Absurd US sentencing as man gets 200 years for porn charges

[Bodhi]

you are truly lost my friend.....does it feel good to stick up for the scum that look at child porn?? seriously...do you feel better about yourself for taking this stand?

Do you feel good about wanting a stranger dead?

It's not about sticking up for him, it's the principle.

do i feel good about wanting a sick fuck who looks at child porn who will probably act on it dead?? hmm yes....

[polluxlm]

you are truly lost my friend.....does it feel good to stick up for the scum that look at child porn?? seriously...do you feel better about yourself for taking this stand?

Do you feel good about wanting a stranger dead?

It's not about sticking up for him, it's the principle.

do i feel good about wanting a sick fuck who looks at child porn who will probably act on it dead?? hmm yes....

Well, then you got a problem my friend. How about focusing on your own life.

[25]

you are truly lost my friend.....does it feel good to stick up for the scum that look at child porn?  seriously...do you feel better about yourself for taking this stand?

Taking a stand? Just giving voice to the obvious flaw in the so-called logic behind these "zero-tolerance" positions. This guy got 200 years for looking at pictures - meanwhile, bona-fide convicted child molesters serve much shorter sentences before being released back into society. Which guy are you more worried about, the one waxing his carrot to pictures or the ex-con hanging around  the playground?  Your choice, we can lock up all of the people who download child porn or we can track down the criminals creating and distributing it, not to mention the private practitioners. I certainly don't see anyone advocating a tax increase so that both are feasible options.

Why don't we just lock-up everyone that we find creepy? Call it "suspicion of social disfunction." It's got a nice ring to it. I'm sure we'd all benefit from the false sense of security.

[Bodhi]

you are truly lost my friend.....does it feel good to stick up for the scum that look at child porn?? seriously...do you feel better about yourself for taking this stand?

Do you feel good about wanting a stranger dead?

It's not about sticking up for him, it's the principle.

do i feel good about wanting a sick fuck who looks at child porn who will probably act on it dead?? hmm yes....

Well, then you got a problem my friend. How about focusing on your own life.

i have a problem for wanting a sick pervert dead? i think YOU need to do the focusing on your own life for having such a warped view of the world...ill tell you..you bleeding heart liberals make me want to throw up with some of the things you take stands for...standing up for someones rights is one thing..but you need to know where to draw the line...

[25]

do i feel good about wanting a sick fuck who looks at child porn who will probably act on it dead?? hmm yes....

Having 500 pictures of the Sydney Opera House doesn't make you an architect.
Yes, child porn is despicable. So are murder and rape, why should looking at pictures get you a longer mandatory sentence than actively participating in those two crimes?

[Bodhi]

you are truly lost my friend.....does it feel good to stick up for the scum that look at child porn?? seriously...do you feel better about yourself for taking this stand?

Taking a stand? Just giving voice to the obvious flaw in the so-called logic behind these "zero-tolerance" positions. This guy got 200 years for looking at pictures - meanwhile, bona-fide convicted child molesters serve much shorter sentences before being released back into society. Which guy are you more worried about, the one waxing his carrot to pictures or the ex-con hanging around? the playground?? Your choice, we can lock up all of the people who download child porn or we can track down the criminals creating and distributing it, not to mention the private practitioners. I certainly don't see anyone advocating a tax increase so that both are feasible options.

Why don't we just lock-up everyone that we find creepy? Call it "suspicion of social disfunction." It's got a nice ring to it. I'm sure we'd all benefit from the false sense of security.

which part of LOOKING AT CHILD PORN IS AGAINST THE LAW do you not understand...and I am with you..child molestors should serve way harder sentences than they do..but thats what you have in this country when these liberal judges...yes I said liberal judges..god knows conservative judges would give them all the death penalty if they could....liberal judges are the ones putting them back out on the streets...take a look at what is going on in Vermont...its insanity

[Bodhi]

do i feel good about wanting a sick fuck who looks at child porn who will probably act on it dead?? hmm yes....

Having 500 pictures of the Sydney Opera House doesn't make you an architect.
Yes, child porn is despicable. So are murder and rape, why should looking at pictures get you a longer mandatory sentence than actively participating in those two crimes?

im with you on this...they shouldnt get a longer sentence...they should ALL have the book thrown at them....

[25]

which part of LOOKING AT CHILD PORN IS AGAINST THE LAW do you not understand...

It's not a question of the legality, or even of the punishment fitting the crime. What galls me about it is  the time, effort and money that will be wasted on the guy for what is, in essence, the most minor level of participation in the criminal act. If it wasn't for the need to pander to the emotional aspects of the crime, this guy would be slapped with a GPS transmitter and have his internet activity monitored and all of the money saved by not having to babysit him for the rest of his life could be put towards actually tackling the root cause of the problem.  Sure, it's probably impossible to completely irradicate any kind of crime, but you have a much better chance of limiting it if you have the resources to fight it.

[polluxlm]

i have a problem for wanting a sick pervert dead? i think YOU need to do the focusing on your own life for having such a warped view of the world...ill tell you..you bleeding heart liberals make me want to throw up with some of the things you take stands for...standing up for someones rights is one thing..but you need to know where to draw the line...

You what? I discuss the case, not political stands. I dislike liberals as much as conservatives.

I believe in human rights, and getting thrown in jail for life for looking at pictures is not my idea of a just society.

[Bodhi]

i have a problem for wanting a sick pervert dead? i think YOU need to do the focusing on your own life for having such a warped view of the world...ill tell you..you bleeding heart liberals make me want to throw up with some of the things you take stands for...standing up for someones rights is one thing..but you need to know where to draw the line...

You what? I discuss the case, not political stands. I dislike liberals as much as conservatives.

I believe in human rights, and getting thrown in jail for life for looking at pictures is not my idea of a just society.

defending the rights of child molestors or even sick perverts who look at child porn is generally a liberal stance...well its ALWAYS a liberal stance..that is why I said that...in light of what you have said I take that back..with all the arguing going on in this thread we have forgotten about the facts of this case...This is a TEACHER who is around children ALL THE TIME..who also has a thing for CHILD PORN...i think those factors make this a different case than the average person looking at child porn....

[25]

with all the arguing going on in this thread we have forgotten about the facts of this case...This is a TEACHER who is around children ALL THE TIME..who also has a thing for CHILD PORN...i think those factors make this a different case than the average person looking at child porn....

It just makes the situation more morally troubling. It doesn't change the nature or the severity of the crime though. It does often seem to be that teachers are involved in this sort of thing in a disproportionately large percentage of the cases that we hear about. Of course, that could simply be due to media preference rather than any more insidious reason. Then again, proximity and access are usually factors in criminal behavior.

[polluxlm]

defending the rights of child molestors or even sick perverts who look at child porn is generally a liberal stance...well its ALWAYS a liberal stance..that is why I said that...in light of what you have said I take that back..with all the arguing going on in this thread we have forgotten about the facts of this case...This is a TEACHER who is around children ALL THE TIME..who also has a thing for CHILD PORN...i think those factors make this a different case than the average person looking at child porn....

First off, he's not a child molestor. We don't convict people on assumptions in western society, or at least that's the original idea.

And yes, he was a teacher with a fondness for child pornography. But as far as we and the court know he has never crossed the line and acted out on his urges. Of course he should be banned from working with children again, after all there is a high probability risk, I agree with that. But putting him in jail for life when he hasn't hurt anyone is just absurd. It smells more of satisfying one selfish needs than it does justice.

[Bodhi]

defending the rights of child molestors or even sick perverts who look at child porn is generally a liberal stance...well its ALWAYS a liberal stance..that is why I said that...in light of what you have said I take that back..with all the arguing going on in this thread we have forgotten about the facts of this case...This is a TEACHER who is around children ALL THE TIME..who also has a thing for CHILD PORN...i think those factors make this a different case than the average person looking at child porn....

First off, he's not a child molestor. We don't convict people on assumptions in western society, or at least that's the original idea.

And yes, he was a teacher with a fondness for child pornography. But as far as we and the court know he has never crossed the line and acted out on his urges. Of course he should be banned from working with children again, after all there is a high probability risk, I agree with that. But putting him in jail for life when he hasn't hurt anyone is just absurd. It smells more of satisfying one selfish needs than it does justice.

he is supporting the child porn industry..thus he is indirectly effecting the kids in the pics who were molested....just supporting that act makes him wrong on so many levels...im with you that he should be kept away from children for life...but i also think he should get some serious jail time..is life imprisonment fair...probably not...but you have to understand I have no repect for the rights of perverts......i dont think they are entitled to rights..they are not human beings like the rest of us...anybody that gets pleasure out of the pain of a child gives up his rights IMO...its that a completely rational opinion? no...but im far from a completely rational person when it comes to certain things....

[polluxlm]

Punishment and jail time is fair, but life or 200 years is overdoing it. After all, this guy didn't chose to be born with this defect. He did chose to break the law though, but there are much worse things out there that the justice system should concentrate on.

[meanmachine73]

As a tax payer, I resent the fact that my tax contribution is paid to monitor people like this man who have commited such hideous crimes.

In the UK each prisoner costs approx ?400.00 per week ($750) to keep locked-up. In my opinion The death penalty should be much more widely used. A sex offender/murderer/rapist/peodphiles sentence serving a 30 year sentence costs the state ?6,420.000 ($11,610.000) surely even on a financial footing there is a case to execute the filth...

Those crimes I mentioned above are all surely worthy of receiving the death sentence. I hope that there isnt anyone that will try and defend these animals.

[polluxlm]

As a tax payer, I resent the fact that my tax contribution is paid to monitor people like this man who have commited such hideous crimes.

In the UK each prisoner costs approx ?400.00 per week ($750) to keep locked-up. In my opinion The death penalty should be much more widely used. A sex offender/murderer/rapist/peodphiles sentence serving a 30 year sentence costs the state ?6,420.000 ($11,610.000) surely even on a financial footing there is a case to execute the filth...

Those crimes I mentioned above are all surely worthy of receiving the death sentence. I hope that there isnt anyone that will try and defend these animals.

The death penalty? Then what about all of those people (it's alot) that suffer from wrongfull incarcination?

Killing people who might be innocent just to save money sounds more like The Third Reich or USSR than it does a democracy.

[meanmachine73]

I havent suggested that people are sentenced if there is reasonable doubt.

Todays technology is far advanced, if it isnt 100% conclusive then there is a case of imprisonment.

In all other cases, give me the switch. In the case of peodophiles such is the case in question, give me a baseball bat with 8inch nails hammered through it and put me in a room with the scum bags.

[freedom78]

As a tax payer, I resent the fact that my tax contribution is paid to monitor people like this man who have commited such hideous crimes.

In the UK each prisoner costs approx ?400.00 per week ($750) to keep locked-up. In my opinion The death penalty should be much more widely used. A sex offender/murderer/rapist/peodphiles sentence serving a 30 year sentence costs the state ?6,420.000 ($11,610.000) surely even on a financial footing there is a case to execute the filth...

Those crimes I mentioned above are all surely worthy of receiving the death sentence. I hope that there isnt anyone that will try and defend these animals.

While I appreciate your desire for fiscal responsibility, the idea of executing criminals for the sake of saving money is among the most repugnant ideas I've ever heard.  Hell, the elderly are a drain on the system, too!  Let's humanely off them!  In the US, we'll suddenly have no social security problem, and the environmental benefits abound, as there will be fewer guilt forced trips to visit grandma in the home! 

[CheapJon]

what's absurd is that in sweden, a guy who has raped and abused like 14 women and i think killed one got 14 years

[polluxlm]

what's absurd is that in sweden, a guy who has raped and abused like 14 women and i think killed one got 14 years

And that's an example of the court being tough. We live in kindergarten up there.