Stop the Finck bashing

[badintentions]

I know this has been going on for a while now, but it seems to have gotten worse since the supposed quitting of buckethead. Robin Finck is not a bad guitarist. not only is he not bad, he is exceptionally good. it makes me sick to see 50% of the fans of the new band say negative things about him. how can people say that he butcher's slash's solos? just because he doesn't play them exactly how slash does, doesn't mean he can't. he uses his own interpretation of the songs. i love how people will bash the new gnr as being a cover band, but then get pissed about the new members adding their own things. robin finck is the most valuable member of the new guns n' roses.

[privatereserve]

Yeah!!!  If you are going to bash Finck get OUT.  Try bashing me you haters.

[Captain P?l]

i agree!! robin rules poor poor guy.

and about him beeing the most important member, maybe, but i think tommy is really important too! and axl is good friends with tommy too...

EDIT: oh, and bashing people you dont even remotley know... that is actualy not just sad, its sick....

[privatereserve]

By the way I was at all the Vegas shows and some more.  I bet more than half of you people bashing him haven't seen or been to one of their shows.  So Step Off on Finck.

[SLCPUNK]

haha. Right, unless you can get up there and give 'em hell (on the guitar). Then shut your cake hole about the guy.

[badapple81]

i love how people will bash the new gnr as being a cover band, but then get pissed about the new members adding their own things.

Good point.

[Captain P?l]

just wana add something. alot of people seem to hate him'cuz he is "goth".... its not worse beeing goth than what buckethead is...  finck look way cooler than buckethead.  

[PeterCoffin]

I'm on Finck's side. Great player, hate his website though.

[Malcolm]

Hey i hope not to affend anyone....im a huge fan of the new band i think finks awsome..i just dont personally think he would bea good lead guitar player...im sure eh could do it but i rather see someone like brian or traci or ace or toni as there lead guitar player with robin playin some of the solos

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

I just wanted to add to the Finck love.
 

At the Hard Rock gigs I was front and center and when Robin came center to solo... I'll never forget looking up into his face when he played... He touched my heart... tears literally came to my eyes.  He is a beautiful and intense artist and performer.  
Robin is fuckin' cool!  
I really   Robin.

He embraced the fans at Rio with his performance of Sossego and again when he crowd surfed at the Joint.

[AxlsMainMan]

just wana add something. alot of people seem to hate him'cuz he is "goth".... its not worse beeing goth than what buckethead is...  finck look way cooler than buckethead.  

Buckethead wasn't cool at all.. very talented but not cool

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

I'm on Finck's side. Great player, hate his website though.

Robin's website is cool!
Its so HIM.
I love what hes shared of himself with us there.

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

Buckethead wasn't cool at all.. very talented but not cool

I suppose 'cool' like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Personally, I dont 'typecast' what cool is.

[Captain P?l]

I'm on Finck's side. Great player, hate his website though.

Robin's website is cool!
Its so HIM.
I love what hes shared of himself with us there.

that website is the weirdest site ever... i love it.. weird thigs are cool... did he design it and shit and running it himself or just some payed webmaster?

[PeterCoffin]

I'm on Finck's side. Great player, hate his website though.

Robin's website is cool!
Its so HIM.
I love what hes shared of himself with us there.

See, I'm not a genius. I can run computer stuff, I can edit the hell out of any media you give me. But if you give me a bunch of stuff that either isn't labelled or doesn't make much sense, almost as if it is out of context, I just can't get ahold of it. Robin Finck's website is like that to me.

I should have said "I don't understand his website." It confuses the living crap out of me.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Here is what i have to say about robin.
HE is a great guitar player, i dont get why people bash him.
Yes you might not  like how he plays hte old gnr songs but it doesnt mean he wont nail the new songs that he wrote.
Listen to him on othe nin live album, the guy is amazing.

[HoldenCaulfield]

Finck is the man. It makes me sick to see all the bashing...

[Falcon]

No Finck bashing here..

I've been a fan of his for years and have always found him to be the most intriguing new member in Axl's band.

Make no mistake, the guy can flat out play as well.

[kockstar99]

Lets all Remeber that Robin was the original guitarist that Axl wanted to replace Slash with... so hes gotta be pretty god damn good..

[killingvector]

"Buckethead wasn't cool at all.. very talented but not cool"

I don't think you got the character of buckethead then. Because that statement in itself is the reason why he is what he is.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Lets all Remeber that Robin was the original guitarist that Axl wanted to replace Slash with... so hes gotta be pretty god damn good..

He is very damn good.
Ask trent.

[killingvector]

but bucket was better  

[Eazy E]

Well I'll be the first to break up this love-fest I guess.

He looks fuckin' stupid.  The goth thing does NOT look good in Guns N' Roses.  What am I saying, it NEVER looks good.

He fucks up a lot.  I'm not talking about him "playing Slash's solos differently".  He hits the wrong notes OFTEN and at the worst possible times.  He's probably more focused on his little leg dances than his guitar playing.

Whatever that shit is he plays before Sweet Child and Paradise City is noise pollution.  If that's what a solo on CD sounds like, I hope Axl never releases it.


The only cool thing Robin has done is play Sossego for Rio.

[kockstar99]

Well I'll be the first to break up this love-fest I guess.

He looks fuckin' stupid.  The goth thing does NOT look good in Guns N' Roses.  What am I saying, it NEVER looks good.

He fucks up a lot.  I'm not talking about him "playing Slash's solos differently".  He hits the wrong notes OFTEN and at the worst possible times.  He's probably more focused on his little leg dances than his guitar playing.

Whatever that shit is he plays before Sweet Child and Paradise City is noise pollution.  If that's what a solo on CD sounds like, I hope Axl never releases it.


The only cool thing Robin has done is play Sossego for Rio.

The Sossego was awsome...but i do agree with you on his solos.... those are shit....does anyone else fast forward them on thier Bootleg CD's and DVD's??

but he still is a damn good guitar player....

[grog mug]

Finck is a great guy man.  I love Robin one of the best members of GN'R EVER!  I was at the 29th show in Vegas right in front of him he'll party with you during the songs, reach out and give you a five.  He's great and knows what he's doing when it comes to GN'R songs old and new!

[twitcher]

please someone show me a photo of robin being goth in the last 5 years. Because all these people keep saying he's goth but I've never seen it.   white satin aint goth. VMA wasn't goth. none of my bootlegs are goth. if you are gonna critisize his style the at least be accurate. (I don't think he's ever been goth but some may think the early NIN was, but I'll leave that for a NIN discussion board.)

Second, his solos are great, and all of what i've seen there aren't too many if any wrong notes. again will someone point to a show where i can see/hear this as my bootlegs sound great - maybe i'm just lucky so far. And I actually prefer his solos over the originals and prefer to play bootlegs rather than the originals now.

Finally his solo before Sweet Child may not fit in with GnR well, and I didn't really like it when i heard it first. But taken out of the context of the concert it is a beautiful piece of music and really cool to play when just sitting by myself looking out of the window  

[Guns N Roses]

I do not care for how finck plays the old songs I think he butches them(I did enjoy Buckets work and Iam even a Slash fan ).  But everones opinion is different.  I will not judge him fully till I have heard CD.  My prejudge of him is the guitar work just seem weak in songs like Madagascar,The Blues,CD but yet what I have heard it just from soundboards and bootlegs.

One other thing this is not a shot at anybody but when people tell people to go check out NIN to see how Finck plays I dont understand why.  Iam not here to hear NIN Iam here to hear GNR.  Anyway  does Robin even play on studio NIN albums?  I thought he was a live musician only?

[Guns N Roses]

The only solo that I think Finck nails right on is SCOM. IMO

[glass]

finck fucking sucks. what a horrible player. I actually can't believe how bad he is. Can you imagine that fucker taking the nightrain outro now? jesus christ, not a good thought. oh yeah, the majority of you people are sad axl ass kissers.

[matt88]

Finck sucks

[Bahad]

The only solo that I think Finck nails right on is SCOM. IMO

He screws the intro.Wrong notes,timing faults. But overall I like him. He plays more emotionally and he's got a different style. It got me time to use to his style but he plays like noone else.

[kockstar99]

Finally his solo before Sweet Child may not fit in with GnR well, and I didn't really like it when i heard it first. But taken out of the context of the concert it is a beautiful piece of music and really cool to play when just sitting by myself looking out of the window  

That describes it perfect... I wish I had posted that..


He is a bad ass guitar player...

[kockstar99]

Can you imagine that fucker taking the nightrain outro now? jesus christ, not a good thought.

NOBODY on this planet can play that outro like Buckethead can ....bottom line...

oh yeah, the majority of you people are sad axl ass kissers.

Thanks Dude!!!

[Koskenkorvasieni]

I'm not here to bash Finck, I'm just here to give constructive criticism and in my honest opinion as a longtime GNR fan, Finck completely raped the guitar solos  on November Rain at RIR3. I haven't heard any bootleg stuff since RIR3 so I don't know if he's improved later, but at least at RIR 3 h?s guitar work was very weak. The only cool thing he played was Sossego and the solo on Patience..

[BucketRose]

Why should anyone refrain from bashing the guy?  Aren't people entitled to opinions around here?  Finck is just another "hired gun" with a contract from Axl...he's no more a "member" of GnR than Buckethead was.  If it was announced today that Finck left the band, you guys would turn your back on him and never again give him and his playing a moment's consideration.  I get so tired of all this mock-adoration that some of you shed on the hired guns...as soon as they quit or get fired, they go back to being invisible to you guys.  

I think its time to quit pretending that what's left of GnR is actually a "band."  I agree with what someone else said...things look worse for GnR right now than they've ever looked in the past.  Things look even worse for ever hearing CD.

[Captain P?l]

Finck sucks

you valuable input is put into consideration...

[C0ma]

Fink is a good guitar player, Fink is a very good guitar player, but lay off the word great. Everyone in here throws that word around way too much.

Also just because some one is a 'great' guitar player, that doesn't mean they fit into every situation. For example, Tom Morrello is an unbelievable guitar player (in alot of people's eyes) I tend to agree that he is a great player, but I would not want to hear him in Guns, his playing style doesn't suit this band. The other issue is tone (which is my biggest problem with Robin), his sound is far to 'dirty' or 'distorted'. I understand most of you hate the constant Slash comparisons, but Slashs' tone was as important to this band as Axl's voice. He used very little in the way of effects, the only distortion he gets is from his amp, I just feel that Robin's over distorted sound ruins alot of songs.

[badintentions]

finck fucking sucks. what a horrible player. I actually can't believe how bad he is. Can you imagine that fucker taking the nightrain outro now? jesus christ, not a good thought. oh yeah, the majority of you people are sad axl ass kissers.

i can understand not liking how he plays, he plays in a very original style that is not for everyone, but to say he sucks is just ignorant. anybody that plays guitar or knows about guitar would tell you that he is phenomenal. not everybody will tell you that they like what he plays but the ability is there. to say he "sucks" is just ignorant and incorrect. as far as kissing axl's ass, i hardly see how praising robin is kissing axl's ass.


as far as the poster that said we would forget about robin after he left gnr. i can say that won't be the case with me, i am a fan of his work (the live cd) with nin and would purchase pretty much any product that he put out. not so much the case with the rest of the new gunners. not that i don't love the new band.

[Izzy]

I make no secret of the fact i think Robin Finck is a very average musician. As a support player there isn't a problem, but there is no way he can provide what Slash and Buckethead gave GNR....the band suddenly looks very medicore on guitar.

[slash2001]

I agree, stop bashing Finck, do some you guys really think you could do better than this guy? personally i prefer the fact the new guys dont play the old songs exact same way as the old band cause then it really would seem like a cover band,and sayin he hits wrong notes alot etc, u reckon Slash never hit a bad note?. Finck obviously aint as good a guitarist as buckethead but he doesnt deserve all the bashing from us FANS.besides,his solo in the blues is better than anything Buckethead has put down in any of the new songs we've heard.I think the two guitarists we are left with can more than handle the job at hand, Fortus is also an under-rated guitar player aswell, he can play fast and has a cool vibe about him.

[St.heathen]

Ok i'd be the first to say he can't play SCOM from what i have heard, it's just not right.

BUT i have been a fan of  his since The Downward Spiral,  now i would say any guitarist who has heard some of the guitar work on that album would have to have respect for Finck, especially on a track like Mr Self destruct that is a beast of a guitar riff.

And alot of people who are put off by the look.  It's easy to forget how fucking scared people were of GN'R when they first came on the scene.  They were n't "conventional" to some people.  Some wouldn't see the difference between GN'R and Finck.  If you want you'r rock n'roll all safe and nicely dressed to fit a scene then ...that's not rock n' roll.  

[Booker Floyd]

BUT i have been a fan of  his since The Downward Spiral,  now i would say any guitarist who has heard some of the guitar work on that album would have to have respect for Finck, especially on a track like Mr Self destruct that is a beast of a guitar riff.

Really?  Thats interesting since he didnt play on The Downward Spiral.  And its a safe bet that you should thank Mr. Reznor for that riff, and the rest of the album.

[PeterCoffin]

I was thinking that as well, didn't he join NIN in 96? Spiral is 94, if I am not mistaken.

[ClintroN]

im a guitarist and im tellin' you, Fink pulls off the SCOM solo not perfect but fucking million times better. He added in heaps more shit in it and it blew me away. Sure he might hit the wrong chord now n' then like some of you pointed out, but he's only fuckin' human guys. Slash fucked up from time to time, so will the next legendary guitarist. Buckethead never fucks up, 'cause he doesnt fuckin' move. Fink to me has the perfect look for GNR IMO, just because he doesnt wear flanalet shirts n' bandanas doesnt mean he doesnt fit. I like his image.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

First off Finck never played on a NIN album.
Trent plays EVERYTHING.
Finck just played on the ive album and live onthe tours.

Now about finck and scom.
Anyone who says finck cant play it, is just flat out lying.
Listen tothe intro, he plays it perfect.

[Captain P?l]

you go dave!!
and listen to the Sossego song from RIR3! it is PERFECT! very very good!

[Nicos]

I know this has been going on for a while now, but it seems to have gotten worse since the supposed quitting of buckethead. Robin Finck is not a bad guitarist. not only is he not bad, he is exceptionally good. it makes me sick to see 50% of the fans of the new band say negative things about him. how can people say that he butcher's slash's solos? just because he doesn't play them exactly how slash does, doesn't mean he can't. he uses his own interpretation of the songs. i love how people will bash the new gnr as being a cover band, but then get pissed about the new members adding their own things. robin finck is the most valuable member of the new guns n' roses.

I fully agree!!!

And anyone who thinks Robin is a bad player, worse than Slash or whatever, doesn't know anything about music.

And take that one to your fuckin' heart!

N ! 3 |(

[Booker Floyd]

First off Finck never played on a NIN album.
Trent plays EVERYTHING.
Finck just played on the ive album and live onthe tours.

Actually, guitars on The Downward Spiral are credited to Adrian Belew and Danny Lohner.  Same with The Fragile I think.

And Finck, I believe, is credited on the"Closer To God" and "Further Down The Spiral" EPs, but Im not sure to what extent his role was on either.

Now about finck and scom.
Anyone who says finck cant play it, is just flat out lying.
Listen tothe intro, he plays it perfect.

None of the ones Ive heard have been perfect.  Then again, I havent head all of them, but the point is he does mess it up.

[Fuckin' Gunner]

you go dave!!
and listen to the Sossego song from RIR3! it is PERFECT! very very good!

Yeah Sossego was just perfect... I mean, was really funny he speaking portuguese, but the crowd really liked and he showed how charismatic he can be...

And the brazilian (original) version of Sossego is not a guitar song... so, he just created that riffs.