* Hiroshima: Pictures they Didn't want us to see

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

http://fogonazos.blogspot.com/2007/02/hiroshima-pictures-they-didnt-want-us_05.html

attention Graphic imagery.

Please do NOT try to justify the bomb with your classical " it ended the war, it could have been worse " - there are too many recent exemples in international crisis involving the usa that just blow that escuse away.


PEACE

[Sin Cut]

Yeah, it saved lives.

[Izzy]

Its now been shown Japan offered to surrender long before the bombs fell - all this talk about the lives an invasion would have cost is nonsense, Japan was finished and would have surrendered with nothing more than a blockade

The main reason the bombs were dropped was as a negotiating ploy with the Soviet Union, and obviously to see what damage they could do - the US refused to arrange a testing for Japanese observers to convince them to give up

When u consider the bombs did less damage and killed less people than a regular bomber mission there wasnt even a tactical reason for doing it

Yeah, it saved lives.

who's?

Oh wait, there was going to be a huge invasion in 1946 - and what pray tell, would the Japanese have used against the Americans without any remaining oil? Horse drawn tanks? They didnt even have cities left by that point

and here's a fact for u

Curtis Lemay head of the USAF in the pacific was ordered in early 1945 to save two cities for ''special treatment'' - Nagaski was chosen whn the geography of the initial target was deemed as liabel to contain damage - those bombs were going down on Japan reagrdless of the military situation

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

Yeah, it saved lives.

I dont understand? You *know* what would have happened?
Will you sacrifice your mom, dad and little sister in order to save 50 strangers?

Tell me more about your train of thoughts.

[Sin Cut]

Izzy: Yeah, horse drawn tanks and with kamikazeplanes lifted to the air with hot air baloons and the the landtroops would be the legendary samurais.

Whatever: Well, maybe my dad.

[SkinnyPuppy]

Yeah, it saved lives.

think before you say something stupid

[Sin Cut]

Yeah, it saved lives.

think before you say something stupid

I usually hit first, just ask anybody 

[zman]

Ohwell what is done is done. I personally beleave we did the right thing, listening to my grandfathers tales of being a prisoner of war and surviving the Bataan Death March. Japanese soldiers where savage animals.

[Jim Bob]

No where does it mention that the Japanese attacked the U.S. FIRST.   

[Sin Cut]

Yeah, well these civillians had nothing to do with it.

There were some wicked pics about T?ernobyl, about the people working to seal the meltdown reactor. That's sad too, since most of those men didn't know they were going to die soon.

We've been planning to rent some bike's and drive through the area with a friend or two.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

Ohwell what is done is done. I personally beleave we did the right thing, listening to my grandfathers tales of being a prisoner of war and surviving the Bataan Death March. Japanese soldiers where savage animals.

So you understand al-quaida wanting to kill the people in NYC ? Those savage fat americans ? right ?
Just want to make sure, you're not speaking under the emotion.

[zman]

Nor did the civillians at Pearl Harbour.

[zman]

Ohwell what is done is done. I personally beleave we did the right thing, listening to my grandfathers tales of being a prisoner of war and surviving the Bataan Death March. Japanese soldiers where savage animals.

So you understand al-quaida wanting to kill the people in NYC ? Those savage fat americans ? right ?
Just want to make sure, you're not speaking under the emotion.

NOPE!

What the hell does that have to do with the killing during World War 2?

How are we FAT SAVAGE AMERICANS?

I do not see us Brutally killing PRISONERS OF WAR!

[Sin Cut]

Nor did the civillians at Pearl Harbour.

true enough.

I just watched some pics of the civillians russians killed during the winter war back in 1939. Well the girls we're raped first, that's when they gave guns to families at the border towns.

Here's a nice fact about casualties tho;
Finland:
26,662 dead
39,886 wounded
1,000 captured

Russia, or Soviet Union
126,875 dead or missing
264,908 wounded
3,100 captured

[Sin Cut]

Ohwell what is done is done. I personally beleave we did the right thing, listening to my grandfathers tales of being a prisoner of war and surviving the Bataan Death March. Japanese soldiers where savage animals.

So you understand al-quaida wanting to kill the people in NYC ? Those savage fat americans ? right ?
Just want to make sure, you're not speaking under the emotion.

Are you referring Americans to al-quaida?

I think that's a bit low.

Even tho what happened in Hiroshima isn't nice it happened when two nations were at war.

These terror-acts.. well it's sneaky and cowardly, kinda like some people, who don't have the guts to fight you and try to hurt you some other ways.

[zman]

Nor did the civillians at Pearl Harbour.

true enough.

I just watched some pics of the civillians russians killed during the winter war back in 1939. Well the girls we're raped first, that's when they gave guns to families at the border towns.

Here's a nice fact about casualties tho;
Finland:
26,662 dead
39,886 wounded
1,000 captured

Russia, or Soviet Union
126,875 dead or missing
264,908 wounded
3,100 captured

Don't forget the Jewish casualties.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

Well.
where can i begin ... here.

I guess i'll let you guys re-read what you wrote.

It goes from a calm, wise, polite writing of "these japanese soldiers were savages ", and " i'm sorry, we had to do it ... "
Very dramatic effect, The deep voice, the wise eyes.

To anger and wrath " NOPE !! IT IS NOT THE SAME THING !! "
- notice the use or caps, zman.


Terror-act ? are you sure it's not a war? Why can't it be a war?
So there are *rules* in war? Really ?

[mrlee]

clearly it was an excuse for them to test a new weapon......on real targets.

Just like every tragedy, very few of them happen for the reasons given....just look at all the various theories on 9/11

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

after read sin cut and zman, i guess i didnt attract the right person in this thread ... damn it.
i thought i only had to look out for the trollish walk comments ... i guess it's not that easy.

[The Dog]

Its now been shown Japan offered to surrender long before the bombs fell - all this talk about the lives an invasion would have cost is nonsense, Japan was finished and would have surrendered with nothing more than a blockade

The main reason the bombs were dropped was as a negotiating ploy with the Soviet Union, and obviously to see what damage they could do - the US refused to arrange a testing for Japanese observers to convince them to give up

When u consider the bombs did less damage and killed less people than a regular bomber mission there wasnt even a tactical reason for doing it

Yeah, it saved lives.

who's?

Oh wait, there was going to be a huge invasion in 1946 - and what pray tell, would the Japanese have used against the Americans without any remaining oil? Horse drawn tanks? They didnt even have cities left by that point

and here's a fact for u

Curtis Lemay head of the USAF in the pacific was ordered in early 1945 to save two cities for ''special treatment'' - Nagaski was chosen whn the geography of the initial target was deemed as liabel to contain damage - those bombs were going down on Japan reagrdless of the military situation

Izzy, i think you need to read up on your history more - the japanese were going to fight till the last man.  they were training civilian armys to fight with sharpened bamboo sticks.  the estimated casulties on the allies side (not just the US - the brits would have suffered terribly as well) were through the room. 

Contrary to what many people think, it wasn't really the bomb that ended the pacific war, but the firebombing campaigns the US carried out (which were just as devastating as nukes).  The firebomb campaign was literally wiping out cities, killing thousands at at time.  With or without nukes, the fire bomb campaign was so devastating it would have ended the war.

showing graphic pictures is a nice way to play on peoples emotions, but it doesn't tell the whole story.  Read up on how the japanese killed/raped the chinese for years.  the same civilians in the pictures wat-ever posted celebrated the kiling and raping of the chinese.

its ugly, but its war.  we can all agree its brutal and savage - but to say "oh they shouldn't have done it" is just narrow minded and naieve.  maybe they should have thought about the repurcussions before they bombed pearl harbor. 

Got any pics of that to show wat-ever???

and those pics are hardly "ones they don't want us to see"  who is "they" anyways?     I would bet all of those were published years ago.  some look very familiar - i think TIME magazine had a big article on the bomb a while ago.