Seattle show cut short?

[jarmo]

I read on other boards (The GN'R Bar and the VR Forum) that the Seattle show was cut short after Slither. Seems like the last three songs weren't performed for some reason.

 

Was anybody from here at the show?



/jarmo

[Booker Floyd]

Two songs were cut...From Velvet-Revolver.com...

Thanks to Bryce: a kick ass show but tragically just (and when i say just i mean BARELY) over an hour long set.  The set list was the same as prior shows minus mr.browstone and negative creep.  The guys all played really well but i personally was drawn to scotts amazing stage energy, that man is insane.  My favorite song of the set was their cover of sex type thing.  Overall the show had a great energy but it would have been better if the set was longer, i also won the cd, and let me say it is a spectacular record.  I'm sure everyone will be pleased with it when it's officially released.  Over all i give this show 4 out of 5 stars.  it would have been 5 if the show had been just a little bit longer.  

[Eeebs]

Since you are looking for info, this review comes from CharlieDontSurf, over at the GNR Bar.  

***

Alright. Charlie is back from his 14 hour drive to see his idols. I was supposed to go see them again tonight in Portland, Orgeon, but I can't guarantee they will be there. Here's the review of my night.

Get to the Moore Theatre at around 5:30. I see an already massive lineup. The Moore looks like the biggest piece of shit from the outside. Good ol' white trash is in the lineup, all in the predictable rock shirts. There are the "ho's" who are wearing the sluttiest stuff south of the border, who stay in line for only a couple of minutes before they are escorted in. I am sure Sorum had something to do with it.

I actually saw Sorum outside, he brushed shoulders with me as he was walking across the street with some guy. I was in line and was the only one who noticed him, I didn't want to start something by going up to him.

Get inside the venue and its great. Its an ancient cathedral like building. Absolutely awesome. Almost church like. With 2 balcony's, the linup was kind of useless as you are designated an area anyways on your ticket. I go to the first balcony and sit front row on the edge. It was so close. I couldn't believe this place. Massive chandelier from the ceiling. Little balconies on the side. I was stoked. Met 3 guys from Olympia. Cool dudes.

Living Things come on proclaiming that the white trash is here. They were... well almost good. They singer has Mick Jagger swagger, minus the charisma.

Anyways, after a long ass wait. The lights dim and the boys come on. "From Hollywood, Velvet... Revolver!". Awesome. They break into "Suckertrain Blues". Good opening song. Ah, fuck it. Who cares about the songs. More important stuff.

Two girls put a sign over the balcony that said "Wheres Izzy?". Duff had a massive smile on his face.

Slash seems larger than life out there. He looks like a steroid injected maniac.

Anyways, I want to talk about the trivial stuff... but then the first encore song, "Used to Love Her". They played the intro like 8 times maybe. Scott never showed up. The boys looked pretty confused. They kind of congrugated in the middle and talked about what they would do. They didn't seem worried, as they were smiling. Maybe disbelief. Scott does enventually come out.

Then before they do the next song Scott gives a huddle with the guys. I was thinking, AWESOME, a change in the setlist. COMA! Haha... no. They did "Slither", and then left the building. Whatever Scott said cut the night short.

It was awful, the house lights came on. People started booing. Then the "We want more!" chant. I am not sure what happened last night, but it can't be good. I was pretty disgusted. I mean I think the show didn't even clock in at an hour. Thats all people could talk about when I was leaving.

It was an amazing hour... but when you leave with a bitter taste, it sucks.

So, needless to say, I am not travelling to Portland to see the "show" tonight. I can't risk it. Its a long drive from home. I have friends to visit, more important things to do.

Beginning of the end?

[Voodoochild]

That's not a big deal. Detroit 2002 show with GNR ended up early too, but then they played the regular set list in the next show...
At least, I hope it's not a big deal.  

[Doc Emmett Brown]

CharlieDontSurf posts here as well right? - his name sounds familiar

Whatever Scott said cut the night short.

It was awful, the house lights came on. People started booing. Then the "We want more!" chant. I am not sure what happened last night, but it can't be good. I was pretty disgusted. I mean I think the show didn't even clock in at an hour.

That sucks.  Did Scott look ill in the earlier part of the show? I hope he hasnt returned to his junkie habits again.  

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Ok VR fans start bashing the band since t hey cut the set short.
You guys were bashing axl for cutting the detriot show short.
So let the bashings begin.

[Eazy E]

Ok VR fans start bashing the band since t hey cut the set short.
You guys were bashing axl for cutting the detriot show short.
So let the bashings begin.

Yeah, that was after Axl had already missed one concert... VR may yet give an explanation for the short set, and it's unlikely it will be "Scott had a hissy fit because he didn't get the right type of eyebrow bleach"... but we'll see...

[echrisl]

Well, this makes me glad I decided not to pay 100 dollars for tickets and drive for 4 hours to make it to the show.

[Falcon]

I had a friend at the show, supposedly there was a venue/curfew issue...

Who knows, I never thought it would get this far...

[dave-gnfnr2k]

I had a friend at the show, supposedly there was a venue/curfew issue...

Who knows, I never thought it would get this far...

I guess VR should have gone on earlier then eh?
I also see from the review they had a long ass wait?
Why not bashing for this?
People constantly bitch when Axl goes on so late, but I guess its ok when VR does it right?

[Falcon]

I had a friend at the show, supposedly there was a venue/curfew issue...

Who knows, I never thought it would get this far...

I guess VR should have gone on earlier then eh?
I also see from the review they had a long ass wait?
Why not bashing for this?
People constantly bitch when Axl goes on so late, but I guess its ok when VR does it right?

Did you not notice the tone of disbelief/doubt/sounds like an excuse to me vibe of my post?

Keep throwin' out the bait, someone will bite...

[Naupis]

Something tells me the concert was not cut short because Scott got pissed at Slash completely fucking up a song and deciding to walk out. I am sure they will tell us what the problem was if there was one because that is the way they seem to do things. If they pretend it never happened, then they are fair game to be shit on.

[killingvector]

VR is giving dave alot of ammo. Seriously, some of you can dish it out but not take it.

At the very least, it should cast some light on how some of you are merciless to axl, blaming him for everything that goes wrong without any evidence one way or another.

Curfew? how many times have gnr gone past curfew because they don't give a fuck about some venue's rules. This is supposed to be 'dangerous rock n roll' not some frasier crane attempt at being dangerous.

i do think scott probably had a stomach bug a la bobby hurley in the final four.

[Falcon]

VR is giving dave alot of ammo.

If not playing an encore at one show is all that goes wrong with this band on this tour, I'd say the "bashing" will be minimal...

If hit single, sold out tour, album release date = "alot of ammo", then so be it.  

It's got to be tough to swallow for some....

[dave-gnfnr2k]

VR is giving dave alot of ammo.

If not playing an encore at one show is all that goes wrong with this band on this tour, I'd say the "bashing" will be minimal...

If hit single, sold out tour, album release date = "alot of ammo", then so be it.  

It's got to be tough to swallow for some....

well its not really an encore since they always do it right?  

[bill213]

Other than dave claiming Scott ripped of Axl's rant's and small crap like that, i have no beef against dave and his posts.  If anyone thinks that scott weiland is an angel who will deliver 100% of the time, got bad news for you.  Scott's missed tours due to drug problems, been late, and christ the only stp show i ever went to was ended a few songs early because scott got pissed with the crowd groping women as they crowd surfed.  He's not the anti-axl and he's definitely not a perfect angel but my only comparison is.....the man can rock, just the same as axl.  when they get their shit together and give it their all on stage, axl and scott both are very awesome frontman and put on one hell of a show.

[the dirt]

well its not really an encore since they always do it right?  

An encore is an encore wheather they usually play the same song or not.

[killingvector]

it may have been an encore but a 60 minute show is a disgrace.

[TK1]

I may not agree with everything Dave says, but there is some truth to what he is saying.  If this was Axl that cancelled the show, this board would be getting pounded with anti Axl posts.   However, I think the difference is this is just one show VR has cancelled.  A lot of bands have cancelled shows.  Now, if they develop a habit of showing up late, or even worse, not even showing, then they deserve as much criticism as Axl gets.    But, at least they cancelled the show with a little notice and have already rescheduled.  That is a little better than just not showing up to a venue that is already full...

[Jizzo]

What time did the show end?

[Butch Français]

I had a friend at the show, supposedly there was a venue/curfew issue...

Who knows, I never thought it would get this far...

I guess VR should have gone on earlier then eh?
I also see from the review they had a long ass wait?
Why not bashing for this?
People constantly bitch when Axl goes on so late, but I guess its ok when VR does it right?

to answer your last question: Yes.

[Dizzy]

However, I think the difference is this is just one show VR has cancelled.   But, at least they cancelled the show with a little notice and have already rescheduled.

Yeah, so in other words, it wasn't cancelled at all.  It was postponed.

That is a little better than just not showing up to a venue that is already full...

Or as "full" as it was going to get.  

but a 60 minute show is a disgrace.

Actually, when it comes to clubs, a 60 minute show is standard, even for most headlining bands.  VR just happen to have been playing longer.

[Sukie]

Dave and badgirl...I'm finding this whole back and forth between you two annoying so please take it to pm's or stay on topic.  

We'll just have to see if the set being cut short becomes a habit for the band.  On an interesting side note, I saw part of Headbanger's Ball tonight on MTV and VR were the special guests.  But...guess who was missing?  That's right- Scott!  Evidently, it was his anniversary and he was somewhere in a plane.  I didn't see the whole thing so if they said more about his absence, I missed it.  

[D]

im gonna have to completely agree with dave on this

if axl had done the same shit there would be a thread with 10 pages of rants and pissed off posters sayin what an asshole axl is

i love VR, SLash is the reason i picked up a guitar but im fuckin sick of the free pass they get cause they are so called sympathetic victims of axl's psychoticness

im not sayin bash VR but people shouldnt bash axl either

fuck if GNR played every song but paradise city and u feel ripped off i think philly fans would wanna smack u in the teeth, u should be fortunate u saw that much of W Axl Rose

there isnt anything on a ticket stub guaranteeing u will hear certain songs

how did scott's vocals sound? was his voice ok? maybe they  had some equipment technical difficulties

couldve been a death in a family, who knows

we should wait for an explanation to bash VR but no one wouldve waited to bash axl so each his own i guess

name calling is a juvenile unoriginal way to try and win an argument
no one should be called names because they share a different opinion as someone else

cmon falcon u are way to politically correct brother

the "C" word?, is cunt up there with the "N" word now in taboo? i dont guess its good manners or etiquette to call any female a cunt

dont ban drunk, he is a valuable contributor to the board!

[Eazy E]

You know, if the GN'R tour hadn't kicked off with the Vancouver incident, and if they had been supporting the material they had been TOURING under (Chinese Democracy World Tour), and if Axl hadn't stacked the odds against him by replacing every member of a legendary band.... then I might see the comparison with the Detroit show.  

The way i see it, Axl asked for people to challenge him by keeping the name Guns N' Roses... and he failed miserably.... VR said they were starting fresh, and so far their only misstep was a concert missing a SECOND encore (btw, I'm sure the "curfew" is a result of Scott's drug problem, so attacking him for that is weak).  Not to mention the band has just re-scheduled yesterdays show... where was the rescheduled Philly show? or Rio??

Dont attack VR for not playing a second encore because "GNR did it once and everyone said bad shit"... attack Axl for not rescheduling the concerts he cancels, or not releasing the albums he promises... but wait.... that makes too much sense, sorry.  

[jarmo]

If you don't stop the whining, I'm gonna delete the off topic posts in this thread.

Maybe I should anyway since you were already told to quit and you didn't.


Edit: Well, it's done now. Apparently some VR fans can only write, not read.



/jarmo

[younggunner]

You know, if the GN'R tour hadn't kicked off with the Vancouver incident, and if they had been supporting the material they had been TOURING under (Chinese Democracy World Tour)

Why play material from your new cd when you arent going to release it at that time?  WHo cares about the Vancouver Incident. It was a cancelled show. The world didnt stop.

and if Axl hadn't stacked the odds against him by replacing every member of a legendary band.

you have to understand the reason axl has kept the name is because guns n roses hasnt ended...just some of the players decided not to evolve  

Axl asked for people to challenge him by keeping the name Guns N' Roses... and he failed miserably....

Axl has kept the name because in his mind gnr hasnt ended. The old members and he decided to move on. He kept the name. O well. How the hell has he failed miserably.....What will make or break Axl Rose and this new GNR is the material they release. That will either put Axl in another universe or throw him into the pile of hasbeens. Until that day comes you can say what you want but when that last note of cd is heard that is hwne you can say he faild or not....

VR said they were starting fresh, and so far their only misstep was a concert missing a SECOND encore (btw, I'm sure the "curfew" is a result of Scott's drug problem, so attacking him for that is weak

If they decided not to start "fresh" how would they start? I could careless about no shows and complaining about setlists at a rock concert. Its part of RNR. The bigger problem I have with VR is their album.

The whole 2002 tour people were complaining about gnrs setlist. Then one show gets cut short they were saying Axl is a selfish asshole because he didnt play after patience. You cant have the best of both worlds. And I will guarentee when they go out an tour for CD they will have a mixed set not some structured say the same thing everynight set....

where was the rescheduled Philly show? or Rio??

Well the you cant reshedule the Philly show because the tour got cancelled. SO how would they reschedule it?
And Rio is not a regular concert. Its 1 day. So next Rio Im pretty sure youll see the big boys there.....

attack Axl for not rescheduling the concerts he cancels, or not releasing the albums he promises... but wait.... that makes too much sense, sorry

It does make sense. Why should you care when he cancells concerts. It comes with the territory of gnr. So you make that choice. As for the album...well you have a few options...
1)take what he and the band members say regarding the release witha grain of salt..until you see its official
2)Remain patient
3)Be a lil pussy and complain.
Just move on if you cant handle it. This is not rocket science. You either can chill here and wait which even though half of you have bitched and complain and made fun of the band everyday for a few years now seems liek your still here....I wonder why....or you can move on...go listen to whatever....

btw, I'm sure the "curfew" is a result of Scott's drug problem, so attacking him for that is weak

The curfews are from the venues. Why cant Vr go on a lil earlier? They go on an hour late as it is. Then only play the same songs in the same order and Scott says the same stuff. Dont get me wrong they are amazing live but you have to call it like it is...

[Ignatius]

Actually, when it comes to clubs, a 60 minute show is standard, even for most headlining bands.  VR just happen to have been playing longer.

Not true. Shit, the longest concerts I have ever been too have been in clubs. It does happen though when a band doesn't have too much material to choose from  they will play the length or their CD and a couple of covers, but the length of a show doesn't have anything to do with the size of the venue.

On a side note, I'm not trying to start any controversy here, but these VR threads are getting boring. It's fun when people discussed about the topic itself refraining from posting references to board members, but lately, people just post to bash either the VR supporters or GNR supporters. And that is fucking ridiculous.

On topic, having VR played a shorter setlist instead of the normal 80-90 minutes set, does seem strange. I don't but that curfew shit...what time did the show begin anyway? maybe- and I'm just saying maybe- VR didn't feel like playing longer, maybe not. But until an explanation is given, anyone is entitle to bash them upon their own interpretations.

[tomass74]

Axl nut lickers go away. Every time something happens you are going to come here and blow it up to make it seem like like VR are somewhere on the same level as Axl in their screw ups. Ending a show 2 songs early is hardly anything to bitch about.  A 60 minute set for $20 is worth the money. To even compare this with any of Axl no shows, whining fits, attacking audience memebers, or any of the other obsurd things he does is pretty lame and it just makes you look stupid.  I'm not saying that Scott or the band will not let people down at times but atleast wait til they do something that is worth bashing.

[SLCPUNK]

Actually, when it comes to clubs, a 60 minute show is standard, even for most headlining bands.  VR just happen to have been playing longer.

On a side note, I'm not trying to start any controversy here, but these VR threads are getting boring. It's fun when people discussed about the topic itself refraining from posting references to board members, but lately, people just post to bash either the VR supporters or GNR supporters. And that is fucking ridiculous.

You took the words out of my mouth.

They are very boring. It's amazing you guys can go on like this sometimes.