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« on: January 29, 2003, 12:48:20 AM »

Don't get me wrong, as a fan I loved 2 albums cause i would have more material to listen to, but if they wanted to make a MONSTER album, they should have made some cuts and made it just one album. Think about it. There would be no fillers just all great songs
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2003, 01:29:34 AM »

Don't get me wrong, as a fan I loved 2 albums cause i would have more material to listen to, but if they wanted to make a MONSTER album, they should have made some cuts and made it just one album. Think about it. There would be no fillers just all great songs

Fillers ?? I don't find any...
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2003, 02:00:45 AM »

Don't get me wrong, as a fan I loved 2 albums cause i would have more material to listen to, but if they wanted to make a MONSTER album, they should have made some cuts and made it just one album. Think about it. There would be no fillers just all great songs

Fillers ?? I don't find any...
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2003, 02:05:23 AM »

ya i agree that would have been a kick ass album start to finish, no skipping some songs, but it would have been choppy, a ballad here, a fast song there.

as for appetite, its just right start to finish, thats why it can't be topped as an album
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2003, 02:53:17 AM »

Don't get me wrong, as a fan I loved 2 albums cause i would have more material to listen to, but if they wanted to make a MONSTER album, they should have made some cuts and made it just one album. Think about it. There would be no fillers just all great songs

Fillers ?? I don't find any...
My world?!

well yeah but that is outro...And what the fuckin' FILLER last less than minute that isn't there for fill some space
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2003, 05:16:51 AM »

ya i agree that would have been a kick ass album start to finish, no skipping some songs, but it would have been choppy, a ballad here, a fast song there.

as for appetite, its just right start to finish, thats why it can't be topped as an album

i couldn't of said it better myself
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2003, 08:10:20 AM »

I don't think that UYI has too many fillers. And when I put all the songs on both UYI together... it's not possible on one CD. And for topping Appetite.... I think Appetite will never get topped coz it is the first thing that comes to people's minds when they think of GN'R. It's impossible to repeat that. It was THE album that made GN'R big and yeah... you can do whatever the fuck you want, you won't top it. [peace]
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2003, 12:44:12 PM »

IMO, filler material on UYIs includes:

Get in the Ring
My World
Back off Bitch
Right Next Door to Hell
You Ain't the First
Bad Apples
Shotgun Blues

If they had removd these tracks and cut out one version of Don't Cry, Dead Horse, So Fine, Double Talkin' Jive, Knockin' on Heaven's Door and Civil War, then what would have been left would have been as good as AFD IMO.

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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2003, 12:53:37 PM »

IMO, filler material on UYIs includes:

Get in the Ring
My World
Back off Bitch
Right Next Door to Hell
You Ain't the First
Bad Apples
Shotgun Blues

If they had removd these tracks and cut out one version of Don't Cry, Dead Horse, So Fine, Double Talkin' Jive, Knockin' on Heaven's Door and Civil War, then what would have been left would have been as good as AFD IMO.

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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2003, 03:11:42 PM »

would it be possible to have an album be that long though?

tracks would be

1.  Breakdown (7 min)
2.  Garden (5 min)
3.  Don't Damn Me (5 minutes)
4.  Yesterdays (3 min)
5.  Estranged (9 min)
6.  Pretty Tied up (5 min)
7.  14 years (4 min)
8.  Dust N' Bones (5 min)
9.  Locomotive (8 min)
10. Bad Obsession (5 min)
11. November Rain (8 min)
12. You Could Be Mine (6 min)
13. The Garden of Eden (3 min)
14. Don't Cry (5 min)
15. Coma (10 min)

...so that's an 88 minute long cd?  ...that's a pretty damn long cd

i think the way Gn'r handled the Illusions was the best way to do it, especially when you consider that axl hasn't released anything new since then, imagine if they only released one album and that was it...

and we never heard all the tracks left off those albums, i think that would kinda suck
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2003, 03:24:13 PM »

imagine if they only released one album and that was it...

and we never heard all the tracks left off those albums, i think that would kinda suck

that is a very VERY good point. if that happened, it would be terrible and such an awful shame. it could have happened and im glad it didnt. personally i dont see any fillers on the illusions, although i hate 'my world' but as someone previously mentioned, it's hardly long enough to bother with at all.
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2003, 03:33:55 PM »

i think it was the best way do the albums... i think if they had a little more work, like more time to work on them. they coulda been way better. cuz  i heard that they were released way before the band was ready.

you aint the first isnt really suppose to be a good song... its a drinkin song.

and the two albums were made into one another and released called use your illusion with songs from the two albums. (i saw it at K-mart and im not too sure when it was released)



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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2003, 04:05:20 PM »

Even if 'you aint the first' wasnt ment to be a good song i think it fuckin rocks!!

I've seen that "best of" Use Your Illusion too but never really been that intrested in getting it.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2003, 06:15:34 PM »

I think some of the material should've been held onto for future release, rather than trying to release it all at once.

The filler on the UYI albums IMO:

My World
Get in the Ring
Back Off Bitch
Shotgun Blues
Garden Of Eden
You Ain't the First


and the two albums were made into one another and released called use your illusion with songs from the two albums. (i saw it at K-mart and im not too sure when it was released)
That wasn't a "Best of" compilation.  That was the Wal-Mart and K-Mart edited version of the two albums.  Notice how all the songs on that CD are the UYI songs without curse words.  Don't buy that album.  If you do, you are supporting the two Marts' censorship policies.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2003, 07:38:43 PM »

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  I don't think any of the material was filler on these albums. From time to time I am always jamming one of them except "My World." I don't even acknowledge that as a song, I put it on to laugh sometime.
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2003, 12:02:39 AM »

Ok, if you FORCED me to take out songs, I don't know what I could part with. Let's see...

nope I cant pick any. Maybe you aint the first, my world, get in the ring... but with the exception of my world I still get into all those songs. I really love everything Guns did on UYIs, and it alternates. Sometimes I wanna hear Dead Horse or Don't Damn Me. Then I wanna hear locomotive and pretty tied up, you know. There's so much great stuff. How can you call this filler?! [beer] [hihi] [peace]
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2003, 12:19:16 AM »

I don't think UYI would have been better than AFD if, you tryed to make it on one CD. Thank God they did put out two albums.  [yes] That was so cool how Guns N' Roses put out two cd's. If they just put out one cd that would have changed their history so much. I don't think the UYI World Tour would have been that long.  Undecided

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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2003, 01:05:05 AM »


I think U Y I albums are the best albums ...they are perfect!!!
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2003, 02:06:47 PM »

This is a good topic. I've been trying for somewhile to work out a way for a best songs on UYI on one disc. For me UYI is more important than AFD and I think, while not having the cultural impact, probably contains better music, easily. UYI songs are not ... ah... filler, but they could have been put elsewhere, in a box set. I think the centerpiece has to be Estranged, the opening song You Could Be Mine, and the final track Coma. November Rain and some other great tracks could have been put out as an EP or something. This isn't the order I'd go w/ but these are the songs I'd pick....
1. You Could Be Mine
2. Don't Damn Me
3. Dead Horse
4. Don't Cry (pick one)
5. Estranged
6. Coma
7. Locomotive
8. Breakdown
9. Pretty Tied Up
10. Dust N' Bones
11. Civil War
12. Yesterdays
13. The Garden

There's some mixed tempo stuff, some strange stuff, long stuff, loud stuff, ballads, deep lyrics, 'fuck off lyrics'. But I like how it worked out, no matter what.
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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2003, 02:44:47 PM »

1. Right Next Door To Hell
2. Dust N' Bones
3. You Could Be Mine
4. Don't Cry (Original)
5. Breakdown
6. Locomotive
7. 14 Years
8. November Rain
9. Civil War
10. So Fine
11. Yesterdays
12. Estranged
13. Get In The Ring
14. Don't Damn Me
15. Dead Horse
16. Coma

KOHD and LALD as a double a-side/non album-single, Pretty Tied Up, Bad Obesssion, Double Talkin' Jive, The Garden and You Ain't The First as b-sides.
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