Street Team/Gnr status update

[SINSHINE]

yeah well
at least the touring news is a good news

thx myst.

Agreed. And if they are beginning to tour in May I'd be willing to bet they have been rehearsing new songs from CD and will be sharing this new material on the road (seeing as how they will probably be hesitant to stop the momentum again once they get going...even for rehearsals).

But then again, who knows.  

[lastroots]

For the touring - great to hear that and thanks a lot Mysteron, as usual!

For GH - be honest, it's impossible to stop this now. Here in Germany it will be out in 10 days. The ads are printed, I just asked a friend at the biggest record store here (Saturn in Cologne). Also he said that he will have the cd in his hands by monday or tuesday at the latest, which means they'd be shipped to the stores at the latest on saturday. Forget it. This can't be stopped.

I just pray that this mess does not push ChinDem back again....


/lastroots

[pilferk]

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This is only my -opinion-, but it's going to become clear in the next two weeks or so (release date, 13th March) as to whether or not  the Greatest Hits album is going to be released

Print ads have already released for the week of GnRs greatest hits release, meaning if the GH got pulled now, the label would be on the hook for hundreds of thouasands of dollars in correction notices and/or reprinting costs. All of the main music retailers in the U.S. are going to have it in their Sunday AD on March 21st. The label is aware of the deadlines to pull it, and didn't.

Again, I don't think it's a matter of the label WILLINGLY pulling GH.  They obviously believe they have a right to release it.  Sanctuary/GnR obviously disagree...it'll prolly be the courts who get to decide who's right, unless Gnr decides to back down (doubtful, given Axl's penchant for litigation).

[SINSHINE]

imagine Axl wants no reminder whatsoever of the old band, and just wants all the attention on the new stuff, that's why he's pissed the Greatest Hits is being released.

I think you're absolutely right about this. And Axl should be pissed, IMO. He's worked so hard on CD for the last 5 or more years that having this "old band vs. new band" comparrison thrown at him from his own label is unexceptable. He'll get enough of that from the press...Universal should be respectful of his wishes. Then again...respect would probably cost them too much money  

[madagas]

Mysteron, I just think that arguing and fighting with the label is not good in any way, shape, or form. It will only delay matters further. Next thing you know, it is summer...then x-mas..then a negotiated exit from the label...then other negotiations with new labels ......then the release of the record sometime in the next decade. The fans always get screwed in these major label wars, especially Gnr fans. We get a shitty greatest hits release and further delay of an obviously finished record. It is a never ending cycle of futility.

[pilferk]

IMHO, the issue is they want both.  They want to have their cake and eat it too.  They want the revenue from GH, and the new material.

Yeah I dont see why they just dont release both at the same time and promote both at once to save a little money

Again, I would guess the answer to that question is: GnR doesn't seem to want GH out, so won't turn over CD so the label doesn't really have the option to do what you suggest.  And if Mysteron's right, and this leads to further delays of CD, then any spike in revenue that GH might have brought (by being a "catalog sampler" for new fans brought in by CD) goes right out the window.

 Ah, as the World of GnR Turns....

[pilferk]

Mysteron, I just think that arguing and fighting with the label is not good in any way, shape, or form. It will only delay matters further. Next thing you know, it is summer...then x-mas..then a negotiated exit from the label...then other negotiations with new labels ......then the release of the record sometime in the next decade. The fans always get screwed in these major label wars, especially Gnr fans. We get a shitty greatest hits release and further delay of an obviously finished record. It is a never ending cycle of futility.

Actually, it could be worse than that.  Depending on the contract, the "standard" label clause is they own all masters of material which they paid studio fees to record....which means that, even if GnR negotiate an exit from the label, it doesn't mean the material from CD will go with them.  Which means maybe A release in the next decade from GnR on a new label, but not necessarily THE release of CD from GnR in the next decade.

Granted, that's a "doom and gloom" worse case scenario, but entirely possible.

[Chief]

Thanks for the update. Damn this greatest hits and this whole fiasco!!! argh!!!

[MeanBone]

Mysteron Thank you so much for the update   good to see gnr have sanctuary on their side

[F*ck Fear]

Thanks Mysterion........I fucking hope the whole tour info comes to be fact.!!!!!

[MeanBone]

since the last the tour that everything seems so boring in the music world, we really need this band together and touring, and hopefully getting some new music out.

[badapple81]

Jingle Bells Jingle Bells Chinese on the way.....this thing isn't coming out ANYTIME """"""SOOOOOOOON""""""""""""

This is only my -opinion-, but it's going to become clear in the next two weeks or so (release date, 13th March) as to whether or not  the Greatest Hits album is going to be released, and it would be stupid to pursue the action after the album has been released, so I would guess it is safe to assume that 'decisions' will be made in the not too distant future. Is that logical? And the fact that they are pushing on with the tour must be a good thing too, no?

Mysteron, I for one, am happy with your news update.. and thank you by the way!   Sounds like if it wasnt for ther GH.. we could have a release date by now and perhaps a single by or around RIR4 time.

GN'R are still together.. and it won't be long till they are touring.. thats enough for me to keep me going.  

[rockTHEworld]

that?s true! i am also very happy that GNR starts touring soon....

everything else is just a time-question

[Fox In A Top Hat]

just a thought, wud we have any of these troubles if the new band wasnt called Guns N' Roses? think about it if say the were called the Bongo Heads lol there wud be no beef about the GNR greatest hits being released.

[sandman]

i don't understand all the hate towards the label.

axl HAS all the power to stop the GH!!!!!

just turn over CD and give them the ok to release it!

then there would be no GH.

[axl_rose_700]

This is good news.
The tour will hopefully come to the north of England!!!
I think they should just let the GH come out, no-one except us gives a shit about it, people might buy it but they don't care.
Then get on with CD, that's the important thing here, but I imagine Axl/Sanctuary are too stuborn to let that happen.

[2NaFish]

Thanks mysteron, good of you to share with us.

[AC]

Are Guns N' Roses now a law firm? All I ever read next to their name is legal this, and court battle that....

By the end of all this Axl's gonna be a certified lawyer! If he's not already...

LMAO, this is all too funny now.

AA.

[Christos AG]

The general director of Virgin Megastores in Northern Greece knows about the Greatest Hits but he doesn't know the release date.

And they haven't sent anything to record stores. No fax, no update, no nothing.

The record stores know nothing about it.

Christos
Greece

[Doc Emmett Brown]

This is only my -opinion-, but it's going to become clear in the next two weeks or so (release date, 13th March) as to whether or not  the Greatest Hits album is going to be released, and it would be stupid to pursue the action after the album has been released, so I would guess it is safe to assume that 'decisions' will be made in the not too distant future. Is that logical? And the fact that they are pushing on with the tour must be a good thing too, no?

I dont understand at all.  Let's say GH is released.  Does that mean it will delay CD until fall/winter?  And if so, is GNR gonna tour without a new album AGAIN?!  It will only serve to remind people of the last failed tour without a new album!  

My simple mind tells me that the BIGGEST BANG for the buck is just to release CD!! GH $$ will be piddly compared to CD revenue!

Please not another tour without new music