grief counciling vs AA NA

[horsey]

im supossed to start grief counciling this monday.but they are shoving other things my way.that im not ready for right now.in there program that i start.all the papper work was about alcohol and drugs.in order to start this i may have to go to AA OR NA. and i think when the thrapist called i told her i wasn't home.at least i think it was her calling.is it fair to push someone when they aren't ready to stop drinking yet ?
even though i need to go not to AA  but grief part,that i need really.how do you say you aren't ready for that part of it.should i just not go or should i go through with all of it ?
i mean for the depression part im going through over this.

[horsey]

does anyone know what AA /NA stands for on here ?

[GypsySoul]

AA = Alcoholics Anonymous
NA = Narcotics Anonymous

From reading a lot of your posts on HTGTH,? you should take advantage of all the therapy you can get.

It's all good?

[Loaded NightraiN]

AA = Alcoholics Anonymous
NA = Narcotics Anonymous

From reading a lot of your posts on HTGTH,? you should take advantage of all the therapy you can get.

It's all good?

 

No one who goes into these things is ready... Thats kinda the point.... Totally fair

BTW I think in your case AA means Axlholic Anonymous

[horsey]

YEAH GUESS IT'S TIME TO START THINKIN BEFORE DRINKIN '

[fuckin crazy]

12 step progams(AA/NA) employ a fundementally flawed concept(religion) in an attempt at mantaining a substance free lifestyle. These progams try to lay the "blame" for addiction on anything but the true cause(behavior). When their fallacies are pointed out, they try to "sell" it as something else. According to research, these progams have a 5%-7% success rate. If your car only started 5%-7% of the time, you would get a new car ... I know I would. There is an alternative to the 12 step lie HERE. If a counselor was try to push a 12 step program as a means to get grief couseling, I would find another counselor.

[JMack]

Just try to stop drinking for 30 days and see if your life is better or worse.? Do a pro verses con diary.? Go to a different counselor if they try pushing you into too much.? I'm not big into listening to how drinking and drugs screwed up someones life.? I don't want to listen to someone cry about their problems when someone else has it a lot worse off.
? ? There's a big difference between grief and abuse unless your abusing is out of control and keeping you from acceptance and healing from your grief.

[SLCPUNK]

I think AA is fundamental in the start of sobriety. There are many just like yourself, some with many years of sobriety, that are able to understand what you are going through and help you. You need support, especially in the beginning. I can not stress that enough. 

I also think a GnR message board is that wrong place to post this topic. Find a recovery board and look for others who have overcome their addictions.

[horsey]

AS MY SADNESS DEEPENS
i think i might just have to try it first.if they push rehab or something im not ready for.then i can allways pull out.my drinking doesn't stop my life or cause problems right now.but in the past has been troubling sometimes.one thing has nothing to do with the other unless im useing something to  stop the feelings.and the feelings are the reason for theraphy.right isn't that it ?

[SLCPUNK]

What's an hour out of your life? The thing about AA is that you can meet somebody in your demographic, that can help you outside of those meetings. They've been what you've been through and are there to help you, just as much as themselves.

[JMack]

   I have to say that SLC's advice is the best.  This is not a proper or professional help site.  It would behoove you to look at some self help or AA/NA sites and also go to a house of worship.  It doesn't matter the religion, there are always support groups at these places.  I'm sure there are phone help lines that can direct you also.  Don't be afraid to lean on family and supportive friends either.  Whatever your problems may be good luck and I hope you get well.
   Give the PC a break and deal with your life without looking at a screen for a while.  This site isn't going any where and when you feel better jump back into the light side and who knows maybe some new music will be out too.
   Again good luck..J.Mack

[freedom78]

I don't know much about this stuff (the value of therapy, AA versus "rational" programs, etc.), but I wanted to say good luck, in dealing with whatever issues you're facing. 

[Axl4Prez2004]

Horsey, good luck with whatever method you choose in shaking that monkey off your back.  I can speak from somewhat personal experience.  My brother was a very bad alcoholic from teen years throughout his 20's and into his 30's.  Honestly, I never thought he'd shake it because I never really knew him as anything different.  It's a sad waste of a brain.  Anyhow, the happy ending is the fact he hit a pretty bad low and checked himself into an alcohol rehab facility. 

It's been about 7 years now and he hasn't had a drink since.  Is he an alcoholic?  We could argue that till the cows come home, but at the end of the day, if he's not drinking, he's not an alcoholic in my eyes.  My personal belief is that the only replacement for Wild Turkey is cold turkey...and physical exercise of course.

My bro made it through, and he's advancing in the Finance industry...doing quite well.  Life's too short to fuck it all up with excess alcohol or drugs.  Good luck Horsey!!!! 

btw, I think the AA thing helped my bro initially, and he's not religious.  Honestly, it's more of a "someone to talk to who's been down the same road" type network than a religious thing.    

[SLCPUNK]

AA preaches "A God of your understanding" or "Higher power". Sure there are bible thumpers that attend, but there are bible thumpers everywhere you go in life. There is no expectation that you become a Christian in AA. If somebody expects that from you as a part of recovery, then I suggest finding another meeting, and there are plenty to choose from.

[LittleFly]

I agree with SLC too.  I started going to NA in 1992 and it helped me a whole lot. I didn't have a horrible problem though.  I stopped going around 1999 or so when I got pregant.  I haven't been back since, and I have not had a drink or drug since 1992.

It definetly helped me to understand how to better live my life, but that's what I got out of it.  I've developed a kind of spirituality, again, my take on things.

I want to wish you good luck and an open mind to help you through your grief and other issues