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[mikegiuliana]

I don't think it's the look, it's about loving something that was that you did volunterally, now trying to love a new band that you didn't pick.. same shit happens with velvet revolver, most of the people not into it are anti ex members.. You know if axl was behind slither or something everyone would be like good rocker.. people are biase plain and simple

I didn't like oh my god in nov 99 and I had no clue who was in teh band

[W. Botaxl Rose]

 I always get a kick out of these boards because people act as though Axl Rose is still some revelant person. The guy is a joke. He looks like a douche, sounds like douche, acts like a douche. He makes emo tunes about some chick who dumped him like 14 years ago & performed possibly the most embarrassing number I have ever witnessed on TV at the '02 VMA's. The only thing he has going for himself is the fact that he pretty much does nothing & that allows some people to imagine he might still be something. It's not '88 or '91 anymore people, the guy is nothing like what he once was. He's hired some session players & calls it GNR, which is such a joke considering what GNR means to the American public. Tommy Stinson used to mock him onstage when he was in The Mats' back in the early '90's, now he gets paid to hangout with Botaxl. Most of the rationally thinking world already knows Axl sucks, when will you all?

[TOPGUNner]

I always get a kick out of these boards because people act as though Axl Rose is still some revelant person. The guy is a joke. He looks like a douche, sounds like douche, acts like a douche. He makes emo tunes about some chick who dumped him like 14 years ago & performed possibly the most embarrassing number I have ever witnessed on TV at the '02 VMA's. The only thing he has going for himself is the fact that he pretty much does nothing & that allows some people to imagine he might still be something. It's not '88 or '91 anymore people, the guy is nothing like what he once was. He's hired some session players & calls it GNR, which is such a joke considering what GNR means to the American public. Tommy Stinson used to mock him onstage when he was in The Mats' back in the early '90's, now he gets paid to hangout with Botaxl. Most of the rationally thinking world already knows Axl sucks, when will you all?

I'll let someone else answer back to this 

[slashisvr]

I always get a kick out of these boards because people act as though Axl Rose is still some revelant person. The guy is a joke. He looks like a douche, sounds like douche, acts like a douche. He makes emo tunes about some chick who dumped him like 14 years ago & performed possibly the most embarrassing number I have ever witnessed on TV at the '02 VMA's. The only thing he has going for himself is the fact that he pretty much does nothing & that allows some people to imagine he might still be something. It's not '88 or '91 anymore people, the guy is nothing like what he once was. He's hired some session players & calls it GNR, which is such a joke considering what GNR means to the American public. Tommy Stinson used to mock him onstage when he was in The Mats' back in the early '90's, now he gets paid to hangout with Botaxl. Most of the rationally thinking world already knows Axl sucks, when will you all?

i agree on alot of what you have said.if facts are facts axl is a joke with what he has done, if he went in his own name, it would b better.but i do think if he got back with the old guys great music can be made again!!!the new stuff is ok, but when u say its ok, its really just shit, not groundbreaking like they were

[Mr Rage]

when their is no new great, groundbreaking bands to grab on to, you reach for the past and thats what happens on this board!

[estrangedpaul]

I think a major reason for keeping the name is so Axl can keep playing the old stuff, thus delaying Chinese Democracy further. I've heard people critisice VR because they play three old GnR songs, and saying Scott Weiland shouldn't be singing it if he doesn't like Axl, but the same people think it's ok for Axl to play a set consisting 80% of old GnR stuff, largely written by people Axl no longer likes. Why? Because Axl has the name. It annoys me to hear people say NuGnR are a way better band live than VR. They play 80% old stuff for god's sake. The true litmus test is if and when newGnR play a set of mostly new songs. If Slash Duff and Matt got a high-pitched singer like Sebastian Bach and played 80% old stuff, they could call the band Skidmarks, and I would to still pay to see that just as much as Axl's band. To see Slash and Duff play the shit out of the old stuff would be as big a draw as Axl doing it. If Axl's current band was just W. Axl Rose or some new name, they probably would be critisised for playing the old stuff. Personally, I'm glad Axl is playing mostly older stuff because I never got a chance to see the original band doing that, and seeing Axl do it would be amazing. But I don't think the new band deserve credit for being able to Sweet Child O' Mine. I can play it for god's sakes. He has to start playing more new stuff to get as much respect and authenticity as VR. Personally, I can see him introducing a couple of new tracks live on TV at Rock In Rio, or maybe debut them at the Madrid concert.

I know a lot of people don't like VR, but a lot do. I love Contraband and they wouldn't have achieved what they have without a good album.

Just a couple of more points on the original topic. I think the newGnR music is great but Axl really let himself down with some stuff like Oh My God, Riyadh and Silkworms. If you believe that people critisise Axl just because of who he is, then listen to those songs and you might discover a new reason. Hating Axl just because of his image is rediculous however. None of the original band were exactly "nice guys." Hence,  I'm got going to get drawn into who has the moral high ground between Axl and Slash except to say "Nice Boys Don't Play Rock n' Roll".

[estrangedpaul]

Tit for tit, tat for tat, I favor the "new gnr" over the "old gnr"? How come?? Because I think overall they are a bit more talented then they were with the original lineup or during the Illusion years! If you compared each member by the instrument.

Drums---? Adler/Sorum vs Brain---->? Brain
Bass-----Duff vs Tommy----> Tommy
Lead Guitar-----Slash vs Bucket/Finck----->Slash
Rhythm------Izzy/Gilby vs Fortus/Huge---->Fortus/Huge

Final Score New Gnr 3-Old Gnr 1

New GNR WINS!

Just my opinion, take it or leave it

Eh, Izzy wrote 50% of the original stuff, including many of their best songs. We haven't heard anything Fortus has written for GnR, and Paul Huge sucks, man. And until Tommy writes a song as good as Paradise City or It's So Easy, Duff will always be the no.1 gnr bassist.

[estrangedpaul]

Thevve done nothing different than what the old band did onstage except that they dont use the mic and talk. But maybe that will change as time goes on. When they tour on the album is when I will completely judge them.....till them blame Axl

They've done nothing different - that's exactly the point. They're a tribute band. That's a problem. The only thing they haven't done which the original band done is release an album and play a set almost full of new stuff. I think a lot of people you claim are anti-new GnR are actually just more open-minded. I certainly am. I just think its rediculous to assume the new album will be better than anything else until its released. The fact is the new band haven't proven themselves and won't do so until an album arrives. Yes they can rock out on stage but most people playing those classic songs could rock out. They're rockin' songs. Writing, recording and finishing a quality studio album is a whole different ball game. I have nothing against the newGnR and really hope they succeed. But they haven't proven themselves yet. Of the songs we heard so far there are some potential classics, but that's not enough. I've nothing against their image, their ability to play the old songs and certainly nothing against Axl or any of the members. I just have something against people who say they are better than the old band, best band ever, etc., when they haven't even released an album yet. It's just premature and overly presumptious.

[da_pope]

What music?
The New GN'R hasn't released any new music.

[Wolfpac]

I don't care if it's the new band or the old band I just think the new demos and leaks suck compared to the old stuff GNR has released.

[Jonathan]

What music?
The New GN'R hasn't released any new music.

Would you stop playing stupid?

You know what he meant.