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« on: July 24, 2005, 04:30:04 PM »

Lance Armstrong wins seventh consecutive and last Tour de France



By JOHN LEICESTER, Associated Press Writer
July 24, 2005

PARIS (AP) -- One last time, "The Star-Spangled Banner'' rang out over the Champs-Elysees in honor of Lance Armstrong.

One last time, on the podium against the backdrop of the Arc de Triomphe, the cancer survivor who became the greatest cyclist in Tour de France history slipped into the leader's yellow jersey Sunday. This time, it was the winner's jersey, for an unprecedented seventh consecutive year in the world's most grueling race.

He held his yellow cap over his heart as the American anthem played, and his twin 3-year-old daughters, Grace and Isabelle, wore matching yellow dresses.

"Vive le Tour! Forever,'' Armstrong said.

Vive Lance, the once but not future champion.

It was the end of Armstrong's amazing career, and in retiring a winner he achieved a rare feat in sports -- going out on top. He said his decision was final and that he walks away with no regrets.

"I'm finished,'' Armstrong told a motorcycle-borne TV reporter as he rode a victory lap of the Champs-Elysees, waving to the crowds and accompanied by another rider waving the Stars and Stripes.

On Monday, he'll be on a beach in the south of France, ``with a beer, having a blast,'' he said.

Before that, though, he couldn't resist a parting shot at ``the people who don't believe in cycling, the cynics and the skeptics'' who suspect that doping is rife and fueled his dominance of the past seven years.

"I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. But this is a hell of a race,'' he said. ``You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets -- this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it.''

Race organizers afforded the 33-year-old Texan the unprecedented honor of speaking from the podium. And that came after an unusual ending to the overall race he comfortably won by more than 4 1/2 minutes.

With the pavement slick from rain, and Armstrong comfortably ahead, he was declared the winner with 30 miles to go. The rare decision was made rather than risk having a mad dash to the finish in treacherous conditions.

Riders were still racing at the time, with eight laps of the Champs-Elysees to complete, and the stage competition continued.

Alexandre Vinokourov of Kazakhstan eventually won the final stage, with Armstrong finishing safely in the pack to win the Tour by 4 minutes, 40 seconds over Ivan Basso of Italy. The 1997 Tour winner, Jan Ullrich, was third, 6:21 back.

"What he did was sensational,'' Ullrich said.

Looking toward a Tour without him, Armstrong said to his challengers, "It's up to you guys.''

One hand on his handlebars, the other holding a flute of champagne, Armstrong toasted his teammates as he pedaled into Paris to collect his crown. At different points, he held up seven fingers -- one for each win -- and a piece of paper with the number 7 on it.

Looking gaunt, his cheeks hollow after riding 2,232.7 miles across France and its mountains for three weeks, Armstrong still could smile at the end.

President Bush called to congratulate his fellow Texan for ``a great triumph of the human spirit,'' saying the victory was ``a testament not only to your athletic talent, but to your courage.''

Armstrong's 5-year-old son, Luke, delivered a different message.

"Daddy, can we go home and play?'' the boy whispered to him as he stepped off the podium.

Armstrong choked up on the podium and rock star girlfriend Sheryl Crow, wearing a yellow halter top, cried during the ceremony.

"This is the way he wanted to finish his career, so it's very emotional,'' she said.

Armstrong set the record last year with his sixth win -- one more than Frenchmen Jacques Anquetil and Bernard Hinault, Belgian Eddy Merckx and Spaniard Miguel Indurain -- and No. 7 confirmed him as one of the greatest cyclists ever.

Armstrong mentioned Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan and Andre Agassi as personal inspirations.

"Those are guys that you look up to you, guys that have been at the top of their game for a long time,'' he said.

As for his accomplishments, he said, ``I can't be in charge of dictating what it says or how you remember it.

"In five, 10, 15, 20 years, we'll see what the legacy is. But I think we did come along and revolutionize the cycling part, the training part, the equipment part. We're fanatics.''

Armstrong's last ride as a professional -- the closing 89.8-mile 21st stage into Paris from Corbeil-Essonnes south of the capital -- was not without incident.

Three of his teammates slipped and crashed on the road coming around a bend just before they crossed the River Seine. Armstrong, right behind them, braked and skidded into the fallen riders, using his right foot to steady himself and stay on the bike.

His teammates, wearing special shirts with a band of yellow on right shoulder, recovered and led him up the Champs-Elysees at the front of the pack.

Vinokourov surged ahead of the main pack to win the last stage. He had been touted as one of Armstrong's main rivals at the start of the Tour on July 2, but like others was overwhelmed by him.

Armstrong donned his 83rd and last yellow jersey in Paris. Only Merckx -- with 111 -- won more.

Armstrong's departure begins a new era for the 102-year-old Tour, with no clear successor. His riding and his inspiring comeback from testicular cancer attracted new fans -- especially in the United States -- to the race, as much a part of French summers as sun cream, forest fires and traffic jams down to the Cote d'Azur.

Millions turned out each year, cheering, picnicking and sipping wine by the side of the road, to watch Armstrong flash past in the yellow jersey, the famed "maillot jaune.''

Cancer survivors, autograph hunters and admirers pushed, shoved and yelled "Lance! Lance!'' outside his bus in the mornings for a smile, a signature or a just word from the champion.

He had bodyguards to keep the crowds at bay -- ruffling feathers of cycling purists who sniffed at his "American'' ways.

Some spectators would shout obscenities or "Dope!'' To some, his comeback from cancer and his uphill bursts of speed that left rivals gasping in the Alps and Pyrenees were too good to be true.

Armstrong insisted that he simply trained, worked and prepared harder than anyone. He was drug-tested hundreds of times, in and out of competition, but was never found to have committed any infractions.

Armstrong came into this Tour saying he had a dual objective -- winning the race and the hearts of French fans. He was more relaxed, forthcoming and talkative than last year, when the pressure was on to be the first six-time winner.

Some fans hung the Stars and Stripes on barriers that lined the Champs-Elysees on Sunday. Around France, some also urged Armstrong to go for an eighth win next year-- holding up placards and daubing their appeals in paint on the road.

Armstrong, however, wanted to go out on top -- and not let advancing age get the better of him.

"At some point you turn 34, or you turn 35, the others make a big step up, and when your age catches up, you take a big step down,'' he said Saturday after he won the final time trial, his only stage victory this year. "So next could be the year if I continued that I lose that five minutes. We are never going to know.''

Associated Press Writers Jamey Keaten, Jocelyn Gecker and Jerome Pugmire contributed to this report from Paris.

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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2005, 12:09:42 AM »

An unbeleivable accomplishment -  a truly great athlete
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2005, 08:50:35 PM »

An unbeleivable accomplishment -? a truly great athlete

What else can you say?  Awesome!  ok

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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2005, 06:45:25 PM »



Great for him. Congratulations..

Didn't a writer publish a book recently about Armstrong taking EPO and other performance increase drug?

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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2005, 03:30:30 PM »

good for him and all... but thank god he's retiring so we don't have to hear about him again.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2005, 05:05:44 AM »

The Biggest french Sport newspaper (L'?quipe) just published the results a long investigation, and they are able to proove that Amstrong did use drugs since 1999 (not sure about the final year).

?____? shocking !...... NOT Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2005, 05:12:51 AM »

The news hit every sports newsroom. Of course he took EPO, give me a break, no human being can ride like he did all those years without enhancing his resistance and performance.

ESPN reports - through AP, http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=cycling&id=2140848

Armstrong denies report that he took EPO during 1999 Tour de France
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PARIS -- Lance Armstrong denied a report Tuesday in the French sports daily L'Equipe that said the seven-time Tour de France champion used the performance-enhancing drug EPO to help win his first Tour in 1999.

"Unfortunately, the witch hunt continues and tomorrow's article is nothing short of tabloid journalism," Armstrong wrote on his Web site Monday night. "I will simply restate what I have said many times: I have never taken performance-enhancing drugs."

L'Equipe devoted four pages to its allegations, with the front-page headline "The Armstrong Lie." The paper said that signs of EPO use were found in Armstrong's urine six times during the 1999 race.

The governing body of world cycling did not begin using a urine test for EPO until 2001. For years, it had been impossible to detect the drug, called erythropoietin, which builds endurance by boosting the production of oxygen-rich red blood cells.

The tests on 1999 urine samples were done last year to help scientists improve their detection methods, the paper said.

L'Equipe said it matched anonymous urine samples from that Tour with medical statements signed by doctors, claiming that there were "characteristic, undeniable and consequent" signs of EPO in Armstrong's urine tests.

The newspaper said the tests were carried out by the national anti-doping laboratory in Chatenay-Malabry. An official at the lab declined to comment on the report.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2005, 08:17:42 AM »

i was delighted for lance to win it, especially after the cancer and the never ending drugs allegations

at the same time tho, i wish he had to be beaten cos next year, whoever wins it will know they only won it cos lance wasnt there
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2005, 02:47:43 PM »

Silly french! Every year it's the saem thing. Their just pissed cause an American came over and for 7 straight years dominated a European sport in their own country. They are going to try forever to link him with a banned substance. They just need to accept the fact that Lance is the greatest cyclist ever and nothing they can do can ever change that. So they just need to shut the fuck up once and for all!!!!! rant rant rant rant rant
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2005, 06:52:39 AM »

Silly french! Every year it's the saem thing. Their just pissed cause an American came over and for 7 straight years dominated a European sport in their own country. They are going to try forever to link him with a banned substance. They just need to accept the fact that Lance is the greatest cyclist ever and nothing they can do can ever change that. So they just need to shut the fuck up once and for all!!!!! rant rant rant rant rant

you'll have to understand that THIS IS NOT A SPORT. they're all on drugs. and the Tour de France coordinators are so aware of that, the tour brings so much money that will love the bikers to race more and more, like for 5 months if they can, and if drugs are the solution, they're ok with it.

but yes, french are silly.
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2005, 04:27:57 PM »

Silly french! Every year it's the saem thing. Their just pissed cause an American came over and for 7 straight years dominated a European sport in their own country. They are going to try forever to link him with a banned substance. They just need to accept the fact that Lance is the greatest cyclist ever and nothing they can do can ever change that. So they just need to shut the fuck up once and for all!!!!! rant rant rant rant rant

You're absolutely right, my friend!  yes
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2005, 05:07:45 PM »

Silly french! Every year it's the saem thing. Their just pissed cause an American came over and for 7 straight years dominated a European sport in their own country. They are going to try forever to link him with a banned substance. They just need to accept the fact that Lance is the greatest cyclist ever and nothing they can do can ever change that. So they just need to shut the fuck up once and for all!!!!! rant rant rant rant rant

Man, you know it's not true. Let's not turn that into a US vs. French thing. It's very obvious that Armstrong (and most cyclists) took drugs. There's no way a normal human being can win the Tour de France without taking drugs, even if they practice a lot. This challenge is insane, and some cyclists died trying to win it (or other circuits in other countries).

Among the cyclist who took drugs, yes Armstrong was the best, but was it because of his training and skills, or because he took more drugs than the rest? Unfortunately we'll never know.
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2005, 09:58:04 PM »

Man, you know it's not true. Let's not turn that into a US vs. French thing. It's very obvious that Armstrong (and most cyclists) took drugs. There's no way a normal human being can win the Tour de France without taking drugs, even if they practice a lot. This challenge is insane, and some cyclists died trying to win it (or other circuits in other countries).

Among the cyclist who took drugs, yes Armstrong was the best, but was it because of his training and skills, or because he took more drugs than the rest? Unfortunately we'll never know.

So, what your saying is that you'll just discredit Lance without one shred of evidence by saying that no normal human could accomplish what he's accomplished. You aren't even giving any factual information to back up your claim. You say he took drugs.  I'm sorry but I cannot find any facts to back up that statement. So who are the cyclist who didn't take drugs? And can you back their innoncence with factual information?

And I didn't turn this into a U.S. vs. French thing. You look at the French papers just during the last Tour. A French cyclist wins a stage and he's claimed a hero and not one time is his name linked with a drug. Not one time. No, because he's a clean cyclist. He's a French hero. Roll Eyes But year after year after year after year it's the same thing, the French and their vendetta towards Lance Armstrong.
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2005, 05:08:03 AM »

Man, you know it's not true. Let's not turn that into a US vs. French thing. It's very obvious that Armstrong (and most cyclists) took drugs. There's no way a normal human being can win the Tour de France without taking drugs, even if they practice a lot. This challenge is insane, and some cyclists died trying to win it (or other circuits in other countries).

Among the cyclist who took drugs, yes Armstrong was the best, but was it because of his training and skills, or because he took more drugs than the rest? Unfortunately we'll never know.

So, what your saying is that you'll just discredit Lance without one shred of evidence by saying that no normal human could accomplish what he's accomplished. You aren't even giving any factual information to back up your claim. You say he took drugs.? I'm sorry but I cannot find any facts to back up that statement. So who are the cyclist who didn't take drugs? And can you back their innoncence with factual information?

And I didn't turn this into a U.S. vs. French thing. You look at the French papers just during the last Tour. A French cyclist wins a stage and he's claimed a hero and not one time is his name linked with a drug. Not one time. No, because he's a clean cyclist. He's a French hero. Roll Eyes But year after year after year after year it's the same thing, the French and their vendetta towards Lance Armstrong.

Will can't give you a proof of anything... L'Equipe just did and it seems you're not eager to read about it ...

And about french cyclists, many used EPO too ... and they are not national heros ... In France you have to know that they are those who adore "Le tour de France" and actually love Lance and those who really don't care about it Wink (a majority in this Forum Wink )
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2005, 07:40:12 AM »

Armstrong says he's victim of 'setup'; WADA to review lab work
By JIM VERTUNO, AP Sports Writer
August 26, 2005

Even facing the most serious drug allegations of his career, Lance Armstrong says he sleeps well at night.

The seven-time Tour de France champion continues to try to beat back reports in the French media that he used a banned blood booster in his first tour victory in 1999. On Thursday, he lashed out at the French lab that produced the findings in question.

"There's a setup here and I'm stuck in the middle of it,'' Armstrong told The Associated Press. "I absolutely do not trust that laboratory,'' he said.

The French sports daily L'Equipe reported Tuesday that new exams on six urine samples Armstrong provided during the 1999 tour resulted in positive results for the red blood cell-booster EPO.

Armstrong's comment came after Dick Pound, head of the World Anti-Doping Agency, said officials had received the lab results and would review them. Armstrong also said that while Pound might trust the lab that tested the samples, ``I certainly don't.''

On Thursday night, Armstrong elaborated on that distrust during an appearance on CNN's "Larry King Live.''

"A guy in a Parisian laboratory opens up your sample, you know, Jean Francois so-and-so, and he tests it -- nobody's there to observe, no protocol was followed -- and then you get a call from a newspaper that says `We found you to be positive six times for EPO.' Well, since when did newspapers start governing sports?''

Although frustrated by the report and the difficulty of proving his case, Armstrong said he sleeps well at night knowing that he's competed drug-free.

"All I can do is come on this stage and tell my story and be honest. I've always done that,'' he said. "Since this stuff's rolled out, I sleep great at night .... I don't have a problem looking at myself in the mirror.''

Armstrong questions the validity of testing samples frozen six years ago, how those samples were handled since, and how he could be expected to defend himself when the only confirming evidence -- the 'A' sample used for the 1999 tests -- no longer exists.

He also charged officials at the suburban Paris lab with violating WADA code for failing to safeguard the anonymity of any remaining 'B' samples it had.


"Nowadays, we all want clean sport,'' Armstrong told King. "And fortunately, an organization called WADA has come along and has really governed the world of anti-doping. They have set about a protocol and a code that everybody has to live by. And (the lab) violated the code several times.''

The French report appears stronger than previous doping allegations raised against Armstrong, said Pound, the WADA chairman.

"There's been an awful lot of rumor and accusation about him for a number of years, always of the he-said, she-said variety. This appears -- I haven't seen the documents myself -- to have some documentary connection. That's a lot more serious. It's got to be taken more seriously,'' Pound said.

"If he had one, you could say it was an aberration,'' Pound said. "When you get up to six, there's got to be some explanation.''

Pound said the lab is accredited by the International Olympic Committee and that he trusts it handled the samples properly. Pound also questioned the need for two samples to confirm a positive test.

"You can count on the fingers of one hand the times a B sample has not confirmed the result of the A sample,'' Pound said. "It's almost always a delaying tactic.''

Armstrong said that contradicts WADA's own drug testing policy.

"For the head of the agency to say he actually doesn't believe in the code ... if your career is riding on the line, wouldn't you want a B sample?'' Armstrong told the AP. "The French have been after (me) forever, and `Whoops!' there's no B sample? The stakes are too high.''

Pound said the lab had asked WADA months ago if the agency was interested in reviewing its findings and that he agreed. He said the agency didn't expect names to be connected to the findings, but only wanted to see if the leftover samples from 1999 would show riders used EPO.

"They said it's simply research,'' Pound said.

Pound said he's waiting for WADA Science Director Olivier Rabin to return from Europe to review the results.

Armstrong told King he was tested dozens of times during all his Tour de France races, and was under exceptional scrutiny -- including right before his final race in June.

"Just a day before the start we had a knock on the door, and the minister of sport had sent a crew down there to collect two samples of urine and two samples of blood,'' Armstrong said. "And we checked around and found out that nobody else in the peloton was tested that day. So I can't say 'witch hunt' loud enough.''

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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2005, 10:54:18 AM »

tour de france or any other tour
is NOT sport
they make the bikers go faster and stronger, because they make money out of it.
if they could make them race for 5 months they would do it, that's 5 months of TV display.

it's all ... fake, fake, fake fake Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2005, 07:28:27 PM »

according to the paper today, armstrong said he mite come out of retirement and win the tour again to "piss the french off", i hope he does
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2005, 09:07:56 PM »

From my understanding, there's no real proof that Armstrong took any drugs.? They've run tests on blood from 1999, that was supposed to be anonymous (yet somehow wasn't), and there was no validation done on the testing, noone overseeing the samples, nothing.? If that is all the evidence there is, then I'd say there's basically no evidence.? Not to mention, every other test done properly shows no signs of any illegal drugs.

And ditto with Shoco, I hope he does too, unless he really is guilty of it, then I hope he loses.? But so far, I don't see any reason to believe he is, other than some faulty testing and some vague concept that he's "too good."

Anyway, I don't believe drugs can make a man that great.
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2005, 06:59:35 PM »

Silly french! Every year it's the saem thing. Their just pissed cause an American came over and for 7 straight years dominated a European sport in their own country. They are going to try forever to link him with a banned substance. They just need to accept the fact that Lance is the greatest cyclist ever and nothing they can do can ever change that. So they just need to shut the fuck up once and for all!!!!! rant rant rant rant rant

Lance is not the greatest cyclist ever! Roll Eyes, he is probably the best Tour de france cyclist but most certainly not the best cyclist ever, ah well you probably don't know anything about the history of cycling so why should I even bother no
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