In defense of "The Spaghetti Incident?"

[//JK75]

I have read some posts recently and saw too many people don't like TSI, but I think the album was made to play tribute to old punk bands and that makes the album a collectors issue that requires you like the punk rock old sound... Like the band says in the booklet, you must hear the originals...

I understand that punk is a style that only a few people like, but you can't judge TSI as a bad album like some people do, because if you listen to the originals (and I have done it) the GNR versions are amazing... I like the old punk rock and I love some of the original versions and the music of some of that bands and I really love The Spaguetti Incident !!

Someone agree ?

Pd: in the same way... I love the "Neurotic Outsiders" album with Duff and Matt.

[hyperionmax2003]

The album was okay, but the fans wanted something new and refreshing after UYI, not a bunch of punk covers.  (I think Atttiude was the best btw)

[blasphemer]

yep you are right. I think alot of people take this as a serious album. And it is not, get that thru ur thickheads. This was a album they just threw out for fun to tide over the hardcore fans until there next album came out. Which unfortunalty it never came due to reasons we all know. ?All these songs are much better than the oringinals and are great.

[nesquick]

TSI was not a bad album, but at the time it was released it just didn't fit in the musical context. Let's face it, it was a failure when it was released. It happens. That's not a drama.

[Mr Cowbell ?]

BANDS ARE JUDGED MOSTLYON THE LAST ALBUM THEY MAKE IF THE ALBUM ISNT A MAINSTREAM SUCCESS. the problem with TSI for me and many gnr fans is, the album was suppose to "hold me over" until the new album, and since it has been 12 years since TSI and I can find it for $5.99 in the best buy bargain bin, people take it as a failure, joke or not this was the final product GnR has offered us and it is something GnR fans will take serious

[//JK75]

The album was okay, but the fans wanted something new and refreshing after UYI, not a bunch of punk covers.? (I think Atttiude was the best btw)

They released TSI in 93... shortly after UYI world Tour ends, they recorded it during the tour and it was and album that can be said that was released for making the wait for a new album a little easier, considering that Axl was thinking in a 2 years break.. but like "blasphemer" said, the new album never come.

By that time you could say it was new and refreshing for the hardcore fans... to me it was !
When it was released I bought the album immediately and I knew it was a covers album and it rocked !

[audjon]

What was disappointing for me, was that it wasn't a punk rock cover album at all - there were only 4 or 5 punk rock songs, the rest was glam, garage, metal and even doo wop.

[//JK75]

TSI was not a bad album, but at the time it was released it just didn't fit in the musical context. Let's face it, it was a failure when it was released. It happens. That's not a drama.

Do you know a covers album that "fit in the musical context" of the time ? ? ?.... I think a covers album use to be "old" songs played by another artist... that can't fit in the musical context... specially a punk cover album. It is for hardcore fans and if all the hardcore fans has a copy of it, it was a success !

And I can say that if you don't have it, you're not a hardcore GNR fan. I don't think Axl was expecting TSI to be a mass success like Appetite. So that isn't a failure.

[//JK75]

What was disappointing for me, was that it wasn't a punk rock cover album at all - there were only 4 or 5 punk rock songs, the rest was glam, garage, metal and even doo wop.

You got a good reason... But i think it wasn't 4 or 5.
I would say that at least 10 are punk tracks... well, that's what I feel.

I love the album cause is mostly HEAVY and GNR is good whet it turns heavy.

[ryan_of_lax]

It was just the wrong thing at the wrong time.
It's ok... But the musical world had totally changed since UYI's.

How did GnR react to this change?
A half assed set of cover songs.

It's almost a disgrace that the old band went out with this CD.

It's pretty good... but definitely not something that a band should be remembered by.

[jimmythegent]

I have read some posts recently and saw too many people don't like TSI, but I think the album was made to play tribute to old punk bands and that makes the album a collectors issue that requires you like the punk rock old sound... Like the band says in the booklet, you must hear the originals...

I understand that punk is a style that only a few people like, but you can't judge TSI as a bad album like some people do, because if you listen to the originals (and I have done it) the GNR versions are amazing... I like the old punk rock and I love some of the original versions and the music of some of that bands and I really love The Spaguetti Incident !!

Someone agree ?

Pd: in the same way... I love the "Neurotic Outsiders" album with Duff and Matt.

Punk is all good, but the way GNR played on this CD is far from punk - many would say they 'bastardised' the punk sound so you could argue that it's a 'punk tribute' record but not a 'punk' record..

My problem with the album is that it sounds lacklustre. Sure they all turn out but you can hear the indifference in the playing - theres not that vital passion that is GNR trademark.

The idea sounded good on paper at the time, as GNR had much ground to claim back in the cred stakes from the bloated stadium period but it equated to little more than a fizzle and another sign that GNR were headed for a break down

[Falcon]

Punk is all good, but the way GNR played on this CD is far from punk - many would say they 'bastardised' the punk sound so you could argue that it's a 'punk tribute' record but not a 'punk' record..

My problem with the album is that it sounds lacklustre. Sure they all turn out but you can hear the indifference in the playing - theres not that vital passion that is GNR trademark.

The idea sounded good on paper at the time, as GNR had much ground to claim back in the cred stakes from the bloated stadium period but it equated to little more than a fizzle and another sign that GNR were headed for a break down

The Gent is on the mark.

I'm a huge fan of punk rock and this collection of tunes (Nazareth???) was an obvious reach at credibility and publicty (see Manson tune) .? And a bad one at that.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, this was absolutely one of the worst moves ever done by a band at the height of their popularity.

[Gunner80]

I could give a shit what people think! TSI is great.

[metallex78]

I have read some posts recently and saw too many people don't like TSI, but I think the album was made to play tribute to old punk bands and that makes the album a collectors issue that requires you like the punk rock old sound... Like the band says in the booklet, you must hear the originals...

I understand that punk is a style that only a few people like, but you can't judge TSI as a bad album like some people do, because if you listen to the originals (and I have done it) the GNR versions are amazing... I like the old punk rock and I love some of the original versions and the music of some of that bands and I really love The Spaguetti Incident !!

Someone agree ?

Pd: in the same way... I love the "Neurotic Outsiders" album with Duff and Matt.

I agree, TSI has some great tracks, I absolutely love Raw Power, New Rose and Attitude and I think if anyone likes GN'R's versions of those 3 songs they'll love the Neurotic Outsiders album. It's just straight-up rock with a bit of a punk attitude, it has nice production too, the guitars and Matts drumming sounds just as it should - loud and in your face!

I really think that VR should play songs like Raw Power, New Rose & Attitude live, because Duff sings them really well, as well as he can sing anyway! hehe

[Mikkamakka]

I think there are monments when GN'R shows what it was (Ain't it fun?, Black Leather, I don't care about you), but the rest is mediocre or below mediocre/crap (SIDHY, New Rose, Can't Put..., Look at your game girl). This album wouldn't be a problem for GN'R IF the new album came out in 1994. But we all know that didn't (hasn't) happened.

[gandra]

The album was okay, but the fans wanted something new and refreshing after UYI, not a bunch of punk covers.? (I think Atttiude was the best btw)

totally agree with you.Fans wanted something new,and stil want something new

[Izzy]

I don't think i've even listened to the album all the way through....

[jarmo]

People seem to take this album way too seriously.


I don't think it ever was meant to be taken as a follow-up album to the UYI albums. It was just something they did on days off to let fans hear songs the band themselves liked.



/jarmo

[Cocaine__tongue]

People seem to take this album way too seriously.


I don't think it ever was meant to be taken as a follow-up album to the UYI albums. It was just something they did on days off to let fans hear songs the band themselves liked.



/jarmo

That's my same thought. And I also happen to like the album a lot. Ok, it's not afd, lies or uyi's, but it still has some gnr's style in it and that makes it a great record imo!!

[Dave_Rose]

I personally think this album quality!