Baz "axl is getting ready to put out chinese democracy"

[chineseblues]

i dont think baz knows whats hes talking about to be honest

Then the problem is you don't think! Baz is friends with Axl, they talk, so yeah I'm pretty damn sure he knows what he is talking about. They probably talk on the phone about whatever is going on.

[erose]

about as much as you i'd say 

So you don't think the fact that Baz actually knows Axl helps his credibility?

You don't think Axl would stop Baz if he felt that the guy was talking to much, let alone talking out of his ass?

[Bartlet]

And finally - all hail "baz" for there is nothing cd or axl related he doesnt know o no siree! and no - it isnt as if othe rpeole who have been quoted on the issue had any idea whats going/gone on. good god no!

just baz.

baz is truly the man with the info.

or the mouth. im surprised he hasnt choked on it yet, he's so full of it.

god bless the prophet!

 

Baz is a close friend of Axl's. Probably one of the closest if not THE closest friend. If you choose to believe what someone else has said about CD over what Baz says, then ok.. it's your choice...

is he really that close, and not just someone axl called after years of silence because he knew he was one of the few who'd pick up the phone? Does their relationship not benefit both of them, especially when they tour together (tho mostly "the mouth", on balance)...?

Thanks for giving me the choice, i think its clear which path ive chosen for now.

[jarmo]

Oh my God....

Talk about over analyzing their friendship.


Baz actually has talked to and spent time with Axl during the last year. That's more than you can say about some of these self appointed GN'R experts that like to pass themselves of as experts in the media.

He also got Axl to sing on his album. Something nobody else has managed to do recently.





/jarmo

[Voodoochild]

is he really that close, and not just someone axl called after years of silence because he knew he was one of the few who'd pick up the phone? Does their relationship not benefit both of them, especially when they tour together (tho mostly "the mouth", on balance)...?

Thanks for giving me the choice, i think its clear which path ive chosen for now.

Yeah, why not chose the most improbable path?

Just try to check the Occam's Razor theory. It would explain a lot.

Why would Axl let Bach hear the new material and even sing in one song if they weren't really friends? 

[Bartlet]

Oh my God....

Talk about over analyzing their friendship.


Baz actually has talked to and spent time with Axl during the last year. That's more than you can say about some of these self appointed GN'R experts that like to pass themselves of as experts in the media.

He also got Axl to sing on his album. Something nobody else has managed to do recently.





/jarmo

and the last year is the only year that counts, is it...?

[Bartlet]

is he really that close, and not just someone axl called after years of silence because he knew he was one of the few who'd pick up the phone? Does their relationship not benefit both of them, especially when they tour together (tho mostly "the mouth", on balance)...?

Thanks for giving me the choice, i think its clear which path ive chosen for now.

Yeah, why not chose the most improbable path?

Just try to check the Occam's Razor theory. It would explain a lot.

Why would Axl let Bach hear the new material and even sing in one song if they weren't really friends? 

You, however, are bastardising the theory by using a very compressed, even heavily edited form of it.

Do'nt. You'll come unstuck.

[Voodoochild]

No shit? Just because you want.

You rather believe in a conspiracy theory about Axl n' Baz friendship than the most obvious truth. Cool for you, whatever makes you happy.

[jarmo]

and the last year is the only year that counts, is it...?

You're the one who choses to whine about Baz not being a friend, not me.


Look at the fucking facts for once.

It's pretty obvious that he's been in contact with Axl.






/jarmo

[ppbebe]

check gunsnroses com.
and remember, the delay is solely bumble's fault.
axl sent joke messages to baz while he and ron were at a radio show.

[Bartlet]

and the last year is the only year that counts, is it...?

You're the one who choses to whine about Baz not being a friend, not me.


Look at the fucking facts for once.

It's pretty obvious that he's been in contact with Axl.






/jarmo

Where did i say he had not been...?

Again, you deliberately dont bother to address the point. But i expect no better.

[jarmo]

Again, you deliberately dont bother to address the point. But i expect no better.

Because you have no point....

It's just the usual "he doesn't know" shit that I expect to see from certain people.

You seem like one of those unhappy fans who chose to believe people who haven't had any contact with Axl in years or decades. 




/jarmo

[cyllan]

and the last year is the only year that counts, is it...?

Well, yes, if it's up-to-date info you're looking for your best bet is to ask the person who's had recent contact with the subject.

BTW, thanks for posting the transcript, Jarmo, good to see that Baz is still as enthusiastic as ever. 

[marknroses]

At this point, it would be an even more egregious act to Baz than to fans if Axl and GNR do not put out this record in 2008. It could do some serious damage to any credibility that Baz has, while we fans did not make publicly bold statements like this at the behest of Axl or anybody else involved.

I would hate to see this new GNR music end up where "The Perfect Crime" UYI Tour Video Tape is.

MNW

[Voodoochild]

Its a whole different thing now. A way bigger project, a new situation and a different stage - the final one, lets hope.

[Bartlet]

Again, you deliberately dont bother to address the point. But i expect no better.

Because you have no point....

It's just the usual "he doesn't know" shit that I expect to see from certain people.

You seem like one of those unhappy fans who chose to believe people who haven't had any contact with Axl in years or decades. 




/jarmo

Ah! and there you get the point! Those people were not, for the most part, lying about their experiences, even tho those experiences were a while ago. Now, i may take that on faith, but you do the same with anything motor-mouth says.

[GypsySoul]

And finally - all hail "baz" for there is nothing cd or axl related he doesnt know o no siree! and no - it isnt as if othe rpeole who have been quoted on the issue had any idea whats going/gone on. good god no!

Who exactly are these 'other people' that have been quoted on these issues that have actually been in contact with the band within the past year besides Baz?? 

[Bartlet]

At this point, it would be an even more egregious act to Baz than to fans if Axl and GNR do not put out this record in 2008. It could do some serious damage to any credibility that Baz has, while we fans did not make publicly bold statements like this at the behest of Axl or anybody else involved.

I would hate to see this new GNR music end up where "The Perfect Crime" UYI Tour Video Tape is.

MNW

Which is why baz should shut up. he risks, mainly because of someone else's fuck up, being seen as even more of a berk by people like me.

[Bartlet]

And finally - all hail "baz" for there is nothing cd or axl related he doesnt know o no siree! and no - it isnt as if othe rpeole who have been quoted on the issue had any idea whats going/gone on. good god no!

Who exactly are these 'other people' that have been quoted on these issues that have actually been in contact with the band within the past year besides Baz?? 

No one. its everyone else whose hung up on THE LAST YEAR, not me.

[jarmo]

Which is why baz should shut up. he risks, mainly because of someone else's fuck up, being seen as even more of a berk by people like me.

I don't think he gives a fuck what people like you think of him to be honest...


The funny thing with people like you is that you chose to listen to people who have no clue and when somebody who has a clue says something, he/she should shut up so he/she doesn't look bad if things change. 

No one. its everyone else whose hung up on THE LAST YEAR, not me.

Of course! 

It's fun to focus on things that happened years ago isn't it?

People who've had no participation with what's going on now really are the people who know best.... Right....


So keep trying to discredit Baz because of your personal bias. It's pretty amusing. 


You're so predictable.

Everybody who's still in contact with Axl/GN'R are obviously not telling the truth and they're just ass kissers! While people who've never been in the same room with Axl or the band in the last few years are the ones who know what's going on!

It's amusing how this only works one way. The people who still are friends with Axl are automatically not credible because of the association, but those who aren't friends, aren't automatically disqualified as credible for having an agenda or being bitter. Weird.

Former associates are always telling the truth...  Surely there can't be any kind of bitterness involved.....




/jarmo