The Simpsons movie

[Jim]

as far as worst eps go - the Ricky Gervais ep wins the award hands down. As comic book guy would say 'worst episode ever'

You're right on that one, but get it right; he would say "worst. Episode. Ever." Come on now.

[pilferk]

On a separate note, you mention that sideshow Bob episode. Can anyone remember an episode where they all moved to some island and there was some strange fog or something and then all the characters started doing bizarre things (memory's a bit hazy). I just remember it being dire beyond belief. I think it was like 3 or 4 years ago.

-Greg

I think you're possibly jumbling up a couple of the Treehouse of Horror vignettes into one.  The "island" one, I think, is the spoof on the Island of Dr. Moreau called "The Island of Dr. Hibbert" (Treehouse of Horror XIII) and the "inside out fog" epilogue from Treehouse of Horror V.  The fog "gets" the Simpsons...and promptly leads to a dance number.

[pilferk]

How can a toyline made into a cartoon made into a film be - ''pillaged all in the name of commercialism''?!?

What on earth do u think Transformers is?

Its an excercise in creative marketing - and always has been - and no one would ever claim otherwise

Intrestingly enough its written and produced by massive Transformer fans, people that could rival any of our knowledge of the show - Steven Spielberg is an avid Transformers fan and was instrumental in the film being made - they even made Michael Bay learn the back story. The net is awash with interviews with the writers and producers, people ony to happy to talk abut it

All the characters, designs and story elements were created by the writers - Michael Bay (in his own words) has said his sole contribution to the robots look was adding flames to Prime - everything else was done by avid fans.

Maybe their vision is unothodox, but its been made by people who love the Transformers and intend for it to be the biggest film of the summer - and commercial? Just remember: this film was made to sell toys

Yes, that's what I said: resurrected (surely, you can agree it was "dead" until this revival), raped and pillaged (as you attest, changed from the original forms, format, storyline, etc), all in the name of commercialism (as you admit, to sell toys).

Seems like you agree with me....you just don't like the words I chose.

I'm not saying they were wrong to do it, or that it won't turn out to be a profitable move, or anything else.  I'm simply pointing out the irony behind your "lust" for that franchise for committing the very same "sins" you're accusing the Simpsons of committing, and, quite frankly, the Transformers franchise commits them at least a couple orders of magnitude more extravagantly.

It's something you're looking forward too that is FAR more commercial than what the Simpsons has become.....and also taken up by "those who love the franchise" (ie: many of the old writing and production team are invovled) yet you choose to villify the Simpsons movie and not Transformers.  I think that's pretty ironic.  I'm not really surprised you don't see the irony.

Edit: I suppose you're trying to make a point that Transformers should be "forgiven" because it was the nature of the beast all along, while Simpsons, in your opinion, has changed (I disagree....they've were pretty "commercial" pretty early in their run).  But that, again, is where the irony lies....

[jarmo]

This is pretty funny: http://flickr.com/photos/rdr07/sets/72157600590001691/



/jarmo

[The Dog]

We'll see....I'll let you know...but I think it's amusing you think The Simpsons will be bad, but you're looking forward to Transformers, a franchise being resurrected, raped, bastardized, and pillaged all in the name of commercialism. 

How can a toyline made into a cartoon made into a film be - ''pillaged all in the name of commercialism''?!?

What on earth do u think Transformers is?

Its an excercise in creative marketing - and always has been - and no one would ever claim otherwise

Intrestingly enough its written and produced by massive Transformer fans, people that could rival any of our knowledge of the show - Steven Spielberg is an avid Transformers fan and was instrumental in the film being made - they even made Michael Bay learn the back story. The net is awash with interviews with the writers and producers, people ony to happy to talk abut it

All the characters, designs and story elements were created by the writers - Michael Bay (in his own words) has said his sole contribution to the robots look was adding flames to Prime - everything else was done by avid fans.

Maybe their vision is unothodox, but its been made by people who love the Transformers and intend for it to be the biggest film of the summer - and commercial? Just remember: this film was made to sell toys

HAHAHAHh Izzy your post is such a huge pile of shit. are you kidding me?!?!  Avid fans!??!  Steven Speilberg!! hhahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

find me one fan who always thought the transformers story should be about a boy and his robot car and all of his human friends and not about the transformers themselves.

take your own advice and read what the "avid fans" think of the new designs, the new story, flames on prime.  The makers of the new movie had everything but the real/avid fans in mind when they came up with their ideas.

[GeraldFord]

I haven't watched the Simpsons in ten years or so...

When did it start to suck?

[slashBOG]

^ 10 years ago

[GeraldFord]

What makes the Simpsons 1997+ so bad?

[CheapJon]

I'd rather see family guy the movie

[dankrass]

saw the trailer for this before the new Die Hard.... and the whole theater was laughing their asses off.

The series has become VERY inconsistent since season 13, but I can see them getting this right.

3 more weeks.

[Izzy]

HAHAHAHh Izzy your post is such a huge pile of shit. are you kidding me?!?!  Avid fans!??!  Steven Speilberg!! hhahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

er.... Yes?

Spielberg was instrumental in bringing this film to life, he's a big transformers fan.

find me one fan who always thought the transformers story should be about a boy and his robot car and all of his human friends and not about the transformers themselves.

...me?

the human characters are the glue that makes it work - cgi metal yakking away wouldnt wash with the general public, it has to revolve around a human character through which we can explore the Transformers - thats exactly what the original show did....remember? Sparkplug? Spike? Hell, Bumblebee and Spike yakking away was a huge chunk of the original show - one boy and his car...geddit? Not like Spielberg invented that....

This is the first film in a series already planned to go for atleats 5 more sequals (according to Mr Bay) - look at the villians they choose, ones with little or no backstory - cannon fodder, the first films just about setting things up - introducing the characters again after a 20 years hiatus

Maybe you should watch those eps again - a mate lent me the boxset, absurd storylines, generic villians, plot holes - thats hardly something Michael Bay or Stevn Spielberg brought to Transformers

Honestly, when was the last time u saw an episode? 15 years?

take your own advice and read what the "avid fans" think of the new designs, the new story, flames on prime.  The makers of the new movie had everything but the real/avid fans in mind when they came up with their ideas.

number 233 on IMDB top 250 films - now IMDB is only good at telling u what geeks obsessed with comics are thinking (i.e hardcore TF fans).....so, i'm guessing they're pretty happy

[jarmo]

Transformers?


Reminds me of that scene in Clerks 2.... 




/jarmo

[freedom78]

Transformers?


Reminds me of that scene in Clerks 2.... 




/jarmo

Since God created man, and man created the Transformers, the Transformers are like a gift from God!

[Sober_times]

This is pretty funny: http://flickr.com/photos/rdr07/sets/72157600590001691/



/jarmo

That is like the best thing ever. Does anyone know if these stores are gonna be permanent? It seems like a lot of money to be spent just to change it back in a couple months. That would be so bad ass if they were permanent.?

[The Dog]

HAHAHAHh Izzy your post is such a huge pile of shit. are you kidding me?!?!  Avid fans!??!  Steven Speilberg!! hhahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

er.... Yes?

Spielberg was instrumental in bringing this film to life, he's a big transformers fan.

find me one fan who always thought the transformers story should be about a boy and his robot car and all of his human friends and not about the transformers themselves.

...me?

the human characters are the glue that makes it work - cgi metal yakking away wouldnt wash with the general public, it has to revolve around a human character through which we can explore the Transformers - thats exactly what the original show did....remember? Sparkplug? Spike? Hell, Bumblebee and Spike yakking away was a huge chunk of the original show - one boy and his car...geddit? Not like Spielberg invented that....

This is the first film in a series already planned to go for atleats 5 more sequals (according to Mr Bay) - look at the villians they choose, ones with little or no backstory - cannon fodder, the first films just about setting things up - introducing the characters again after a 20 years hiatus

Maybe you should watch those eps again - a mate lent me the boxset, absurd storylines, generic villians, plot holes - thats hardly something Michael Bay or Stevn Spielberg brought to Transformers

Honestly, when was the last time u saw an episode? 15 years?

take your own advice and read what the "avid fans" think of the new designs, the new story, flames on prime.  The makers of the new movie had everything but the real/avid fans in mind when they came up with their ideas.

number 233 on IMDB top 250 films - now IMDB is only good at telling u what geeks obsessed with comics are thinking (i.e hardcore TF fans).....so, i'm guessing they're pretty happy

um, last i recall, the show actually had the robots in it.  the majority of the show didn't have the human characters with the majority of the screen time and lines....

[2NaFish]

On a separate note, you mention that sideshow Bob episode. Can anyone remember an episode where they all moved to some island and there was some strange fog or something and then all the characters started doing bizarre things (memory's a bit hazy). I just remember it being dire beyond belief. I think it was like 3 or 4 years ago. Basically i feel that the simpsons used to tell a story then all of a sudden they started making up really random and pointless stories that didn't fit. Anyway that episode for me sums up exactly how I feel. Shame I cant remember anything else about it - Island, thats all folks.

the episode you're thinking of is, i believe one where homer gets online and starts posting rumours. one of them eventually turns out to be true so he is sent to the island with lots of other people that know something. it is an homage/rip off of a cult 70's british TV show called, i think, the prisoner.

still, whether or not you know the reference, it doesnt stop it being a pretty shitty episode.

[Loaded NightraiN]

still, whether or not you know the reference, it doesnt stop it being a pretty shitty episode.

I liked the Mr. X episode

[Oddy]

simpsons is dead to me.

i think the movie will suck. i will definetly go watch it.......but only because i grew up on simpsons. this may be the final nail in the coffin for me.

they should have stopped at season 10 when phil hartman died.

if they get to season 20 their gonna have more shit material than good.

the best seasons for me are around 3-10.

10 years of shit afterwards is just too much.

[Loaded NightraiN]

Alot of negativity with the later simpsons episodes 

I think thats because simpsons were a sure fire hit every episode for 10 years... After a while they did run out of ideas, and recycled once in a while... I will admit, some crappy episodes (grandpa and selma get married, please...), But they still have some solid episodes to this day....

[Eazy E]

I will admit, some crappy episodes (grandpa and selma get married, please...), But they still have some solid episodes to this day....

That episode is absolutely brutal... I could barely sit through the whole thing.

However, I think this most recent season of the Simpsons was a step forward from the past few years.? The two final episodes of the season were completely solid... I also liked the episode with Bart ending up being friends with Nelson... and the bit between Homer & Moe when Homer is in charge of the mob was priceless.

There's no way the writers can avoid hearing the criticism of the show's decline in quality... hopefully this latest season + the movie is a sign of them trying to step up their game.

Edit - Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1kYJlWGJ5M? ?