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« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2007, 02:09:11 PM »

alot of schools have dress code too....so if one is allowed to wear somethign on their head then everyone should be....if its democracy....again them's the breaks Undecided



When I started year 12 at a catholic school there was a muslim kid with a beard but the school had a no facial hair policy but the school let him go with it. I was nearly suspended for not shaving. Even tho this kid wasn't born here nor the same religion as the school it was ok for him but I got my arse kicked coz I wasn't the right religion.

Another catholic school in sydney last year was taunted by protestors and the media because they had a no Non School uniform headwear policy. A Muslim girl wanted to wear her scarf but the school said its not uniform. So she complained to A Current Affair and they ran the story every night untill this sook got her own way. While the rest of the Catholic kids got fuck all.

Hows that for Democracy?


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now you are assuming that catholics run the church on a democracy hihi

and thats the second gnr album!!! CATHOLIC DEMONCRACY!

I'm wondering...did you intentionally misspell democracy?

sorry to dissapointed but i didnt.
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« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2007, 05:24:37 PM »

alot of schools have dress code too....so if one is allowed to wear somethign on their head then everyone should be....if its democracy....again them's the breaks Undecided



When I started year 12 at a catholic school there was a muslim kid with a beard but the school had a no facial hair policy but the school let him go with it. I was nearly suspended for not shaving. Even tho this kid wasn't born here nor the same religion as the school it was ok for him but I got my arse kicked coz I wasn't the right religion.

Another catholic school in sydney last year was taunted by protestors and the media because they had a no Non School uniform headwear policy. A Muslim girl wanted to wear her scarf but the school said its not uniform. So she complained to A Current Affair and they ran the story every night untill this sook got her own way. While the rest of the Catholic kids got fuck all.

Hows that for Democracy?


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now you are assuming that catholics run the church on a democracy hihi

and thats the second gnr album!!! CATHOLIC DEMONCRACY!


They're also releasing Appetite for Denomination and Use You Islam
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« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2007, 05:16:37 PM »

Soccer officials fail to change rules about wearing hijab
Last Updated: Saturday, March 3, 2007 | 3:36 PM ET
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An 11-year-old Ottawa soccer player said Saturday she will continue to fight for her right to wear her hijab, even though the the world's top soccer association has refused to change its rules on the issue.

"I thought it was disappointing because I thought I would actually make a difference, but I didn't," Asmahan Mansour told CBC News from Ottawa.

"I'm proud that my team was there with me and my coach."

Mansour had been hoping that the F?d?ration Internationale de Football Association, or FIFA, would produce a ruling in her favour on the matter as it held its annual general meeting in Manchester, England.

Instead, FIFA officials remained firm in their intention to not change the regulations.

"If you play football there's a set of laws and rules, and law four outlines the basic equipment," Brian Barwick, chief executive of the English Football Association, told reporters.

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"It's absolutely right to be sensitive to people's thoughts and philosophies, but equally there has to be a set of laws that are adhered to," he said.

In particular, FIFA said it would not alter the law dealing with items that a player is entitled to wear. Head scarves are not mentioned in that law.

On Feb. 25, Mansour was not allowed to participate in a soccer game in Laval, Que., because she was wearing a hijab, a headscarf worn by many Muslim women. The Quebec Soccer Association said the ban on hijabs is to protect children from being accidentally strangled.

FIFA officials made it clear they were not going to change the existing rules ? or explain them, the CBC's Adrienne Arsenault reported from Manchester.

"We understand from people who were in or near the meeting that it was quite a heated discussion," Arsenault said.

"Do the rules mean a hijab is or is not allowed? The answer kept coming back that the laws are what the laws are," she said.

"Obviously, it's a disappointing decision. It's very difficult for us as a team," coach Louis Maneiro told CBC News.

"I, for one, am in agreement that there have to be rules to protect the children," he said.

"If it had been a safety issue and the referee could clearly demonstrate that was the case then I wouldn't have had any problem with that. I hope Quebec can see that."

After Mansour was ejected from the game on Feb. 25, her team withdrew from the tournament saying they won't come back until the rules are changed.

"I just hope that one day Quebec will change the rules and I'll be able to play," Mansour told CBC News.

"I'm just hoping that any girl with the hijab does not go through what I went through."
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« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2007, 07:07:18 PM »

Regarding why muslim women cover:  (found this one explanation online)
"when a woman is covered, men cannot judge her by her appearance but are forced to evaluate her by her personality, character, and morals. "I tell them that the hijab is not a responsibility, it's a right given to me by my Creator who knows us best. It's a benefit to me, so why not? It's something every woman should strive to get and should want."
Muslim women only cover themselves in front of men who are not direct relatives (brothers, fathers, and uncles) to prevent indecent acts or thoughts."

Women's hair has had a historical context of representing sexuality, sensuality, etc.  It probably is in the same vein as why nuns have covered their hair with the habits.  It's an expression of modesty and piety.

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« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2007, 10:01:12 PM »

Regarding why muslim women cover:  (found this one explanation online)
"when a woman is covered, men cannot judge her by her appearance but are forced to evaluate her by her personality, character, and morals. "I tell them that the hijab is not a responsibility, it's a right given to me by my Creator who knows us best. It's a benefit to me, so why not? It's something every woman should strive to get and should want."
Muslim women only cover themselves in front of men who are not direct relatives (brothers, fathers, and uncles) to prevent indecent acts or thoughts."

Women's hair has had a historical context of representing sexuality, sensuality, etc.  It probably is in the same vein as why nuns have covered their hair with the habits.  It's an expression of modesty and piety.

Any of you hear the quotes from Sjeik al Heilaly (or some spelling) (The Australian Mufti) down under. Now I know they were condemned by a lot of the muslim community down here, but equally so they were praised and supported by many.

He said something about how a woman that does not wear the headscarf is a lot like a piece of meat that is left uncovered in the street. If one does not cover it up, you can hardly blame the dogs for coming up and eating it. You blame whoever did not cover it up.

What he seems to be implying here is that Australian women who don't cover themselves from head to toe deserve to be gang raped. While the muslim men doing the raping, are nothing but "dogs" who cannot control their urges and shouldn't be exprected to anyway.

I cannot believe to tell you how much this statement pissed me (and a lot of Australians) off (although I refused to attend the absolute macho Aussie bullshit that took place in Cronulla on that fateful day).
If I was a muslim man I would be equally pissed, being referred to as a "dog" by my own Muslim leader.

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« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2007, 10:32:14 PM »

Muslim women only cover themselves in front of men who are not direct relatives (brothers, fathers, and uncles) to prevent indecent acts or thoughts."

... because all men are raging sex beasts that don't think, and women never judge men by their appearance.
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« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2007, 02:35:15 AM »

i don't see anything wrong with what the ref did.

i don't see why the girl needs any special treatment. its a two way street. if muslims want to fit in with society and be equal then they can't turn around and say "hey i'm special so the rules shouldn't apply" when it works in their favour.

and her whole team not playing because of it?

come on. the world does not revolve around her.

no jewellery or hats or scarfs or anything are allowed while playing most sports like soccer and basketball.

it just so happens that the religion of islam happens to have a rule about the hijab. its not like the federation of soccer when creating the rules thought "hmmmmmmmmm whats the best way we can exclude those muslims from our game". Roll Eyes

lucky theres nothing like that in the bible.........otherwise we'd have every christian complaining that they shouldnt have to take off their cross when they play soccer.



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« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2007, 08:55:39 AM »

personally i was always under the impression these vail things were invented when osama and co took over after the soviet failed on its war on afghanistan.....im sure i read that before this the women did not wear them.
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« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2007, 11:01:57 AM »

personally i was always under the impression these vail things were invented when osama and co took over after the soviet failed on its war on afghanistan.....im sure i read that before this the women did not wear them.

No, they didn't invent them.  It's just a more "by the book," strict interpretation of Islam.  And, since the Taliban were pretty strict Muslims, the women wore them.
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