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« on: February 18, 2004, 07:30:45 PM »

Hey,

Anyone have a definitive list to which songs Izzy Stradlin' wrote lyrics to for Guns N' Roses songs?  The following are well known:-

Pretty Tied Up
Bad Obsession
14 Years
Dust N' Bones
You Ain't The First
Double Talkin' Jive
Mr. Brownstone
Think About You
Patience
Move To The City
Used To Love Her

I've also thought the following were quite possibly his, at least in part:-

You Could Be Mine
Nightrain
You're Crazy

Any others?


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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2004, 07:36:14 PM »

The lyrics for "Nightrain" were written by Duff and Axl.

The lyrics for "You Could Be Mine" were indeed written by Izzy, about an ex-girlfriend of his.

The lyrics for "Reckless Life" were written by Axl and Izzy.

You're correct about all the other ones.


These AFD songs featured lyrics written or cowritten by Izzy...

Out Ta Get Me -
Lyrics : Rose, Stradlin'

Mr. Brownstone -
Lyrics : Stradlin'

Think About You -
Lyrics : Stradlin'

You're Crazy
Lyrics : Rose, Stradlin'

Anything Goes -
Lyrics : Stradlin', Rose

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2004, 06:41:38 AM »

Interesting.  Just though Nightrain might have been Iz's due to the subject content... getting wasted.  Also the phrasing is very similar to his style.  Just out of interest, where did you pick up this information?  Are there any other songs on Use Your Illusion that Izzy had any part in writing the lyrics to (Don't Cry, maybe)?

Also, do you have a list of who wrote the music to each of the songs on AFD?

I know the following:-

It's So Easy (McKagan/Arkeen; not sure which one wrote the music and which the lyrics)
Mr. Brownstone (Stradlin')
Think About You (Stradlin')
Sweet Child O' Mine (Slash/Stradlin'; lyrics: Rose)

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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2004, 09:59:55 AM »

the specialist in getting wasted would be duff since his pancreas exploded from overdrinking.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2004, 01:40:14 PM »

In terms of alcohol, back in the day, yes.  In terms of drugs generally would obviously be Steven.  Izzy wasn't too fair behind either of them back in the day.  Look at him in the Melbourne '88 video.  He's completely out of it during the Patience intro.

Nowadays there's only really Slash who finds himself under the influence of anything.  Still likes a drink and a smoke.  Duff smokes, but no drink or drugs.  Axl doesn't smoke or do drugs, but does drink.  Steven has given up heroin now, at least.  Would be good to here he was free of everything else too, but I can't say for certain.  Izzy, meanwhile, doesn't drink, smoke, do drugs or even caffine.  :-)

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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2004, 04:46:30 PM »

Duff quit smoking a while ago too. Although now he's always holding a cigar in the VR pics. He's just trying to still look cool lol
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2004, 06:23:02 PM »

Just out of interest, where did you pick up this information?  

The AFD writing credits came out of a 1988 issue of Metal Hammer, and the UYI credits I got from various interviews from the band members over the years.

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Are there any other songs on Use Your Illusion that Izzy had any part in writing the lyrics to (Don't Cry, maybe)?

Yes, Izzy wrote the lyrics to the original version of "Don't Cry" and Axl wrote the alternate version's lyrics.  I forgot about that one.

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only really Slash who finds himself under the influence of anything.  Still likes a drink and a smoke

According to a recent posting on a Slash site, he is trying to quit smoking.  There was a thread about that a few months ago.

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Also, do you have a list of who wrote the music to each of the songs on AFD?

Sure do.  The below credits are the initial AFD writing credits.  As we all know, in the final album credits, Steven was given writing credit for his drumming, and for his arrangement contributions, as was the rest of the band on each song.


Welcome to the Jungle -
Music : Slash, Rose
Lyrics : Rose

It's So Easy -
Music : McKagan, Arkeen
Lyrics : McKagan, Arkeen

Nightrain -
Music : Stradlin', McKagan, Rose, Slash
Lyrics : McKagan, Rose

Out Ta Get Me -
Music : Slash, Rose, Stradlin'
Lyrics : Rose, Stradlin'

Mr. Brownstone -
Music : Stradlin', Slash
Lyrics : Stradlin'

Paradise City -
Music : McKagan, Slash, Rose, Stradlin'
Lyrics : Rose, McKagan

My Michelle -
Music : Rose, Stradlin'
Lyrics : Rose

Think About You -
Music : Stradlin'
Lyrics : Stradlin'

Sweet Child O' Mine -
Music : Rose, Slash, Stradlin'
Lyrics : Rose

You're Crazy -
Music : Slash, Stradlin', Rose
Lyrics : Rose, Stradlin'

Anything Goes -
Music : Stradlin', Rose, Chris Webber
Lyrics : Stradlin', Rose

Rocket Queen -
Music : Rose, Slash, Stradlin'
Lyrics : Rose
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2004, 06:34:11 AM »

Yes, Izzy wrote the lyrics to the original version of "Don't Cry" and Axl wrote the alternate version's lyrics.  I forgot about that one.

Axl's version of the lyrics just didn't compliment the song as well as Izzy's did I don't think. Izzy's seemed to tell a story...
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2004, 09:24:43 AM »

Axl's version of the lyrics just didn't compliment the song as well as Izzy's did I don't think. Izzy's seemed to tell a story...

I concur.  I don't like the alternate version of "Don't Cry" and that's one of the prime reasons.
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2004, 10:22:38 AM »

With regard to those credits for the songwriting on Appetite For Destruction, are the composer's listed in any particular order (i.e. order of contribution)?

Do you have a complete list of who wrote the lyrics to each track on Use Your Illusion?


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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2004, 10:31:43 AM »

Axl's version of the lyrics just didn't compliment the song as well as Izzy's did I don't think. Izzy's seemed to tell a story...

I concur.  I don't like the alternate version of "Don't Cry" and that's one of the prime reasons.

If Izzy wrote Don't cry and Axl wrote Don't cry (alt lyrics) how come the UYI booklets give writing credits to both of them on both versions, i'm confused
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2004, 07:06:05 PM »

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If Izzy wrote Don't cry and Axl wrote Don't cry (alt lyrics) how come the UYI booklets give writing credits to both of them on both versions, i'm confused


Don?t really know.

But rememer there?s not that much songs writen by izzy on UYI 1 and 2.There is a good bunch but izzy allways said that he didn?t feel much  identified with some songs  from that 2 albums.
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2004, 10:00:43 PM »

If Izzy wrote Don't cry and Axl wrote Don't cry (alt lyrics) how come the UYI booklets give writing credits to both of them on both versions, i'm confused

Because Axl composed the vocal melody, so he gets credit for both version, and Izzy composed the chords, so he gets credit on both versions.  The writing credits are for the music also, not just the lyrics.
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2004, 07:47:16 AM »

What about on You Could Be Mine?  That is another Stradlin'/Rose composition that Izzy wrote the lyrics to.  What was Axl's contribution.  Was he involved in writing the music, the melody or did he just help Izzy out a little.  I've always thought Axl may have written the last verse.


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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2004, 05:07:08 PM »

Duff quit smoking a while ago too. Although now he's always holding a cigar in the VR pics. He's just trying to still look cool lol

sure?
cuz i read an interview where he said that his only vice now was Cuban cigars...
wonder if he drink non-alcoholic beer now just to be cool and drink atleast beer....

THE KING OF LIGHT BEER! DUFF ROSE MCKAGAN! yes
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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2004, 06:17:03 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2004, 06:19:25 PM »

What about on You Could Be Mine?  That is another Stradlin'/Rose composition that Izzy wrote the lyrics to.  What was Axl's contribution.  Was he involved in writing the music, the melody or did he just help Izzy out a little.  I've always thought Axl may have written the last verse.

It's been awhile, but I'm sure that I read that Izzy wrote the lyrics, I assume that meant all of them.  He wrote them about an ex-girlfriend of his.

I'm sure Axl composed the vocal melody, he's good with those, as most singers are.  And Izzy wrote the chords, no doubt.
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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2004, 05:05:47 AM »

What about on You Could Be Mine?  That is another Stradlin'/Rose composition that Izzy wrote the lyrics to.  What was Axl's contribution.  Was he involved in writing the music, the melody or did he just help Izzy out a little.  I've always thought Axl may have written the last verse.

It's been awhile, but I'm sure that I read that Izzy wrote the lyrics, I assume that meant all of them.  He wrote them about an ex-girlfriend of his.

I'm sure Axl composed the vocal melody, he's good with those, as most singers are.  And Izzy wrote the chords, no doubt.

I think the lyrics to the original version is more of a 50/50 thing. Here's some quotes taken from GnRinfo.tk:

Axl: It was the first song written for Guns N' Roses. Actually we weren't Guns N' Roses yet, but we were starting to become a reality, and Izzy and I wrote a song and we decided we needed to get back together

Axl: It was [about] a girl that Izzy had gone out with, and I was really attracted to her, and they split up, and we wrote the song.

Axl: I was sitting outside the Roxy, and you know, I was like really in love with this person, and she was realising this wasn't going to work, she was doing her things, she was telling me goodbye, and I like sat down, and just started crying, and she was telling me 'don't cry'. Next night we got together and wrote the song in 5 minutes. He'd been through some things with her, himself.


And concerning Slash and his involvement on Rocket Queen, where is that from? I have quotes about RQ, but all points in the direction that it's all Axl/Izzy. And same with Sweet Child. Slash wrote the riff at the start, but I think Izzy did the rest of the music (possibly with Axl)
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