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« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2006, 10:55:24 AM »

Bringing up a topic from the grave!  Grin

I'm a vegetarian! I've always been, i've never liked meat, ever!

And I wasn't raised to be a vegeterian, all my family likes to eat animals, but I never feel good about it...a lot og guilty going on no

But I'm not a vegan though...I do drink milk, eat cheese...
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« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2006, 11:34:59 AM »

y the fuck would any1 want to b a veggie
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« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2006, 02:08:54 PM »

i dont see any problem with people wanting to be a vegeterian or vegan, however i could never ever be one. i love meat and i couldnt imagine not eating it. i love all animals. but i dont personally have a problem with eating meat.
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« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2006, 03:21:08 PM »

One thing I never understood about vegans/vegetarians was how they won't eat meet for "moral" reasons.  However, did they ever consider the hundreds of thousands of field mice, rabbits, badgers, snakes, etc.  that are killed while harvesting grains and other produce?  If all life is precious (something I've heard many claim on this board) then why the indiscriminatory killing of all plants.  They are just as able to lead fulfilling lives in their capacity as any cow can.  The difference is that plants exist in nature, cows don't.  Cows are an animal man created through domestication with the sole purpose of being food.  So many arbitrary titles and excuses and not one good reason behind them.  Only one species deserves special consideration; humans.  Why you might ask?  Because humans are the only animals that can govern their own actions; understand how things are and how they should be.  How anyone can say depriving yourself of an essential food group and something your body was designed to consume is wrong is just loony.  To each their own, but when wackos like the Sierra Club and Peta come knocking... well I won't go there.
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« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2006, 03:49:54 PM »

One thing I never understood about vegans/vegetarians was how they won't eat meet for "moral" reasons.? However, did they ever consider the hundreds of thousands of field mice, rabbits, badgers, snakes, etc.? that are killed while harvesting grains and other produce??

Organic farmers take special consideration when growing produce.? They don't kill any creatures intentionally unlike traditional methods.

If all life is precious (something I've heard many claim on this board) then why the indiscriminatory killing of all plants.
plants and vegetables are precious. I think the answer between the difference of animals and plants is obvious.

Only one species deserves special consideration; humans.? Why you might ask?? Because humans are the only animals that can govern their own actions; understand how things are and how they should be.

I don't agree. Animals in the wild are perfectly capable of governing their actions. Even the domesticated animals are capable of governing their own actions. And, it's kind of selfish to say that only humans deserve special consideration.

How anyone can say depriving yourself of an essential food group and something your body was designed to consume.

There are other ways to get protein.

To each their own.

Is that sarcasm?? hihi


but when wackos like the Sierra Club and Peta come knocking... well I won't go there..

I don't? support PETA, because they have a long history of disrespecting and even physically attacking people who don't believe in what they do. They're too extreme for me.

My whole family eats meat, and they think I'm crazy for not. But that's ok. I know who I am and what works best for me, and I don't try to force it on anyone.








 






 




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« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2006, 04:48:23 PM »

So, how do you feel about vegetarianism? Is it crazy? Does it make any sense to you? What is your opinion or theory on this subject?

I don't think it's crazy or anything. It's probably very healthy and good for you. I just couldn't do it because I love meat too much. I'm definitely a true carnovour. hihi yes
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« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2006, 01:46:08 AM »

I'm cool with it except for the preachy set who treat you like an evil bastard for following the eco-system.

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« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2006, 04:16:42 AM »

Bringing up a topic from the grave!  Grin

I'm a vegetarian! I've always been, i've never liked meat, ever!

And I wasn't raised to be a vegeterian, all my family likes to eat animals, but I never feel good about it...a lot og guilty going on no

But I'm not a vegan though...I do drink milk, eat cheese...
guilt going on? give me a fucking break!

are you like one of those "oh and the birds, they like die *insert some crying*". It's not like you're eating the house pet.

Oh but the birds, the chickens!  crying
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« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2006, 04:53:56 AM »

I could never be a vegetarian. (...) Some vegetarian make me think of some non-smokers. They look at you like you're the Antichrist if you eat a burger or smoke a cigarette. Not all of them are like that but I hate when they do that. Btw, what's up with the "veggie burgers"? Have you ever tried that? It tastes like plastic. And if you don't like meat, why even trying to prepare something that's so similar in appearance to a ground beef burger? Doesn't make sense to me.

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« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2006, 11:40:08 AM »

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If all life is precious (something I've heard many claim on this board) then why the indiscriminatory killing of all plants.

Animals have emotions. Plants don't. Animals are capable of governing their actions. Plants don't. Animals can procriate(don't know if I wrote it correctly, sorry Undecided) themselves. Plants don't.

You know when someone is incredibly ill and in vegetative state because they can't do anything on their own? Why do you think it's called "vegetative"?  Roll Eyes

Bringing up a topic from the grave!  Grin

I'm a vegetarian! I've always been, i've never liked meat, ever!

And I wasn't raised to be a vegeterian, all my family likes to eat animals, but I never feel good about it...a lot og guilty going on no

But I'm not a vegan though...I do drink milk, eat cheese...
guilt going on? give me a fucking break!

are you like one of those "oh and the birds, they like die *insert some crying*". It's not like you're eating the house pet.

Oh but the birds, the chickens!  crying

I feel guilty because I think: "This piece of meat was a living animal - like myself - awhile ago", and it freaks me out! I'm sorry if it doesn't freaks you out.

PS.: I'm not that kind of crazy vegetarian that keeps preaching over everyone trying to make them also a vegeterian. If you eat meat, that's fine for me, after all it's a choice that you made and I have to respect that, as well as you has to respect my choice of not eat meat, either for guilty or for think it's healthier. ok
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« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2006, 02:45:40 PM »

I'm not quite sure how objective I can be about this subject since I lived with a vegan my freshman year at college.? She drove me nuts with her preaching and constant attacks on my character for choosing to eat meat and wear leather.? I know all vegetarians and vegans are not like that, but I still bristle when I hear people discuss it because I can't help but feel there's an element of judgment there, even when they say they are not judging others.? Having said that, I respect vegans/vegetarians if that's the choice they've made, especially since it's a struggle for a lot of them to not eat meat when they want to.?

Since someone brought up PETA, I just have to give my two cents on this organization.? I respect their convictions, but I do agree they are extreme on their attacks on people, like throwing blood on fur, etc.? Anyway you try to justify it, that's assault, and I don't think the ends justify the means in this case.? Also, I have been involved in animal rescue work for over 20 years, being very hands on.? When I had looked into PETA, they told me they raise funds for public awareness, which means that all of that money they raise goes into their campaigns.? I know it's good to raise awareness BUT I feel like PETA is one big publicity machine that has to resort to pulling stunts, like storming runways or Pam Anderson taking her clothes off.? They don't storm the mink farms and let loose animals because that doesn't get them as much attention as accosting Giselle Bundchen on a runway (which they did at the Victoria's Secret fashion show).
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« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2006, 03:32:21 PM »

I respect that.  I eat very little meat actually, and never beef.   peace
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« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2006, 08:19:52 PM »

Eating red meat/cow is much worse for the environment than many think. In South America millions of acres of the amazon rain forest are cleared out for grazeland and cattle?confused Sounds stupid but it is worth the money for farmers to destroy rare habitat just so big, dumb herds of cattle have room to stand. The real dumb part is north of the Amazon basin is a big grassland where theres enough room for a whole country to do nothing but graze cattle, but no, every country must have its own cow range? Roll Eyes I dont understand why people like red meat and dairy so much. The effects on the environment are devastating. Even Filet Minions sometimes suck because they have too much ass fat in them. And the smell of Milk reminds me of cold diarehha.

I admit to liking a well done steak every once in awhile, but if it has any strands of fat in the meat i cant finish it. Dairy i think is gross, so i mostly eat vegetables and grains and sometimes seafood. The ocean is a whole other problem as 100 million sharks were killed in the fishing industry last year. And some countries have bizarre rituals that believe eating rare sea or other animals is good for you.
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« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2006, 08:51:08 PM »

Eating red meat/cow is much worse for the environment than many think. In South America millions of acres of the amazon rain forest are cleared out for grazeland and cattle confused Sounds stupid but it is worth the money for farmers to destroy rare habitat just so big, dumb herds of cattle have room to stand. The real dumb part is north of the Amazon basin is a big grassland where theres enough room for a whole country to do nothing but graze cattle, but no, every country must have its own cow range  Roll Eyes I dont understand why people like red meat and dairy so much. The effects on the environment are devastating. Even Filet Minions sometimes suck because they have too much ass fat in them. And the smell of Milk reminds me of cold diarehha.

I admit to liking a well done steak every once in awhile, but if it has any strands of fat in the meat i cant finish it. Dairy i think is gross, so i mostly eat vegetables and grains and sometimes seafood. The ocean is a whole other problem as 100 million sharks were killed in the fishing industry last year. And some countries have bizarre rituals that believe eating rare sea or other animals is good for you.

I'd like to see some documentation that 100 million sharks were killed by man last year.
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