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« on: March 19, 2004, 09:15:25 PM »

Edit: This person turned out to be a hoax. /jarmo


I am sorry, i think i need to show them, i don't like how they talk about it all.

From someone named" Sumgi" up to the "? ? ? "at the end. Written a little while ago for us on www.newgnr.com.


I have been watching several of the GNR fan sites for several months now. I have been very aprehensive about leaving any responses, but now I feel is the time. I ask that you simply hear me out & take what I say to heart because it comes from within. Please do not ask me any questions since I will not be able to reply any time soon. It is in my best interest not to draw much attention to my self. That is why I am posting a message & not opening a new topic. Please accept my apologee.
You can say I have been a personal friend of Axl-from the very beginning. I know Axl as well as anyone. Despite what you may believe-AXL KNOWS HOW TO USE THE INTERNET! Please understand that the last 8 years have been some of the hardest that Axl has ever been through. You can say that he has been suffering from a "sad sickness". Not just stemming from the break up of life-long friendships, the band being dissolved into obscurity & the self-doubt & unimaginable pain that Axl has been experiencing in his heart. Axl feels very alone, scared & unsure of his role in history. Axl does not feel he deserves to be loved so he has some issues with self-respect. All he ever wanted was to have a nice "middle-class" home, a honest job & a true love. Instead he got catapulted into a "megolamania" he never quite felt part of. Does Axl realise he has many fans that need & want his music NOW? Yes he does, & he does care, he REALLY REALLY does. It brings tears to his eyes (literally) the fact that he knows he has let so many down. But Axl has never been a person who can express himself in a person-to-person context-that is why he uses his poetry to ellicit responses from people. He feels passionate about his music-the only thing he really honestly loves in this world. But he feels the burden of the world resting on his sholders. He does not know how to deal-that is it. He knows you guys & gals are out there-he is listening. Despite what you may think Axl is a very sensative & easily broken man. He lives each day with mind-numbing anxiety, depression, insomnia & goes into pschotic states every now & then. He knows the frustration you are all feeling-AND HE IS REALLY REALLY SORRY that it is bringing people stress. He just wants to make great music-music he is proud of. Please understand that this album has been in the recording process for over five years. Two years worth of "engineered music" has been completely scrapped due to it's funky industrial sound. The album that WILL BE RELEASED THIS YEAR BEFORE THE END OF SUMMER-will play hommage to Appetite & will silence all non-believers. Axl decided to back away from the "techno" aspects & instill a "classic rock groove". The completed songlist was tunred in a couple of months ago & is in the process of being assembled. (keep in mind Axl & crew recorded nearly three albums worth of new material). So it won't be long now-I promise you! In April there will be an OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE that will be self-explanatory. I hope you can wait a bit longer. Axl cares & loves all of you. He really wants to know you guys care & it hurts him that people are mistaking his "sickening level of anxiety" for him being an asshole who wants to piss people off. That is just not the case. Axl has felt like a god & he has felt like a begger & the hardest part was determining which one he was going to be for that day-what "role" was he going to play-what dillusion he was going to summon. Please look at your own lives-think about the times you felt self-doubt & self-pitty, or maybe you are experiencing this on a day-to-day like Axl, the point is, it is very hard for him to live in YOUR WORLD. Axl is not out having fun & getting laid with hot stippers as you all may think. He has been doing a good deal of soul searching & he is finding it increasingly hard to live in his skin. Those of you who know the pain know it's real- & those who don't can try to feel-please feel bad for Axl not angry. He meant no harm. He did not want to do anyone wrong. Thank you for listening. Axl would like to thank everyone who has supported him over the years over the tears & who continue to look to his words for answers. Axl has no answers-only questions like all of you do. But he too is looking for answers he will never get-and it drives him crazy. He cannot understand how life is so unfair to so many-he is truly hurt by this. He has tried being a good person & living a "good" life. But the deamons are allways within, always a step behind, always on my mind...Thanks for the memories.

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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2004, 09:26:19 PM »

if all axl wanted was a middle class house and a gecent job, i want a fat guy i can fuck before breakfast....

axl WANTS to be a rock star! well, wanted anyway.... he also said that he wanted illdusions to be bigger than AFD, so if that doesnt mean he wanna be a rock star, i dont know

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2004, 09:43:06 PM »

I am sorry, i think i need to show them, i don't like how they talk about it all.

From someone named" Sumqi" up to the "? ? ? "at the end. Written a little while ago for us on www.newgnr.com.


I have been watching several of the GNR fan sites for several months now. I have been very aprehensive about leaving any responses, but now I feel is the time. I ask that you simply hear me out & take what I say to heart because it comes from within. Please do not ask me any questions since I will not be able to reply any time soon. It is in my best interest not to draw much attention to my self. That is why I am posting a message & not opening a new topic. Please accept my apologee.
You can say I have been a personal friend of Axl-from the very beginning. I know Axl as well as anyone. Despite what you may believe-AXL KNOWS HOW TO USE THE INTERNET! Please understand that the last 8 years have been some of the hardest that Axl has ever been through. You can say that he has been suffering from a "sad sickness". Not just stemming from the break up of life-long friendships, the band being dissolved into obscurity & the self-doubt & unimaginable pain that Axl has been experiencing in his heart. Axl feels very alone, scared & unsure of his role in history. Axl does not feel he deserves to be loved so he has some issues with self-respect. All he ever wanted was to have a nice "middle-class" home, a honest job & a true love. Instead he got catapulted into a "megolamania" he never quite felt part of. Does Axl realise he has many fans that need & want his music NOW? Yes he does, & he does care, he REALLY REALLY does. It brings tears to his eyes (literally) the fact that he knows he has let so many down. But Axl has never been a person who can express himself in a person-to-person context-that is why he uses his poetry to ellicit responses from people. He feels passionate about his music-the only thing he really honestly loves in this world. But he feels the burden of the world resting on his sholders. He does not know how to deal-that is it. He knows you guys & gals are out there-he is listening. Despite what you may think Axl is a very sensative & easily broken man. He lives each day with mind-numbing anxiety, depression, insomnia & goes into pschotic states every now & then. He knows the frustration you are all feeling-AND HE IS REALLY REALLY SORRY that it is bringing people stress. He just wants to make great music-music he is proud of. Please understand that this album has been in the recording process for over five years. Two years worth of "engineered music" has been completely scrapped due to it's funky industrial sound. The album that WILL BE RELEASED THIS YEAR BEFORE THE END OF SUMMER-will play hommage to Appetite & will silence all non-believers. Axl decided to back away from the "techno" aspects & instill a "classic rock groove". The completed songlist was tunred in a couple of months ago & is in the process of being assembled. (keep in mind Axl & crew recorded nearly three albums worth of new material). So it won't be long now-I promise you! In April there will be an OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE that will be self-explanatory. I hope you can wait a bit longer. Axl cares & loves all of you. He really wants to know you guys care & it hurts him that people are mistaking his "sickening level of anxiety" for him being an asshole who wants to piss people off. That is just not the case. Axl has felt like a god & he has felt like a begger & the hardest part was determining which one he was going to be for that day-what "role" was he going to play-what dillusion he was going to summon. Please look at your own lives-think about the times you felt self-doubt & self-pitty, or maybe you are experiencing this on a day-to-day like Axl, the point is, it is very hard for him to live in YOUR WORLD. Axl is not out having fun & getting laid with hot stippers as you all may think. He has been doing a good deal of soul searching & he is finding it increasingly hard to live in his skin. Those of you who know the pain know it's real- & those who don't can try to feel-please feel bad for Axl not angry. He meant no harm. He did not want to do anyone wrong. Thank you for listening. Axl would like to thank everyone who has supported him over the years over the tears & who continue to look to his words for answers. Axl has no answers-only questions like all of you do. But he too is looking for answers he will never get-and it drives him crazy. He cannot understand how life is so unfair to so many-he is truly hurt by this. He has tried being a good person & living a "good" life. But the deamons are allways within, always a step behind, always on my mind...Thanks for the memories.

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Thanks for posting that Jessica.   Who is sumqi?
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2004, 09:45:28 PM »

SumGi ( my error) is our mystery guest.

Someone you can all respect for finally giving us news.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2004, 09:45:49 PM »

Nice one dude.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2004, 09:54:10 PM »

SumGi ( my error) is our mystery guest.

Someone you can all respect for finally giving us news.

What "news"? Its not from Axl. There is no proof. Anyone can type that and make it up. Its obviously a fan (more likely in a world we live in) that has honest sympathy for Axl. If not then that's nice. But what proof is there that its someone close to Axl?
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2004, 10:00:20 PM »

It was written by paul tobais.  Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2004, 10:02:01 PM »

SumGi ( my error) is our mystery guest.

Someone you can all respect for finally giving us news.

What "news"? Its not from Axl. There is no proof. Anyone can type that and make it up. Its obviously a fan (more likely in a world we live in) that has honest sympathy for Axl. If not then that's nice. But what proof is there that its someone close to Axl?

You're right, there is no valid proof. But there is no reason to doubt either.

As this person says, there should be an official announcement next month.
Dizzy said that the album was finished.

So if there is an official word by then, you'll know that person was legit, simple as this.
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2004, 10:02:12 PM »

hey Jessica when was this posted?
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2004, 10:03:44 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2004, 10:09:35 PM »

It could be Beta, Paul or Axl. Then again it could be Tom, Dick or Harry. Either way Jess you ignored this:

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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2004, 10:10:14 PM »

You're right, there is no valid proof. But there is no reason to doubt either.

I could give multiple examples of cases when people have posted "inside" info and it turned out be lies.

Without any proof, I think there are reaons to doubt posts like that.



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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2004, 10:11:22 PM »

thanks jessica ok
I guess we will find out in April if its true what he says, but ether way we have known Axl to be a troubled soul. and I can not imagine it has been easy for him to lose such old friends like slash and the rest of the gang.  That kind of thing takes its toll on you.  I just wonder who this person post is, this SumGi.
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2004, 10:11:59 PM »

cool read...but we will have to wait and see. Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2004, 10:13:02 PM »

smells like shit to me....

we will see if we get a press release in April... but even I could guess that...since its only a month before Rio... and obviously not comming out this month....

anyone can write that shit.... you should PM them and ask them to fucking prove it other wise its more shit....
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2004, 10:13:25 PM »

the album IS done, though that relates hardly to whether or not we will actually ever be able to hear it.
I don't believe this story, the poster who claims to know Axl. Most of us here are familiar with Axl's emotional/psychological history, and while what the poster mentioned about his anxiety and depression is not entirely inaccurate, the bits about how much his mental state has deteriorated, i think, is bullshit.
If Axl was truly fucked up now, i highly doubt he would have the wherewithall to release the album. This opinion comes from knowing a bit about psychology as well as having friends/family members who have suffered differing degrees of depression/anxiety/bi-polar disorder and all of its manifestations.
If he truly is worse off now than he has been, were not going to get anything. We may not get anything but i don't think its because Axl is too fucked up to deal with the world.
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2004, 10:15:55 PM »

It's nice to think that the person was legit.

And if it was legit or not, I feel that Axl probably falls into that description somewhat.

Although I'm sure Mysteron will come along and say "Nope, no announcement planned for April."  hihi

We'll know in April.
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2004, 10:16:25 PM »

Rather simple - have the mods trace the IP of the poster.  If its in / around Los Angeles, I'd say it gets a bit more credibility..  If it originates in, for instance, Finland - then there might be some issues Wink

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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2004, 10:19:00 PM »

Rather simple - have the mods trace the IP of the poster.  If its in / around Los Angeles, I'd say it gets a bit more credibility..  If it originates in, for instance, Finland - then there might be some issues Wink

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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2004, 10:20:26 PM »

just out of curiousity, has anyone read Del James's shit? because if you are smart enough, you can detect patterns of speech, how someone writes... i've never read anything from him before, but...

i still don't believe it. i may have if the person didn't mention when the album was coming. lost credibility with me right there.
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