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« on: September 23, 2006, 10:19:18 PM »

hey fellow gnr addicts,

as you probably know GNR is playing tonite at the KROQ Inland Invasion.  There's a webcast that's going to broadcast the performance.  Check details at http://blueroom.att.com/events/inlandschedule.php

how do i capture the show so i can listen to it later on??
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2006, 10:27:42 PM »

i hope we get a sbd flac rec
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2006, 10:38:31 PM »

yeah thats what i am waiting for..
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2006, 11:22:46 PM »

yeah come on people capture this so we can have a perfect sound bootleg
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2006, 11:36:34 PM »

The audio is lossy on the webcast

It's only 300k, too, I think

Though WMP says it's 551k/s

So it's not gonna be crystal clear

I'm trying to capture it, but I don't know what software to use for this and I can't find the MMS: link
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2006, 11:42:14 PM »

Ok I am installing some software now and I'm gonna run a test.

I'll let ya' know how it goes, and if it goes well, I'll capture the gig.

If anyone else is capturing it, let me know, I'll gladly host your files.

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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2006, 11:47:15 PM »

You can use Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/) to record the audio.

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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2006, 11:50:51 PM »

I am trying to catch the stream with WM Recorder but have no idea how to convert it after that.
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2006, 12:01:23 AM »

I've got the full A7X set in Apple Lossless, Stereo.

Source: Webstream -> Audio Hijack Pro -> Apple Lossless Stereo.
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2006, 12:03:09 AM »

The audio is lossy on the webcast

It's only 300k, too, I think

Though WMP says it's 551k/s

So it's not gonna be crystal clear

I'm trying to capture it, but I don't know what software to use for this and I can't find the MMS: link

gnr2006 get the audio plz
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2006, 12:04:47 AM »

I've got the full A7X set in Apple Lossless, Stereo.

Source: Webstream -> Audio Hijack Pro -> Apple Lossless Stereo.

put it up who care we all will enjoy it

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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2006, 12:07:36 AM »

It'll be up when i've got the time to upload it. Be patient and it'll be released soon enough.
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2006, 12:08:53 AM »

i am not forcing nothing i just said put it up u put it on your time
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2006, 12:22:21 AM »

I am going to capture the .asx stream and then cut up the files individually and upload the show.

I would imagine I'll have the whole thing uploaded by Sunday night.

I might do a few tracks after the show tonight, but I have to work 3 hours after this will end, sooooooooooo i might sleep a bit.

But I've got the recorder working and set up.

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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2006, 12:22:46 AM »

I'm capturing it in audio.. and I'm sure someone is getting video, but will someone please verify that they're getting the video? ?Thanks! ?peace
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2006, 12:27:47 AM »

Here's the problem: When you record a .asx stream out of this, and then try and replay it, it still has to download the license through WMP.

Any ideas?

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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2006, 12:29:25 AM »

I can't edit the file in Windows Movie Maker either, because of it's license.

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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2006, 12:29:44 AM »

BluesGNR, if you want a place to host the audio let me know
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2006, 12:30:44 AM »

Here is what I'm talking about. This is a clip from the Muse performance. Play it in Windows Media Player, and it downloads the license. Play it in VLC and it's corrupted. Open it in Windows Movie Player, it says it's protected.

http://downloads.thenewguns.com/guns.asf
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2006, 12:30:58 AM »

I'll keep you posted. ?I think I've got a way to capture the video too directly from the stream and then edit it.. I'll let you know for sure. ?At the least, I'm getting the audio. ?peace
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2006, 12:31:20 AM »

Bad link dude

nvm ur ahead of me already, saw u fixed it beer
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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2006, 12:31:35 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2006, 12:38:43 AM »

I am using a software called Cocsoft Stream Down 5.3.  It seems to work pretty well from what I have been testing with tonight.  Use can goto any torrent search site and find a torrent for it.
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2006, 12:39:42 AM »

I can record and play back on my own PC just fine. But that's because the license is still valid.

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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2006, 01:09:27 AM »

I'm not getting any video.. just that audio.   peace
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2006, 01:11:28 AM »

ok people, I have figured out how to record the audio.  it will be the same quality as whatever the webcast is.  i will leave it to someone else to get the video
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2006, 01:15:08 AM »

BluesGNR

if you need a place to upload the mp3s or what not

let me know i'll give you the login to downloads.thenewguns.com, if  you are familar with using FTP
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2006, 01:17:50 AM »

I'm recording the video, but like I said, it's all copy and DRM protected. So we'll have to get around that somehow. Converting seems to distort it. Once the site takes down the license, it won't play in WMP.

But I'm sure we'll get around that.... for now I'll just concentrate on trying to capture the stream.

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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2006, 01:18:54 AM »

I just transfer the files to the ftp and then post links? If that's it, I'm sure I can do it.   peace
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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2006, 01:23:09 AM »

I sent you a PM with instructions.

Thanks for doing this, a lot of people will want these right away and it will be easier if they could directly download them.

Feel free to post the links wherever anyone might want them.

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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2006, 01:35:49 AM »

I clicked Properties on the webcast and it says the audio codec is:

Windows Media Audio 9.1
22 kbps, 22 kHz, stereo (A/V) 1-pass CBR

So there wouldn't be any loss in quality if I encoded it to a 64kbps mp3??

am I understanding this correctly??

I am recording it directly to WAV just to be safe...
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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2006, 02:06:00 AM »

This isn't working for me with the video, it's already started and stopped a few times.

I'm giving up, will try and grab one of the new songs though and then upload it.

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« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2006, 02:08:08 AM »

I've got the full A7X set in Apple Lossless, Stereo.

Source: Webstream -> Audio Hijack Pro -> Apple Lossless Stereo.

Wouldn't that be fake lossless? It's from a lossy source.

Can someone confirm that they're doing VIDEO? I'm recording audio, but I just want to make sure video will be done too.
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« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2006, 02:17:29 AM »

I am downloading the video but I have no idea how to convert it when I am done, any help would be appreciated!
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« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2006, 02:40:29 AM »

I clicked Properties on the webcast and it says the audio codec is:

Windows Media Audio 9.1
22 kbps, 22 kHz, stereo (A/V) 1-pass CBR

So there wouldn't be any loss in quality if I encoded it to a 64kbps mp3??

am I understanding this correctly??

I am recording it directly to WAV just to be safe...

22kbps  Cry

Damn, I didn't think it was that crappy, lol. I'm grabbing audio myself and the mix is good. Did it get censored at the start?? When Axl said 'Where the FUCK you are?' it censored mine....  Angry

Is this being broadcast on radio at all??
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« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2006, 02:42:17 AM »

I clicked Properties on the webcast and it says the audio codec is:

Windows Media Audio 9.1
22 kbps, 22 kHz, stereo (A/V) 1-pass CBR

So there wouldn't be any loss in quality if I encoded it to a 64kbps mp3??

am I understanding this correctly??

I am recording it directly to WAV just to be safe...

22kbps? Cry

Damn, I didn't think it was that crappy, lol. I'm grabbing audio myself and the mix is good. Did it get censored at the start?? When Axl said 'Where the FUCK you are?' it censored mine....? Angry

Is this being broadcast on radio at all??

Yea cause they knew he was gonna say it.  After that they had no clue and he's said it at least 5 times since. 
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« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2006, 02:50:49 AM »

I clicked Properties on the webcast and it says the audio codec is:

Windows Media Audio 9.1
22 kbps, 22 kHz, stereo (A/V) 1-pass CBR

So there wouldn't be any loss in quality if I encoded it to a 64kbps mp3??

am I understanding this correctly??

I am recording it directly to WAV just to be safe...

22kbps  Cry

Damn, I didn't think it was that crappy, lol. I'm grabbing audio myself and the mix is good. Did it get censored at the start?? When Axl said 'Where the FUCK you are?' it censored mine....  Angry

Is this being broadcast on radio at all??

Yea cause they knew he was gonna say it.  After that they had no clue and he's said it at least 5 times since. 

Yea, lol. He said motherfuckers a few times, haha.  Grin
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« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2006, 03:13:59 AM »

I clicked Properties on the webcast and it says the audio codec is:

Windows Media Audio 9.1
22 kbps, 22 kHz, stereo (A/V) 1-pass CBR

So there wouldn't be any loss in quality if I encoded it to a 64kbps mp3??

am I understanding this correctly??

I am recording it directly to WAV just to be safe...

22kbps? Cry

Damn, I didn't think it was that crappy, lol. I'm grabbing audio myself and the mix is good. Did it get censored at the start?? When Axl said 'Where the FUCK you are?' it censored mine....? Angry

Is this being broadcast on radio at all??

it censored mine also, and before 'Better' when Axl says "downloading motherfuckers"....at least they didn't catch the ones in It's So Easy & Brownstone.?

I would imagine it's being broadcast on the radio because KROQ is FM 106.7 from Pasadena, CA.? ?

I did a frequency analysis of the broadcast earlier on and it drops off at around 8000 mHZ as opposed to 16000 mHZ which is around where a 128 kbps or 192 kbps mp3 would.

In addition to the shit 22 kbps quality I have noticed that it is being broadcast in "fake" stereo, as in both the left and right sides are the same...i guess this webcast rip will just be to tie us over till a lossless FM or SBD source comes around.
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« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2006, 03:20:40 AM »

I'm still attempting to record the video.

I know I missed at least 1:30 of Mr. Brownstone (the end)

I have no idea how this is coming out at all, either.

I'll let ya' know of course Smiley

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« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2006, 03:28:15 AM »

I'm still attempting to record the video.

I know I missed at least 1:30 of Mr. Brownstone (the end)

I have no idea how this is coming out at all, either.

I'll let ya' know of course Smiley



I have it recording from start to finish with nothing missing so if you figure out how to convert the video files please let me know ok
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« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2006, 03:31:30 AM »

I'm still attempting to record the video.

I know I missed at least 1:30 of Mr. Brownstone (the end)

I have no idea how this is coming out at all, either.

I'll let ya' know of course Smiley



I have it recording from start to finish with nothing missing so if you figure out how to convert the video files please let me know ok


It's not so much the conversion. I imagine it's gonna save as an .asx file, but with the DRM protection still intact. What we need to do before converting it is remove that protection. Otherwise I think whatever you convert the .asx to will not display properly.

I could be wrong though, I'm no expert on this.


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« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2006, 03:41:34 AM »

I'm still attempting to record the video.

I know I missed at least 1:30 of Mr. Brownstone (the end)

I have no idea how this is coming out at all, either.

I'll let ya' know of course Smiley



I have it recording from start to finish with nothing missing so if you figure out how to convert the video files please let me know ok


It's not so much the conversion. I imagine it's gonna save as an .asx file, but with the DRM protection still intact. What we need to do before converting it is remove that protection. Otherwise I think whatever you convert the .asx to will not display properly.

I could be wrong though, I'm no expert on this.




No, you are right, I looked it up before.  It's protected content.  I am saying if you figure it out let me know how to do it or I can also give you my video since it isn't missing any footage and I am using the HQ stream link-
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« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2006, 03:54:58 AM »

please let there be a wave recording of this
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« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2006, 04:10:25 AM »

The video recording I have says it isnt protected and I was able to open it with VLC player.? So will I be able to convert this easily?

Someone help, I would love to get this out there to anyone that couldn't view it- ok
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« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2006, 04:11:34 AM »

Yes you should have no problems then
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« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2006, 04:12:27 AM »

Yes you should have no problems then

Its still in windows media format-any idea what software I should use
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« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2006, 04:12:51 AM »

please let there be a wave recording of this

I've got your wave recording... I've got to split the tracks and upload it. ?Hopefully by Sunday night if I have time ?peace
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« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2006, 04:13:55 AM »

is it audio or video your having problems with ?

also what format are you tryin to convert from and to ?

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« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2006, 04:14:47 AM »

is it audio or video your having problems with ?

also what format are you tryin to convert from and to ?

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Its the full video in WMA not protected
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« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2006, 04:15:22 AM »

what are you trying to convert to ?
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« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2006, 04:15:51 AM »

Yes you should have no problems then

Its still in windows media format-any idea what software I should use

Keep it in .wmv

Use windows movie maker if you want, to split the tracks

Or just upload the whole thing as it is, which is what I would do, or if you are tired, just maybe split the thing in half and upload it as two halves

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« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2006, 04:16:15 AM »

what are you trying to convert to ?

Not sure, what do you think would be the best route without loss of quality?
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« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2006, 04:16:47 AM »

Actually don't use Windows Movie Maker that would re-encode it.

Torrent the original file on like mininova i can grab it and edit it into tracks

The best route is not re-encoding it at all, quality wise.
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« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2006, 04:17:09 AM »

Yes you should have no problems then

Its still in windows media format-any idea what software I should use

Keep it in .wmv

Use windows movie maker if you want, to split the tracks

Or just upload the whole thing as it is, which is what I would do, or if you are tired, just maybe split the thing in half and upload it as two halves



I am not that talented but anyone who wants this is welcome to it if they know how to do this
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« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2006, 04:17:43 AM »

 How can you transfer it to me?
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« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2006, 04:18:03 AM »

How can you transfer it to me?

AIM, torrent
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« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2006, 04:18:41 AM »

well i would personally convert it to DVD format ....

Using a program called ConvertXtoDVD or something else. Im sure that an authored version will appear some where also ...

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« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2006, 04:19:06 AM »

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« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2006, 04:25:26 AM »

So can anyone confirm it was on radio?? (I'm in UK so can't find out, lol)...

I have the whole show in audio but I will only upload in mp3, trust me its good but nowhere near worth uploading in flac.
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« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2006, 04:26:01 AM »

Thanks a lot for the mp3 Smiley
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« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2006, 04:41:10 AM »

http://www.mininova.org/tor/433047

I have the audio/video stream posted here if anyone wants it to convert it, author it or whatever peace
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« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2006, 04:53:16 AM »

Are you sure this torrent is working? all peers I'm connectoed have 0% completion.

Edit: It works now I'll keep it seeded as long as possible when I'm ready thx for you effort
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« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2006, 04:58:55 AM »

Are you sure this torrent is working? all peers I'm connectoed have 0% completion.

Edit: It works now I'll keep it seeded as long as possible when I'm ready thx for you effort

Sorry about my slow upload!  I hope this works-
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« Reply #63 on: September 24, 2006, 05:05:40 AM »

please let there be a wave recording of this

I've got your wave recording... I've got to split the tracks and upload it. ?Hopefully by Sunday night if I have time ?peace

I've got a wave recording also, but we both just have wave recordings of a 22 kbps source, making our wave recordings no better
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« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2006, 05:10:36 AM »

the original stream is

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Audio: Windows Media Audio 44100Hz stereo 31Kbps [Raw Audio 0]
Video: Windows Media Video 9 400x300 20.00fps 519Kbps [Raw Video 1]

so the final quality will never be good .... :/

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« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2006, 05:12:35 AM »

the original stream is

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Audio: Windows Media Audio 44100Hz stereo 31Kbps [Raw Audio 0]
Video: Windows Media Video 9 400x300 20.00fps 519Kbps [Raw Video 1]

so the final quality will never be good .... :/



True, which is why I am just putting the video out there as is.
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« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2006, 06:31:30 AM »

http://www.mininova.org/tor/433047

I have the audio/video stream posted here if anyone wants it to convert it, author it or whatever peace

Thanks man beer might have a play around with it once I have it downloaded. ok
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« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2006, 06:54:55 AM »

Thanks a lot Bandita. Is it the complete stream?

http://www.mininova.org/tor/433047

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« Reply #68 on: September 24, 2006, 02:04:23 PM »

If this is finished when I get home from work I'm going to upload the big file to our server for direct download
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« Reply #69 on: September 24, 2006, 02:16:21 PM »

I have the show captured after Papa Roach, but when I try to open it it brings up the License Acquisition.  How do I get pass it?  The Play button doesn't show up.  It brings up the blueroom.att.com site
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« Reply #70 on: September 24, 2006, 02:17:53 PM »

I have the show captured after Papa Roach, but when I try to open it it brings up the License Acquisition.  How do I get pass it?  The Play button doesn't show up.  It brings up the blueroom.att.com site

You have to search google for "Remove DRM Protection"

I haven't been able to do it yet, but I fell asleep a little after the show ended and have been at work since I woke up, so I haven't really tried.

What is the file size of your capture?
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« Reply #71 on: September 24, 2006, 02:45:17 PM »

Thanks a lot Bandita. Is it the complete stream?

http://www.mininova.org/tor/433047

I have the audio/video stream posted here if anyone wants it to convert it, author it or whatever peace

Yes, complete GNR stream.? I will post a pic of what the file says when I hover over it so you know exactly what it is-

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« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2006, 08:52:40 PM »

I have the show captured after Papa Roach, but when I try to open it it brings up the License Acquisition. How do I get pass it? The Play button doesn't show up. It brings up the blueroom.att.com site

You have to search google for "Remove DRM Protection"

I haven't been able to do it yet, but I fell asleep a little after the show ended and have been at work since I woke up, so I haven't really tried.

What is the file size of your capture?

2.33 GB
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