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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2021, 06:22:09 PM »

Both songs are great! I prefer Hard Skool... I think it's a perfect single to launch an upcoming release, or to get the general public, more aware that GnR is back! Very catchy and I can't get Duff's " Too Hard Skool" out of my head. rofl
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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2021, 04:49:24 PM »

'Hard School' is a *much* better song than 'Absurd'.

And would absolutely get airplay.

It would get airplay by default as a new GNR single, but not much organically. It's a by-the-numbers track, let's be honest.
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« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2021, 04:55:57 PM »

'Hard School' is a *much* better song than 'Absurd'.

And would absolutely get airplay.

It would get airplay by default as a new GNR single, but not much organically. It's a by-the-numbers track, let's be honest.

100 percent agreed.
Only thing I will add is that a day after itís finally played live and/or released, people will be whining about when the band will release the next single and how it wonít be soon enough.
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« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2021, 05:00:15 PM »

I disagree, people have waited over 2years for Hardschool and are amped up for its release. beer
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« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2021, 08:44:31 PM »

'Hard School' is a *much* better song than 'Absurd'.

And would absolutely get airplay.

It would get airplay by default as a new GNR single, but not much organically. It's a by-the-numbers track, let's be honest.

100 percent agreed.
Only thing I will add is that a day after itís finally played live and/or released, people will be whining about when the band will release the next single and how it wonít be soon enough.

True, I'm a pushy bitch and I like me some GNR.   hihi
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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2021, 12:49:43 PM »

So, this story was picked up by one of the bigger rock stations around here, 97.7 HTZ FM in Southern Ontario (basically Toronto all the way down to Buffalo gets it). They trashed Absurd (calling it a trainwreck of a song) but mentioned there might be something new coming. I don't think they had any additional source, just recycling what made the rounds online...
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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2021, 04:10:27 PM »

I disagree, people have waited over 2years for Hardschool and are amped up for its release. beer

What people? A mere subset of the hardcode fans? Most people don't know a thing about it.
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« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2021, 06:53:59 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2021, 07:10:57 PM »

Well, Axl said it's coming soon, so I'm hopeful!

Big question now is: is there an album?
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« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2021, 08:46:24 PM »

I think an album will come out in November  beer
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« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2021, 09:56:44 PM »

I think an album will come out in November  beer
That would be great. I just don't see it happening. The first 2 singles are old songs being reworked. We have had no real reason to believe they have gone into the studio and recorded or even wrote anything new. Unless an entire new album would just be old Chinese vault stuff with reworked parts, I just don't see it
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« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2021, 07:33:46 PM »

I think an album will come out in November  beer
That would be great. I just don't see it happening. The first 2 singles are old songs being reworked. We have had no real reason to believe they have gone into the studio and recorded or even wrote anything new. Unless an entire new album would just be old Chinese vault stuff with reworked parts, I just don't see it

Huh? Slash explicitly said they were in the studio writing, didn't he? I don't believe that he would ever agree to a whole album of just re-recording parts over existing tracks. Honestly, I'm not even convinced these first singles will be on the album. I look at Absurd like Oh My God. Just a teaser that was easily thrown together.
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« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2021, 10:08:58 PM »

I think an album will come out in November  beer
That would be great. I just don't see it happening. The first 2 singles are old songs being reworked. We have had no real reason to believe they have gone into the studio and recorded or even wrote anything new. Unless an entire new album would just be old Chinese vault stuff with reworked parts, I just don't see it

Huh? Slash explicitly said they were in the studio writing, didn't he? I don't believe that he would ever agree to a whole album of just re-recording parts over existing tracks. Honestly, I'm not even convinced these first singles will be on the album. I look at Absurd like Oh My God. Just a teaser that was easily thrown together.

Beta said it'll be on the CD
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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2021, 09:45:40 AM »

Beta said it'll be on the CD

I haven't seen the quote, but it sounded ambiguous to me. Remember that you need to be careful interpreting the statements from this band. I took it that she was talking about pressing CD singles for Absurd.
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« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2021, 09:56:05 AM »

Shadow of Your Love-AFD outtake from 1987
Absurd-Chinese Democracy outtake from 2000
Hard Skool-Chinese Democracy outtake from 2000

Permission, no offense, but we have literally no evidence that these guys have recorded one note of new material.
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« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2021, 11:10:15 AM »

So, this story was picked up by one of the bigger rock stations around here, 97.7 HTZ FM in Southern Ontario (basically Toronto all the way down to Buffalo gets it). They trashed Absurd (calling it a trainwreck of a song) but mentioned there might be something new coming. I don't think they had any additional source, just recycling what made the rounds online...

Let's face it.  'Absurd' has made zero impact.  I'd argue because it unplayable on the radio, given the lyrics.

'Hard School' will be played.
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« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2021, 11:11:27 AM »

Shadow of Your Love-AFD outtake from 1987
Absurd-Chinese Democracy outtake from 2000
Hard Skool-Chinese Democracy outtake from 2000

Permission, no offense, but we have literally no evidence that these guys have recorded one note of new material.

Agree, in principle.

But 'Absurd' was obviously worked on a bit.  That is not the demo we have from 20 years ago.

Which tells me 2 things :

- they have been in the studio
- Slash and Duff are willing to try and make this work

Both of which I find encouraging.
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« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2021, 11:52:22 AM »

Pretty sure Shadow was enhanced as well. Shadow was a Hollywood Rose song!

I was encouraged for potential new music when they agreed to tour together. 5 years later we have what we have.
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« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2021, 03:17:17 PM »

Pretty sure Shadow was enhanced as well. Shadow was a Hollywood Rose song!

I was encouraged for potential new music when they agreed to tour together. 5 years later we have what we have.

Oh, big time on SOYL.  That is not the demo I used to have on CD back in the day.

I'm encouraged by their work on 'Absurd' for one reason.  And it sure as shit ain't that I think it's a great song.

I am shocked to play as many CD songs as they did.  It's tapered off now, but that first leg in 2016, there were 4 CD tunes at my show.  In 2017, my show had 5.  I would think they were perfctly within their rights to say "that's not us, we are not playing that stuff".  And Axl would have to take it.  But they were both good sports.

Take that a step further.  There is probably nothing as "un-GNR" as that tune.  That was as far away as the stuff Slash and Duff normally do.  They agreed to this too.

Basically, they are bending over backwards to be accommodating to Axl.  Playing his CD stuff live.  Taking out the most foreign sounding outtake from those sessions and making it their first "new song" in 30 years.

Should there never be an album, it sure as hell ain't on Slash and Duff, right?
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« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2021, 06:23:47 PM »

Pretty sure Shadow was enhanced as well. Shadow was a Hollywood Rose song!

I was encouraged for potential new music when they agreed to tour together. 5 years later we have what we have.

I could be wrong, but to me the vocals on the Shadow of your love single  sound 100 percent like Axl present day.  Iíve never seen this confirmed anywhere , but thatís just what it sounds like to me.  The drumming sounds nothing like Steven and a lot of Slashs guitar parts sound new.
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