"Your friends have a high mortality rate Bill."

[polluxlm]

Murders and deaths associated with the Clintons:

-James McDougal Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement.

-Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown.

-Vince Foster Former White House councelor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

-Ron Brown Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash.

-C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

-Paul Tulley Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992.

-Ed Willey Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head.

-Jerry Parks Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock.

-James Bunch Died from a gunshot suicide.

-James Wilson Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide.

-Kathy Ferguson Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May 1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot to her head.

-Bill Shelton Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his fiancee.

-Gandy Baugh Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994.

-Florence Martin Accountant sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.

-Suzanne Coleman Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide.

-Paula Grober Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

-Danny Casolaro Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

-Paul Wilcher Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

Suzanne Coleman. Rumor of affair with Clinton, her then law professor died of a "suicide" with gunshot wound to the back of her head. No autopsy performed.

Mary Caitrin Mahoney. Shot to death July 6, 1997. An attractive 25 year old woman, Mary was a former "Clinton White House intern working as the Assistant Manager at a Starbuck?s coffee shop in Georgetown. Rumoured to go public with sexual harassment claims. Mary's two co-workers were taken to a room and shot. Mary was brutally shot five times, no money was taken.

Monica told Vernon Jordan " I don't want to wind-up like Mary Mahoney"

Eric Butera. Informant. Offered information regarding the Starbucks murders but was sent into a known crack house to make an undercover buy. There, he was beaten to death, taking with him what he knew of Mary Mahoney?s execution

Judy Gibbs. Burned to death. Former Penthouse Pet and call girl counted Bill Clinton among her clients Agreed to help police in an investigation into Arkansas cocaine trafficking in exchange for dismissal of criminal charges Was burned to death shortly thereafter.

Vincent Foster. White House Counsel. Found dead in Ft. Marcy Park in Washington, DC, of a supposed suicide by gunshot.

Jerry Parks. Head of Clinton's Gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at an intersection 9/26/93. Parks had been compiling a dossier on Clinton's illicit activities. The dossier was stolen.


Paul Wilcher. Washington attorney investigating government corruption died: 6/22/93. Found dead on a toilet in his Washington apartment. No cause of death was ever determined.

Ron Miller. An unusual death. Ron provided key evidence that convicted Nora and Gene Lum for laundering Clinton campaign donations died in manner so strange that his doctors ordered special postmortem tests Ron had gone from perfect health to death in just one week! Results of the test have never been released, but toxicologist familiar with the case suggest that Miller's symptoms re consistent with Ricin, a cold war assassin's poison

Sandy Hume. Journalist. Found dead February 22nd 1998 in his Arlington, Virginia home from a suicide.

Kathy Furguson. Ex-wife of Trooper Danny Furguson died: circa 5/94. Died of a supposed gunshot suicide in her living room.

Florence Martin. Accountant subcontracting to CIA Executed October 1994.

Gandy Baugh. Attorney representing Mr. Lassater in a case concerning alleged financial misconduct died: circa 5/94 Died in an alleged suicide by jumping out of a window of a multi-story building.

William Colby. Suicide on April 28, 1996. Former Director of the CIA Editor of "Strategic Investment" finacial newsletter, consultant to many corporations and former CIA Director. William Colby joined the list of those who by fate, crossed paths with Clinton, then died.

Darlene Novinger. Former FBI operative, alive. Holds sensitive information on the current and previous administration's drug operations Husband murdered March 1987 when she went public with initial reports.

Her father died July 8, 1993 four hours after Darlene was a guest on the Tom Valentine show Top of Form 1

Captain Schic. Air traffic controller. Suicide. The Air Force cancelled the investigation.

Cpl Eric S. Fox. Crewman for Marine One, the Presidential Helicopter. He was shot in the head, and declared a suicide March 19, 1999 Fox's body and a gun were discovered in his car, a black 1994 Nissan 300 ZX.

Dr. Ronald Rogers. Dentist from Arkanasas. Killed in plane crash as he was on his way to an interview with a "London Sunday Telegraph reporter to reveal some dirt on Clinton.

James Bunch. Influential Texan. Died from a gunshot suicide, similar to Vince Foster.

Steve Willis. Clinton Bodyguard died: 2/28/93. 1 of 4 Clinton bodygaurds "executed" by gunfire in the Waco Texas assault on the Branch Davidians.

[polluxlm]

Bill Shelton. Arkansas state trooper and fiancee of Kathy Furgeson died: 6/94. Allegedly committed suicide by shooting himself at the gravesite of his fiancee.

Barbera Wise. Commerce Department Staffer died: 11/29/96

Ron Brown. Died: 4/3/96. Died along with 34 other people when the T-43 carrying the group on a trip to Croatia. A inward beveling, was found in the top of Ron Brown's head and X-rays revealed a shower of metallic fragments, a common signiture of a bullet wound. The x-rays were reported missing then never to have existed

Ron Brown's death brought to an end the investigations into the Commerce Department.

Niko Jerkuic. Maintenace Chief in the Radio Shack at Cilipi Airport. Killed by a shot to the chest, considered a suicide.

Jordan Kettleson. Had information on the Henry deaths. He was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup on June 25, 1990.

Charles Meissner. Assistant Secretary of Commerce for International Economic Policy died: April 3, 1996
Meissner had given John Huang a special security clearance, then shortly thereafter, Charles Meissner, Shelly Kelly and 14 Commerce department staffers died on the same flight that took Ron Brown to his death.

Steve Dickson. Counsel to Stanley Heard died: 9/10/93. Both died in a rented single engine plane that caught fire and crashed outside Dulles airport shortly after takeoff.

Charles Wilbourne Miller. Died 1/12/99. Found shot to death with two guns. Multiple shots had been fired. Declared a suicide.

Paul Olson. Died Sept 8, 1994. Died in a USAir airplane crash, while returning home from being interviewed for two days by Federal investigators.

Keith McKaskle. Stabbed to death in November 1988.

Richard Winters. Winters was a suspect in the deaths of Ives & Henry he was killed in a "robbery" in July 1989, which was subsequently proven to be a setup.

Maynard Webb. Owned a small aircraft repair business, and had stumbled on several aircraft whose tail numbers were being changed on a regular basis. Was about to go public when he walked headfirst into a spinning propeller.

Shelly Kelly. Stewardess on Ron Brown's doomed flight. Shelly Kelly was in this tail section seat Survived crash of Ron Browns plane, sustained minor cuts and bruises. Died enroute to hospital. Cause of death from a 3 inch incision over her main femoral artery, approximately 11 hours after sustaining injuries in the crash.

Jon Parnell Walker. RTC investigator. Mysteriously fell to his death from an apartment balcony.

Neil Moody. Lisa Foster's step son. Died on August 25, 1996. Witnesses said they saw Neil Moody sitting in his car arguing with another person just prior to His car suddenly speeding off out of control and hitting a brick wall.

Terrance Yeakey. Died 1996. First police officer to arrive at the Murray Building following the OK City bombing One year later, his patrol car was found abandoned along a dirt road, the front seat covered with blood. Officer Yeakey himself was found a short distance away, with cut wounds on both arms and his throat, plus a gunshot through the head. No gun was ever found, and the death was ruled a suicide.

Johnny Laughton. Car crash.

Carlos Ghigliotti
Key Expert Witness in the Waco investigation Found compelling evidence that an FBI agent fired shots during the final showdown at the Branch Davidian compound. Police say they are investigating the death as a murder.

Paula Grober. Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf died: 12/9/92. Died in a one-car accident during the afternoon.

Alan G. Whicher. Died April 19, 1995. Oversaw Clinton's secret service detail. In October 1994 Whicher was transferred to the Secret Service field office in the Murray Building in Oklahoma City. Whatever warning was given to the BATF agents in that building did not reach Alan Whicher, whom died in the bomb blast of April 19th 1995.

Jim Wilhite. Vice Chairman, Arkla, Inc. died: 12/21/92. Died in a one-person skiing accident.

Gregory Collins. He died from a gunshot wound to the face in January 1989.

Don Henry. Initial cause of death was reported to be the result of falling asleep on a railroad track in Arkansas on August 23, 1987. This ruling was reported by the State medical examiner Fahmy Malak, later it was determined that Don had been stabbed in the back prior to being placed on the tracks Found dead along with Don was Kevin Ives.

Barry Seal. Gunned down with machine gun fire in the Baton Rouge, Louisiana Salvation Army Rehab parking lot.

James Milam.Killed May 1987. Decapitated. Ruled a suicide.

Keith Koney. Had information on the Ives/Henry deaths. Died in a motorcycle accident on May 17 1988.

Lance Herndon. 1995 Presidential appointee Computer specialist and prominent entrepreneur, died August 10, 1996 under suspicious circumstances. Appeared to have died from a blow to the head Police said "no weapons were found" at his mansion, he had not been shot or stabbed and there was no evidence of forced entry or theft

Hershell Friday. Attorney and Clinton Fund Raiser died: March 1, 1994. Died while attempting to make a landing at a private airstrip at night. His plane crashed, and exploded on impact.

Jeff Rhodes. He had information on the deaths of Ives/Henry & McKaskle. His burned body was found in a trash dump in April 1989. He died of gunshot wounds to the head and there had been some body mutilation.

Maj. Gen. William Robertson. Deputy Commanding General, V Corps, Europe died: 2/23/93.Killed when the helicopter he was in crashed in Weisbaden, Germany. No cause was ever determined.

Daniel A. Dutko. Co-Chairman of Leadership 2000 died: 7/27/99. Attributed to a bicycle accident in which it's claimed he struck his head on the concrete twice.

John Millis. Republican Staff Director of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence 13 year veteran of the CIA Suicide June 4, 2000.

Staff Sgt. Brian Haney. Clinton bodyguard died: 5/19/93. He and three other Clinton bodyguards died when their helicopter crashed in the woods near Quantico, Va. Reporters were barred from the site, and the head of the fire department responding to the crash described it by saying, "Security was tight," with "lots of Marines with guns."

A videotape made by a firefighter was seized by the Marines.

[GeorgeSteele]

Some additional information for context...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

[polluxlm]

Some additional information for context...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

And they call me a conspiracy theorist!

[GeorgeSteele]

Some additional information for context...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

And they call me a conspiracy theorist!

Since you mentioned it, I don't mind entertaining conspiracy theories too much.  Helps pass the time, nice diversion from things like work, mortgage payments, etc.  And whether one believes them or not, you often learn a thing or two, so long as you aren't limiting yourself to sources that draw conclusions for you.  Otherwise, my main gripe is that all the conspiracies seem to be about how I'm being victimized, which is quite a drag, but also a nice scapegoat during those times when life tends to suck.  So to keep perspective, it's nice every now and then to take a break from shouting and waving my fist in the air and, instead, indulge a theory on how to positively affect the things I can control or to just get laid.

[polluxlm]

Some additional information for context...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

And they call me a conspiracy theorist!

Since you mentioned it, I don't mind entertaining conspiracy theories too much.  Helps pass the time, nice diversion from things like work, mortgage payments, etc.  And whether one believes them or not, you often learn a thing or two, so long as you aren't limiting yourself to sources that draw conclusions for you.  Otherwise, my main gripe is that all the conspiracies seem to be about how I'm being victimized, which is quite a drag, but also a nice scapegoat during those times when life tends to suck.  So to keep perspective, it's nice every now and then to take a break from shouting and waving my fist in the air and, instead, indulge a theory on how to positively affect the things I can control or to just get laid.

A reply which refrains from implying how crazy I am. I'm impressed.

Your position is a common one. It's probably also healthy. But still subjective.

I know what thoughts went through your head, the pattern. Conscious or not. I know some assumptions are accurate. I know my intense draw to these subjects are a result of certain psychological mechanisms. But not all.

I think it's a waste of energy, on your part. And although eloquently presented, it's still arrogance.

So let's get back on topic.

[SLCPUNK]

Some additional information for context...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

Thanks, beat me to it.

[GeorgeSteele]

Some additional information for context...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

And they call me a conspiracy theorist!

Since you mentioned it, I don't mind entertaining conspiracy theories too much.? Helps pass the time, nice diversion from things like work, mortgage payments, etc.? And whether one believes them or not, you often learn a thing or two, so long as you aren't limiting yourself to sources that draw conclusions for you.? Otherwise, my main gripe is that all the conspiracies seem to be about how I'm being victimized, which is quite a drag, but also a nice scapegoat during those times when life tends to suck.? So to keep perspective, it's nice every now and then to take a break from shouting and waving my fist in the air and, instead, indulge a theory on how to positively affect the things I can control or to just get laid.

A reply which refrains from implying how crazy I am. I'm impressed.

Your position is a common one. It's probably also healthy. But still subjective.

I know what thoughts went through your head, the pattern. Conscious or not. I know some assumptions are accurate. I know my intense draw to these subjects are a result of certain psychological mechanisms. But not all.

I think it's a waste of energy, on your part. And although eloquently presented, it's still arrogance.

So let's get back on topic.

For the record, I posted information on the topic, you responded with a comment about me.  So I addressed that comment.  Sorry if you felt I was being arrogant, but I'm sort of disappointed that you resorted to doing what you usually complain about.  And it's not the first time either.  For every time that someone tells you that you belong in a cotton box, you just as often tell others to "go back to sleep" just because they disagree with you. 

[crazycheryl]

Damn, I never realized all those people died affiliated with the Clintons. Thanks for opening my eyes. How could they rule some of those deaths suicide? It is illogical. And why hasn't someone looked into this? Afraid of being killed too? That is just way too many people for any of this to be a coincidence. And I already have a bad attitude towards politicians in the US. This even fuels it more.

[fuckin crazy]

Damn, I never realized all those people died affiliated with the Clintons. Thanks for opening my eyes. How could they rule some of those deaths suicide? It is illogical. And why hasn't someone looked into this? Afraid of being killed too? That is just way too many people for any of this to be a coincidence. And I already have a bad attitude towards politicians in the US. This even fuels it more.

All those people were not associated with Clinton; the ones that are, just happen to be coincidental. I didn't read all the names, but one I did see was ex-DCI Colby. While in the past I have entertained thoughts that Colby was murdered ... I think my reasoning was that he could implicate Bush Sr. in criminal activity vis a vis Iran-Contra, it is apparent he died of a heart attack. It was a long time ago, but there was some Congressional investigation going on then. If anyone wanted to "wack" Colby, it would have been the conservatives.

[SLCPUNK]

Damn, I never realized all those people died affiliated with the Clintons. Thanks for opening my eyes. How could they rule some of those deaths suicide? It is illogical. And why hasn't someone looked into this? Afraid of being killed too? That is just way too many people for any of this to be a coincidence. And I already have a bad attitude towards politicians in the US. This even fuels it more.

I'd strongly suggest you read the snopes article posted in this thread.

[Robman?]

A random journalist died?

must've been the clinton's fault

[polluxlm]

For the record, I posted information on the topic, you responded with a comment about me.  So I addressed that comment.  Sorry if you felt I was being arrogant, but I'm sort of disappointed that you resorted to doing what you usually complain about.  And it's not the first time either.  For every time that someone tells you that you belong in a cotton box, you just as often tell others to "go back to sleep" just because they disagree with you. 

Still don't get it, do you? I don't give a shit what you perceive.

[GeorgeSteele]

For the record, I posted information on the topic, you responded with a comment about me.? So I addressed that comment.? Sorry if you felt I was being arrogant, but I'm sort of disappointed that you resorted to doing what you usually complain about.? And it's not the first time either.? For every time that someone tells you that you belong in a cotton box, you just as often tell others to "go back to sleep" just because they disagree with you.?

Still don't get it, do you? I don't give a shit what you perceive.

I get it, I'm cramping your style.  So I'll just play along and tell you how crazy you are so you can keep your street cred.

[polluxlm]

All those people were not associated with Clinton; the ones that are, just happen to be coincidental. I didn't read all the names, but one I did see was ex-DCI Colby. While in the past I have entertained thoughts that Colby was murdered ... I think my reasoning was that he could implicate Bush Sr. in criminal activity vis a vis Iran-Contra, it is apparent he died of a heart attack. It was a long time ago, but there was some Congressional investigation going on then. If anyone wanted to "wack" Colby, it would have been the conservatives.

Well, many of the names are a bit of a stretch, and some connections are yet to be proven. I don't really worry about that. It's interesting though, to see so many corpses following a person. I mean, when 2 kids are murdered with a gun and a knife, put on rail road tracks and then being ruled a 'drug accident' by the police and coroners you start wondering. When after that 6 or so teenagers/young people claim to know something about the murders end up dead, and once again the police and coroners seem to be covering shit up, well, I wasn't born yesterday.

Of course, those deaths are not easily linked to Clinton, at least not anymore...But I've heard some stories about the man, and I know very well the limits of those who put him in power, so to me none of this really surprises me.

[SLCPUNK]

Who would have guessed that the same man who headed the HIV/AIDS Initiative for poor countries, was also a serial killer?

Wow, thanks for this remarkable story.

[D]

This thread is insane.........................

[Axl4Prez2004]

......or is it that you're in on it too D!!!  Damn, I should have known!   

[SLCPUNK]

You should see the list of dead peeps associated with Jon Bon Jovi.....