Geffen/interscope/Axl: Chinese Democracy, 20 million copies+

[kockstar99]

There should be some sort of stupid meter attached to every rocktar thread, just so we can prepare ourselves for the level of stupidity in his posts, and threads before we enter. In addition, if the rateing is really high, say Ryan Seacrest stupid, then we could probably just ignore that thread.....

Just throwing ideas out there people...

hahaha what would you rate this one??

I would say this one have a rather high rating on the stupid meter...

[Ignatius]

Ooh la la.

 

On topic, your logic doesn't make sense. So you are saying good music & good promotion translates into huge sales?? Wish it was that easy....

First things first...Guns need to release a fucking album.

[rocktar81]

There should be some sort of stupid meter attached to every rocktar thread, just so we can prepare ourselves for the level of stupidity in his posts, and threads before we enter. In addition, if the rateing is really high, say Ryan Seacrest stupid, then we could probably just ignore that thread.....

Just throwing ideas out there people...
 
 

hahaha what would you rate this one??

I would say this one have a rather high rating on the stupid meter...  
 
 

Where is the problem with you? I just wanted to say that YES it's possible for "chinese democracy" to have big sales and to be very successfull. now where is the problem? tell me

[matt88]

20 million copies.....thats a bold prediction, if it comes out in the nxt 2 years then i'd give it 12-15 million copies at the most

[rocktar81]

as I said, just look at Norah Jones...it prooves that good music sells well.
well, not 20 million copies the first year, but after 2, 3 or 4 years I think it's possible. Look: 3 or 4 big singles of the album with great video clips on MTV and a big tour and that would be ok.
20 milion worlwide after 3 or 4 years? I think it is possible. In 1998/1999, "Americana" of The Offspring sold 14 million copies worldwide. Just one huge Hit "pretty fly for a white guy", and 2 other pretty big ones, not huge, but big. a tour and that was ok. AND LOOK AT Evanescence, 10 million worldwide after 1 year and a half. Come on, it's possible.

Think about all that...that's not as impossible as you would think. OK FORGET 20 MILLION if it's too much, 15 million copies worldwide don't you really think it could happen?

[matt88]

Still "AMERICANA" was a great album.......If GN'R was to sell 20 million copies it would have to be a VERY good album......the more axl waits around the more tired fans are gonna get, if he gets the cd out within 18 months and has a good album a tour etc 20 million is possible......But it would all come down to the quality of music

[Buritoking]

Where is the problem with you? I just wanted to say that YES it's possible for "chinese democracy" to have big sales and to be very successfull. now where is the problem? tell me

Of course anything is possible, it's possible this album may never come out, it's possible it could be the highest selling album of all time, it's possible axl may just get on the roof of the universal building and throw copies off of it to people......

It's also very possible that what I said was regarding all your threads, and not just the stupidity of this one in general...

Infact that last one, it's very possible, like norah jones 20 millions copies possible...

[rocktar81]

"Chinese Democracy" will be a good, even a great album, I'm sure about that. Look at "the blues" and "madagascar", they could be huge Hits! Studio versions will probably be  twice or 3 times better than any bootlegs we have ever heard yet.

[rocktar81]

It's also very possible that what I said was regarding all your threads, and not just the stupidity of this one in general...

No I don't think it's a stupid post at all. Sales figures is one of the most important thing when you release a record. It's important to talk about that. I don't see where the problem is.

[matt88]

"Chinese Democracy" will be a good, even a great album, I'm sure about that. Look at "the blues" and "madagascar", they could be huge Hits! Studio versions will probably be  twice or 3 times better than any bootlegs we have ever heard yet.

A few hits couldn't make 20 million cd's, if most of the album's content is marketed then yes i'll agree

[V]

1) Norah Jones-"come away with me"- released in march 2002 has sold 18 million copies yet. Few promotion, no MTV video clip, nothing. Just good music. Guns n' Roses -"chinese democracy"- will have much more promotion...

2) Evanescence have sold 10 million copies of their first album yet. Guns n' Roses has a much more potencial of impact than evanescence in the music business, mainly because of the legendary NAME...

Norah Jones has had good music... but few promotion.
Evanescence have had big promotion... but average music.
--> Guns n' Roses "Chinese Democracy" will have good music and big promotion. This is the perfect cocktail for a huge success. What do you think?

Hmmm.. Norah Jones has had a HUGE promotion with 'Come Away with Me' but it was a different promotion than usual. But yes, a lot of money was spent. And it was promoted to death.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2095253

[kupirock]

There are few folks around who are really chomping at the bit for an album from an 80s-era hair band.

There are still few folks who think that GNR is/was hair band

[Hung Well]

as I said, just look at Norah Jones...it prooves that good music sells well.
well, not 20 million copies the first year, but after 2, 3 or 4 years I think it's possible. Look: 3 or 4 big singles of the album with great video clips on MTV and a big tour and that would be ok.
20 milion worlwide after 3 or 4 years? I think it is possible. In 1998/1999, "Americana" of The Offspring sold 14 million copies worldwide. Just one huge Hit "pretty fly for a white guy", and 2 other pretty big ones, not huge, but big. a tour and that was ok. AND LOOK AT Evanescence, 10 million worldwide after 1 year and a half. Come on, it's possible.

Where are you getting these worldwide sales numbers?  From everything I understand, worldwide sales are nearly impossible to figure out.  These numbers might be vaguely accurate, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Think about all that...that's not as impossible as you would think. OK FORGET 20 MILLION if it's too much, 15 million copies worldwide don't you really think it could happen?

Doesn't the album have to be released for it to sell?  And why on earth do you expect it to be released anytime soon (especially considering they just lost the lead guitarist)?  

[rocktar81]

Where are you getting these worldwide sales numbers?

everywhere on the internet and/or bands' websites and/or bands biography.

[estranged.1098]

Doesn't the album have to be released for it to sell?  And why on earth do you expect it to be released anytime soon (especially considering they just lost the lead guitarist)?  

Noone said it will come out soon, this is not the first time we're having this discussion and it won't be the last.

You could look at things in a different way though, Rio is only 2 months ahead.

[Hung Well]

Where are you getting these worldwide sales numbers?

everywhere on the internet and/or bands' websites and/or bands biography.

How accurate is this info?  We know RIAA is accurate--for US only.  Considering that most countries do not have a RIAA equivalent, I think it would be impossible to determine worldwide sales.