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Quote from: Spirit on August 03, 2021, 09:23:55 PM
Absurd:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anRDMvMgqCA&ab_channel=robertgallo
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I Can Finally Say I Saw Guns N' Roses Without Any Caveats, Qualifiers, Or Preambles. And It Was GLORIOUS. Best Concert Of My Life.
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Axl sounded a lot better he must have drank a gallon of petrol ⛽before he went on to warm up his vocal chords, good to hear them throwing in a new song (well new to the setlist) hopefully more to follow.
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I AM SPEECHLESS!
This band is fucking crazy. How would've thought of all songs... Silkworms?
I had the impression that maybe this is still a working in progress?
Kudos for the band for trying something new.
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Quote from: Executioner on August 04, 2021, 11:09:53 AM
Axl sounded a lot better he must have drank a gallon of petrol ⛽before he went on to warm up his vocal chords, good to hear them throwing in a new song (well new to the setlist) hopefully more to follow.
Still has the deep voice. Or in this case, the deep fugazi british voice.
I'm just encouraged by the energy displayed.
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The best thing about the display last night was how much fun they seemed to have on stage. Good for us, it probably encourages trying new things.
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Quote from: Spirit on August 04, 2021, 12:31:18 PM
The best thing about the display last night was how much fun they seemed to have on stage. Good for us, it probably encourages trying new things.
I think that the best thing was the clear difference between the two shows, and how that dispels the doom and gloom naysayers.
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I am sorry--I know that I will get torched--but the song Absurd is horrible (IMO). It may have been relevant when Industrial rock was cool, 20 years ago. Today, it sounds ridiculous and it is not GNR. I hated that song in 2001 and still hate it today. To be excited about a "new" song that is from 20 years ago and really sucks strikes me as....absurd.
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Great night in Boston.
They played a new unreleased song, something some said GN'R wouldn't do. And then the focus switched to how it's not really a new song.... Ok.....
Absurd to me sounds like more classic punk rock GN'R, than Silkworms did. Fits this band...
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Quote from: Ali on August 04, 2021, 01:13:08 PM
I think that the best thing was the clear difference between the two shows, and how that dispels the doom and gloom naysayers.
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Quote from: russkwtx on August 04, 2021, 01:21:38 PM
I am sorry--I know that I will get torched--but the song Absurd is horrible (IMO). It may have been relevant when Industrial rock was cool, 20 years ago. Today, it sounds ridiculous and it is not GNR. I hated that song in 2001 and still hate it today. To be excited about a "new" song that is from 20 years ago and really sucks strikes me as....absurd.
I would have agreed with you if it was the same song that was played all those years ago. But, in the same way that Slash and Duff added their stamp to "Better", they did that with this. I didn't notice any significant amount of synth. I agree with Jarmo, that it's more of a punk rock song that leans closer to "Down on the Farm".
The punk influence has always been a part of GN'R.
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Quote from: Spirit on August 04, 2021, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: Ali on August 04, 2021, 01:13:08 PM
I think that the best thing was the clear difference between the two shows, and how that dispels the doom and gloom naysayers.
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Well said, sir.
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Re: Updates: August 3rd, 2021 Boston, MA @ Fenway Park
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I feel very old jajaja reading facebook see a lot of people that doesnt know silkworms.
(im from Argentina, hope you understand)
I think Axl its ok, considering that he always start tours from lowest to highest vocal level. And considering his 59.
Im going to give my modest opinion of amateur singer I am, they should play shortest sets, and get out some songs like RQ or Dead Horse, and put anothers like down on the farm, bad obsession, songs that can express his chest voice, so that he can give better performances and keep his throat. I saw one thing that never before, he didnt sang some parts of some songs, and were songs that requires lot of air. So just an opinion.
In general i think they are fantastic. We have to celebrate that they play the songs in the original key, and almost always Axl get it. I hope see them in Argentina next year.
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Quote from: alex_arg on August 04, 2021, 02:30:05 PM
I feel very old jajaja reading facebook see a lot of people that doesnt know silkworms.
(im from Argentina, hope you understand)
I think Axl its ok, considering that he always start tours from lowest to highest vocal level. And considering his 59.
Im going to give my modest opinion of amateur singer I am, they should play shortest sets, and get out some songs like RQ or Dead Horse, and put anothers like down on the farm, bad obsession, songs that can express his chest voice, so that he can give better performances and keep his throat. I saw one thing that never before, he didnt sang some parts of some songs, and were songs that requires lot of air. So just an opinion.
In general i think they are fantastic. We have to celebrate that they play the songs in the original key, and almost always Axl get it. I hope see them in Argentina next year.
When you haven't sung or sung for extended periods of time, the head,and then the mixed voice, is the last to get conditioned. I have said it before, but unless he has a physical issue with his vocal cords, there's no way in hell he lost any appreciable part of his range over the last 1.5 years with no touring.
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Quote from: alex_arg on August 04, 2021, 02:30:05 PM
I feel very old jajaja reading facebook see a lot of people that doesnt know silkworms.
(im from Argentina, hope you understand)
I think Axl its ok, considering that he always start tours from lowest to highest vocal level. And considering his 59.
Im going to give my modest opinion of amateur singer I am, they should play shortest sets, and get out some songs like RQ or Dead Horse, and put anothers like down on the farm, bad obsession, songs that can express his chest voice, so that he can give better performances and keep his throat. I saw one thing that never before, he didnt sang some parts of some songs, and were songs that requires lot of air. So just an opinion.
In general i think they are fantastic. We have to celebrate that they play the songs in the original key, and almost always Axl get it. I hope see them in Argentina next year.
When you haven't sung or sung for extended periods of time, the head,and then the mixed voice, is the last to get conditioned. I have said it before, but unless he has a physical issue with his vocal cords, there's no way in hell he lost any appreciable part of his range over the last 1.5 years with no touring.
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Agree. In my opinion the more dificult thing is to keep the voice all the show, jungle its okey, ycbm not at all, head voice requires lot of air and there is the problem. But im sure he is going to be better. This show was much better than the first. Hope to see hardschool in the next.
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For all those who doubt what I am saying, or don't understand what I am saying about why Axl uses a more clean tone, please watch this. Particularly pay attention to the part @ the one minute mark.
https://youtu.be/7h_1uuU5rWA
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Quote from: alex_arg on August 04, 2021, 03:05:06 PM
Quote from: Ali on August 04, 2021, 02:53:25 PM
Quote from: alex_arg on August 04, 2021, 02:30:05 PM
I feel very old jajaja reading facebook see a lot of people that doesnt know silkworms.
(im from Argentina, hope you understand)
I think Axl its ok, considering that he always start tours from lowest to highest vocal level. And considering his 59.
Im going to give my modest opinion of amateur singer I am, they should play shortest sets, and get out some songs like RQ or Dead Horse, and put anothers like down on the farm, bad obsession, songs that can express his chest voice, so that he can give better performances and keep his throat. I saw one thing that never before, he didnt sang some parts of some songs, and were songs that requires lot of air. So just an opinion.
In general i think they are fantastic. We have to celebrate that they play the songs in the original key, and almost always Axl get it. I hope see them in Argentina next year.
When you haven't sung or sung for extended periods of time, the head,and then the mixed voice, is the last to get conditioned. I have said it before, but unless he has a physical issue with his vocal cords, there's no way in hell he lost any appreciable part of his range over the last 1.5 years with no touring.
Ali
Agree. In my opinion the more dificult thing is to keep the voice all the show, jungle its okey, ycbm not at all, head voice requires lot of air and there is the problem. But im sure he is going to be better. This show was much better than the first. Hope to see hardschool in the next.
You are 100% right. Head voice requires more breath support. Especially to do it properly, or cleanly. The reason why Axl's voice often becomes raspy at the end of a phrase is because he is losing breath support.
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Re: Updates: August 3rd, 2021 Boston, MA @ Fenway Park
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Quote from: D on August 03, 2021, 09:48:44 PM
Still weird to me how people question Axls voice after the Axl/DC stuff.
He clearly has figured out a way to sing without damaging his vocal cords but can still when needed.
Plus GNR typically work out the bugs the first show back after a layoff...
Why is it weird? He never sang that consistently raspy with Guns, even in 2016. To this day, I don't understand how he pulled it off with AC/DC the way he did. I figure either he was still damaging his voice with AC/DC and just powered through it, or he found a healthy way to sing that stuff but couldn't make it work with Guns, because there is a clear degradation from 2016-2019.
In any case, it looks like the covid rest allowed his voice to recover, and for that I'm thankful!
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Respectfully, I don't think that there's a healthy way to induce a raspy voice for long sets over a long period of time for these the vocal coach in the video I posted outlines. I am amazed that he did it with AC/DC. But, it was clearly a stylistic choice.
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Agree. In AC DC i think was a mix of things. First Axl did a lot of rehearsals and prepared his voice a lot, and if we consider that he is an AC DC fan, being there was like a dream come true i think, so he was going to make all to sound great, so its probably that he could suffer a little damage, obiously the 95% was a tecnic way (if no, he would loose the voice).
Now clean voice is much safe at this point of his career. The most important thing is that he can keep the voice to hit the notes.
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Re: Updates: August 3rd, 2021 Boston, MA @ Fenway Park
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We have been discussing his voice since 2001. Lol
AC/DC is still not the same range as GNR.
So there is no comparison to the challenges of singing songs like Absurd and then YCBM, then SCOM, Crazy, NR, Estranged.
To say his songs are challenging is an understatement.
What he is doing at 59 is remarkable.
I also wish sometimes for him to scream notes with GNR more, but it must be very hard at 59 to perform 2.5 hours and do the razor/needle rasp for all of the songs.
Each show should be stronger.
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