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^ that it pretty much it . well their is also the back end deals .
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Quote from: Timothy on May 07, 2007, 09:57:43 AM
^ that it pretty much it . well their is also the back end deals .
True, the points will cut into that amount, too....so maybe they haven't started to MAKE money yet, but they're pretty close by the looks of things. I'd guess by the end of next weekend...
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Quote from: pilferk on May 07, 2007, 10:17:54 AM
Quote from: Timothy on May 07, 2007, 09:57:43 AM
^ that it pretty much it . well their is also the back end deals .
True, the points will cut into that amount, too....so maybe they haven't started to MAKE money yet, but they're pretty close by the looks of things. I'd guess by the end of next weekend...
Course that is also depending on how well it holds up . the film could be and probable is very front loaded.they will make a little back . but with the budget being hire then what is being said by the studio . the real money want be seen till it hit home video market. course then you have the tv rights. ECT.
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the movie was good,? not the greatest-? but after not being too impressed with spiderman 1or2,? i did'nt get my hopes up as high this time.? ?
people compliain of too many stories,? i did'nt mind so much-? hell i could have used 2 more villians,? add Rhino and Electro in there for some more fun.? its not that there was two many stories,? just the stories are boring,? i've seen harry be mad at peter,? and i seen peter whine about his uncle too.
venom was cool,? the only thing that would have pissed me off is if venom and spidey did'nt get to have a decent fight,? i was worried the shot in the previews of spidey ripping off the suit at the bell tower would be the last scene.? and it was dumb that the symbiote was on that meteorite instead of astronauts finding it in space-? but it was supposed to save time.
who really watched the first goblin/parker fight and complained it was too dark?? you are nitpicking- i saw everything just fine.
and... i just read too that the studio has picked up the rights to do 3 MORE spiderman movies,? who will be attached to direct/star is still up in the air.?
http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-05-07/#3?
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and... what would be everyones opinion if the new spiderman was played by a different actor-? can spiderman be like james bond in that regards?
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I have changed my mind..
The movie is crap.. some fun scenes-animated effects etc
but
They fucked Venom over.
Venom is like the coolest nemesis Spiderman ever will have.
And they made him a wimp.
And he scene with the american flag....jesus....buddha...allah...
And the plot and everything was not neat.
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Quote from: pilferk on May 07, 2007, 10:17:54 AM
Quote from: Timothy on May 07, 2007, 09:57:43 AM
^ that it pretty much it . well their is also the back end deals .
True, the points will cut into that amount, too....so maybe they haven't started to MAKE money yet, but they're pretty close by the looks of things. I'd guess by the end of next weekend...
"Points" don't figure into the equation until the studio makes break-even. And that's "break-even" as defined by the studio, so most points deals have a dollar value of nil (unless you have full accounting, which only Arnold and Tom Cruise have managed if I remember correctly - and Cruise had to wave his acting fee to get it for his production company.)
As I said before, the studio can't fail to turn a profit on this movie. No point trying to get your head around the figures, the bottom line is that every penny Spider-Man 3 brings in is pure profit, the franchise paid for itself with the first movie. But I'm sure that the producers and execs are touched that we're so concerned about their financial well-being.
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Quote from: Rubber Bullets on May 07, 2007, 11:38:14 AM
They fucked Venom over.
Venom is like the coolest nemesis Spiderman ever will have.
Venom's so cool that New Line bought the rights to the character and then spent the better part of a decade not making a movie about him. He's just ripe with potential!
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Studio's get most of the receipts which is why Concession prices are so fucking high. Thats how the theater makes money.
http://movies.go.com/boxoffice?CMP=ILC-Flash1
Production budget was 258 million. IT made over 375 million in itsf irst week worldwide.
This movie is gonna profit HUGE.
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Quote from: D on May 07, 2007, 02:57:12 PM
Studio's get most of the receipts which is why Concession prices are so fucking high. Thats how the theater makes money.
http://movies.go.com/boxoffice?CMP=ILC-Flash1
Production budget was 258 million. IT made over 375 million in itsf irst week worldwide.
This movie is gonna profit HUGE.
yeah the movie is going to make a good bank more then I thought it would for the studio.
The Concession prices are so high because that is the sure fire thing at the theater.
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Quote from: pilferk on May 07, 2007, 10:17:54 AM
Quote from: Timothy on May 07, 2007, 09:57:43 AM
^ that it pretty much it . well their is also the back end deals .
True, the points will cut into that amount, too....so maybe they haven't started to MAKE money yet, but they're pretty close by the looks of things. I'd guess by the end of next weekend...
"Points" don't figure into the equation until the studio makes break-even. And that's "break-even" as defined by the studio, so most points deals have a dollar value of nil (unless you have full accounting, which only Arnold and Tom Cruise have managed if I remember correctly - and Cruise had to wave his acting fee to get it for his production company.)
As I said before, the studio can't fail to turn a profit on this movie. No point trying to get your head around the figures, the bottom line is that every penny Spider-Man 3 brings in is pure profit, the franchise paid for itself with the first movie. But I'm sure that the producers and execs are touched that we're so concerned about their financial well-being.
You forgote Jack Nickelson , Peter Jackson.James Camron, bruce Willis hell I could go on and one with the cats who have and have back end deals with their projects.
believe me the could fail to turn a profit , see superman returns.
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lol - how come we're talking about the money?
Obviously they'll make money some how
The more pressing issue is what a bad job Mr Raimi made of this film.
With all the bad dialogue, effects and plotting - i honestly wonder if Bryan Singer or Brett Ratner (the go-to guys for crap superhero films) could have made it any worse
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Quote from: Izzy on May 07, 2007, 04:20:45 PM
lol - how come we're talking about the money?
Obviously they'll make money some how
The more pressing issue is what a bad job Mr Raimi made of this film.
With all the bad dialogue, effects and plotting - i honestly wonder if Bryan Singer or Brett Ratner (the go-to guys for crap superhero films) could have made it any worse
Why are we talking about the money??? oh, wait I know it is more interesting the the actual movie.
Singer should never be allowed to touch a super hero movie ever again. And I quess Ratner too.
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Quote from: Timothy on May 07, 2007, 04:24:52 PM
Why are we talking about the money??? oh, wait I know it is more interesting the the actual movie.
ah yes, now i remember
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Singer should never be allowed to touch a super hero movie ever again. And I quess Ratner too.
but they brought us such gems as Superman Returns and X Men 3
If Singer had directed Spiderman 3....
...Spiderman would have left New York for several years, returning almost to the day (conveniently) that Sandman decided to cover New York in sand. We'd get no real explanation as to why he'd want to do this but we'd have our attention diverted from the absurd plot by the shocking revalation that Venom is Spidey's son, and that all the charaters are a fraction of the age they should be. The film would conclude with Spiderman moving New York to Kansas.
If Brett Ratner had directed.....
...we'd have villians both old and new appearing everywhere, though no one would be introduced, and we'd never be sure why they are following Sandman in the first place.
Venom would be super powerful though would stand ideally in the corner as if waiting for a command thats never given
The plot would involve Sandman trying to destroy a water bottling plant but - despite having the ability to crush it from afar with any of a number of heavy objects such as giant bridges - he's instead order his associates to run into Spiderman's web, which they'd do without any real explanation as to why they'd be so stupid
The film would end with Mary Jane, Aunt May and Spiderman all dying as if the whole objective of the film was to ensure the impossibility of a sequal. At the end of the credits we'd have a scene where Brett Ratner points and laughs at the audience.
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This movie is garbage! I felt like leaving half way through.
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Quote from: Izzy on May 07, 2007, 04:20:45 PM
The more pressing issue is what a bad job Mr Raimi made of this film.
With all the bad dialogue, effects and plotting - i honestly wonder if Bryan Singer or Brett Ratner (the go-to guys for crap superhero films) could have made it any worse
Man, I've let you spout your rubbish for long enough, but I'm not having that one.
Do you want to know who ruined this movie? You! Well, people like you.
If you fan-boys-without-a-clue (ie. those who saw the cartoon) got a clue, hadn't have made a big fuss about bloody Venom then the studio (ever intent on what will make a good
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, eh? (we were just talking about money, right?)) wouldn't have forced him to be crowbarred in there.
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Venom was so pointless and was treated like a complete afterthought.
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Quote from: D on May 07, 2007, 10:14:16 PM
Venom was so pointless and was treated like a complete afterthought.
the main thing is they just tried to squeeze to much in it. it's is basically two maybe even three movies worth of store lines in one flick.
the Harry stuff should have been the main focus. then sandman at the end .ext.
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I haven't seen it yet, but I've seen enough previews to know it looks as though it'll be just what I'm expecting: a
big-budget-over-the-top-special-effects-Hollywood-blockbuster-superhero movie
, and that's just fine by me!
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Quote from: Timothy on May 07, 2007, 04:08:31 PM
You forgote Jack Nickelson , Peter Jackson.James Camron, bruce Willis hell I could go on and one with the cats who have and have back end deals with their projects.
I didn't forget them, they just didn't have
full accounting
(. . . as far as I'm aware. Not sure about Pete Jackson actually, he must have had some variation if he's suing New Line over his split of the Rings money.)
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this movie sucked, spider man 1 is the only good one and they are gonna have to pull a "casino royale" or "batman begins" to save the spiderman series
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From movies.ign.com
Sony Plans Spidey's Future
Saying that he was "really over the moon" about the record-breaking $382 million worldwide debut of Spider-Man 3, Sony Pictures chief executive Michael Lynton is already reportedly mapping out the franchise's future.
"Everybody has every intention of making a fourth, a fifth and a sixth and on and on," Lynton informed the BBC. He sees the series lasting for "as many as we can make good stories for."
"Everybody's been so busy trying to get this one out that that's been the focus," he added. "When everybody comes up for air, we can think about how to make the next one."
That would seem to include cast and crew, although that hasn't stopped the rumor mill from offering up a name about who might succeed Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane Watson. According to CinemaBlend.com, Mandy Moore, Alexis Bledel and Camilla Belle are contenders for the role.
The site adds, "Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Jake Gyllenhall are the front runners as of now [to replace Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker] but word is that a third name might be thrown in the mix as well."
They also suggest that a new director may be tapped as well since Raimi would want more control over Spidey 4.
CinemaBlend's scooper claims "those in Sony don't want to give Tobey or the returning cast that kind of money because they want to lock the cast down for the next three films instead of one and they want to do it cheaply, so they are looking at other actors to continue the franchise in a cheaper way and if the movie opens big and makes a boat load of cash, Tobey and the cast has a huge advantage in negotiations."
It's a no-brainer that Sony wants the Spidey gravy train to keep rolling. For example, of the $148 million that Spider-Man 3 earned in its stateside opening, a record-setting $4.8 million of that came from IMAX screenings. The picture also broke the record for IMAX's largest single day worldwide total at $2.2 million and posted a remarkable domestic opening weekend per screen average of $57,147.
I'm not surprised by the studio looking for a new director, as Raimi was apparently fully against venom and several other things about spiderman 3 from the get go but was pressured by the studio. So it makes sense that the studio would want someone that would not argue with them over everything. They should have let him make his movie instead of forcing him to make it their movie with his touches.
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