Hard Skool lyric video premiere December 3, 2021

[dsaddler78]

They just played Hard Skool and mentioned something about a video debut. I only caught the end of it but then as they went to commercial, they used the song again as buffer music

[D-GenerationX]

Please tell me someone else is watching the Cowboys-Saints game and just saw that ad.

New video for 'Hard Skool' dropping tomorrow?  On the NFL Network morning show???

[tim_m]

Yep world premiere of the video tomorrow on good morning football on NFL network 7 am ET.

[dsaddler78]

Yep world premiere of the video tomorrow on good morning football on NFL network 7 am ET.

Hell yeah!!!!!....So I wonder if it is differerent video than the red screen thing we all have already seen???

[tim_m]

Yep world premiere of the video tomorrow on good morning football on NFL network 7 am ET.

Hell yeah!!!!!....So I wonder if it is differerent video than the red screen thing we all have already seen???

I think that's a safe bet that it's something totally new.

[tim_m]

Please tell me someone else is watching the Cowboys-Saints game and just saw that ad.

New video for 'Hard Skool' dropping tomorrow?  On the NFL Network morning show???

Yep i saw it. It's real you weren't imagining it or anything lol.

[gnrrock]

I saw the promo too! Sounded like Joe Buck said it was a lyric video? Took a picture but unable to figure out how to post it.

[dsaddler78]

I saw the promo too! Sounded like Joe Buck said it was a lyric video? Took a picture but unable to figure out how to post it.

Insane.....weird that Fox NFL would care about this to promote it. Someone must of pulled some strings. Either way. Fucking Awesome

[D-GenerationX]

Please tell me someone else is watching the Cowboys-Saints game and just saw that ad.

New video for 'Hard Skool' dropping tomorrow?  On the NFL Network morning show???

Yep i saw it. It's real you weren't imagining it or anything lol.

Had the game open in another window, but on mute.

All of the sudden, see 'Guns N' Roses' plastered across the screen.  I jumped.

[tim_m]

I had the volume down but just happened to look up at the right time and saw it

[dsaddler78]

Also, with all the hush and recent articles about no new music being recorded this makes you think. Perhaps the stars are aligning

[Trash Panda]

Fox is not promoting it. The band paid to have this promoted. Why? It seems like it must be a pitch to get the song licensed. I can't understand how this makes sense in any other way. This seems like a straight business move. What audience are they going for premiering a video at 7 am on a football show? Inexplicable.

[D-GenerationX]

Fox is not promoting it. The band paid to have this promoted. Why? It seems like it must be a pitch to get the song licensed. I can't understand how this makes sense in any other way. This seems like a straight business move. What audience are they going for premiering a video at 7 am on a football show? Inexplicable.

If it don't make dollaz...it don't make sense.

[Trash Panda]

Fox is not promoting it. The band paid to have this promoted. Why? It seems like it must be a pitch to get the song licensed. I can't understand how this makes sense in any other way. This seems like a straight business move. What audience are they going for premiering a video at 7 am on a football show? Inexplicable.

If it don't make dollaz...it don't make sense.

Word. Cash rules everything around me.

[faldor]

Fox is not promoting it. The band paid to have this promoted. Why? It seems like it must be a pitch to get the song licensed. I can't understand how this makes sense in any other way. This seems like a straight business move. What audience are they going for premiering a video at 7 am on a football show? Inexplicable.

I’m more confused by the timing. I’ll take an early Christmas present though.

https://twitter.com/dalshime/status/1466584322308296712?s=21

[Gavgnr]

https://www.facebook.com/chad.gentry.73/videos/412090767308772/

Here’s the ad

[COMAMOTIVE]

Please tell me someone else is watching the Cowboys-Saints game and just saw that ad.

New video for 'Hard Skool' dropping tomorrow?  On the NFL Network morning show???

Saw it and was in disbelief-
A video? WTF
If it were something about a new track I may have put the drink down and came right here to see if anyone else heard it or if I was having a drunken induced flashback to the 90's

[jarmo]

That's a bit, different? Premiering a music video on TV. Not just the Internet.





/jarmo

[faldor]

Just a friendly reminder to anyone that’s tuned into Good Morning Football to see the video. The show is 3 hours long and obviously “football” is the main topic on the show. So I’m not sure when the video will air but it’ll probably be going into or coming out of a break and it may not be until the end of the show (10 am).

[gnrrock]

So I didn’t see the video unless I missed it. I missed the second hour.

[faldor]

So I didn’t see the video unless I missed it. I missed the second hour.

It aired, but I missed it too. I taped it so I’ll have to check it out when I get home. Can’t find it online yet. I just went on my DVR & watched it. They only played about a minute of the video, which was basically pictures of the band members with the lyrics. Then the hosts of the show talked about their favorite songs and memories of the band. Mentioned that you could go to gunsnroses.com for merch and music and that they’re still touring and kicking ass these days. They went on for like 5 minutes, seemed genuinely excited.

[C0ma]

Fox is not promoting it. The band paid to have this promoted. Why? It seems like it must be a pitch to get the song licensed. I can't understand how this makes sense in any other way. This seems like a straight business move. What audience are they going for premiering a video at 7 am on a football show? Inexplicable.

I’m more confused by the timing. I’ll take an early Christmas present though.

https://twitter.com/dalshime/status/1466584322308296712?s=21

Love the song, love that we got the song… but these lyric videos are just lazy. I don’t need a “trilogy” style video but can’t they piece together footage for a Paradise City like video.

Having said that any eyes on a new release is good… I get that not every GnR fan is an NFL fan, but that’s sort of the point get a diverse set of eyes on new music, I just wish that new audience got a better product video wise.

As far as the show… it is the NFL Networks #1 show outside of the Thursday Game… but advertising/teasing it on the game, gets people to the show and the video… win win for the band and the network.

[kyrie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TszMUuJG-t8

[kyrie]

For anyone who cares - in the first 30 minutes, 10,000+ views, over 3K likes, not a single dislike.

Really wish they'd had this video ready to go when they first released the song.

[gnrrock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TszMUuJG-t8

Thanks for sharing.

[gnrrock]

So I didn’t see the video unless I missed it. I missed the second hour.

It aired, but I missed it too. I taped it so I’ll have to check it out when I get home. Can’t find it online yet. I just went on my DVR & watched it. They only played about a minute of the video, which was basically pictures of the band members with the lyrics. Then the hosts of the show talked about their favorite songs and memories of the band. Mentioned that you could go to gunsnroses.com for merch and music and that they’re still touring and kicking ass these days. They went on for like 5 minutes, seemed genuinely excited.

Ended up catching it. Agreed. The crew seemed to be legit fans of GNR too.

[Trash Panda]

So this is the video??? Not a second of an actual live performance? Why would they go to so much trouble to hype this and seemingly put so little effort in the actual product? This makes ZERO sense. I didn't expect Estranged, but at the least they could have copied Live and Let Die or Dead Horse .. Why tour non-stop for 5 years and when it comes to make a video not use a second out of those 5 years? The underwhelming is overwhelming.

[gnrrock]

So this is the video??? Not a second of an actual live performance? Why would they go to so much trouble to hype this and seemingly put so little effort in the actual product? This makes ZERO sense. I didn't expect Estranged, but at the least they could have copied Live and Let Die or Dead Horse .. Why tour non-stop for 5 years and when it comes to make a video not use a second out of those 5 years? The underwhelming is overwhelming.

Did you watch the whole video? There were small clips of live concert video throughout. What were you expecting for a “lyric video”?

[C0ma]

So this is the video??? Not a second of an actual live performance? Why would they go to so much trouble to hype this and seemingly put so little effort in the actual product? This makes ZERO sense. I didn't expect Estranged, but at the least they could have copied Live and Let Die or Dead Horse .. Why tour non-stop for 5 years and when it comes to make a video not use a second out of those 5 years? The underwhelming is overwhelming.

Did you watch the whole video? There were small clips of live concert video throughout. What were you expecting for a “lyric video”?

I don't think based on what the ad during the game last night presented that anyone thought it was a "Lyric Video"... They basically paid to get a Karaoke video on the NFL network. While certainly a better offering than just the stage background medusa head changing color like the Absurd video, I think there may have been a little excitement that some work was put into this if you were going to make a US TV launch on the NFL Network. This is essentially the same lazy treatment that Move To The City, Absurd, and the original Shadow video got. Eventually we got a live video for Shadow that had the look and feel of Paradise City... I was really hoping for that at a minimum.

Who is the last major act that released a video (and promoted it on TV) that then released a "Lyric Video"?

[gnrrock]

So this is the video??? Not a second of an actual live performance? Why would they go to so much trouble to hype this and seemingly put so little effort in the actual product? This makes ZERO sense. I didn't expect Estranged, but at the least they could have copied Live and Let Die or Dead Horse .. Why tour non-stop for 5 years and when it comes to make a video not use a second out of those 5 years? The underwhelming is overwhelming.

Did you watch the whole video? There were small clips of live concert video throughout. What were you expecting for a “lyric video”?

I don't think based on what the ad during the game last night presented that anyone thought it was a "Lyric Video"... They basically paid to get a Karaoke video on the NFL network. While certainly a better offering than just the stage background medusa head changing color like the Absurd video, I think there may have been a little excitement that some work was put into this if you were going to make a US TV launch on the NFL Network. This is essentially the same lazy treatment that Move To The City, Absurd, and the original Shadow video got. Eventually we got a live video for Shadow that had the look and feel of Paradise City... I was really hoping for that at a minimum.

Who is the last major act that released a video (and promoted it on TV) that then released a "Lyric Video"?

I’m sorry you’re disappointed, but I heard “lyric video” last night. In fact I posted that last night in the thread.

[cineater]

I like it.  Kind of has that vibe of Just Like Starting Over but done as Hard Skool style.

[C0ma]

So this is the video??? Not a second of an actual live performance? Why would they go to so much trouble to hype this and seemingly put so little effort in the actual product? This makes ZERO sense. I didn't expect Estranged, but at the least they could have copied Live and Let Die or Dead Horse .. Why tour non-stop for 5 years and when it comes to make a video not use a second out of those 5 years? The underwhelming is overwhelming.

Did you watch the whole video? There were small clips of live concert video throughout. What were you expecting for a “lyric video”?

I don't think based on what the ad during the game last night presented that anyone thought it was a "Lyric Video"... They basically paid to get a Karaoke video on the NFL network. While certainly a better offering than just the stage background medusa head changing color like the Absurd video, I think there may have been a little excitement that some work was put into this if you were going to make a US TV launch on the NFL Network. This is essentially the same lazy treatment that Move To The City, Absurd, and the original Shadow video got. Eventually we got a live video for Shadow that had the look and feel of Paradise City... I was really hoping for that at a minimum.

Who is the last major act that released a video (and promoted it on TV) that then released a "Lyric Video"?

I’m sorry you’re disappointed, but I heard “lyric video” last night. In fact I posted that last night in the thread.

I didn't hear audio from last night just a quick video only clip on twitter with more live footage than was in the actual video. Whether they announced it as a lyric video or not, in what world is this not the height of laziness? NO OTHER BAND does these stupid lyric videos which are just the recycled background video that they use on stage. The Absurd video is literally a head that kind of moved left to right and front to back with facial expressions turning color for three minutes and twenty one seconds.

I have no problem tweaking existing CD tracks, but when you pile that on with these super lazy video offerings, seriously what do these 3 guys (and the other 3) actually do when they are off stage? Have they ever been in the same room (outside of an arena or in a tour rehearsal space for a week) since 2016?

Can't wait for my Hard Skool Christmas Vacation ugly sweater to ship... Why don't they just fully own it at this point and start wearing the KISS makeup on stage.

[DeN]

very cool lyrics video, enjoyed it.

talking about the lyrics...does someone know what they reffered to?
I don't remember Axl talking about the song and its meaning.

[Gavgnr]

Really like the video, just can’t help wondering why now? Little part of me was hoping for a new single before Christmas, but I guess our best hope is when the tour ramps back up

[gnrrock]

very cool lyrics video, enjoyed it.

talking about the lyrics...does someone know what they reffered to?
I don't remember Axl talking about the song and its meaning.

I don’t recall it ever being talked about by Axl either.

[GNR4L]

I thought the lyric video was cool... There must be dates coming soon for the U.S.  Since we have the Florida show in May.  I remember AC/DC did something similar last year for their release.  GnR do things their way, wasn't expecting a live video since we had those NITL selects. Fans should be excited that Hard Skool was on NFL Network, it's great promotion.

[draguns]

I really like the video. I thought it was cool!

[kyrie]

So this is the video??? Not a second of an actual live performance? Why would they go to so much trouble to hype this and seemingly put so little effort in the actual product? This makes ZERO sense. I didn't expect Estranged, but at the least they could have copied Live and Let Die or Dead Horse .. Why tour non-stop for 5 years and when it comes to make a video not use a second out of those 5 years? The underwhelming is overwhelming.

Did you watch the whole video? There were small clips of live concert video throughout. What were you expecting for a “lyric video”?

I don't think based on what the ad during the game last night presented that anyone thought it was a "Lyric Video"... They basically paid to get a Karaoke video on the NFL network. While certainly a better offering than just the stage background medusa head changing color like the Absurd video, I think there may have been a little excitement that some work was put into this if you were going to make a US TV launch on the NFL Network. This is essentially the same lazy treatment that Move To The City, Absurd, and the original Shadow video got. Eventually we got a live video for Shadow that had the look and feel of Paradise City... I was really hoping for that at a minimum.

Who is the last major act that released a video (and promoted it on TV) that then released a "Lyric Video"?

I’m sorry you’re disappointed, but I heard “lyric video” last night. In fact I posted that last night in the thread.

I didn't hear audio from last night just a quick video only clip on twitter with more live footage than was in the actual video. Whether they announced it as a lyric video or not, in what world is this not the height of laziness? NO OTHER BAND does these stupid lyric videos which are just the recycled background video that they use on stage. The Absurd video is literally a head that kind of moved left to right and front to back with facial expressions turning color for three minutes and twenty one seconds.

I have no problem tweaking existing CD tracks, but when you pile that on with these super lazy video offerings, seriously what do these 3 guys (and the other 3) actually do when they are off stage? Have they ever been in the same room (outside of an arena or in a tour rehearsal space for a week) since 2016?

Can't wait for my Hard Skool Christmas Vacation ugly sweater to ship... Why don't they just fully own it at this point and start wearing the KISS makeup on stage.

Lots of bands do lyric videos. They are not unique to GNR. Would I prefer a full-fledged video? Yes. But that statement is textbook hyperbole.

[PermissionToLand]

Never been a big fan of lyric videos except when official lyrics weren't otherwise available.

[cineater]

Does the NFL do this regularly, show music video's?  Doesn't seem like it was a commercial.  Superbowl artists are already picked for 2022.  What was the reason it debut here?  Guess I'm wondering what some of you are wondering too.

[tim_m]

Does the NFL do this regularly, show music video's?  Doesn't seem like it was a commercial.  Superbowl artists are already picked for 2022.  What was the reason it debut here?  Guess I'm wondering what some of you are wondering too.

Yep it appears they do it every week with a different artist.

[DAVE ROCK]

Cool lyric video 🤟🤟
GNR update to modern times. Hope there are more songs and videos to come next year

[jarmo]

Cool lyric video 🤟🤟
GNR update to modern times. Hope there are more songs and videos to come next year

Let's hope so!

Hoping 2022 will be better than 2021 in every way.





/jarmo

[DeN]

very cool lyrics video, enjoyed it.

talking about the lyrics...does someone know what they reffered to?
I don't remember Axl talking about the song and its meaning.

I don’t recall it ever being talked about by Axl either.

he talked about the name of the song one time on a chat saying Checkmate was a bogus title and the working title was Jackie Chan, but that's it. so I assume the lyrics could talk about what's happening in this particular Jackie Chan movie (but I don't know which one, it was in the mid 90's if I'm correct, maybe a Jackie Chan fan could tell us) and it could have a double meaning as lyrics often have

[jarmo]

When Duff was on Howard Stern's show in July 1996 with Steve Jones, he said they (GN'R) were gonna record for a new Jackie Chan movie ("the next one").




/jarmo

[cineater]

When Duff was on Howard Stern's show in July 1996 with Steve Jones, he said they (GN'R) were gonna record for a new Jackie Chan movie ("the next one").




/jarmo

Sometimes things don't work out and it's a good thing.

[cineater]

Does the NFL do this regularly, show music video's?  Doesn't seem like it was a commercial.  Superbowl artists are already picked for 2022.  What was the reason it debut here?  Guess I'm wondering what some of you are wondering too.

Yep it appears they do it every week with a different artist.

Darn I was hoping that was signaling some kind of partnership going forward.  Then again I'm from St Louis and we have a thing with the NFL.  They settled it the same as with Axl.  See you in court, give us your money and we'll welcome you back in town someday.

[14 Yrs Of Silence]

I often correlate lyrics from CD era to the break up of the band, and with Hard Skool, it seems like it could be directed at Slash.

[DeN]

When Duff was on Howard Stern's show in July 1996 with Steve Jones, he said they (GN'R) were gonna record for a new Jackie Chan movie ("the next one").




/jarmo

thank U Jarmo, so it's probably "First Strike", made in 1996 and released on January 10, 1997

on Rotten Tomatoes :

"A Hong Kong police detective, Chan Ka Kui (Jackie Chan), works with the CIA to track a mysterious woman named Natasha (Grishajeva Nonna). She is suspected of delivering money to a terrorist, Jackson Tsui (Jackson Liu), who is trying to obtain a nuclear warhead from the Russian mob. Traveling from Hong Kong to the Ukraine to Australia, Chan aims to bust up the terrorist plot using his fists as much as his brains, doing battle underwater, on stilts and across mountain tops."

on Wikipedia :

" To advertise First Strike, Jackie recorded the song 怎麼會 Zenme Hui and also made a music video for it. As is typical with Chan's pictures, the US version does not feature the theme song. "

https://youtu.be/J1WScAi19Zw

yeah, very different from Hard Skool... 

I don't know if there's a track for the US version of the movie...

"It remains Jackie Chan's highest-grossing film in Hong Kong and the third highest-grossing domestic film in Hong Kong film history."

[DeN]

I often correlate lyrics from CD era to the break up of the band, and with Hard Skool, it seems like it could be directed at Slash.

yeah, but it is a bit too obvious, plus it would be so cringe and weird for Slash & even Duff to work on a song based on that, don't you think?

[cineater]

When Duff was on Howard Stern's show in July 1996 with Steve Jones, he said they (GN'R) were gonna record for a new Jackie Chan movie ("the next one").




/jarmo

thank U Jarmo, so it's probably "First Strike", made in 1996 and released on January 10, 1997

on Rotten Tomatoes :

"A Hong Kong police detective, Chan Ka Kui (Jackie Chan), works with the CIA to track a mysterious woman named Natasha (Grishajeva Nonna). She is suspected of delivering money to a terrorist, Jackson Tsui (Jackson Liu), who is trying to obtain a nuclear warhead from the Russian mob. Traveling from Hong Kong to the Ukraine to Australia, Chan aims to bust up the terrorist plot using his fists as much as his brains, doing battle underwater, on stilts and across mountain tops."

on Wikipedia :

" To advertise First Strike, Jackie recorded the song 怎麼會 Zenme Hui and also made a music video for it. As is typical with Chan's pictures, the US version does not feature the theme song. "

https://youtu.be/J1WScAi19Zw

yeah, very different from Hard Skool... 

I don't know if there's a track for the US version of the movie...

"It remains Jackie Chan's highest-grossing film in Hong Kong and the third highest-grossing domestic film in Hong Kong film history."

That Kung-Fu stuff was pretty popular back then.  Dizzy and his kids really got into in.  Chan's last movie was Kung-Fu Yoga.     Okay, we're all of an age where we need to get stretched out and flexible before we do what we do but not in the heat, not with a goat and hell no with karate moves.  You know, I'm just trying not to fall over.  I don't need bad guys trying to knock me down.

[GNR4L]

Just heard Hard Skool on NFL Network going to commercial.

[Gavgnr]

I swear the mixing is different in the video release. Much better and less ‘loud’ so you can pick up the nuances better

[PermissionToLand]

You're all mistaken, it was an entirely different kung fu movie...

[NaturalLight]

I agree that the video was simple but we don’t know the background. Someone could have approached the band at the last minute and they had a tight deadline.

[D-GenerationX]

I often correlate lyrics from CD era to the break up of the band, and with Hard Skool, it seems like it could be directed at Slash.

I have never thought the lyrics were about anything other than Slash.

[Vezara]

Jarmo,

were any of your fotos included on the video?

[Mysteron]

When Duff was on Howard Stern's show in July 1996 with Steve Jones, he said they (GN'R) were gonna record for a new Jackie Chan movie ("the next one").




/jarmo

thank U Jarmo, so it's probably "First Strike", made in 1996 and released on January 10, 1997

on Rotten Tomatoes :

"A Hong Kong police detective, Chan Ka Kui (Jackie Chan), works with the CIA to track a mysterious woman named Natasha (Grishajeva Nonna). She is suspected of delivering money to a terrorist, Jackson Tsui (Jackson Liu), who is trying to obtain a nuclear warhead from the Russian mob. Traveling from Hong Kong to the Ukraine to Australia, Chan aims to bust up the terrorist plot using his fists as much as his brains, doing battle underwater, on stilts and across mountain tops."

on Wikipedia :

" To advertise First Strike, Jackie recorded the song 怎麼會 Zenme Hui and also made a music video for it. As is typical with Chan's pictures, the US version does not feature the theme song. "

https://youtu.be/J1WScAi19Zw

yeah, very different from Hard Skool... 

I don't know if there's a track for the US version of the movie...

"It remains Jackie Chan's highest-grossing film in Hong Kong and the third highest-grossing domestic film in Hong Kong film history."

Maybe it was Rush Hour, that started it's life in 1995, was released in 1998 and distributed by Universal. Just a guess

[jarmo]

Jarmo,

were any of your fotos included on the video?

No.

Kat's official photos.





/jarmo

[cineater]

Jarmo,

were any of your fotos included on the video?

No.

Kat's official photos.





/jarmo

She took some good pictures, like those.

That's a bummer she can't go home for Christmas.

[jarmo]

Yes, and yes.





/jarmo

[DeN]

When Duff was on Howard Stern's show in July 1996 with Steve Jones, he said they (GN'R) were gonna record for a new Jackie Chan movie ("the next one").




/jarmo

thank U Jarmo, so it's probably "First Strike", made in 1996 and released on January 10, 1997

on Rotten Tomatoes :

"A Hong Kong police detective, Chan Ka Kui (Jackie Chan), works with the CIA to track a mysterious woman named Natasha (Grishajeva Nonna). She is suspected of delivering money to a terrorist, Jackson Tsui (Jackson Liu), who is trying to obtain a nuclear warhead from the Russian mob. Traveling from Hong Kong to the Ukraine to Australia, Chan aims to bust up the terrorist plot using his fists as much as his brains, doing battle underwater, on stilts and across mountain tops."

on Wikipedia :

" To advertise First Strike, Jackie recorded the song 怎麼會 Zenme Hui and also made a music video for it. As is typical with Chan's pictures, the US version does not feature the theme song. "

https://youtu.be/J1WScAi19Zw

yeah, very different from Hard Skool... 

I don't know if there's a track for the US version of the movie...

"It remains Jackie Chan's highest-grossing film in Hong Kong and the third highest-grossing domestic film in Hong Kong film history."

Maybe it was Rush Hour, that started it's life in 1995, was released in 1998 and distributed by Universal. Just a guess

ah yeah, could be, thx
that's hard to tell if the lyrics have a direct link to the movies anyway, without watching them.

maybe it's just about the break up of the band, or about a girl

[rizzo160]

What do you guys think will be the next single? I’m hoping for the General.

[D-GenerationX]

What do you guys think will be the next single? I’m hoping for the General.

Hard to say.  I mean, until you hear it, it's just a title on a screen.

Honestly, was 'Atlas Shrugged' at all what you thought it was going to be?  It was miles off target as to what I thought it would be, based on the talk about it.  And I dig the song, to be honest with you.