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« Reply #140 on: December 05, 2006, 10:50:54 AM »

Shame on G&R and shame on Axel Rose. They have obviously forgotten who made them...the FANS, or in this case, FORMER fans. We took our 9 yr old son to what would have been his first concert and for what? To stand in the hall due to strippers onstage and some "band" that couldn't carry a beat. He spent all the money he had saved on a G&R souvenier and didn't even get to see them due to their not coming onstage until 12:31 AM! Not even enough decency to at least tell the fans when to expect them on.

Don't you have a daughter Axel? Some example you give. Were you raised by wolves or what? Bon Jovi is a true rock and roll star. KISS is true rock and roll. You, Axel Rose, are a used up piece of toilet paper. You don't amount to a hill of dog crap. Tell us, have you gotten all the money you stole from the ticket buyers sniffed up yet?

To anyone thinking of going to a G&R "NO-show" or of buying their cd's/dvd's do yourself and everyone else a favor and JUST SAY NO. It's about time the public sent a messege to these used up old druggies.
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« Reply #141 on: December 05, 2006, 03:32:50 PM »

Shame on G&R and shame on Axel Rose. They have obviously forgotten who made them...the FANS, or in this case, FORMER fans. We took our 9 yr old son to what would have been his first concert and for what? To stand in the hall due to strippers onstage and some "band" that couldn't carry a beat. He spent all the money he had saved on a G&R souvenier and didn't even get to see them due to their not coming onstage until 12:31 AM! Not even enough decency to at least tell the fans when to expect them on.

Don't you have a daughter Axel? Some example you give. Were you raised by wolves or what? Bon Jovi is a true rock and roll star. KISS is true rock and roll. You, Axel Rose, are a used up piece of toilet paper. You don't amount to a hill of dog crap. Tell us, have you gotten all the money you stole from the ticket buyers sniffed up yet?

To anyone thinking of going to a G&R "NO-show" or of buying their cd's/dvd's do yourself and everyone else a favor and JUST SAY NO. It's about time the public sent a messege to these used up old druggies.

I stopped reading after Bon Jovi. Take your kid to the teletubby concert instead if you are that clueless and unaware that the show does not start untill 11:30 or after, or if you are unaware who the opening acts are.  If you want to talk about parenting, I would never take my 9 year old to a guns n roses concert to begin with, let alone bitch about it after.  Do your research bub. 
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« Reply #142 on: December 05, 2006, 08:32:02 PM »

guys, don't even bother replying to that post two above me.

Did anyone see the whole band come out and watch Helmet during their first song?  They seemed to be all there...except maybe I didn't see Tommy.  Robin was hanging out backstage real early, going over some guitar tech stuff even during Bach's set.  It was cool to see the exchange between Robin and his guitar tech during basically every song.  He was busy tuning all night long, pretty cool.  Is the guy that gets Axl's mic stand the same guy from back in 92 in the Tokyo videos?  It kind of looks like him. 
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« Reply #143 on: December 06, 2006, 02:02:11 PM »

guys, don't even bother replying to that post two above me.

Did anyone see the whole band come out and watch Helmet during their first song?? They seemed to be all there...except maybe I didn't see Tommy.? Robin was hanging out backstage real early, going over some guitar tech stuff even during Bach's set.? It was cool to see the exchange between Robin and his guitar tech during basically every song.? He was busy tuning all night long, pretty cool.? Is the guy that gets Axl's mic stand the same guy from back in 92 in the Tokyo videos?? It kind of looks like him.?

The band came out and watched Helmet's first song???  They know Helmet is awesome.   ok
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« Reply #144 on: December 06, 2006, 07:35:17 PM »

yeah, they watched almost the entire set before going back into the dressing room.  It was cool to see Robin in street clothes.  He seemed really upbeat, even backstage. 

I've been thinking all week how incredible Robin was.  He's definitely my new guitar hero.
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« Reply #145 on: December 06, 2006, 09:43:10 PM »

How can anyone be on this board and not know how to spell Axl?  WTF?
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« Reply #146 on: December 06, 2006, 09:44:39 PM »

How can anyone be on this board and not know how to spell Axl?? WTF?

Easy, anyone who thinks Bon Jovi is great rock star will not be able to spell axl.
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« Reply #147 on: December 07, 2006, 08:20:57 AM »

Apparently GN'R didn't even hit the stage until 12:30AM!!! WTF???

Guns N' Roses / Helmet / Sebastian Bach / Suicide Girls Live Review - 12.01.06 - Hilton Coliseum - Ames, IA
Posted by James Munson on 12.07.2006


Axl & company return with a second arena tour preceding the long-awaited Chinese Democracy. The accompanying stage show is a visual feast and the eight-piece all-star line-up sounds tighter than ever. Unfortunately, the overblown seven-hour concert turned away many fans before the main act even appeared on stage.


When it comes time for a band to heavily promote its newest album, which ? in this case- is thirteen years in the making, it would probably be considered an ill-fated move for this band to charge exorbitant prices for concert tickets, force their fans to wait for hours in anticipation, and then mock them. Then again, when you?re talking about Guns N? Roses, this kind of behavior isn?t so shocking. Tonight?s train-wreck of a concert at Hilton Coliseum in Ames, IA (start time: 8:00 PM, end time: 3:00 AM) affirmed what GN?R fans have known for years: Axl?s attitude hasn?t changed and neither has his contempt for punctuality.

The Suicide Girls burlesque show began around 8:15 and featured lots of leather, fire-laced hula hoops, and nipples covered in electrical tape. The five Suicide Girls on this tour frolicked across the stage to the tunes of Yeah Yeah Yeahs, The White Stripes, and Prince. Even though their punk/goth-tinged performances could have been significantly more effective in a club setting, the irony of their art was lost on most of the two-thirds full arena (predominantly the thirty-something males commanding the ladies to, ?Show your tits!?).

Primary opening act Sebastian Bach served stormed the stage with his four-piece band to a standing ovation. Out of everyone who preceded GN?R, Bach commanded the most audience attention. This was somewhat unforeseen because his set of newer lukewarm metal throwaways and Skid Row covers were surely less than impressive. He gave numerous shout-outs to Iowa (?Iowa, I?ll remember you!?), bashed Simon Cowell and American Idol in a ridiculous manner (?Shouldn?t the real American Idol be chosen by Americans?? It is.), and called out to the troops ?fighting over in Iraq for our right to rock tonight? before introducing ?American Metalhead?. Donning a tight black leather jacket and pants combo (sans shirt), Bach came off like a former high school classmate who was never really all that funny to begin with and never shut his mouth. Unremarkably, his set outlasted every other opening act at an hour and ten minutes.

Helmet?s first-night appearance agitated the already restless crowd. Taking the stage at 10:30 for a fifty-five minute performance book ended by ?Unsung? and ?In the Meantime? from their 1992 peak album Meantime, they were greeted with middle fingers. After several lineup changes, this version of Helmet (led by sole founding member Page Hamilton) mixed more recent sub par material, from Monochrome and Size Matters, with older tunes from post grunge-era albums Betty and Aftertaste. Titanic slabs of rock like ?I Know? came off as sluggish and monotonous. Hamilton?s voice, once omnipotent and wavering, sounded stale and lifeless.

Following Helmet, the Suicide Girls performed three more skits while the flustered, impatient crowd derided them. Before Guns N? Roses took the stage at 12:30 AM., a sufficient number of people left the venue and others booed in unison flipped middle fingers to the stage. One concertgoer noted, ?This better be one hell of a show for them to keep us waiting this long.? Amidst darkness and smoke, former Nine Inch Nails guitarist Robin Finck appeared in the shadows strumming the opening notes (complete with pauses, for dramatic effect) to ?Welcome to the Jungle?. When a piercing voice shrieked, ?Do you know where the fuck you are?? a spotlight beamed down on Axl Rose, sporting a braided ponytail with a button-up black dress shirt and denim jeans. At the song?s opening climax, six massive explosions shot out from the drum riser to expose the juggernaut eight-piece band playing in flawless syncopation. Rose danced his trademark side-to-side sway and paraded across the stage and risers while stomping his foot; moves he perfected years ago with the original GN?R lineup.

As a whole, the performance was an exercise in bloated excess and offered a complete larger-than-life rock show package. Too bad the audience wasn?t livelier, but this was solely due to the band?s late start. Although the first four songs (?Welcome to the Jungle?, ?It?s So Easy?, ?Mr. Brownstone?, and ?Live and Let Die?) bedazzled the remaining spectators with explosions and pyrotechnics, many continued to hold up defiant middle fingers. Axl responded with a weak explanation, ?We apologize for our tardiness, but in the words of the great David Lee Roth, ?I don?t feel tardy!?? Individual solos before crowd-pleasers like ?Sweet Child ?O? Mine? and ?November Rain? also dragged on the performance. Furthermore, GN?R previewed four Chinese Democracy cuts like the rave-up rocker ?Better? and new ballad ?There Was a Time?. The new material wasn?t half-bad, but hardly the brilliance one expects from one of the longest-delayed albums since Zach De La Rocha?s yet-to-be-released solo debut.

Midway through, Rose asked the audience if they were awake because they weren?t close to being finished. This prompted most of the crowd on the floor to leave and the lower level seats also emptied significantly. Sebastian Bach made a brief cameo onstage with GN?R for ?My Michelle? and, shortly thereafter, they closed with the one-two punch of ?Patience? and ?Nightrain?. GN?R concluded with ?Paradise City? around 3:00 AM and, by this time, a third of the main attendees remained to witness streams of confetti and smoke filter through Hilton. Ultimately, Axl and his band may feel shameless about forcing their fans wait for them, but those same fans might not feel the need wait around much longer for Chinese Democracy.


The 411: This could have easily been called the "Tour of the Has-beens". With the exception of Helmet's disappointing metal-by-numbers set, each act satiated the appetites of those who paid to see a rock show. However, the only point proven by tonight's headliners and Sebastian Bach is that people will willingly shell out $75 to experience a piece of nostalgia, no matter how bland or turgid it is.   
Final Score:  5.0   [ Not So Good ]  legend
 
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« Reply #148 on: December 07, 2006, 11:11:04 AM »

yeah, they watched almost the entire set before going back into the dressing room.? It was cool to see Robin in street clothes.? He seemed really upbeat, even backstage.?

I've been thinking all week how incredible Robin was.? He's definitely my new guitar hero.

Where did they watch it from?  The stage?
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« Reply #149 on: December 07, 2006, 08:27:11 PM »

yeah, they watched almost the entire set before going back into the dressing room.? It was cool to see Robin in street clothes.? He seemed really upbeat, even backstage.?

I've been thinking all week how incredible Robin was.? He's definitely my new guitar hero.

Where did they watch it from?? The stage?

if you were looking at the stage they came out on the right and there was a fenced off gap between the floor and the lower level seats....and they were kind of even with the front row of the floor.  There were alot of people they were with, including some Suicide girls.  Bach watched GNR's set from the same spot. 
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