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« on: April 29, 2004, 04:29:56 PM »

I was just wondering what albums do you love that have been slated, have had awful reviews and have failed to sell much at all (unknown bands don't count it's obvious why they sell fuck all).  Not quite the underated albums otherwise too many will be listed e.g.'The Spaghetti Incident?'  although it failed to succeed like other GN'R albums it did not get totally critisced and i would not say it failed.  Albums i believe have are;

M?tley Cr?e - Generation Swine
It is my fave M?tley Cr?e album i think it's great but all the reviews ive read have said it sucked.  Classic Rock said Vince was back for 1997's 'Generation Swine but the mojo was gone and they gave it 2 stars.  They experimented on the album and i thought the results were damn good and i cannot fail a single track.  I believe though it was one of the poorest selling Cr?e albums and maybe at the time it was in fact the poorest selling but i don't know how tracks like 'Afraid' and 'Brandon' can be faulted.

Skid Row - ThickSkin
This album has really been slated.  Kerrang gave it 1K out of 5K's and Classic Rock gave it 2 stars.  Now i realise the great Sebastian Bach has departed and Johnny Solinger cannot reach his vocal range (who can?) but it is still a damn good album.  Tracks like 'Born A Beggar', 'Ghost', 'See You Around' and 'One Light' would not be out of place on a Best of Skid Row album.  I admit 'Thick Is The Skin' and 'Hittin' A Wall' are medicore at best but overall this album is great Johnny in his first outing has done good not great but good.  Snake/Bolan/Hill have shown they can write damn good melodies and if they had got a major label to put this out rather than doing it themselves im sure it would have done a hell of a lot better.
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2004, 10:10:43 PM »

I agree on Generation Swine, I thought they had some great songs on that one.

I haven't heard the Skid Row yet, so I can't comment.
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2004, 03:34:03 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2004, 07:33:04 AM »

Roger Waters - AMused to death
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2004, 06:42:00 PM »

M?tley Cr?e - Theatre Of Pain
Even the Cr?e themselves hate this one, saying that it was mostly filler (Vince described everything besides "Home Sweet Home" as "pure shit").  Critics hated the Cr?e anyway, and said this was another triumph of style over substance.  But I bought this album ot too long ago, and I love it to death.  There are a couple songs that are clearly filler, but for the most part it's wall-to-wall awesome headbangin' hard rock.  Songs like "Keep Your Eye On The Money", "City Boy Blues", and "Fight For Your Rights" totally rock and exemplify Nikki Sixx's way-underrated songwriting.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2004, 08:20:44 PM »

Faith No More - King For A Day... Fool For A Lifetime

After the huge success of 'The Real Thing' and 'Angel Dust', this record was considered a sort of letdown. That's something I've never really understood, cos it's such a solid album from start to finish. Great variety and some pretty good humour, to me it's better than 'Angel Dust', even.
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2004, 02:25:06 PM »

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Amused to Death is an album inspired By Roger Waters Watching Tv ,news , and all that shit!  I think is a great album , great lyrics and great music! Even JEff Beck played there. To me this album inspired Pink Floyd to make "The Division Bell"


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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2004, 02:32:45 PM »

Faith No More - King For A Day... Fool For A Lifetime

After the huge success of 'The Real Thing' and 'Angel Dust', this record was considered a sort of letdown. That's something I've never really understood, cos it's such a solid album from start to finish. Great variety and some pretty good humour, to me it's better than 'Angel Dust', even.

God no.

That album is awful

Faith no more are one of the best bands ever - but they could never stop fiddling with their style - and 'Album of the year' is probably as bad....
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2004, 03:42:28 PM »

Faith No More - King For A Day... Fool For A Lifetime
God no.
That album is awful

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Faith no more are one of the best bands ever - but they could never stop fiddling with their style - and 'Album of the year' is probably as bad....

I didn't mind the variety on King For A Day, I love almost every single song on that album. From the sick 'The Gentle Art Of Making Enemies' to the sublime closer 'Just A Man', it's all quality material.

But I do agree with you on 'Album Of The Year', I thought it was pretty boring..
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2004, 03:55:51 PM »

I really like "Album of the Year"...the variety is cool, but it took me awhile to get into it.  It sounded awfully familiar but it grew on me and is now tied with KFAD, FFAL as my fav FNM albums.  There are a bunch of songs from AOTY that I'd like played at my funeral, hopefully accompanied by a music video I can produce well beforehand.  
After all, what's a funeral without a few laughs?  Well, i guess the answer is a proper funeral.  I'd like to have people remembering fun stuff at mine, though.

Back on topic:
Spaghetti Incident fits this nicely, I think.
I also really like Pearl Jam's "Vitalogy" and most people I know and reviews I've read seem to disagree.
NIN's "The Fragile" is Trent's strongest collection of music, IMODO.
Alice in Chains' final studio album, the self-titled, "Tripod" nicknamed deal, is my favorite of theirs.

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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2004, 06:08:01 AM »

Roger Waters - AMused to death


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Amused to Death is an album inspired By Roger Waters Watching Tv ,news , and all that shit!  I think is a great album , great lyrics and great music! Even JEff Beck played there. To me this album inspired Pink Floyd to make "The Division Bell"


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i know its a great album... i regard it as one of the best albums of the 90's///but the media saw it as a failure, it didnt sell well at all, i t was bashed everywhere.
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2004, 12:12:01 PM »

Roger Waters - AMused to death


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Amused to Death is an album inspired By Roger Waters Watching Tv ,news , and all that shit!  I think is a great album , great lyrics and great music! Even JEff Beck played there. To me this album inspired Pink Floyd to make "The Division Bell"


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i know its a great album... i regard it as one of the best albums of the 90's///but the media saw it as a failure, it didnt sell well at all, i t was bashed everywhere.



So Fuck The Media then!!  rant
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2004, 02:41:48 PM »

Roger Waters - AMused to death

i know its a great album... i regard it as one of the best albums of the 90's///but the media saw it as a failure, it didnt sell well at all, i t was bashed everywhere.

Agreed.  It was critically panned but I thought it was great.  Definitely his best post-Floyd work.
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2004, 02:43:05 PM »

So Fuck The Media then!!  rant

What are you going on about?  He's saying it's a great album, even though the media didn't like it.  WTF?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2004, 12:47:57 AM »

So Fuck The Media then!!  rant

What are you going on about?  He's saying it's a great album, even though the media didn't like it.  WTF?  Roll Eyes


I know what he meant, what im saying is that media sucks! cause in roger waters you wont find a radio friendly song (a single) . I love that album!! butthat album wasnt made to average "music" listeners  no
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I know what he meant, what im saying is that media sucks! cause in roger waters you wont find a radio friendly song (a single) . I love that album!! butthat album wasnt made to average "music" listeners  no


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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2004, 05:22:59 PM »

I figured it would be cool to have a thread where everyone can post an album they don't think ever got enough attention but was real fucking good. Who knows, you could turn others on to some cool shit. I'll get the ball rolling

Alice Cooper-The Last Temptation
Not that Alices albums ever really get a ton of attention, but I have friends who listen to alot of rock music who have never even heard anything off of it, or of it. From start to finish this is a great cd, my favorite Alice cd. Goes old school on "sideshow" to start it off, some cool rockers on the album, cool ballads especially chris cornell guest appearing on "stolen prayer". Only one song I can skip when playing it in the car (unholy war). If you're downloading check out songs like "lullaby" "nothings free" & "you're my temptation.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2004, 06:13:36 PM »

AC/DC - Powerage

This is an album, that isn't really never noticed by the "normal-AC/DC-likers", but is so much loved by the fans. Most of the "hardcore" fans (inc. me) are totally in love with this masterpiece, but for some reason it has never got the notification in the public. This album doesn't really have any "classic tracks" that the other Bon-era albums, but the album is just an amazing masterpiece from the very first second until the end. Awesome, bluesy, rock-album with amazing lyrics, rockin' riffs and ballbreaking solos.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2004, 06:33:07 PM »

In general, I think that the band L.A. Guns has always been underrated, so I'm gonna have to say their first 2 albums, L.A. Guns and Cocked and Loaded...but one album in particular...Vicious Cycle...it's got some cool tunes on that one.  I especially like the song Nothin Better To Do...it's sung by their bass player, but it's awesome

Another album would be Steelheart - Tangled in Reins....these guys never really made it that big, and if you listen to them you'll probably think I'm nuts cause they're hair metal ALL THE WAY...but they got some wicked tracks...especially the first 5.  Some impressive guitar work and the singer could probably shatter some glass...it's a total crank it up in your car while your drivin kinda music...i dunno...I really dig it

Finally...I have to say Bon Jovi - These Days...i don't think I've seen alot of amazing reviews for it, but I think it's some of Bon Jovi's best song writing...he really shows his blue collar roots.  The band is definitely talented, and IMO, i think they're song writing skills really show on that album, both lyrically and musically.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2004, 07:24:57 PM »

Alice Cooper-The Last Temptation
Not that Alices albums ever really get a ton of attention, but I have friends who listen to alot of rock music who have never even heard anything off of it, or of it. From start to finish this is a great cd, my favorite Alice cd. Goes old school on "sideshow" to start it off, some cool rockers on the album, cool ballads especially chris cornell guest appearing on "stolen prayer". Only one song I can skip when playing it in the car (unholy war). If you're downloading check out songs like "lullaby" "nothings free" & "you're my temptation.

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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2004, 08:14:10 PM »

all Lynyrd skynyrd is underatted
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2004, 10:45:29 PM »

Alice Cooper- The Eyes of Alice Cooper- I just bought this and Love it.  I know for sure this didn't sell nothing.
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2004, 11:01:26 PM »

Limp Bizkit "results may vary"  this cd is one of the best cds ive ever heard this century, it is way better than contraband even in my opinion, Fred writes some great lyrics and the songs are so touching and beautiful on this cd, very very underrated!!!!!!!

they simply released the wrong singles, eat you alive and behind blue eyes are 2 of the worst songs on here "let me down,"lonely world" "phenomenon", build a bridge, down another day,"creamer (all radio is dead) "drown", "underneath the gun" are so fuckin amazing!
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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2004, 12:07:57 AM »

Limp Bizkit "results may vary"  this cd is one of the best cds ive ever heard this century, it is way better than contraband even in my opinion, Fred writes some great lyrics and the songs are so touching and beautiful on this cd, very very underrated!!!!!!!

they simply released the wrong singles, eat you alive and behind blue eyes are 2 of the worst songs on here "let me down,"lonely world" "phenomenon", build a bridge, down another day,"creamer (all radio is dead) "drown", "underneath the gun" are so fuckin amazing!

was listen to this today and I agree it is a great album, Underneath The Gun is simple amazing.
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2004, 01:33:20 AM »

Children of Bodom - Follow the Reaper

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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2004, 10:43:44 AM »

The most underrated album of ALL time is:

earth vs. the wildhearts by The WiLDHEARTS

It is one of the greatest rock 'n' roll albums ever made.
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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2004, 04:00:45 PM »

 Faith No more-King For A DAy...Fool for a Lifetime.   Les Claypool and the holy makarel-Highball with the devil.  Blind Melon-Soup.  Mr. Bungle-Dico Volante.
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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2004, 10:16:50 PM »

I was just wondering what albums do you love that have been slated, have had awful reviews and have failed to sell much at all (unknown bands don't count it's obvious why they sell fuck all). ?Not quite the underated albums otherwise too many will be listed e.g.'The Spaghetti Incident?' ?although it failed to succeed like other GN'R albums it did not get totally critisced and i would not say it failed. ?Albums i believe have are;

M?tley Cr?e - Generation Swine
It is my fave M?tley Cr?e album i think it's great but all the reviews ive read have said it sucked. ?Classic Rock said Vince was back for 1997's 'Generation Swine but the mojo was gone and they gave it 2 stars. ?They experimented on the album and i thought the results were damn good and i cannot fail a single track. ?I believe though it was one of the poorest selling Cr?e albums and maybe at the time it was in fact the poorest selling but i don't know how tracks like 'Afraid' and 'Brandon' can be faulted.

Skid Row - ThickSkin
This album has really been slated. ?Kerrang gave it 1K out of 5K's and Classic Rock gave it 2 stars. ?Now i realise the great Sebastian Bach has departed and Johnny Solinger cannot reach his vocal range (who can?) but it is still a damn good album. ?Tracks like 'Born A Beggar', 'Ghost', 'See You Around' and 'One Light' would not be out of place on a Best of Skid Row album. ?I admit 'Thick Is The Skin' and 'Hittin' A Wall' are medicore at best but overall this album is great Johnny in his first outing has done good not great but good. ?Snake/Bolan/Hill have shown they can write damn good melodies and if they had got a major label to put this out rather than doing it themselves im sure it would have done a hell of a lot better.

I like the Crue and Skid Row, but I think both of those albums are pretty weak. The Crue tried to make a Nine Inch Pumpkins album, and Skid Row is just bland without Bach. Here are my picks:

1. Garbage- Beatiful Garbage
2. Motley Crue- Motley Crue
3. Pearl Jam- Riot Act
4. Van Halen- 3
5. Stone Temple Pilots- SLDD
6. Poison- Native Tounge
7. Scott Weiland- 12 Bar Blues
8. Union-Union
9. Union- Blue Room
10. Black Sabbath- Born Again though Forbiden
11. Skid Row- Subhuman Race
12. Izzy  Stradlin- all his records
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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2004, 11:20:29 AM »

1. Faith No More Angel Dust - Only Certified Gold in the USA - That's a crime!!!!!!
2. Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante
3. Blitzspeer - Saves and Live
4. Malhavoc - Their whole catalog
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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2004, 03:25:55 PM »

Faith No More - King For A Day... Fool For A Lifetime

After the huge success of 'The Real Thing' and 'Angel Dust', this record was considered a sort of letdown. That's something I've never really understood, cos it's such a solid album from start to finish. Great variety and some pretty good humour, to me it's better than 'Angel Dust', even.

I owe this album an apoloagy

I have always hated it - then i listened to it today, and just love it. Great variety, some really cool chilled out stuff too - top notch album and to think for years its been gathering dust in the corner.

I will have to listen to 'album of the year' again too
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« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2004, 03:52:44 PM »

I have always hated it - then i listened to it today, and just love it.

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« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2004, 04:16:14 PM »

This is a good topic... good job Stoned!

I have a decent collection of cds, 131 cds none of them are burned. All except 4-8 are in excellent condition.

THat's over 1,200 dollars of my money. So they are important to me.

Albums that are underrated are definatley these:

Skid Row - Thickskin (No Bach, who needs Bach? He had a great voice but that was it)

Bon Jovi - These Days (Bon Jovi's most full and strongest lyrical album... you just can't argue with me on this)

Neurotic Outsiders - Self-Titled (An great album that got 0 attention almost)


Bret Michaels - Song For Life (Good album with 0 push so you don't hear much about it)

Seether - Disclaimer I or II (Great rock record... needs to be out their more)

Three Days Grace - Huh I forget lol (Awesome steady album with great fillers and hit songs)

Def Leppard - Slang (This has got to be the most fucked over album in rock. It is a solid performance with no backup, I love this album... rock on Def Lep!!!!!)

Those are some that I could think of right now at this time.... I think they are legitimate...

What you guys think?
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« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2004, 01:33:54 PM »

Bret Michaels - Song For Life (Good album with 0 push so you don't hear much about it)
I'm glad you brought that up i had totally forgotten about it but it really is great i would rank it over some Poison records it still has the same fun feel but it has a little more maturity and the song Raine is great and if you know the story behind it you will understand how heartfelt it is as it dedicated to his daughter.  I really can't pick a bad track on this album even the bonus tracks Party Rock Band & Stay With Me are pretty damn good.  I think it's called Songs of Life btw dude.  I think one review i read sums up the whole album: Michaels' Songs of Life may not be breaking any new ground, but it sure is fun.
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« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2004, 02:20:46 PM »

Songs for Life is a good album. His other album, A Letter From Death Row really sucks.
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« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2004, 03:00:29 PM »

I'd have to say that the Red Hot Chili Peppers' early albums are underatted.  A lot of people had never heard of them and didn't know they had albums before Blood Sugar Sex Magic.  In fact, they had four!   "Red Hot Chilli Peppers" "Freaky Styley" "Uplift Mofo Party Plan" and "Mother's Milk".  These cd's are a far cry from their melodic pop as of late.  They are pretty much pure funk.  All of these early cd's are great and often overlooked and/or forgotten.

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