because two men or two women cant be 'married'
Do you allow anybody to just come in and change the entire meaning of a legal institution because they want to.
Something thats been that way since the beginning.
Why even get married in the first place, its 'just a word'?
Marriage vows, legal ramifications and everything it stands for is an established union.
You dont just change it because a squeaky wheel wants some grease. No pun intended.
Where does it end, boys want to join the girlscouts, girls want to join the boys club.
Two gay people can live together, rasie children, share benefits, leave estates to each other, whatever, but its not 'marriage'. 'If its just a word' then what IS the big deal.
Your asking to change a respected institution that people entered with the understanding that there was a defined meaning.
And no one is trying to overturn Roe Wade,
just clarify that there needs to be a law stating a young child needs to involve her parents with a decision that only an adult can understand the consequences vs options.
And you are overestimating your 'team' if you think the mid terms are going to speak your message across the board.
And why can't 2 men or 2 women be married?? Because you say so??
Marriage, as a legal concept, wouldn't change a WHIT if men were allowed to marry men, or women were allowed to marry women.? Only the "allowable participants" would be changed.? And so what if they were.? Explain to me, seriously, what the fucking difference would be?? Who, exactly, would be harmed by it??
You? Because it would somehow "cheapen" your marriage? How?? How would it make the love and commitment you show to your spouse any more or less meaningful?? How would the legal benefits that you get from your marriage be any different?
It would simply allow people who want to be in a long term, committed relationship to enjoy the same sort of FEDERAL (as in filing joint tax returns, sharing Social Security benefits, etc) benefits that you enjoy with your wife.? I just don't see what the big deal is...unless you turn it into a religeous argument.
As for boys being in the girlscouts and girls being in the boys club...it's a different ball of wax.? There exists (the boy scouts and the girls club) a DIFFERENT, yet EQUAL, opportunity for them.? ?It's almost like the Title 9 rulings in regards to sports that allow girls, who are so inclined, to play football or wrestle on what is traditionally an all guys team if there IS no girls football or girls wrestling team.? There IS no federal equivalent to "marriage".? And, given it's just a stinking word, of what benefit is it to invest the time, energy, and resources into recreating an exact duplicate of an existing institution, under a different name, just because "the squeaky wheel", as you so elequently put it, doesn't like the existing terminology to be applied to gay people? Sorta assinine, ain't it?? All stemming from the fact some people are, for some weird reason, offended when their relationship MIGHT share a term with a gay relationship.?
? And that, right there, is the crux of the matter, with all the bullshit stripped away.
And again, to add to your "education", two gay people can absolutely NOT enjoy, right now, the same rights, in the eyes of the federal government, as two married adults.? Can not.?
As for not wanting to overturn Roe v Wade....again, some education on the subject:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-01-24-abortion_x.htmListen closely to Bush's speech to the crowd (which is an included audio link)
http://www.chronwatch.com/featured/contentDisplay.asp?aid=3191There's many, many, many more articles on the subject, from a variety of sources, and quotes abound from a variety of high ranking Repub party members, all saying they want RvW overturned, or that they disagree, greatly, with the RvW ruling.?? Use google...I'm getting sort of sick of having to "educate you" in thread after thread after thread.
Now, I'm not saying they want to make abortion illegal.? They want it returned to a states rights issue, which is different.? But would still necessitate RvW being overturned.?
And I don't surmise to know WHAT the midterms will bring.?
And, once again, for posterity, the Dems are not "my team".? However, if things progress as they are now, the Repubs are either going to distance themselves HUGELY from the president and his policies OR the Dems are going to walk all over them.? In either case, IF THE CURRENT CLIMATE CONTINUES, it's going to need to be a vastly different landscape come the midterms than it is now.? So it looks like there WILL be a very different message being sent than the one that was sent during the '04 elections...at least as things stand today.