God, I hate Emo!

[kj_jive]

Just had to get this off my chest.......

I can't fuckin stand emo!!! bands like Brand New, Punchline, Fallout Boy, Something Corporate, Taking Back Sunday, Dashboard Confessionals, Story of the Year, New Found Glory, The Starting Line etc....

They make the shittiest whiniest music in the world.  All of them sound exactly the same, dress the same and the singers are identical.  This is defienetly the worst trend in music in a fucking while, worse than pop, worse than rap because they pretend to be rock.  Emo is huge in college and college towns and I'm fuckin sick of having to hear people's shitty emo rock and them drone on and on about how hard these bands rock and are cutting edge...give me a break.

Please...feel free to back me up....or disagree and bitch me out

[Lady Livin]

oh no, i completely agree. that's why i'm still practically living in 1990.

[Acquiesce]

I agree. I find it less tolerable than nu-metal which I didn't think as possible. I've been listening to a lot of 60's and 70's music lately to escape from dull mainstream.

[Lady Livin]

they have absolutely nothing to complain about. they should shut the hell up and enjoy their Lexus' while they have them. I basically hate any music that complains about life like they can't do a fucking thing about it.

[Mattman]

Well, as part of what has unfortunately become the "emo generation", I might as well offer you my opinion, which is almost exactly the same as yours.  Emo bands are generally pretty lame.  The worst example in recent memory would be Brand New.  The thing that stood out to me was that they were basically just so...BLAND.  Their big hit single - I think it was called "Sic Transit Gloria" or something - had no discernible hooks.  I mean, it wasn't catchy at all.  Same for the rest of their songs, which all have meaningless Latin titles.  And yet these guys were all anybody in my class could talk about last year.  It was just, "Brand New are the greatest!"  But they suck so much...

I feel the same way about most of the other bands on your list, although I think Dashboard are okay (their songs are catchier than most emo bands).  However, I will say that most of the bands you listed have put out ONE song each that I really like.  For example, as much as I dislike Brand New, I will say that their song "Soco Amaretto Lime" is pretty good.  I really love Taking Back Sunday's new single, "A Decade Under The Influence", even though they didn't do anything for me when I saw them open up for Blink-182.

Dashboard Confessional stands out from the rest of those bands in that they have better hooks, better songs, better lyrics, and a more charismatic frontman.  That song "Vindicated" off the Spider-Man 2 soundtrack is a favourite of mine, and I always liked the song "Hands Down" - there's something very Brian Wilson-ish about it.

Still, lately I've started to be more accepting of emo simply because there's a new genre that's far, far worse.  Has anyone here ever heard of "screamo"?  That's bands like Alexisonfire, if anybody has heard of them outside of Canada.  Basically these are bands that seem to have roots in emo, but they have lead vocalists that mainly scream (and not in the good Ian Gillan way), they have a lot of showy guitar playing in the background, they have bad pseudo-political lyrics, and all the songs sound exactly the same - they have absolutely zero hooks.  I've had to suffer through a lot of these bands lately...Alexisonfire is really popular in Canada (and I don't know why), and when Sum 41 played my university during frosh week, the opening acts were two shitty screamo bands.

So compared to screamo, emo is fine; there's a few good tunes here and there.  But I'm glad that I'm out of high school, where everybody listened to emo, and in university, where it seems everyone listens to classic rock.

[Eazy E]

Still, lately I've started to be more accepting of emo simply because there's a new genre that's far, far worse.  Has anyone here ever heard of "screamo"?  That's bands like Alexisonfire, if anybody has heard of them outside of Canada.  Basically these are bands that seem to have roots in emo, but they have lead vocalists that mainly scream (and not in the good Ian Gillan way), they have a lot of showy guitar playing in the background, they have bad pseudo-political lyrics, and all the songs sound exactly the same - they have absolutely zero hooks.  I've had to suffer through a lot of these bands lately...Alexisonfire is really popular in Canada (and I don't know why), and when Sum 41 played my university during frosh week, the opening acts were two shitty screamo bands.

Ughh... I know Alexisonfire... and also the Used... I didn't know there was a name for that shit now.  Terrible fucking music.

Sum 41 during Frosh?  Is that Queens?

[Mattman]

Ughh... I know Alexisonfire... and also the Used... I didn't know there was a name for that shit now.? Terrible fucking music.

Yep, it's called screamo.  I found that out at last year's Battle of the Bands at my school, where I had to suffer through three screaming, tuneless Alexisonfire-type bands among the crop.  "What is that shit?" I asked.  "Screamo," someone replied.

Sum 41 during Frosh?  Is that Queens?

Oil thigh na'bannrig-hinn!  GOOOOOOOOO QUEEN'S!

....ahem.  Yeah, Sum 41 were doing this university tour at the beginning of the month.  It was a pretty good show.  It seems like they get more metal with each album.

[kj_jive]

screamo = ashes to autumn...fuckin terrible

[Chris Misfit]

Those bands aren't Emo. Emo = Emotional Hardcore.

It is not a new genre, the genre is probably older than most of you.

[R4tfink]

Not older than me.
I am older than the sun, moon and stars.

I got called an Emo metaller the other day.

People can label me all the fuck they want...im just a person who likes good music.

Emo isnt one of them unfortunately.

[Lady Livin]

Those bands aren't Emo. Emo = Emotional Hardcore.

It is not a new genre, the genre is probably older than most of you.

i realize it is. i know that it goes as far back as fugazi. it's just evolved and is all over the place now.

[Chris Misfit]

It's not evolved. How has it? When genres evolve, the description changes. If not, everything would just be call rock n' roll, no wait, music, no wait sounds...ect.#

The only problem here is we have high percentages of people who know fuck all about music, it's total ignorance. Same as what Hardcore has now become. People need educating about music.

Fugazi are post-hardcore.

[Eazy E]

Oil thigh na'bannrig-hinn!  GOOOOOOOOO QUEEN'S!

....ahem.  Yeah, Sum 41 were doing this university tour at the beginning of the month.  It was a pretty good show.  It seems like they get more metal with each album.

Yeah, there was a handful of good songs on their last album.  They don't seem like they're Green Day rip-offs as much anymore.

So you're a smart motherfucker I take it... I'm probably going to be checking out Queen's sometime, one of my lady friends is going there now.  I just need a little bit of $ first.

[GnFnR87]

ok, in my opinion, Taking Back Sunday, Brand New, and Thursday are legit, but i HATE Story of the Year, Good Charlotte, New Found Glory and Sum 41.

At least Taking Back Sunday, Brand New, and Thursday have meaningful lyrics and are clearly not wannabe punks like those fucking assholes in Good Charlotte. Good Charlotte make me laugh, they're like "yea, we're badass, we'are punk, thats why we play POP MUSIC!! LOL But anyway back to meaningful lyrics, ?a good example of utter shit  lyrics is New Found Glory, all they do is work on writing a catchy chorus, no matter how bad the lyrics are,  their songs are meaningless shit and have NOO substance whatsoever, not to mention the singer has NO vocal range and fucking sings like a whiney girl. Also, New Found Glory make the same album OVER AND OVER, they have shown no maturity at all.

I hated those three bands at first too, but my friend reccomended Brand New to me, and then? i got into Taking back Sunday, great bands.

The bottom line is these guys(TBS, Brand New, Thursday) can write meaningful lyrics and are expermenting with their sound. Brand New's first album was a generic emo punk album simply about explosive love, while their latest has shown maturity, with them singing about Date rape and cancer.

[Dave_Rose]

oh I agree Emo people think there music is the real deal it sucks so bad

[Chris Misfit]

oh I agree Emo people think there music is the real deal it sucks so bad

Right. I bet you listen to some shit too. It is real music. How is it not. Wind yer neck in and grow up.

[Tj]

Emo's not so bad. I don't give the genre as much credibility as a lot of the bands perhaps desire, I don't own a single emo album, but I don't see why it's such a big problem to some people. "Sic Transit Gloria..Glory Fades" was, I thought, quite catchy and a very listenable tune, so I don't see what the problem about it is to whoever it was in this thread that complained.  If it did annoy me, I'd sooner shut up about it than focus any of my effort on complaining. It's just a genre of music, no big deal

[Jim]

Meh. Emo by it's general term can be annoying, but that's not to say you can define all bands by their genre.

I went to see The Used last Monday and they put on a cool show. Granted, I only decided to go on the day and had to tout my friggin ticket, but I enjoyed it.

Emo boys and girls (by what they understand by the term emo) can get on my nerves with relativly little effort...

...But oh well, so do a lot of people.

[jarmo]

What's this Emo thing people keep talking about? Another genre I never "got".... 


I like depressing music too, that's why I listen to Mark Lanegan. 



/jarmo

[kj_jive]

OH MY GOD!!!

Chris Misfit do you ever shut the fuck up?  Why can nobody ever be right?  Why is it that you have to always correct everyone and talk about how much fucking musical knowledge you have? I know what emo is, what it sounds like and what bands are classified as emo now.  I don't really care that you have a musical sub-genre for every single little band out there.  I mean, post hardcore? come on...you sound like an asshole.

[Mattman]

OH MY GOD!!!

Chris Misfit do you ever shut the fuck up?? Why can nobody ever be right?? Why is it that you have to always correct everyone and talk about how much fucking musical knowledge you have? I know what emo is, what it sounds like and what bands are classified as emo now.? I don't really care that you have a musical sub-genre for every single little band out there.? I mean, post hardcore? come on...you sound like an asshole.

Thank you for putting into words the feelings of a lot of people on this board. 

[kj_jive]

Anytime man

[Chris Misfit]

Chris Misfit do you ever shut the fuck up?  Why can nobody ever be right?  Why is it that you have to always correct everyone and talk about how much fucking musical knowledge you have

Right. If someone came on here and said that GnR and Limp Bizkit were of the same musical genre, you'd fucking say it wasn't. So you shut the fuck up. I'm not the first person in the world who corrects people.

Post Hardcore is a form of music. What? I don't listen to it, but I know it exists. You're the one whos calling generic pop punk, emo. You're talking about a sub-genre, and getting annoyed with me because I brought up another? Hmm.

Thank you for putting into words the feelings of a lot of people on this board.

Fuck it out yer arse. You don't even have any friends here. Just because I've proved you wrong time and time again. Anyway, it's not me who ignores the thread when I'm wrong.

Nice to see you had to wait until someone else stood up to me. Coward.

[Dave_Rose]

oh I agree Emo people think there music is the real deal it sucks so bad

Right. I bet you listen to some shit too. It is real music. How is it not. Wind yer neck in and grow up.

I was just pointing across the think the music totally rules and it annoys I think you shouldn't run you're mouth its not what this board is about

[Dave_Rose]

Chris Misfit do you ever shut the fuck up?? Why can nobody ever be right?? Why is it that you have to always correct everyone and talk about how much fucking musical knowledge you have

Right. If someone came on here and said that GnR and Limp Bizkit were of the same musical genre, you'd fucking say it wasn't. So you shut the fuck up. I'm not the first person in the world who corrects people.

Post Hardcore is a form of music. What? I don't listen to it, but I know it exists. You're the one whos calling generic pop punk, emo. You're talking about a sub-genre, and getting annoyed with me because I brought up another? Hmm.

Thank you for putting into words the feelings of a lot of people on this board.

Fuck it out yer arse. You don't even have any friends here. Just because I've proved you wrong time and time again. Anyway, it's not me who ignores the thread when I'm wrong.

Nice to see you had to wait until someone else stood up to me. Coward.

fuck sake grow up

[R4tfink]

OH MY GOD!!!

Chris Misfit do you ever shut the fuck up?? Why can nobody ever be right?? Why is it that you have to always correct everyone and talk about how much fucking musical knowledge you have? I know what emo is, what it sounds like and what bands are classified as emo now.? I don't really care that you have a musical sub-genre for every single little band out there.? I mean, post hardcore? come on...you sound like an asshole.

Ouch!

I live with the guy and hes taught me more in a year than ive learnt in a lifetime.

Post Hardcore - The Hope Conspiracy, although some would label them Metal-Core.

Thank you for putting into words the feelings of a lot of people on this board.

Id like these people to show their faces and speak up...if you have a problem with someone, dont whisper it to each other in silent little girl group's....tell us who you are?
If you dont want to do it on the board..do it by PM's, but for godsake dont beat around the bush...tell the fucking world.
I bet no one says anything at all, cus unlike Chris Misfit, they havent got the balls to say anything to his face..or in this instance via a fucking message board.
Hey..why not start a "I hate Chris Misfit thread as hes prooved me wrong countless times" thread and see how many people respond? Im sure Chris wouldnt mind, in fact i think he would love having the chance to humiliate you a few more times.

Anytime man

Pathetic.
Get a room you two.

Emo? I dont like it..however, i like Killswitch Engage who have been labelled Emo Metal which seems to be another sub genre doing the rounds that you can place Avenged Sevenfold into also...both bands i like.
Its good to mix things up, but with the amount of genre's and sub genres we have these days...is anybody really right or wrong for classifying a band?

[kj_jive]

First of all, let's not pretend that Misfit isn't an asshole.  There's a way to talk to and correct people without being a dick.

Secondly, Dashboard is emo.

Also, I do think that overclassifying bands is problematic.  There's no need to create genre's and sub-genre's for ever single band out there.  Why do you have to generalize and group bands together perfectly?  I realize that Limp and Gn'r are different genres but nitpicking about crappy emo is totally different.  Oh and i realize that post-hardcore is a genre but it sounds very pretentious and ridiculous, like some music nerd hanging out in his vintage vinyl store discussing deleted Echo and the Bunnymen B-sides.

Finally...ah i guess that's it

[Chris Misfit]

Secondly, Dashboard is emo.

Also, I do think that overclassifying bands is problematic.  There's no need to create genre's and sub-genre's for ever single band out there.

I'm laughing at this. Wipe the shite from your mouth.

[  I realize that Limp and Gn'r are different genres but nitpicking about crappy emo is totally different.

And there's as much difference between Rites Of Spring and Dashboard. Which was my point.

[kj_jive]

Nobody cares Chris....

once again you've ruined a perfectly good thread with your award winning personality...thanks!

[N.I.B]

jesus people can we get back on topic and have peace? read jarmo's rules for fucks sake.

[Lady Livin]

they are on topic. it'd be easier to understand and accept the "sub-genres" and classifications of emo if we actually gave enough shit about it. ie, we don't. mister misfit likes to grab any chance he can at enlightening us about this, but somehow has no luck.

[Chris Misfit]

ie, we don't. mister misfit likes to grab any chance he can at enlightening us about this, but somehow has no luck.

Number of threads Misfit has started regarding Emo: 0.

[Mattman]

Fuck it out yer arse. You don't even have any friends here. Just because I've proved you wrong time and time again. Anyway, it's not me who ignores the thread when I'm wrong.

Well then, Socrates, why don't you give me an example?? Your main technique of debate is to tell someone that they're a fucking idiot because they don't care about the subtle differences between post-hardcore emo thrash punk metal, and post-hardcore emo thrash pop metal, or whatever.? You may have a lot of valid points to make, but you need to learn how to express them in a way so that you don't look like you're trying to be the big kid on the schoolyard, so to speak.

And what difference does it make if I don't have any friends on the board?? I guess unlike you, I have friends (and a life) outside of this message board, so I don't need to rely on it for my fun.

Nice to see you had to wait until someone else stood up to me. Coward.

Again, you're getting all worked up over what some random stranger posted on a message board.? Relax.?

I know I've posted at least one rant against you that was similar to what kj_live posted, so you're wrong anyway about me having to "wait until someone else stood up to you."

"Coward"?? What are we, 18th century pirates?? Why don't you challenge me to a duel while you're at it?  This is so stupid.  Speaking of Jarmo's rules...what's it gonna take to ban you, Chris?? Most people, having dished out as many straight-up insults to other members as you would have been banned long ago.? Could it be because you're a moderator?? I see...so it's "do as I say", not "do as I do."

[Lady Livin]

ie, we don't. mister misfit likes to grab any chance he can at enlightening us about this, but somehow has no luck.

Number of threads Misfit has started regarding Emo: 0.

thankfully, you guys are forgetting Bring you to your knees, that hardcore one that just put the goddamn nail on the coffin of how much i despise that genre.

Yes. But you're forgetting that only one band on the CD are Hardcore, the rest are metal, so you're comments are ignorable. Do not get metal confused with punk.

[Chris Misfit]

Alice, honey. You kept that. How adoreable.

Matt, to admin.

[Lady Livin]

it's called going back in history, don't flatter yourself (again).

[LionGoddess]

This thread had promise, but like alot of threads it got way off track into insult land. It is possible to have a thread on this or any other message board without people insulting each other? Chris I think it is cool that you the level of musical knowledge that you do and that you listen to music outside of the mainstream. But people have a point when they say that you can't add anything without insulting someone. You make a lot of valid points that get tainted in the way that you present them. You can educate someone without making them feel like a dumbass. Just because someone doesn't have your knowledge level about music doesn't mean that they're a dumbass.