Chinese
Rumble (Link Wray cover)
Jungle
Double Talkin' Jive
A new cover.

Ali

I believe it was just a jam not an actual cover


Something different at least.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rebelhipi on July 31, 2021, 09:01:11 PM
At least Brownstone and Jungle sound a bit slower than usual.
Not necessarily a bad thing.

Setlist so far:

Easy
Brownstone
Chinese
Rumble (Link Wray cover)
Jungle
Double Talkin' Jive
A new cover.

Ali

I believe it was just a jam not an actual cover


Something different at least.

Ali
Well the original song is a 2minute intrumental so id count it as a cover


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: GypsySoul on July 31, 2021, 09:02:48 PM
https://www.instagram.com/riverafaf/live/



Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 09:03:20 PM
Slither?

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 09:06:28 PM
Maybe it's just my internet or the audio quality of my device, but either the feeds freeze or I can't hear anything over the screaming of the crowd.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: GypsySoul on July 31, 2021, 09:08:59 PM
Slither?

Ali

Isn't that the name of the Velvet Revolver song where they yell HEY!?



Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: ice road trucker on July 31, 2021, 09:09:10 PM
no links that work


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rebelhipi on July 31, 2021, 09:10:23 PM
Maybe it's just my internet or the audio quality of my device, but either the feeds freeze or I can't hear anything over the screaming of the crowd.

Ali

The feed is really bad. I get glimpses of 5 seconds and then 2 minutes of nothing. Slither,Better,Estranged has been played for sure


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 09:12:44 PM
Maybe it's just my internet or the audio quality of my device, but either the feeds freeze or I can't hear anything over the screaming of the crowd.

Ali

The feed is really bad. I get glimpses of 5 seconds and then 2 minutes of nothing. Slither,Better,Estranged has been played for sure
Same. It is not worth the frustration.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: ice road trucker on July 31, 2021, 09:14:00 PM
agreed


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 09:16:18 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100003398349005/videos/353760209569737


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: ice road trucker on July 31, 2021, 09:21:13 PM
you're crazy


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: ice road trucker on July 31, 2021, 09:23:05 PM
rq


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: jimmythegent on July 31, 2021, 09:25:11 PM
they definitely seem to be slowing down the classics


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 09:27:22 PM
Kind of feels surreal after all this time.  God I love this.  :D

 https://www.facebook.com/100003398349005/videos/353760209569737


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 09:28:22 PM
You're Crazy? For the first time in...?

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rebelhipi on July 31, 2021, 09:31:54 PM
You're Crazy? For the first time in...?

Ali

They started playing it again at the two 2020 shows


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Apple7 on July 31, 2021, 09:33:52 PM
You're Crazy? For the first time in...?

Ali

They started playing it again at the two 2020 shows

Also played in 2012.....


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: ice road trucker on July 31, 2021, 09:34:31 PM
ycbm


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: PermissionToLand on July 31, 2021, 09:43:05 PM
Duff singing I Wanna Be Your Dog. Neat.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: ice road trucker on July 31, 2021, 09:46:10 PM
civil war


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rebelhipi on July 31, 2021, 09:47:38 PM
I hope So Fine last year wasen't just a one off


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 09:52:09 PM
What is that cat on Axl's shirt saying?


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 09:53:44 PM
I hope So Fine last year wasen't just a one off
Yeah, I would love to hear it in San Jose with You're Crazy.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: DeadHorse on July 31, 2021, 09:55:03 PM
DeadHorse  :hihi:


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rebelhipi on July 31, 2021, 09:56:23 PM
Setlist so far:

Easy
Brownstone
Chinese
Rumble (Link Wray cover)
Jungle
Double Talkin' Jive
Slither
Better
Estranged
Live And Let Die
Crazy
Rocket Queen
You Could Be Mine
I Wanna Be Your Dog (The Stooges cover with Duff on vocals)
Civil War
Dead Horse
Slash Guitar Solo / Mannish Boy Jam (Muddy Waters)
Sweet Child
November Rain
Only Women Bleed (Intro)
KOHD
Nightrain
Paradise City


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: DeadHorse on July 31, 2021, 09:58:08 PM
Whoops Axl forgot where they were in the song.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 10:03:17 PM
Ain't That A Man?


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rebelhipi on July 31, 2021, 10:07:37 PM
Ain't That A Man?
Actually im not sure. My first thought was Bad To The Bone. Now im thinking Mannish Boy


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 10:08:15 PM
Ain't That A Man?

Manish Boy, that's it.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 10:10:23 PM
Ain't That A Man?
Actually im not sure. My first thought was Bad To The Bone. Now im thinking Mannish Boy

Muddy Waters from The Band's Last Waltz concert?  So much music, so many years ago.  :D


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rebelhipi on July 31, 2021, 10:14:24 PM
Ain't That A Man?
Actually im not sure. My first thought was Bad To The Bone. Now im thinking Mannish Boy

Muddy Waters from The Band's Last Waltz concert?  So much music, so many years ago.  :D
Havent heard that one.
And Mannish Boy has basically the same riff as Bo Diddleys ''Im A man''
So many songs that sounds similar.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 10:21:13 PM
Ain't That A Man?
Actually im not sure. My first thought was Bad To The Bone. Now im thinking Mannish Boy

Muddy Waters from The Band's Last Waltz concert?  So much music, so many years ago.  :D
Havent heard that one.
And Mannish Boy has basically the same riff as Bo Diddleys ''Im A man''
So many songs that sounds similar.

Slash should have been a blues man.
The Last Waltz featured just about everybody.  One of the best concerts there ever was.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 10:24:28 PM
Axl looks like he took a fall on his right elbow.  See he's got some new shirts.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 10:25:26 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100003398349005/videos/353760209569737

Kathy's still hanging in there.  Over 650 watching.  Thank you Kathy!  :D


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 10:39:20 PM
Axl looks like he took a fall on his right elbow.  See he's got some new shirts.
Did they have to stop the show?

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 10:44:22 PM
Axl looks like he took a fall on his right elbow.  See he's got some new shirts.
Did they have to stop the show?

Ali

No his elbow just looks raw when he was playing November Rain.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 10:45:40 PM
Right to Paradise City?  That's different.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: GypsySoul on July 31, 2021, 10:50:43 PM
Right to Paradise City?  That's different.

I think there's an 11pm curfew.  :-\



Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rebelhipi on July 31, 2021, 10:57:44 PM
Setlist:

Easy
Brownstone
Chinese
Rumble (Link Wray cover)
Jungle
Double Talkin' Jive
Slither
Better
Estranged
Live And Let Die
Crazy
Rocket Queen
You Could Be Mine
I Wanna Be Your Dog (The Stooges cover with Duff on vocals)
Civil War
Dead Horse
Slash Guitar Solo / Mannish Boy Jam (Muddy Waters)
Sweet Child
November Rain
Only Women Bleed (Intro)
KOHD
Nightrain
Paradise City


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 10:59:25 PM
So, Mammoth ended about 7:30 and GN'R went on at 8:30?

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: draguns on July 31, 2021, 11:05:40 PM
Not sure who owns the GNR News group on Facebook, but they have a list of songs, which showed that Hard School was supposed to be played after You're Crazy.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 11:06:56 PM
Not sure who owns the GNR News group on Facebook, but they have a list of songs, which showed that Hard School was supposed to be played after You're Crazy.

Did they get the rest of it right?


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rebelhipi on July 31, 2021, 11:11:08 PM
Not sure who owns the GNR News group on Facebook, but they have a list of songs, which showed that Hard School was supposed to be played after You're Crazy.

Did they get the rest of it right?
Pretty Tied Up was there too


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: sworrm on July 31, 2021, 11:13:18 PM
Yawnfest ! The most dangerous band in the world? The most predictable boring band . Respect to Izzy for jumping ship when it was on top . Peace n love to all of you , I will always love appetite and UYI , but itís over for me . Hope you all enjoy the tour , I wish no shit on anyone Iím just not feeling it anymore with this band 🤷🏻‍♂️. Sorry ❤️


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 11:15:44 PM
Yawnfest ! The most dangerous band in the world? The most predictable boring band . Respect to Izzy for jumping ship when it was on top . Peace n love to all of you , I will always love appetite and UYI , but itís over for me . Hope you all enjoy the tour , I wish no shit on anyone Iím just not feeling it anymore with this band 🤷🏻‍♂️. Sorry ❤️
Were you at the show?

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: draguns on July 31, 2021, 11:15:56 PM
Not sure who owns the GNR News group on Facebook, but they have a list of songs, which showed that Hard School was supposed to be played after You're Crazy.

Did they get the rest of it right?

They did. Also as someone else just said on this thread, PTU was on the list as well.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: hunter80 on July 31, 2021, 11:20:24 PM
To be honest I like the setlist and at this point in my life (career, child, family, etc) I am good with a solid concise show. Iíve been to the near 3 hour shows multiple times now. That being said with Covid concerns and the steep price of a ticket for a show that hasnít changed in years Iíll be sitting this tour out.

Enjoy that GNR is touring and still delivering the goods folks. Itís no different than seeing the Stones and the celebration that happens when they play a deep cut. They deliver solid shows and around the hour and a half mark too.



Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 11:27:15 PM
To be honest I like the setlist and at this point in my life (career, child, family, etc) I am good with a solid concise show. Iíve been to the near 3 hour shows multiple times now. That being said with Covid concerns and the steep price of a ticket for a show that hasnít changed in years Iíll be sitting this tour out.

Enjoy that GNR is touring and still delivering the goods folks. Itís no different than seeing the Stones and the celebration that happens when they play a deep cut. They deliver solid shows and around the hour and a half mark too.


I haven't heard the band play Slither, You're Crazy or Dead Horse, and I haven't seen them since 2017. So, the show has slightly changed. They can't forego the hits or risk disappointing most of the fans in attendance.

I think that they have struck a nice balance between the hits and deeper cuts over the last five years.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: hunter80 on July 31, 2021, 11:32:49 PM
To be honest I like the setlist and at this point in my life (career, child, family, etc) I am good with a solid concise show. Iíve been to the near 3 hour shows multiple times now. That being said with Covid concerns and the steep price of a ticket for a show that hasnít changed in years Iíll be sitting this tour out.

Enjoy that GNR is touring and still delivering the goods folks. Itís no different than seeing the Stones and the celebration that happens when they play a deep cut. They deliver solid shows and around the hour and a half mark too.


I haven't heard the band play Slither, You're Crazy or Dead Horse, and I haven't seen them since 2017. So, the show has slightly changed. They can't forego the hits or risk disappointing most of the fans in attendance.

I think that they have struck a nice balance between the hits and deeper cuts over the last five years.

Ali

Slight is the best word to describe it. When I lived in Vegas and saw shows over the years they would add, or swap out, a scene/bit to change it up a little for the regulars. Same thing here. Nothing wrong with it at all. Itís a show and it follows a flow that works.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on July 31, 2021, 11:36:37 PM
To be honest I like the setlist and at this point in my life (career, child, family, etc) I am good with a solid concise show. Iíve been to the near 3 hour shows multiple times now. That being said with Covid concerns and the steep price of a ticket for a show that hasnít changed in years Iíll be sitting this tour out.

Enjoy that GNR is touring and still delivering the goods folks. Itís no different than seeing the Stones and the celebration that happens when they play a deep cut. They deliver solid shows and around the hour and a half mark too.



I haven't heard the band play Slither, You're Crazy or Dead Horse, and I haven't seen them since 2017. So, the show has slightly changed. They can't forego the hits or risk disappointing most of the fans in attendance.

I think that they have struck a nice balance between the hits and deeper cuts over the last five years.

Ali

Slight is the best word to describe it. When I lived in Vegas and saw shows over the years they would add, or swap out, a scene/bit to change it up a little for the regulars. Same thing here. Nothing wrong with it at all. Itís a show and it follows a flow that works.
I have no illusions about the setlist, and understand your concern, particularly with Covid. I just think that these slight variations are the only realistic expectations. Drastic setlist changes would mean Drastic changes to the entire production, lighting, video and Pyro. That just isn't realistic, IMO.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: D on July 31, 2021, 11:40:39 PM
Other than covers we are hearing the songs that you would expect to here.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: jacdaniel on August 01, 2021, 12:36:08 AM
The casuals really only care about Jungle, PC, SCOM, NR and possibly Patience.
I donít know of any casual that is demanding Easy, Brownstone, CD, DTJ, Any Chinese songs or even that many Illusions songs.

So there is plenty of scope for change if the demand was there. It clearly isnít. The structure of the set is essentially the same for half a decade now.

It was strange to market shows as ďall new showĒ when very little is actually new. Itís also hard to see a band releasing new music if they canít even change up the order of a show.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: gnr1967 on August 01, 2021, 12:57:42 AM
The show started off okay.  Axl's voice was decent until Better imho.  Better was a train wreck as far as vocals.  Although I was a little sad that Hardschool wasn't played, I'm still glad I got to see them after such a long pandemic.  But it was a very predictable show.  I also scored one of the Hershey limited edition lithograph posters. 


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on August 01, 2021, 01:00:37 AM
His voice sounded completely like it has the past several tours from what I heard.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: gnr1967 on August 01, 2021, 01:15:11 AM
I saw them in Hershey a few years ago and again tonight.  I definitely see a decline in Axl's vocals over the years when comparing the two shows.  Axl sounded much more consistent 3-4 years ago.  In comparison, the first few songs tonight were pretty strong until they got to Better.  During Better, Axl sounded like Mickey Mouse after sucking on helium.  IMHO they cannot perform Better live without it sounding horrid due to the vocals.  I honestly wish they would pick a different Chinese Democracy song to replace it - one that they can pull off live.  The rest of the show was hit or miss.  I did like seeing Slither, Dead Horse, and a few others.  Fairly predictable show, a little bummed about the vocals on certain songs, but I'm still glad I saw them. They had some good moments.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on August 01, 2021, 01:38:41 AM
I saw them in Hershey a few years ago and again tonight.  I definitely see a decline in Axl's vocals over the years when comparing the two shows.  Axl sounded much more consistent 3-4 years ago.  In comparison, the first few songs tonight were pretty strong until they got to Better.  During Better, Axl sounded like Mickey Mouse after sucking on helium.  IMHO they cannot perform Better live without it sounding horrid due to the vocals.  I honestly wish they would pick a different Chinese Democracy song to replace it - one that they can pull off live.  The rest of the show was hit or miss.  I did like seeing Slither, Dead Horse, and a few others.  Fairly predictable show, a little bummed about the vocals on certain songs, but I'm still glad I saw them. They had some good moments.
I disagree completely. Other than not holding notes as long tonight, there was no meaningful difference that I could hear.

He looks noticeably lighter than he did a few years ago, and that will only help his performance going forward.

Given his body language on some of the songs, and how he came in late on PC, I would say he was having monitor issues.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: icpillusions on August 01, 2021, 02:28:45 AM
Axl fought sound issues all night. His mic kept cutting out and  we couldn't hear him at all. He basically decided to save his voice after Better. He belted out the rockin part of Better but his mic cut out and we couldn't hear him at all.  So, from that point on he didn't do any of the "screaming" vocals.

On a separate note. I heard Axl arrived a little late so they had to cut a song or two to meet curfew.

No Pyro or confetti during Paradise. No band bow at the end. They just got out of there as fast as they can.

Tour Mech can be ordered online to avoid the lines @
https://gnrtourtruck.com

Hopefully, they work the issues out. It was the worst GnR concert I've been to.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: bolton on August 01, 2021, 02:31:13 AM
The show started off okay.  Axl's voice was decent until Better imho.  Better was a train wreck as far as vocals.  Although I was a little sad that Hardschool wasn't played, I'm still glad I got to see them after such a long pandemic.  But it was a very predictable show.  I also scored one of the Hershey limited edition lithograph posters.  
I wans't be there sinve Covid started...What is "Hardschool"?
Also it is great that GNR started...Do not complaining...It is great to see them live and ready for rock...
Was stadium full,or there were some Covid restriction?


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: (t) on August 01, 2021, 03:16:12 AM
No bow is a little surprising.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: ITARocker on August 01, 2021, 03:25:46 AM
His voice sounds like itís gone forever. Even during jungle he doesnít even tryÖIím good with it, i knew it, but itís sad that he doesnít care anymore, itís pretty clear. Heís not even singin, just gasping for air after 2 songs. Donít try to explain or find excusesÖenough for me. After all this rest you still have no voice ?.  Hope theyíll put out something new in the future, thatís it.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: izzyjim on August 01, 2021, 03:41:46 AM
And Mannish Boy has basically the same riff as Bo Diddleys ''Im A man''
So many songs that sounds similar.

Which is based upon another Muddy Waters song, "Hoochie Coochie Man" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoochie_Coochie_Man#Influence_and_recognition)  ;)


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Michael on August 01, 2021, 03:55:28 AM
Seems there was one dude at the show that wanted to get on stage - he was kicked off the train :-D

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSBGQs6DE-U/


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: sworrm on August 01, 2021, 05:24:07 AM
His voice sounds like itís gone forever. Even during jungle he doesnít even tryÖIím good with it, i knew it, but itís sad that he doesnít care anymore, itís pretty clear. Heís not even singin, just gasping for air after 2 songs. Donít try to explain or find excusesÖenough for me. After all this rest you still have no voice ?.  Hope theyíll put out something new in the future, thatís it.
👍🏽Spot on


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: hunter80 on August 01, 2021, 06:40:52 AM
The casuals really only care about Jungle, PC, SCOM, NR and possibly Patience.
I donít know of any casual that is demanding Easy, Brownstone, CD, DTJ, Any Chinese songs or even that many Illusions songs.

So there is plenty of scope for change if the demand was there. It clearly isnít. The structure of the set is essentially the same for half a decade now.

It was strange to market shows as ďall new showĒ when very little is actually new. Itís also hard to see a band releasing new music if they canít even change up the order of a show.

Itís a well rehearsed and scripted show.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rebelhipi on August 01, 2021, 06:50:13 AM
And Mannish Boy has basically the same riff as Bo Diddleys ''Im A man''
So many songs that sounds similar.

Which is based upon another Muddy Waters song, "Hoochie Coochie Man" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoochie_Coochie_Man#Influence_and_recognition)  ;)
Dammit!  ;D



Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: gnr1967 on August 01, 2021, 06:54:13 AM
I saw them in Hershey a few years ago and again tonight.  I definitely see a decline in Axl's vocals over the years when comparing the two shows.  Axl sounded much more consistent 3-4 years ago.  In comparison, the first few songs tonight were pretty strong until they got to Better.  During Better, Axl sounded like Mickey Mouse after sucking on helium.  IMHO they cannot perform Better live without it sounding horrid due to the vocals.  I honestly wish they would pick a different Chinese Democracy song to replace it - one that they can pull off live.  The rest of the show was hit or miss.  I did like seeing Slither, Dead Horse, and a few others.  Fairly predictable show, a little bummed about the vocals on certain songs, but I'm still glad I saw them. They had some good moments.
I disagree completely. Other than not holding notes as long tonight, there was no meaningful difference that I could hear.

He looks noticeably lighter than he did a few years ago, and that will only help his performance going forward.

Given his body language on some of the songs, and how he came in late on PC, I would say he was having monitor issues.

Ali

Well maybe my recollection just isn't that great then.  I just noticed more of an issue with Better and a few other songs this time than a few years ago for whatever reason, whether it's a monitor issue or something else.  I was still glad to be there, and I was still glad to see them again.  Still a great show and just happy they are still active. Sorry if it sounded like I was being too negative.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: gnr1967 on August 01, 2021, 06:58:59 AM
The show started off okay.  Axl's voice was decent until Better imho.  Better was a train wreck as far as vocals.  Although I was a little sad that Hardschool wasn't played, I'm still glad I got to see them after such a long pandemic.  But it was a very predictable show.  I also scored one of the Hershey limited edition lithograph posters.  
I wans't be there sinve Covid started...What is "Hardschool"?
Also it is great that GNR started...Do not complaining...It is great to see them live and ready for rock...
Was stadium full,or there were some Covid restriction?

Sorry if you think I was complaining.  I said it was a great show and I'm glad they're active.  Hardschool is one of the rumored new songs that was rehearsed at one point but never released.  This was my first time posting here in a few years, so sorry if I'm a little rusty with the etiquette here.  I was just excited to see GNR again.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rebelhipi on August 01, 2021, 07:26:07 AM
Firsts shows of a tour have been rusty before.
I was in Berlin 2018 and there were some issues too. It was a a shorter show than usual, They skipped songs like You Could Be Mine and Coma. Axl even said at some point something like ''i suck today'' or ''my voice is fucked today'' 

Not doing a bow at the end is a bit weird. I dont recall that happening before.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: tim_m on August 01, 2021, 07:35:21 AM
There always seems to be a technical issue with the first show. I think they're cursed.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Bodhi on August 01, 2021, 08:15:04 AM


Not doing a bow at the end is a bit weird. I dont recall that happening before.

It might have been either a curfew or a covid precaution thing. 


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: reayj2003 on August 01, 2021, 08:40:37 AM


Not doing a bow at the end is a bit weird. I dont recall that happening before.

It might have been either a curfew or a covid precaution thing. 

Ah yeah, COVID restriction makes sense.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Executioner on August 01, 2021, 09:11:57 AM
His voice sounds poor ok it's been a while since they last played but hopefully he doesn't go down the route of Vince Neil  where he destroys the songs by singing like an injured cat ,I was surprised he sang Jungle so badly as usually he nails it regardless but he may have had some technical issues, it may take a few gigs for him to get up to par  but I think that AC⚡DC tour a few back took a huge toll on his vocal chords and he hasn't  consistently sounded good since then.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: reayj2003 on August 01, 2021, 09:32:04 AM
His voice sounds poor ok it's been a while since they last played but hopefully he doesn't go down the route of Vince Neil  where he destroys the songs by singing like an injured cat ,I was surprised he sang Jungle so badly as usually he nails it regardless but he may have had some technical issues, it may take a few gigs for him to get up to par  but I think that AC⚡DC tour a few back took a huge toll on his vocal chords and he hasn't  consistently sounded good since then.

Were you there?


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on August 01, 2021, 09:41:53 AM
His voice sounds like itís gone forever. Even during jungle he doesnít even tryÖIím good with it, i knew it, but itís sad that he doesnít care anymore, itís pretty clear. Heís not even singin, just gasping for air after 2 songs. Donít try to explain or find excusesÖenough for me. After all this rest you still have no voice ?.  Hope theyíll put out something new in the future, thatís it.
No. Just no. :hihi:

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Christian on August 01, 2021, 10:23:34 AM
His voice was terrible at this show, guys.

No excuses and please donít even compare it to 2017 shows (which were a huge downgrade from 2016ís shows)


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: reayj2003 on August 01, 2021, 10:58:08 AM
From the videos Iíve watched the band sound extremely tight & Frank is sounding great.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: icpillusions on August 01, 2021, 11:08:10 AM
There was absolutely nothing wrong with his voice. I was up front in the PIT. His mic was cutting out randomly throughout the songs. A good example was during Better. I heard him hammering the lyrics but they didn't come out over the sound system. The "gasp of air" people are referring to is him not choosing to sing those lyrics because they were vocally intense. OR the mic was cutting out. He used those moments to communicate with the sound guys. You can see him by the drums looking to the side stage,  talking into the mic, pointing around, and like he's explaining things to some one. It seemed like he was talking to the sound people more than singing.

He gave up the vocally intense lyrics after Better. Just YouTube Jungle. He didn't even attempt the opening scream and did the ending using very clean and safe vocals.

I hope they get things fixed for the next show so he can give 100%.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Trash Panda on August 01, 2021, 11:17:41 AM
I saw them at Voodoo Fest in 2019, and it was really depressing. The first two songs, Axl sounded amazing. Then after that, his voice was shot and he sang in that embarrassing helium voice. I brought my girlfriend and really wanted her to experience the brutal power of this band, but it was a mess due to Axl. Now, the crowd seemed to have a good time and most of them were likely casuals and didn't care. So that's good. It's a show and if they were entertained and had a great time, that's all that matters. But people really need to stop waiting with bated breath for the beginning of a new touring cycle hoping that he will have returned to form. It ain't going to happen. The past is the best predictor of the future. He just sounds terrible. But I am happy for the people who went and had a great time. Life is short and if this brought you joy, that's the point.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on August 01, 2021, 11:22:20 AM
There was absolutely nothing wrong with his voice. I was up front in the PIT. His mic was cutting out randomly throughout the songs. A good example was during Better. I heard him hammering the lyrics but they didn't come out over the sound system. The "gasp of air" people are referring to is him not choosing to sing those lyrics because they were vocally intense. OR the mic was cutting out. He used those moments to communicate with the sound guys. You can see him by the drums looking to the side stage,  talking into the mic, pointing around, and like he's explaining things to some one. It seemed like he was talking to the sound people more than singing.

He gave up the vocally intense lyrics after Better. Just YouTube Jungle. He didn't even attempt the opening scream and did the ending using very clean and safe vocals.

I hope they get things fixed for the next show so he can give 100%.

I just watched the video for NR, and he was absolutely having monitor issues, IMHO. He is looking off to the side of the stage, shakes his head "no" with a look of frustration, then shortly after that says, "that was a little better" while looking to the side of the stage.

I went back and watched the Vive Latino show right before the pandemic shut everything down, and he sounded no different than the last time I saw him in person. There's no way his voice changed in that time period with zero touring short of injury or illness.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on August 01, 2021, 11:40:53 AM
I saw them at Voodoo Fest in 2019, and it was really depressing. The first two songs, Axl sounded amazing. Then after that, his voice was shot and he sang in that embarrassing helium voice. I brought my girlfriend and really wanted her to experience the brutal power of this band, but it was a mess due to Axl. Now, the crowd seemed to have a good time and most of them were likely casuals and didn't care. So that's good. It's a show and if they were entertained and had a great time, that's all that matters. But people really need to stop waiting with bated breath for the beginning of a new touring cycle hoping that he will have returned to form. It ain't going to happen. The past is the best predictor of the future. He just sounds terrible. But I am happy for the people who went and had a great time. Life is short and if this brought you joy, that's the point.
Yeah, he has had to change the way he sings since the '90's. But, the way he sang before is what caused him to develop nodules on his vocal cords and have to postpone shows on the Metallica tour. There's no way to sing the way he used to and not risk vocal injury.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on August 01, 2021, 12:39:06 PM
There was absolutely nothing wrong with his voice. I was up front in the PIT. His mic was cutting out randomly throughout the songs. A good example was during Better. I heard him hammering the lyrics but they didn't come out over the sound system. The "gasp of air" people are referring to is him not choosing to sing those lyrics because they were vocally intense. OR the mic was cutting out. He used those moments to communicate with the sound guys. You can see him by the drums looking to the side stage,  talking into the mic, pointing around, and like he's explaining things to some one. It seemed like he was talking to the sound people more than singing.

He gave up the vocally intense lyrics after Better. Just YouTube Jungle. He didn't even attempt the opening scream and did the ending using very clean and safe vocals.

I hope they get things fixed for the next show so he can give 100%.

During Civil War, he kept looking to the side of the stage, talking into his mic, most likely to the sound guys. His vocals were completely inaudible at the end. IMHO, there were sound issues.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: shaundix on August 01, 2021, 01:05:11 PM
Maybe Axl wouldnít have these technical issues if he participated in the soundcheck.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Executioner on August 01, 2021, 01:42:04 PM
His voice sounds poor ok it's been a while since they last played but hopefully he doesn't go down the route of Vince Neil  where he destroys the songs by singing like an injured cat ,I was surprised he sang Jungle so badly as usually he nails it regardless but he may have had some technical issues, it may take a few gigs for him to get up to par  but I think that AC⚡DC tour a few back took a huge toll on his vocal chords and he hasn't  consistently sounded good since then.

Were you there?
No but it's pretty obvious from the footage on YouTube that he wasn't singing very well he even skipped the intro to Jungle which is very odd never heard him do that before and he struggled with a few other songs including You could be mine which I think they should drop as he ain't able to sing it anymore.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: gnrrock on August 01, 2021, 02:18:41 PM
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/guns-n-roses-first-show-2021/


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: bolton on August 01, 2021, 02:38:59 PM
The show started off okay.  Axl's voice was decent until Better imho.  Better was a train wreck as far as vocals.  Although I was a little sad that Hardschool wasn't played, I'm still glad I got to see them after such a long pandemic.  But it was a very predictable show.  I also scored one of the Hershey limited edition lithograph posters.  
I wans't be there sinve Covid started...What is "Hardschool"?
Also it is great that GNR started...Do not complaining...It is great to see them live and ready for rock...
Was stadium full,or there were some Covid restriction?
I don't think you are cpmplaining...
And thanks for info bro

Sorry if you think I was complaining.  I said it was a great show and I'm glad they're active.  Hardschool is one of the rumored new songs that was rehearsed at one point but never released.  This was my first time posting here in a few years, so sorry if I'm a little rusty with the etiquette here.  I was just excited to see GNR again.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on August 01, 2021, 02:58:01 PM
His voice sounds poor ok it's been a while since they last played but hopefully he doesn't go down the route of Vince Neil  where he destroys the songs by singing like an injured cat ,I was surprised he sang Jungle so badly as usually he nails it regardless but he may have had some technical issues, it may take a few gigs for him to get up to par  but I think that AC⚡DC tour a few back took a huge toll on his vocal chords and he hasn't  consistently sounded good since then.

Were you there?
No but it's pretty obvious from the footage on YouTube that he wasn't singing very well he even skipped the intro to Jungle which is very odd never heard him do that before and he struggled with a few other songs including You could be mine which I think they should drop as he ain't able to sing it anymore.
It's pretty obvious from the YouTube footage that he was having monitor issues.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: XxWickeds10xX on August 01, 2021, 03:03:35 PM
I watched a few Instagram feeds last night and was not thrilled.

I know, I know....first show, pandemic, rusty....

I love the band and am willing to overlook certain things...

Axl sounds like mickey mouse sometimes...no Bueno.

I noticed it alot at the SiriusXM concert a few years back...he just doesn't have that range anymore....and it was obvious last night.

The crazy thing is I love them so much....I DONT CARE....lol


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on August 01, 2021, 03:14:12 PM
I watched a few Instagram feeds last night and was not thrilled.

I know, I know....first show, pandemic, rusty....

I love the band and am willing to overlook certain things...

Axl sounds like mickey mouse sometimes...no Bueno.

I noticed it alot at the SiriusXM concert a few years back...he just doesn't have that range anymore....and it was obvious last night.

The crazy thing is I love them so much....I DONT CARE....lol
All singers lose some of their range with age. Having said that, there's not a dramatic difference in a year with no touring and wear and tear on the vocal cords.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: XxWickeds10xX on August 01, 2021, 03:40:21 PM
Can't wait to see them Thursday in NJ....I'm hoping for the best.

This will be my 8th time seeing them since '89....taking my 16 year old son....his first concert....ever

From experience, Axl always sounds better at the venue....no bootlegs ever do him justice.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on August 01, 2021, 03:43:16 PM
Can't wait to see them Thursday in NJ....I'm hoping for the best.

This will be my 8th time seeing them since '89....taking my 16 year old son....his first concert....ever

From experience, Axl always sounds better at the venue....no bootlegs ever do him justice.
Enjoy!

I find audience recordings hit and miss. There are times when all I can hear is people screaming.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: XxWickeds10xX on August 01, 2021, 03:45:37 PM
Yeah....I have a bootleg of an MSG show from 05 I think....I listened to it so much I can lip sync the conversations the crowd is having during song breaks.....lol


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on August 01, 2021, 03:48:42 PM
Yeah....I have a bootleg of an MSG show from 05 I think....I listened to it so much I can lip sync the conversations the crowd is having during song breaks.....lol
I have a few of those myself. Particularly from before the release of CD. It was a way to listen to new songs, but at the cost of piss poor audio quality.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: PermissionToLand on August 01, 2021, 05:19:26 PM
Seems there was one dude at the show that wanted to get on stage - he was kicked off the train :-D

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSBGQs6DE-U/

WTF? I don't know what happened before the video but he wasn't even beyond the barrier. Seems like overkill to put him in a headlock.


There was absolutely nothing wrong with his voice. I was up front in the PIT. His mic was cutting out randomly throughout the songs. A good example was during Better. I heard him hammering the lyrics but they didn't come out over the sound system. The "gasp of air" people are referring to is him not choosing to sing those lyrics because they were vocally intense. OR the mic was cutting out. He used those moments to communicate with the sound guys. You can see him by the drums looking to the side stage,  talking into the mic, pointing around, and like he's explaining things to some one. It seemed like he was talking to the sound people more than singing.

He gave up the vocally intense lyrics after Better. Just YouTube Jungle. He didn't even attempt the opening scream and did the ending using very clean and safe vocals.

I hope they get things fixed for the next show so he can give 100%.

Well hey, that's actually a very good sign because he always used to just push himself even harder in those scenarios and that's what damaged his voice. He definitely looked thinner so I think he's been taking care of himself and the year of rest couldn't have hurt his voice.

Maybe Axl wouldnít have these technical issues if he participated in the soundcheck.

I know he at least soundchecked Jungle because I saw the video. Probably did a few others too but singing isn't like an instrument, your voice wears out.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on August 01, 2021, 05:32:04 PM
Seems there was one dude at the show that wanted to get on stage - he was kicked off the train :-D

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSBGQs6DE-U/

WTF? I don't know what happened before the video but he wasn't even beyond the barrier. Seems like overkill to put him in a headlock.


There was absolutely nothing wrong with his voice. I was up front in the PIT. His mic was cutting out randomly throughout the songs. A good example was during Better. I heard him hammering the lyrics but they didn't come out over the sound system. The "gasp of air" people are referring to is him not choosing to sing those lyrics because they were vocally intense. OR the mic was cutting out. He used those moments to communicate with the sound guys. You can see him by the drums looking to the side stage,  talking into the mic, pointing around, and like he's explaining things to some one. It seemed like he was talking to the sound people more than singing.

He gave up the vocally intense lyrics after Better. Just YouTube Jungle. He didn't even attempt the opening scream and did the ending using very clean and safe vocals.

I hope they get things fixed for the next show so he can give 100%.

Well hey, that's actually a very good sign because he always used to just push himself even harder in those scenarios and that's what damaged his voice. He definitely looked thinner so I think he's been taking care of himself and the year of rest couldn't have hurt his voice.

Maybe Axl wouldnít have these technical issues if he participated in the soundcheck.

I know he at least soundchecked Jungle because I saw the video. Probably did a few others too but singing isn't like an instrument, your voice wears out.
Bingo. Pushing his voice to be able to hear himself when his monitor system wasn't working is exactly what caused him vocal damage on the Metallica tour. It was why he walked off stage in Montreal.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: (t) on August 01, 2021, 06:49:19 PM
Just watched Dead Horse on youtube. Just a weird performance. Axl was clearly uncomfortable, looking a bit lost, and the band didn't seem all that amped to be playing such a cool deep cut.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on August 01, 2021, 10:59:11 PM
Just watched Dead Horse on youtube. Just a weird performance. Axl was clearly uncomfortable, looking a bit lost, and the band didn't seem all that amped to be playing such a cool deep cut.

They did seem a little freaked. Kind of a weird start but they are back on the road.  :D  Everybody lived through the pandemic and we're still here.  Better shows to come and oh, the possibilities.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ginger King on August 02, 2021, 08:59:20 AM
It sounds like, at best, you can chalk this up to it being the first show, and they always struggle at the start (it baffles me how Axl seems to consistently have mike problems or monitor issues). The setlist (and order) make this NITL 2.0, despite this being touted as an all-new show. It's literally just the same (which is fine, I've enjoyed the multiple NITL shows I've seen) but just speaks to the larger issue of this band pretending to be (or holding out hope that they are) something they're not. Putting Hardschool in the setlist (which they didn't even do) isn't going to change things.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: russkwtx on August 02, 2021, 09:52:04 AM
I was not at the Hershey show but I watched a few clips on Youtube which is admittedly a poor second but it is what it is.

My thoughts:
1. I liked the jam at the beginning of the show that segued into Jungle. That was different and I think it worked.
2. I am not a fan of Axl and short hair. It accentuates his age (he'll be 60 next year!) and is not very rock n' roll IMO.
3. For the past few tours Axl's voice has started out weakly in the beginning but picks up strength as the tour progresses. We'll see what happens but to me it's like a football (US) analogy. Players say that they are in shape but they are not in football shape until they start playing actual games.
4. The available clips varied in quality but I think the band was tight. Seemed though, that similar to a lot of US shows, the crowd just stands there. People are much more energetic in Europe and Latin America.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: russkwtx on August 02, 2021, 09:53:44 AM
Seems there was one dude at the show that wanted to get on stage - he was kicked off the train :-D

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSBGQs6DE-U/

WTF? I don't know what happened before the video but he wasn't even beyond the barrier. Seems like overkill to put him in a headlock.


There was absolutely nothing wrong with his voice. I was up front in the PIT. His mic was cutting out randomly throughout the songs. A good example was during Better. I heard him hammering the lyrics but they didn't come out over the sound system. The "gasp of air" people are referring to is him not choosing to sing those lyrics because they were vocally intense. OR the mic was cutting out. He used those moments to communicate with the sound guys. You can see him by the drums looking to the side stage,  talking into the mic, pointing around, and like he's explaining things to some one. It seemed like he was talking to the sound people more than singing.

He gave up the vocally intense lyrics after Better. Just YouTube Jungle. He didn't even attempt the opening scream and did the ending using very clean and safe vocals.

I hope they get things fixed for the next show so he can give 100%.

Well hey, that's actually a very good sign because he always used to just push himself even harder in those scenarios and that's what damaged his voice. He definitely looked thinner so I think he's been taking care of himself and the year of rest couldn't have hurt his voice.

Maybe Axl wouldnít have these technical issues if he participated in the soundcheck.

I know he at least soundchecked Jungle because I saw the video. Probably did a few others too but singing isn't like an instrument, your voice wears out.
Bingo. Pushing his voice to be able to hear himself when his monitor system wasn't working is exactly what caused him vocal damage on the Metallica tour. It was why he walked off stage in Montreal.

Ali

That was a long time ago, almost 30 years.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: jarmo on August 02, 2021, 09:56:05 AM
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Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on August 02, 2021, 12:35:56 PM
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Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: D-GenerationX on August 02, 2021, 01:43:29 PM

To be honest I like the setlist and at this point in my life (career, child, family, etc) I am good with a solid concise show. Iíve been to the near 3 hour shows multiple times now. That being said with Covid concerns and the steep price of a ticket for a show that hasnít changed in years Iíll be sitting this tour out.

Enjoy that GNR is touring and still delivering the goods folks. Itís no different than seeing the Stones and the celebration that happens when they play a deep cut. They deliver solid shows and around the hour and a half mark too.


This is where I'm at.  Where I've been at since 2016, really.

This is a legacy band.  With that comes a few things.

- stadium shows
- monster ticket prices

This means people paying several hundred dollars are there to hear what they know.  They aren't going to be as charged up to hear 'Locomotive' as we all are.

The Stones comparison is a good one.  Other than the order of the songs, their closing salvo of 5-6 songs has not changed in decades.  And no one complains.  Everyone knows the deal. 


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: johnreed3344 on August 02, 2021, 01:59:42 PM
Seen all the gossip here and some videos. I hope it was first show problems but we have to accept that he just doesnt hit those notes anymore. Philly in 2016 was probably the best I heard him since reunion maybe MSG shows 2017 too. That being said rolling to METLIFE in RV with a CREW! Can't wait to just go rock out.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: D-GenerationX on August 02, 2021, 03:55:05 PM
Seen all the gossip here and some videos. I hope it was first show problems but we have to accept that he just doesnt hit those notes anymore. Philly in 2016 was probably the best I heard him since reunion maybe MSG shows 2017 too. That being said rolling to METLIFE in RV with a CREW! Can't wait to just go rock out.

He was really strong that night in Philly.  And as you recall, it was still 90 plus degrees at 9:30 or whenever the hell they went on.  Was a rough night.

He was not as sharp at the October show in Wells Fargo in October 2017.  But it was still a great show.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rizzo160 on August 02, 2021, 04:31:18 PM
Wonder if they will play Hard School at Fenway park or if it will be the same 25 songs? Hopefully get some new music and better vocals from AXL. :beer:


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on August 02, 2021, 04:47:33 PM
Wonder if they will play Hard School at Fenway park or if it will be the same 25 songs? Hopefully get some new music and better vocals from AXL. :beer:

I know folks keep asking for it but I don't really care for Hard School.  It's a kind of a throw back to another era song.  I don't think it shows any growth in the band's sound.  I haven't paid much attention to it, when was it written?


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on August 02, 2021, 05:25:54 PM
My 2 cents after watching a half dozen videos on youtube -

His voice now does not co-operate with all of the running around he does and the condition he is in.

It's a bad salad.

The guitars seemed way too low but that could be entirely the video quality I viewed.

As for new music - could care less if they played something new as much as I would've liked to hear something / anything from them at least hinting they are working on something new.

Oh well, same old same old


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: rizzo160 on August 02, 2021, 05:38:57 PM
Not sure when it was written, best guess is 94-96. Would love to hear new music whether it's Hard School, the general or unknown song. :beer:


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: PermissionToLand on August 02, 2021, 05:58:52 PM
Wonder if they will play Hard School at Fenway park or if it will be the same 25 songs? Hopefully get some new music and better vocals from AXL. :beer:

I know folks keep asking for it but I don't really care for Hard School.  It's a kind of a throw back to another era song.  I don't think it shows any growth in the band's sound.  I haven't paid much attention to it, when was it written?

Agreed, it's a forgettable song that gets attention because it was leaked. I'd say it was written around '97-98. Clearly not the style of writing Slash and Duff do. And if it were, why would Axl have the '98 lineup record it?

Well I just bit the bullet for tickets at Metlife. Got a good deal on them by holding out, at least.

Wonder if they will play Hard School at Fenway park or if it will be the same 25 songs? Hopefully get some new music and better vocals from AXL. :beer:

I think they will. The Hershey setlist was CLEARLY shortened significantly. A one song encore is very unusual for them. Axl was having mic issues and there was a curfew.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: draguns on August 02, 2021, 06:09:28 PM
My opinion is that Hard School might get  played either tonight or Thursday at MetLife. It would be a good way to play the first new GNR song in a big city.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on August 02, 2021, 07:47:29 PM
Seems there was one dude at the show that wanted to get on stage - he was kicked off the train :-D

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSBGQs6DE-U/

WTF? I don't know what happened before the video but he wasn't even beyond the barrier. Seems like overkill to put him in a headlock.


There was absolutely nothing wrong with his voice. I was up front in the PIT. His mic was cutting out randomly throughout the songs. A good example was during Better. I heard him hammering the lyrics but they didn't come out over the sound system. The "gasp of air" people are referring to is him not choosing to sing those lyrics because they were vocally intense. OR the mic was cutting out. He used those moments to communicate with the sound guys. You can see him by the drums looking to the side stage,  talking into the mic, pointing around, and like he's explaining things to some one. It seemed like he was talking to the sound people more than singing.

He gave up the vocally intense lyrics after Better. Just YouTube Jungle. He didn't even attempt the opening scream and did the ending using very clean and safe vocals.

I hope they get things fixed for the next show so he can give 100%.

Well hey, that's actually a very good sign because he always used to just push himself even harder in those scenarios and that's what damaged his voice. He definitely looked thinner so I think he's been taking care of himself and the year of rest couldn't have hurt his voice.

Maybe Axl wouldnít have these technical issues if he participated in the soundcheck.

I know he at least soundchecked Jungle because I saw the video. Probably did a few others too but singing isn't like an instrument, your voice wears out.
Bingo. Pushing his voice to be able to hear himself when his monitor system wasn't working is exactly what caused him vocal damage on the Metallica tour. It was why he walked off stage in Montreal.

Ali

That was a long time ago, almost 30 years.
You think that I don't know when a tour was that I went to?

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: Ali on August 02, 2021, 07:51:23 PM
Seen all the gossip here and some videos. I hope it was first show problems but we have to accept that he just doesnt hit those notes anymore. Philly in 2016 was probably the best I heard him since reunion maybe MSG shows 2017 too. That being said rolling to METLIFE in RV with a CREW! Can't wait to just go rock out.
He may have lost some of the top end of his range over the years. But, like I said, barring injury or illness affecting his voice, there's no reason at all why that would happen in any discernible way in 1.5 years with no touring. None.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on August 02, 2021, 11:34:46 PM
Wonder if they will play Hard School at Fenway park or if it will be the same 25 songs? Hopefully get some new music and better vocals from AXL. :beer:

I know folks keep asking for it but I don't really care for Hard School.  It's a kind of a throw back to another era song.  I don't think it shows any growth in the band's sound.  I haven't paid much attention to it, when was it written?

Agreed, it's a forgettable song that gets attention because it was leaked. I'd say it was written around '97-98. Clearly not the style of writing Slash and Duff do. And if it were, why would Axl have the '98 lineup record it?

Well I just bit the bullet for tickets at Metlife. Got a good deal on them by holding out, at least.

Wonder if they will play Hard School at Fenway park or if it will be the same 25 songs? Hopefully get some new music and better vocals from AXL. :beer:

I think they will. The Hershey setlist was CLEARLY shortened significantly. A one song encore is very unusual for them. Axl was having mic issues and there was a curfew.

I feel bad for saying something about the song.  Everybody is waiting for something new and it would be a real lift.  Maybe they've changed it up a bit.

They didn't turn on the house lights right away after the encore.  Maybe they were debating if they could get in one more.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: icpillusions on August 03, 2021, 08:37:44 AM
Wonder if they will play Hard School at Fenway park or if it will be the same 25 songs? Hopefully get some new music and better vocals from AXL. :beer:

I know folks keep asking for it but I don't really care for Hard School.  It's a kind of a throw back to another era song.  I don't think it shows any growth in the band's sound.  I haven't paid much attention to it, when was it written?

Agreed, it's a forgettable song that gets attention because it was leaked. I'd say it was written around '97-98. Clearly not the style of writing Slash and Duff do. And if it were, why would Axl have the '98 lineup record it?

Well I just bit the bullet for tickets at Metlife. Got a good deal on them by holding out, at least.

Wonder if they will play Hard School at Fenway park or if it will be the same 25 songs? Hopefully get some new music and better vocals from AXL. :beer:

I think they will. The Hershey setlist was CLEARLY shortened significantly. A one song encore is very unusual for them. Axl was having mic issues and there was a curfew.

I feel bad for saying something about the song.  Everybody is waiting for something new and it would be a real lift.  Maybe they've changed it up a bit.

They didn't turn on the house lights right away after the encore.  Maybe they were debating if they could get in one more.

I was told at the start of the concert that they took the stage 10 to 15 minutes later than when they expected to go on.


Title: Re: Updates: July 31st, 2021 Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium
Post by: cineater on August 03, 2021, 01:47:26 PM
I could use them to go on a couple of hours late tonight.   :hihi:  I've got an appointment with the GNR pinball machine for a good ass kicking.  :D