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[timebomb]

in a way that site is great for fans and in a way it is not.

1 way it is good is there are some sources they get i have not seen on the dime or in trading circles.
2 examples are
a donington micpad set i bought
b no sleep to hammersmith 6,7,06

i bought both sets and put out

the way it is bad is the prices rthey charge, but like i said there is alot of different sources trhey get not traded is why i buy

[estebanf]

And what is even worse, they use to make '''''''''silver''''''''' discs with horribly lossy sources. Look at these:

I would like to see the times in this CD-R... I don't know why I smell something rare with this one...

VELVET REVOLVER / DOWNLOAD FESTIVAL 2007 = This was captured from Download Festivals June 8, 2007 M070622 WWR 3000Y/3150Y(w/tax) (1CDR) ヴェルヴェット・リヴォルヴァー、2007年6月8日ダウンロード・フェスティバル出演時のライブを高音質音源にて収録。話題のニュー・アルバム「リベルタド・自由」からの新曲と過去の代表曲をフェスティバル向けに演奏。バンドの一体感が素晴らしく、5人（スコット、スラッシュ、ダフ、マット、デイヴ）のタイトな演奏が熱狂的です。ガンズの「イッツ・ソー・イージー」そして新曲「レット・イット・ロール」「シーマイン」を早くライブで聴きたいファン必聴です！ 1. Let it roll 2. Do It For The Kids 3. Sucker Train Blues 4. She mine 5. Vasoline 6. Fall to pieces 7. It's so easy 8. She Builds Quick Machines 9. Sex Type Thing 10. Set me free 11. Psycho Killer 12. Mr. Brownstone 13. Slither

Here's the VR show in Buenos Aires, soundboard, but lossy sourced. The real lossless source exists, but hasn't circulated yet.

VELVET REVOLVER / BUENOS AIRES 2007 = Live at Estadio River Plate, Buenos Aires, Argentina April 15,16, 2007 C070607 4500Y/4725Y(w/tax) (2CDR) 間もなく最新アルバム「LIBERTAD」がリリースされるヴェルヴェット・リヴォルヴァーの今年4月15、16日のアルゼンチン、ブエノス・アイレスでの2公演が共に完全収録で早くも登場！15日はQUILMES ROCK FESTIVAL出演のためセット・リストが短めですが、16日の公演は単独のフル・ステージで収録。いち早くニュー・アルバム収録曲のライヴを楽しむことが出来るアイテムです。 Disc 1: 1.INTRO 2.DO IT FOR THE KIDS 3.LET IT ROLL 4.SUCKER TRAIN BLUES 5.SUPERHUMAN 6.SHE MINE 7.CRACKERMAN 8.FALL TO PIECES 9.GET OUT THE DOOR 10.IT'S SO EASY 11.SEX TYPE THING 12.SHE BUILDS QUICK MACHINES 13.SET ME FREE 14.WISH YOU WERE HERE 15.USED TO LOVE HER 16.MR.BROWNSTONE 17.SLITHER "Live at Pepsi Music Stadium, Buenos Aires, Argentina April 16, 2007" Disc 2: 1.INTRO 2.DO IT FOR THE KIDS 3.LET IT ROLL 4.SUCKER TRAIN BLUES 5.CRACKERMAN 6.FALL TO PIECES 7.IT'S SO EASY 8.SHE BUILDS QUICK MACHINES 9.WISH YOU WERE HERE 10.SET ME FREE 11.SEX TYPE THING 12.MR.BROWNSTONE 13.SLITHER "Live at Estadio River Plate, Buenos Aires, Argentina April 15, 2007"

Here's macgunner DVD

VELVET REVOLVER / Chile 2007 = Santiago, Chile, 10th April 2007 80min Pro-shot G070705 Second Line 4000Y/4200Y(w/tax) (1DVDR) 待望のニューアルバム『LIBERTADO』がリリースとなったVELVET REVOLVERの2007年ライブ映像、4/10のチリ公演を全16曲、80分に亘り高画質プロショット収録！南米チリのテレビ放送に用いられたマスターを使用しており、欧米の放送用ソースに比べて若干映像が粗めとなっていますが、安定したプロショットで全編ストレス無く楽しむことができ、何よりも長尺のステージ全編を収録したアイテムとしてファンにとっては見逃せないはずです。セットリスト的には、ファースト『Contraband』、セカンド『Libertado』、G'NRとSTPの楽曲とバランスの良いものとなっており、何よりも懐かしの「Used To Love Her」がセットインしている点が長年のガンズファンにとっては非常に嬉しいところでしょう！ 01.TV Commercial 02.Let It Roll 03.Do It For The Kids 04.Superhuman 05.Suckertrain Blues 06.She Mine 07.Fall To Pieces 08.Crackerman 09.Get Out The Door 10.It's So Easy 11.Sex Type Thing 12.She Builds Quick Machines 13.Set Me Free 14.Wish You Were Here 15.Used To Love Her 16.Mr. Brownstone 17.Slither

[timebomb]

esteban when can u help me like u said u had most of the cdr on my list but 1

[estebanf]

esteban when can u help me like u said u had most of the cdr on my list but 1

I've already told you like four times that I have them all, but NOT here where I am living right now.

[Will]

Yeah, they used some of our sources, mine and others as well. I don't care about it that much. They're making some bucks but it's not like they're selling at FYE, Tower Records or Virgin Megastore, so whatever...I thought it actually mattered a few years ago, now I really don't care...just my personal opinion though. I understand why people hate them, I was in the same state of mind a couple of years ago...people evolve and carry on with their lives.

[timebomb]

well we all know the bad things about the japan companies and there ways.
but as we all see all over the net here other boards. torrents ect we all dl them like mad

[estebanf]

Yeah, they used some of our sources, mine and others as well. I don't care about it that much. They're making some bucks but it's not like they're selling at FYE, Tower Records or Virgin Megastore, so whatever...I thought it actually mattered a few years ago, now I really don't care...just my personal opinion though. I understand why people hate them, I was in the same state of mind a couple of years ago...people evolve and carry on with their lives.

yes, but selling its not the only ''bad'' thing about this. They are making silver cds sourced from ASF 56kbps streams, horribly lossy, like the Donington VR show, and these bootlegs will enter the trading comunity without problems at any tracker, because if you put ''silver cd'' or ''original cd > flac'' your torrent will be accepted everywhere but hiding the real source, which would be unknown for almost everyone.

of course this is only relevant inside the trading community and internet. I dont give a flying fuck about this and its absolutely irrelevant for my life. just giving my two cents about the ''japanese bootleg companies'' subject.

[timebomb]

we enjoy the collecting at all costs dude is that all that really matters in the end

[estebanf]

we enjoy the collecting at all costs dude is that all that really matters in the end

cool, but dont you always say that you hate mp3?

Well, a LOT of these bootlegs are made with mp3, sound like mp3, and if you analyze them... are mp3.

CDR > FLAC means nothing. You dont know a shit reading that. In the past, we used to buy silver bootlegs without even worrying if they were ''genuine'' o not, I mean, not lossy sourced: ''if this is a silver cd, its lossless. period''.

Now you cant trust bootleg companies anymore. You even cant trust trackers anymore. A lot of people bitch a lot saying that the mods at dime are very strict and all that stuff. But I think they should be even more strict, at least with lineages/sources/MD5/FFP, etc. I told you I have been fucked up with the ''Back To England'' silver cds. And the real lossless files DO exist.

But if people keep buying every shit they put out, they'll keep releasing shit after shit. That's sad, but true.

[timebomb]

you are right all the way i  hate mp3.
but i buy from japan not knowing nothing witch is bad
about the dime u are correct
but i am banned for the moment so the dime can fuck off but u are correct