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« on: October 09, 2004, 03:55:30 AM »

Manowar: Achilles, Agony and Ecstasy In Eight Parts. 28:38

This song, to me, is the definition of epic. 7-10 minutes isn't epic, it's just long. Wink It would be so funny hearing a radio station play an ultra long song like this! The song isn't actually divided into 8 parts, but I like it so much, I don't want to skip any parts of it. It's full of substance, not long just for the sake of being long. Songs like these dispell the notion that rock or metal only has 4 minute, 3 chord boringness.

Honorable mentions:  Venom: At War With Satan. 19:56
                                   Iced Earth: Dante's Inferno. 16:30
                                   Burzum: Det Som En Gang Var (What Once Was). 14:21

Here's a request: I would love to hear an epic punk song. Something very political or inflammatory, over 10 minutes long. I know a punk song is considered very long after 5 minutes, but there has to be some punk band that has played a super long song. Lame punk bands whose songs all sound the same do not count. Wink
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2004, 04:44:09 AM »

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Lame punk bands whose songs all sound the same do not count.

Don't start me Barzum boy. You're being a silly def metaller. Y'see, when people say that about your music, you'll be like "It's actually quite good music" and they'd be like "It's just noise, it sounds all the same, grunt grunt grunt" and I'm like "If it wasn't for punk your music wouldn't have existed".

Green Day just did a song that lasts like 10 minutes. Inglorious by the Wildhearts. I think NoFX did a whole CD without stopping. Pff, punk isn't for hippy, touching, epic moments, you big girl. It's for men.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2004, 04:54:41 AM »

 rofl Burzum's (not Barzum!!) songs sound nothing like each other! And the "Green Day" and "it's for men" comments...  rofl rofl rofl

I was thinking more of S.O.D. and Napalm Death, and of course Motorhead. Punk and punk influenced songs tend to be very short, 'tis a fact. Green Day, ugh, don't start...

I'll check out NoFX sometime.
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2004, 05:19:09 AM »

Don't check out NoFX, they're shit. They're a Green Day type band. I only mentioned Green Day because they're the only band I can think of that's done a song over 3 minutes.

Napalm Death have the shortest song of all time!

If you like the crossover stuff check out DRI - Crossover. Also Suicidal Tendencies early stuff and the mid 80's Agnostic Front stuff, Sick Of It All and you fucking need Blood For Blood (anything off the White Trash album) also Knuckledust are brutal.

I think you'd really like Stampin' Ground, they're Slayer-ish, with a dose of Metalcore. Try their song Officer Down.

But that's all pushing metal. Real punk shit like Zeke, The Dontcares, Assert, Homebrew, Crass, Dangerfields, DYS, Warzone. That's where it's at baby.

Again, don't think you're gonna find an epic punk band.
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2004, 06:13:07 AM »

Master of Puppets is an epic one. Just because it's 'only' 8 minutes-long it doesn't mean it isn't epic.
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2004, 07:34:53 AM »

If length equates epic, then..
Devil Doll - The Sacrilege of Fatal Arms 74:16
The Flower Kings - Garden of Dreams 59:57

Otherwise the most epic songs I can think of are Pain of Salvation's Beyond the Pale and Iter Impius. Metropolis pt. 1 by Dream Theater is also pretty epic. And of course our very own Estranged.
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2004, 09:03:05 AM »

jethro tull's song thick as a brick (actually the album, but the album is only one song) is quite epic.

more folkish though.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2004, 10:01:54 AM »

Well the original version of November Rain is said to be 25 minutes long. Wouldn't it be great if it would surface someday?
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2004, 04:12:34 PM »

Yeah, the epic November Rain will probably be released as a "lost" song or something when Axl runs out of money. And I do think the term epic does depend on length. No 3 minute song would be called epic.

Also, it is true Thick as a Brick's album cover and the "newspaper" format took longer to make than the album itself?  hihi It would be interesting to see Chinese Democracy have weird features like that.
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2004, 04:37:29 PM »

Pink Floyd did some pretty epic songs. These are the ones that stand out to me:

Atom Heart Mother  23:44
Echoes 23:27
A Saucerful Of Secrets 11:57
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2004, 04:54:57 PM »

Monster Magnet - Tab....25 - 32:09
Monster Magnet - Forbidden Planet - 16:09
Monster Magnet - Snoopy (Unreleased Demo) - 10:39
Monster Magnet - Longhair - 12:27
Monster Magnet - Vertigo - 11:15
The Doors - The End - 11:40
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Free Bird - 10:06
Bon Jovi - Dry County - 9:52
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2004, 12:29:41 AM »

For me it's  Alice Copper's - Only Women Bleed. It's just so damned epic! ok
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2004, 01:50:35 AM »

My vote goes to "Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres: Prelude/Apollo Bringer of Wisdom/Dion" By Rush...God even the title is epic!  But no, its a great song off of their classic album, Hemispheres.

Honorable mention would have to go to Fatomas', Delirium Codia clocking in at a whopping 74 minutes!  It's only one track and its not exactly music...but it certainly is epic...and scary.
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2004, 12:57:03 PM »

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Don't start me Barzum boy. You're being a silly def metaller. Y'see, when people say that about your music, you'll be like "It's actually quite good music" and they'd be like "It's just noise, it sounds all the same, grunt grunt grunt" and I'm like "If it wasn't for punk your music wouldn't have existed".

Green Day just did a song that lasts like 10 minutes. Inglorious by the Wildhearts. I think NoFX did a whole CD without stopping. Pff, punk isn't for hippy, touching, epic moments, you big girl. It's for men.

Another abusive post from Chris Misfit!!!!    Shocked

He doesn't like punk, get over it, state your point and get on with it, don't start abusing people. I know you'll abuse me when you read it but I don't care.
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2004, 05:06:42 PM »

Hey, I happen to like crossover, and I'm a huge Skrewdriver fan.  Tongue

Anyway, what about non-epic long songs? I was thinking of some of the songs Opeth make. They're long for no reason; they really should be divided up into smaller songs. ...And Justice for All (title track), for example, is just too long. What so called epic songs are too long?
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2004, 05:33:12 PM »

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Another abusive post from Chris Misfit!!!!

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He doesn't like punk, get over it, state your point and get on with it, don't start abusing people. I know you'll abuse me when you read it but I don't care

he has actually downloaded some punk stuff off me before, so I reckon you should shut the fuck up.

Useless attempt mate. Nearly as good as "All irish are retards". Now fuck off back to the BNP forums or whever you came from.
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2004, 07:33:21 PM »

I was thinking of some of the songs Opeth make. They're long for no reason; they really should be divided up into smaller songs.

Umm.. no? Opeth songs are perfect the way they are, can you give me some examples of songs that should be shorter? Opeth have found an original way to create interesting progressive metal, and the fact that Mikael sings both clean vocals and death metal vocals is an effective way to add variety and dynamics into the music. I honestly can't imagine how you'd cut those masterful compositions.
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2004, 05:35:26 AM »

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he has actually downloaded some punk stuff off me before, so I reckon you should shut the fuck up.

Useless attempt mate. Nearly as good as "All irish are retards". Now fuck off back to the BNP forums or whever you came from.

Haha, good one. You have some serious problems and I reckon you need to see a consellor or something.

OK, he's downloaded some punk stuff off you before but from his post it looked to me like he didn't like punk. And i wasn't sticking up for the guy i was just saying that all your posts seem to have some form of abuse somewhere in them.

All Irish are retards?? I don't remember saying that, but you certainly don't do anyhting to dispell that myth. And the BNP forums, no thanks, 'cos if you knew me you would know I'm not racist so how about you shut the fuck up!
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2004, 06:18:12 AM »

OK, he's downloaded some punk stuff off you before but from his post it looked to me like he didn't like punk. And i wasn't sticking up for the guy i was just saying that all your posts seem to have some form of abuse somewhere in them.



He brought up punk in his first post. he mentioned crossover and grind in his second post. It's not hard to grasp.

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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2004, 10:37:14 AM »

A track being say 20 minutes long doesn't neccessarily make it epic, although epic songs are obviously long but they also need to be good and have depth to them to make them epic. A good example is Master of Puppets which is about 8 and a half minutes long but is still more epic than most of the ones that are an hour long.
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2004, 01:31:20 PM »

OK, he's downloaded some punk stuff off you before but from his post it looked to me like he didn't like punk. And i wasn't sticking up for the guy i was just saying that all your posts seem to have some form of abuse somewhere in them.



He brought up punk in his first post. he mentioned crossover and grind in his second post. It's not hard to grasp.

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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2004, 10:50:06 PM »

Dream Theater- six degrees of inner turbulance  clockin in at over 40 minutes


ive never heard it but thats a fucking long song
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2004, 10:36:27 AM »

If length equates epic, then..
Devil Doll - The Sacrilege of Fatal Arms 74:16
The Flower Kings - Garden of Dreams 59:57

That's not epic, that's a lenght to sleep into
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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2004, 11:08:56 AM »

That's not epic, that's a lenght to sleep into

You've obviously never heard The Sacrilege of Fatal Arms.. Such art will grasp you so powerfully, that sleep is the last thing on your mind.
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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2004, 12:21:48 PM »

I've have nothing against it, I haven't even listened to it, It's just that i don't find such large songs enjoyable!!!. even operas have shorter cuts. hihi
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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2004, 03:20:59 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2004, 05:05:36 PM »

That would be Bohemian raphsody, it have a ballad, opera, rock, what else can anyone ask?? it's unique and it's the best song ever!  peace
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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2004, 07:05:55 PM »

Dream Theater- six degrees of inner turbulance  clockin in at over 40 minutes


ive never heard it but thats a fucking long song

I have this one... It's split into 7 parts.

I really like the instrumental "When The Water Breaks" (17 minutes) by the Liquid Tension Experiment....

and NoFx's "The Decline" (18 minutes) is fucking great, no matter what Chris Misfit says.
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« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2004, 03:23:13 AM »

I really like the instrumental "When The Water Breaks" (17 minutes) by the Liquid Tension Experiment....

You should check out part IV of 'A Pleasant Shade of Gray' by Fates Warning, the part at the beginning (and at the end) of When the Water Breaks is very similar to that song from 2 min 40 sec on.
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« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2004, 07:55:17 AM »


Here's a request: I would love to hear an epic punk song. Something very political or inflammatory, over 10 minutes long. I know a punk song is considered very long after 5 minutes, but there has to be some punk band that has played a super long song. Lame punk bands whose songs all sound the same do not count. Wink

Dude go listen to the NOFX ep. The Declined.
19 Minutes non-stop, it's the best thing i've ever heard. ok ok
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« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2004, 07:48:30 PM »

I already mentioned that.

PS - NOFX are shit. shit.

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I'm right.

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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2004, 07:43:34 AM »

Metallica's "Mercyful Fate" medley off the Garage, Inc. album clocks in at over 11 minutes.

"...And Justice For All" (the song) could fit into this category.

I don't own many songs that could be constituted as 'epic'.
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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2004, 12:11:51 PM »

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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2004, 11:38:52 AM »

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Sorry dude, you're mistaken; this isn't the "Most Overrated Song Ever"-thread? Tongue
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Sorry dude, you're mistaken; this isn't the "Most Overrated Song Ever"-thread? Tongue

Oh no, I'm the one who should be apologizing man.

After I gave the correct answer this discussion was over.? Thus rendering your above post null and void.

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« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2004, 03:26:49 PM »

How about Epic by faith No more?  hihi
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« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2004, 03:33:26 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2004, 04:43:43 PM »

Dream Theater's A Change of Seasons is over 23 minutes, I don't know the exact length.

Also DT'S Metropolis II: Scenes From a Memory, which is a concept album, almost 80 minutes long.
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« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2004, 07:02:48 AM »

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Sorry dude, you're mistaken; this isn't the "Most Overrated Song Ever"-thread? Tongue

I don't think it's overrated, for me it's one of the best songs of all time
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