Slash Confirms Plans For Live Cd & DVD

[Eazy E]

Sure. But there are fans out there who'd rather buy the tracks legally and support "their" band rather than download the tracks.

So to support "their" band they have to purchase an album they already own twice?  I think a fan that doesn't like the fact that the only way they can get those B-Sides is by re-purchasing the album can download those songs without guilt.  In all likelihood a fan that is even AWARE of those B-sides would go see the band live and that's how an artist makes the real money. 

You can support a band without supporting their marketing scheme to push more units of their album.

I would be very disappointed if any of the band members would criticize a fan who purchased their album, went to see them in concert, and then downloaded three b-sides because they don't want to waste their money.

Dave - I don't think the band can be blocked from releasing a live album featuring a cover song... I may be wrong though.

[Falcon]

Here is a question, if VR do infact put out a live album, I dont think we will be seeing any gnr songs on it since I dont see Axl allowing them to use those songs, plus I dont think interscope/geffen would allow another label to use their songs.

Not sure how that works although they apparently had no problem licensing the rights to the Aerosmith, Cheap Trick and Nirvana tunes that have appeared so far.

If Axl has any say, it would be a no go for sure, if it's up to the label I'm sure they'd give the go ahead for the right price..

[Booker Floyd]

Because it's actually considered illegal?

I think youre one of the few internet-savvy people to actually acknowledge the legality of downloading 3 somewhat hard-to-get songs.  The speed limit is often 50 miles an hour...how many people do you think strictly abide by that rule?  If the original poster geuinely has morality issues with downloading a couple of songs, fair enough.  But I think its kind of silly, to be honest...

Talking of choices. Flying to Europe and actually buying the singles over here is an option too.

But why do that when you can get a discounted used copy with the links Ive provided? 

You seem to have a thing for arguing about words.

Replace "words" with "false statements" and youve got an accurate statement.  Because you stating that 1) The songs werent available on other releases and 2) Buying Contraband is the only way to get them are both incorrect statements.  There are other options.

Buying full-price albums and imported singles isn't an option for every fan. Downloading illegal mp3s isn't an option for all fans.

Sure they are.  Just like buying used copies of said singles is an option.

Instead of saying what many people here think, that it's lame to re-package the album three times instead of releasing the b-sides on an EP or something, you keep telling everybody how great choices VR has given the fans.

I do?  Once again - incorrect statement.  I thought the three album covers thing was a good idea, for a few reasons.  However, Ive never said anything about the bonus track and DualDisc editions being good ideas, because I dont think they are.  Thats why Ive said that Ive only bought one copy of Contraband.  If anybody chooses to buy more than one, thats their prerogative...but whats the point in buying it if you think its lame?  I think those re-releases are lame (and perpetuated by RCA rather than VR) - thats why I have chosen not to buy them.  Therefore I dont bitch about them.  Everybody can think theyre lame, Im not challenging that.  Im challenging anybody bitching about being "forced" into buying them.  Thats complete bullshit.  You either choose to buy them or dont.  If you do, you know what youre getting when you pay for it, and I have zero compassion for your gripes.

[Wooody]

Sure. But there are fans out there who'd rather buy the tracks legally and support "their" band rather than download the tracks.




/jarmo

most of the time the only thing you're supporting is the big fat greasy guy in a suit behind a desk.
Sometimes I buy an album sometimes I download. it depends on the situation. If it's a all time favorite and classic, I'll buy it. if it's independent I'll buy it... If it's a new aerosmith album I will download it  I'm not giving those rich fucks any of my money.  I would rather support my bands by going to their concerts rather than buying their albums.
Downloading is true democracy 

[jarmo]

Booker, why just not admit that not everybody has the choice of ordering used copies of imported singles online so in order to get the extra tracks they need to take their $15 to their local record store and buy Contraband?

I can download tracks myself, but I don't look down on people who don't. I understand where this person is coming from, you seem to make him out to be some kind of loser by telling him he should've ordered the singles online or downloaded the tracks if he wanted to hear them.

Just because you and I have all these choices doesn't mean everybody else has them. Does that make any sense to you?




/jarmo

[tomass74]

I thought they were gonna release certain concerts as live albums?

Kind of what Pearl Jam did...... Or did I dream that part up?



/jarmo

You didn't dream it up. There was talk about maybe doing instant live or something.

[tomass74]

This live DVD/CD better be something new and refreshing.? I own three copies of Contraband:regular version, best buy exclusive with three bonus tracks of unreleased tracks, and the dual disc.? I think it's getting a little ridiculous that I have to buy Contraband every damn time to get new material from the band.

I don't see why you had to buy it 3 times I have one.  Maybe twice if you wanted the covers without having to buy the singles but the Dual Disc so you can see two videos that you can download on the internet for free?

[tomass74]

Sure. But there are fans out there who'd rather buy the tracks legally and support "their" band rather than download the tracks.




/jarmo

Screw that. They got enough of my money from the Contraband CD I bought and the 3 soon to be 4 concerts I attended. I don't feel bad for downloading teh B-sides. I actually only heard bodies and Negative Creep once, didn't think they did No More No More justice and haven't heard Surrender. Had to download Money though, that wasn't on anything was it???

[tomass74]

Dave - I don't think the band can be blocked from releasing a live album featuring a cover song... I may be wrong though.

I don't think they can just release cover songs whether they are live or not.  I remeber when Live Era came out Slash or Axl said that the reason they didn't put all the cover intros in it like Mother, Sail Away Sweet Sister, Only Women Bleed and stuff because they didn't want to run around getting permission for all that. I do realize they put It's Allright and KOHD on there but they didn't want to do it for all of em. 

I still don't think Axl would put up a big stink anyway. He knows the guys had a part in those songs.....

[Jamie]

I hope it's the concert in Dublin. I was at that and haven't shut up about it since!

[Acquiesce]

Booker, why just not admit that not everybody has the choice of ordering used copies of imported singles online so in order to get the extra tracks they need to take their $15 to their local record store and buy Contraband?

I can download tracks myself, but I don't look down on people who don't. I understand where this person is coming from, you seem to make him out to be some kind of loser by telling him he should've ordered the singles online or downloaded the tracks if he wanted to hear them.

Just because you and I have all these choices doesn't mean everybody else has them. Does that make any sense to you?




/jarmo

You are correct, but that doesn't mean that someone should complain because VR gives their fans yet another choice to obtain this material. They could have easily left these b-sides to import singles only just like most bands do with  their imports. Would people be nitpicking over that, too? Sure, packaging these b-sides with Contraband isn't the most ideal choice for us fans, but they did offer an easier choice for us American fans to obtain these songs. I'm sorry if someone can't afford another copy of Contraband to get these songs, but that's life. I can't afford a Corvette but I'm not going to start complaining to Chevrolet about their price. If someone is worried about money they also have the choice of buying CB with b-sides and then sell their original copy of CB.