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Quote from: GNR2014 on January 27, 2024, 04:29:57 PM
President Joe Biden’s erasure of $127 Billion in Student-loan debt has fallen flat with young voters in the swing states he needs to win reelection
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-us-election-key-state-voter-polling/december-2023-poll/
It's really not getting the coverage it should be, I think because he's doing it in such small amounts to prevent it from being challenged in court again.
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Re: The Biden administration (was: The NEW 2020 Election Thread)
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Quote from: cineater on January 25, 2024, 11:05:24 AM
I read that incident, asserting authority but don't know if they would have went any further but I don't know the history that well.
Yeah this is going to be another election where you are voting against something and not for something.
Trump has said he'd let Putin take parts of Ukraine, and attack any NATO ally who he believed not paying their share. This man keeps telling us who he is. We need to start believing him.
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Quote from: cineater on January 25, 2024, 11:05:24 AM
I read that incident, asserting authority but don't know if they would have went any further but I don't know the history that well.
Yeah this is going to be another election where you are voting against something and not for something.
Trump has said he'd let Putin take parts of Ukraine, and attack any NATO ally who he believed not paying their share. This man keeps telling us who he is. We need to start believing him.
What did he mean "not paying their share"?
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Trump beats Biden in every poll right now, and with all the Vegas oddsmakers.
The DEMs not replacing Genocide Joe at the top of the ticket suggests that the fix is in.
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Let's not talk about "fixes". Death is still on our side or disabled, stroke, something like that.
Don't wish anybody dead, just away from politics.
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Can't see all the proud Biden voters around anymore
. So predictable 4 years ago already.
Anyway i don't think it's gonna change Europe destiny. Putin put himself against the wall in order to play his cards from a position in which he has 1 option only: take over Europe. War won't end with Trump. Maybe he'll create a stalemate without other useless deaths but that's it (unless trump offers an unpredictable way out to Putin, Russia gonna attack again in a few years). People from east europe know better what Russia is capable of. And I believe them, even if I can't fully understand them. They always warned us.
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Putin and Trump understand each other even though we don't. They are men of power and they don't want to come up against each other. I'm looking for Putin to be looking for a way out if it looks like Trump may win the election. He may escalate the war in the spring to try to finish it before Trump gets there. It's going to kind of depend on what Trump says during the champaign. That's not based on anything political. These men are a different creature than a politician. If they have to go against each other, they will cancel each other's power out and they know it. The one won't let the other have it and they will destroy each other in the process. Hopefully, they don't take the rest of us with them. Just my thoughts.
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March 07, 2024, 11:14:13 PM »
I didn't pay much attention to the state of the union address but did that lady who had the rebuttal sound like Sarah McLachlan?
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Quote from: cineater on March 03, 2024, 08:53:26 AM
What did he mean "not paying their share"?
The same lie he was telling back in 2016.....and 2020.
All NATO allies pay their ascribed dues. This is what funds the ACTUAL NATO budget.
He insists they should be required to pay a higher % of their GDP toward defense spending because the US chooses to. The NATO (non-binding) guideline is that members should pay 2% of GDP toward defense by 2024. This is up from 1.4% in 2014.
18 of the 30 (and most of the EU AND the UK) meet that, now. 6 more of the 30 are VERY close to that (>=1.50%). 6 are below that, BUT have steadily increased their % and are actively working to hit 2%. These are countries like Turkiye, Slovania, and Belgium (which have very low GDPs so defense spending is a hard sell given budget restrictions) as well as Italy and Spain which were hit particualarly hard by the Global Recession. But even those 6 (and all but 1 of the "very close) have seen year over year increases from 2022 - 2023 and have projected increases for 2024.
But none of that directly funds NATO. That is DEFENSE SPENDING in their OWN defense budgets. It is not, in any way, part of their contributions to NATO.
We've covered this a few times before. It's another Trump lie to promote gingoism, xenophobia, and to gin up his base.
And the guy literally said he'd let Russia do whatever they want. So I'm not sure why you think Russia would have not invaded Ukraine? Hell, he's said he wouldn't be sending aid to them, so Ukraine would have fallen LONG before now if Trump had been reelected.
Further, every time Trump and Putin have had any sort of "confrontation" or mis-aligned interests....Trump turns into a cuck. I think its actually funny that people think Trump will stand up to Putin. He'll roll over, show his belly, and do exactly what he's said he'll do: Let Putin/Russia do whatever the hell they want.
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Quote from: ITARocker on March 06, 2024, 12:12:20 PM
Can't see all the proud Biden voters around anymore
. So predictable 4 years ago already.
Anyway i don't think it's gonna change Europe destiny. Putin put himself against the wall in order to play his cards from a position in which he has 1 option only: take over Europe. War won't end with Trump. Maybe he'll create a stalemate without other useless deaths but that's it (unless trump offers an unpredictable way out to Putin, Russia gonna attack again in a few years). People from east europe know better what Russia is capable of. And I believe them, even if I can't fully understand them. They always warned us.
Biden voters are still out there, trust me. They're just sick of talking to brick walls. The cult members are entrenched....at this point, trying to deprogram them is useless. They only believe what their cult leader tells them, so why engage?
But they seem to be voting....because the Repubs keep getting creamed at the ballot box. Over and over the dems outperform polls and blue sky predictions.
As a legit data analyst, I can tell you that political polling methods are garbage right now. Who they poll, how they poll, and what they tell you in March are just garbage. Nobody is engaged, and the ones that are, especially on the lib side, are not answering unsolicted phone calls and emails. Polling aggregates, especially at this point, skews +3 to +5 conservative, and +8 to +10 over 55. They vastly undersample independents. There is literally no point to them.
Trump keeps slipping with independents (look at the primaries in open states), women and college educated voters (again, primaries). That's not polls, thats primary results IN HIS OWN PARTY. It's why they got the Senator to do the Repub response last night (who the hell decided to put her in a kitchen...JFC, the optics!).
If you think anybody but the histronic media cares about the polls (so they have something to talk about), you're deluding yourself.
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I hope someone figures out a way to leak the Hur audio of President Biden's special counsel interview
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Quote from: GNR2014 on May 16, 2024, 01:23:07 PM
I hope someone figures out a way to leak the Hur audio of President Biden's special counsel interview
The full transcript is literally right here:
https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/doj-hjc-hur-0000033-0000191.pdf
Meanwhile, we HAVE the audio from recent Trump interviews and campaign speeches. Yikes.
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I have never seen the media do a complete 180 like this!
CNN and the mainstream libs turning on Joe Biden is more satisfying than a new album from Guns could ever hope to be!
Thank you 2024!
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This is risky asking him to do a public speech tonight. A lot to prove here. I'm not watching.
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I like the message coming from both sides, calm down the rhetoric. We have a guy running for governor using a flame thrower and somebody else running using some kind of gun. The message I get is use force to get what you want.
I think the constitution is a wonderful basic document but, it was written by men living in a different time, in a different age. Does the right to bear arms need to mean the same thing it meant then as it means now?
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So, at the end of the day, the violents and the monsters supporting trump (and the bigot, dangerous trump himself) are the only ones who die ore get wounded. When I talked about media brainwashing people I was exactly referring to this. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner tbh, you always find the crazy guy out there with a melted brain. Because one thing is the rethoric of the politicians which is a part of the game, another thing is the corrupted media which exaggerate things, invent things and so on. I've just seen a couple of tv hosts complaining about trump becoming a martyr i mean, how t f can you say something like this after 1 minute? Not a grain of salt in a lot of minds out there
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" Trump Selling $300 Sneakers With His Bloody Face"
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Not really a surprise Biden dropped out. Guess we'll see if the money starts flowing again and to who.
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Quote from: GNR2014 on March 05, 2024, 11:05:59 AM
Trump beats Biden in every poll right now, and with all the Vegas oddsmakers.
The DEMs not replacing Genocide Joe at the top of the ticket suggests that the fix is in.
Well this aged like milk. Pretty hilarious because the right is also trying to use Biden being replaced as evidence of "the fix being in".
Heads I win, tails you lose.
Quote from: ITARocker on July 15, 2024, 03:32:48 AM
So, at the end of the day, the violents and the monsters supporting trump (and the bigot, dangerous trump himself) are the only ones who die ore get wounded.
Uhh, what? Cesar Sayoc sent pipe bombs to Obama, Hillary Clinton, Biden, George Soros, Maxine Waters and several others. Robert Dear shot up a Planned Parenthood. The Christchurch Mosque shooting, Dylan Roof shooting up a black church... Lots of violence from the right.
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