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« on: July 03, 2004, 04:28:55 AM »

I'm not talking about his on stage presence. If you just look at GnR, (espially the fast songs) you can see how much IZZY did for GnR he wrote / cowrote some of the best songs for GnR. I believe that is why there was no followup to UYI since Izzy was gone. Slash might of been a better solo/riff player and on stage presence, but God Bless Izzy's writing all the way back to Hollywood Rose to his 117 degrees. God Bless you Izzy  smoking
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2004, 12:14:55 PM »

Hell yeah!! Izzy rocks. He's a god really.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2004, 12:42:30 PM »

So does anyone have any Izzy news as to what he's been up to lately?
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2004, 01:28:31 PM »

Yeah, Izzy is the best guitarist ever
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2004, 07:07:17 PM »

DOes anyone know if Izza has an official web page?
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2004, 05:22:48 AM »

yeah, he did but the guy who ran it couldnt run it anymore so it got taken down.
but if you go here  http://www.beenafix.com/forum/  this is his official forum.
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2004, 04:12:57 PM »

I agree. I always prefered Izzy over Slash songwriting wise.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2004, 01:56:11 AM »

i would have to agree in saying that izzy's a great guitarist when looking at his songwriting ability.  however, i still prefer slash.  putting all technical aspects of his chops aside, he too is a great songwriter.  what i'm talking about here is his ability to create powerful and fascinating melodies in his mind and manifest them in his playing without any musical theory to push him along.  take estranged for example.  i really need to get ahold of some of izzy's solo releases though; how do they compare to gilby's?
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2004, 02:59:04 AM »

I'm not talking about his on stage presence. If you just look at GnR, (espially the fast songs) you can see how much IZZY did for GnR he wrote / cowrote some of the best songs for GnR. I believe that is why there was no followup to UYI since Izzy was gone. Slash might of been a better solo/riff player and on stage presence, but God Bless Izzy's writing all the way back to Hollywood Rose to his 117 degrees. God Bless you Izzy  smoking

Well, he was a great writer but that doesn't mean he's a great guitarist... there are far better rythym players in my opinion, although Izzy isn't a hack.

A great writer yes... but a dime a dozen guitarist.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2004, 03:26:26 PM »

IZZY ROCKS!

He has such a talent for song writing!
His presence on stage has always been cool, he's cool- laidback, just  wants to play, not live up to the glam rock type of thing, but just to stand on stage n play that baby! (his guitar!)
without Izzy there would be no GNR!
He made GNR back in the day- they were his band!
Then Axl took over!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2004, 04:32:21 PM »

IZZY ROCKS!

He has such a talent for song writing!
His presence on stage has always been cool, he's cool- laidback, just  wants to play, not live up to the glam rock type of thing, but just to stand on stage n play that baby! (his guitar!)
without Izzy there would be no GNR!
He made GNR back in the day- they were his band!
Then Axl took over!  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2004, 05:35:48 PM »

His presence on stage has always been cool, he's cool- laidback, just  wants to play, not live up to the glam rock type of thing, but just to stand on stage n play that baby! (his guitar!)


Wasn't it Izzy that turned the band onto Hanoi Rocks?  I can't remember where the quote was and I'm too lazy to find out but somebody said that Izzy was the one that used to make Axl up originally.  Izzy was the one that started 'the glam rock type of thing'.

Ever seen any of the old pictures? Izzy wasn't exactly standing still. Check this for instance http://www.laserfire.com/hollywoodrose/index.html
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2004, 04:31:50 AM »

Wasn't it Izzy that turned the band onto Hanoi Rocks?  I can't remember where the quote was and I'm too lazy to find out but somebody said that Izzy was the one that used to make Axl up originally.  Izzy was the one that started 'the glam rock type of thing'.

Yeah, Izzy introduced Hanoi Rocks to Axl, who then got into them as well. If you look at the video to Paradise City, you can notice that Izzy has ripped off Andy McCoy's trademark 'spin with the guitar'.
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2004, 01:11:54 AM »

When I talked to him in september he said he was shopping his new solo record to labels.
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2004, 01:32:05 AM »

When I talked to him in september he said he was shopping his new solo record to labels.
Are you talking about Izzy and if so any word on wether or not the tracks he worked on with Duff, Slash, and Matt will be on it?
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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2004, 01:44:41 AM »

this record was done back in 2002, but hasn't been released yet.

I think that his time with "the project" happened after this record was made
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2004, 10:20:22 AM »

He also made a record with slash and duff a while back that was meant to be sold over the internet. I wonder what happened to that..
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2004, 10:21:00 PM »

well izzy came up with alot of riffs and he is a kick ass guitarist and songwriter, i also love the backing vocals!
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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2004, 12:00:54 AM »

He also made a record with slash and duff a while back that was meant to be sold over the internet. I wonder what happened to that..
Really I've never heard anything about this, when was this rumor or cd talked about? pre 2002?
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2004, 12:20:58 AM »

I love Izzy's work. He's one of the best songwriters of all time. His solo albums are amazing. 'Ride On' is his masterpiece, IMHO. In a perfect world, it would be on Rolling Stones top 500 albums of all-time. Oh well.

It's kind of sad that no one has really heard his solo work, outside of the die-hards. And it's a pain in the ass to pay 30 dollars to have to get it, via Amazon.
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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2004, 07:30:28 AM »

He also made a record with slash and duff a while back that was meant to be sold over the internet. I wonder what happened to that..
Really I've never heard anything about this, when was this rumor or cd talked about? pre 2002?

http://snakepit.org/0102news.html

It's in there...

"SLASH says he is working with Izzy to finish up the album. SLASH gave us more information on that project. He says that he, SLASH, wrote 3 of the songs and did guitar work on the whole album. Duff came in and laid down the bass. Izzy does the singing and also plays guitar. SLASH says it is just about ready to go. Izzy is not into heavy promotion, so you may not see much about it. It will be for sale on the internet. SLASH says don't think of it as the next GNR or Snakepit album...it is not in that style. As soon as we know more about sale dates, we'll let you know! "
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2004, 05:20:22 AM »

Izzy is the best ok Great songwriter,great guitarist,good singer(at least he has a cool voice Cool) and damn cool guy!!
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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2004, 05:51:47 PM »

Izzy was Guns' pioneer, the guy with the vision.

To add to that, he's stayed true to who he is all the way through, regardless, and in this musical and social climate I have the ultimate respect for that.

And he's a good guitarist n songwriter too!  Cheesy
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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2004, 07:25:39 PM »

I know most people recognize Izzy for his song writing ability but I always dug his voice alot too. Not saying he has a ton of range or anything just has a cool sound to it. Real bluesy even pre-solo stuff.
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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2004, 07:54:27 PM »

I like them all as picks for GN'R besides Paul Tobias (really never got in to that guy).  I'd have to go with BUCKETHEAD.
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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2004, 09:58:48 PM »

grogmug, try to stick to the topic. It's about izzy, not 'who's your favourite GN'R guitarist'
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2004, 11:16:18 PM »

One thing about Izzy is I don't know how anyone could have a bad word to say about him. Sure he left the group which sucks but it seems for justifiable reasons. I am gonna have to say I prefer Slash overall tho to Izzy. LOVE Izzy's solo work and song writing ability but lest you forget Slash wrote some pretty awesome riffs (wttj, scom) and is a much better player than Izzy.
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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2004, 04:46:19 PM »

without Izzy there would be no GNR!
Well said!? ok

http://snakepit.org/0102news.html

It's in there...

"SLASH says he is working with Izzy to finish up the album. SLASH gave us more information on that project. He says that he, SLASH, wrote 3 of the songs and did guitar work on the whole album. Duff came in and laid down the bass. Izzy does the singing and also plays guitar. SLASH says it is just about ready to go. Izzy is not into heavy promotion, so you may not see much about it. It will be for sale on the internet. SLASH says don't think of it as the next GNR or Snakepit album...it is not in that style. As soon as we know more about sale dates, we'll let you know! "

Sounds like he's referring to "Like A Dog" , the album that hasn't been released yet.
Besides there are ten songs Izzy worked with the Project before Scott came in and a couple of tracks he recorded with Steven Adler this year(which includes The Contours' Do You Love Me).
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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2004, 05:48:53 AM »

That project is not Like A Dog, it's an EP that was recorded in Nov 2001

Like A Dog was recorded in the beginning of 2003, it was mastered in at the end of May

The ten songs he did with VR are not on LAD

Also a few months ago he has recorded a few songs with Adler, he might release those. Maybe he'll be guesting on the Adler's Appetite album aswell
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« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2004, 12:20:44 AM »

The ten songs he did with VR are not on LAD
Yeah i'm aware of that, i call The Project  to pre - VR.
But i didn't remember a thing about the EP.

God there's a lot of unreleased stuff:

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« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2004, 06:20:34 AM »

Yeah, he said that the two things he likes the most is writing songs and travelling

He was asked why with the Ju Ju Hounds didn't play any GN'R stuff and he said that those songs where ancient, like from '85 and that it's much more exciting writing and playing new stuff
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« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2004, 07:39:10 PM »

Izzy has a gift for writing amazing lyrics. hes a great guitarist, perhaps not as good as slash, but still is a great musician. slash, althought he's known for his guitar work, also wrote great lyrics. their both good in their own division, but u will all agree with me together they kick ass.
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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2004, 06:23:28 PM »

I agree, Izzy was a kick ass songwriter, and his lack of being there really shows on the VR record, lyrically.
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« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2004, 11:39:32 AM »

Not only lyrically, musically aswell imo
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« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2004, 03:42:41 PM »

I love Izzy's work. He's one of the best songwriters of all time. His solo albums are amazing. 'Ride On' is his masterpiece, IMHO. In a perfect world, it would be on Rolling Stones top 500 albums of all-time. Oh well.

It's kind of sad that no one has really heard his solo work, outside of the die-hards. And it's a pain in the ass to pay 30 dollars to have to get it, via Amazon.

Hells yeah, man!  I decided to download some Izzy solo stuff today, and "Ride On" just grabbed me by the balls as soon as I heard it.  What a great driving song.  It's a song that would have been all over classic rock radio if people cared enough to give Izzy a chance.  Doesn't really matter, though - Izzy's always been more happy out of the spotlight anyway.

If Axl is the rock god I want to be, Izzy is the rock star I could be.  Izzy has a voice kind of like mine, and we both tend to focus more on rhythm guitar than lead.  Finally, he's an amazing songwriter, and that's always been perhaps my main area of interest in music.  So he's very influential on my musicianship.  To me, Izzy represents making the music you want and not giving a damn what anybody thinks.  His solo albums are great, but they don't get a lot of attention - and he doesn't give a shit.  He's totally in it for the music.  There's a certain purity to that.
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