It just seems like we are stuck on the same step for quite awhile.
Holy shit....
Again, you are the one who starts with the insults. Your insinuations that Im a whiner and I act like a child, I dont think, along with your changing of the voices insert comments here etc, can all be considered insults. So if you want to come at me with smart ass comments I figure its fair game for me to throw some digs at you.
So if its not then dont "insult" me. I dont mind it you can insult me all you want...Im not insulted!.
You remind me of a kid crying to get things his way.
You know there are things that explain everything, you choose to ignore and go on "crying".
You on the other hand called me a groupie.
Generally, there are no such things as facts in GNR world.
What the hell?
What I would really love is to be able to discuss certain things with people who are more open minded and realize that not everything is rosey every step of the way.
What I would love is for you to think.
I tried it once and you just made fun of the whole idea.
As I said multiple times, and you ignored it as many times, you're just repeating yourself with no intention of trying to change. Why?
You
know you can't have the album, you still go on and on about wanting it.
Sorry if it reminds me of a kid who's crying for candy and is told time after time that he can't have any candy today.
That's how you come across.
Even kids might stop once they understand the reason for the "no candy".
Not really. Actually I have "whined" only in the last yr/ yr n a half. Before that you never had a problem with what I said...or the "insults" I dished out to the "haters"......
No, I generally don't have problems with people who come to a GN'R site and support the band.
Is that childish?
Maybe it's being a groupie?
No, I said I was going to continue doing what I have been doing for the past 7 yrs.....
sit back, support, discuss, and enjoy the crazy ride.
For you what I say may sound like a broken record....for others, it might actually make sense. We dont need you deciding that.
Who's we?
You're such a supporter... As leatherebel pointed out. You're clearly behind this band!
I'm free to decide whatever the fuck I feel like deciding. You on the other hand should remember that you're only a guest here and you're posting because I let you back after you were baned last time.
I cant offer any solutions because I do not know the full details of all the situations. Nor does any1 else here. Hence, speculation occurs....
No, you don't even speculate!
You just want the album out. No buts or ifs.
If you did, you might actually stop the whole act and realize it's pointless to repeat the same line when you know for a fact that it's boring and theres a reason for everything.
speculation has been part of the gnr world since the original band. Why are you offended by it?
How am I offended?
You are the one who never even bothers to try to see things or understand the problems.
I don't have a problem with you trying to understand why the album isn't out. Too bad you have.
You do because last time we had a discussion I said there is no sense in arguing with someone who sees no wrong with GNR. You were offended/insulted.
Maybe I'm offended by stupidity.
You say there's no sense and you keep ding it.
I offered you a simple solution to yuor problem. You didn't liike it.
Why are we talking about mistakes?....according to you gnr have made no mistakes
I didn't say that. I said everybody makes mistakes but most of us don't make them knowing that it's a mistake!
It's easy to "sit back, support and discuss" when you can point out mistakes without having to take any kind of facts/reasons into account.
not really. If I dont insult anyone you or anyone here you cant ban me...you can but then it will just show what type of person you really are...and what your real agenda is around here
What kind of person I really am? What would you know about it? Nothing! You and your friend are too busy thinking about what kind of person you think I am.
I'm possibly the most patient person you've come across.
All I do is state my opinion on certain topics. You choose to "present the facts" to me. Thats fine.
That's what a fucking discussion is about. The thing you say you want to do.
What the fuck did you think t was?
The issue here is that EVERYBODY else seems to be able to take those facts in, process them, think about it and then make another response in the thread. Without trying to make it personal and without adding the insults.
You and your friend can't.
It's always "you think you speak for the band" or "you only think that because you met band members". Nobody else makes those remarks except the two of you.
Why is that?
I have always said since day 1, I rather have the album out first even before any kind of touring.
Put it in your signature and don't post it.
Problem solved.
Again. if you cant take an insult then dont insult people. Is obivious you want me out of here.
Hello? You see insults that aren't even there.
Ask your friend how come he likes to point out to people that they weren't fans back in the day when he was one. Maybe he can tell you how you're not as big fan as he is since I bet you weren't rocking out to AFD in 1988.....
I dont need to take a break. This is a message board and we are discussing our opinions on the state of gnr and what we hope/wish/dream what might happen or want to happen. I dont need you to set me straight with gnr facts.
Again, you don't need me. You're here to discuss, but you don't need anybody to correct you when you're wrong.
I don't know what you're after. Maybe talking to a mirror would work better for you?
Everybody else is fine with the idea of getting replies in a discussion. Not you!
You are like the rest of us...you dont know any or much. So you are on the same level as everyone here in terms of discussing gnr.
Making it personal again. The old "who do you think you are" routine.
How many times per day can you do this?
And who the fuck do you think
you are?
As your friend should remind you, you weren't even around when AFD was the latest GN'R album!
I just don't see how a tour before the album is out would prevent it.
There are no forces physically preventing the band from touring. If Axl wants to go out again, raise some cash or awareness, then more power to him. But, and I am not going out on the limb here, the perception is that a tour without an album in support is not only a redundancy but a sign that the release is not imminent. It is understandable that fans would be concerned, especially in lieu of 02/06/07.
The difference is that the album wasn't done in 2002 or 2006.
/jarmo
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