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« on: March 04, 2004, 02:44:15 PM »

Official update is ; Guns n'roses are still together and will be touring from late May

I will further add that Sanctuary are waiting on the outcome of their action against the Greatest Hits album before deciding on what to do with Chinese Democracy

Please do not ask me any further questions as there is no further information at present

As usual, relevant items will be forwarded to Jarmo
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2004, 02:48:33 PM »

"I will further add that Sanctuary are waiting on the outcome of their action against the Greatest Hits album before deciding on what to do with Chinese Democracy"

Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap.

That's exactly what I was afraid was going to happen.

&*$#%@  Interscope/Geffen.  Greedy SOB's.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2004, 02:49:32 PM »

geeez
so sanctuary are deciding of the faith of CD ?
were they the ones holding cd that long ?
why do they have to see what going on with GH ?
can't just release the CD, looks like everything is "marketing , money, money ..."

yeah well
at least the touring news is a good news

thx myst.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2004, 02:54:20 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2004, 02:55:17 PM »

So GNR/Sanctuary are still trying to stop the GH??

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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2004, 02:57:07 PM »

Jingle Bells Jingle Bells Chinese on the way.....this thing isn't coming out ANYTIME """"""SOOOOOOOON"""""""""""" Embarrassed
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2004, 02:58:12 PM »

Well, if they are going to do something about the GH, they had better do it quick since the release date is pretty soon.  Now i kinda just want GH to come out because that looks like the only thing that delaying Chinese Democracy.  I bet we will get it around May.  Well, hopefully....
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2004, 02:58:32 PM »

damn this circus...if gnr/sanctuary takes on the legal actions, it will be long lasting battle, and that means we will not hear anytime soon from chinese democracy.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2004, 02:59:23 PM »

That must mean CD is done.  Cool info mysteron thanks for the post.
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2004, 03:02:35 PM »

I can't see how they (GN'R & Sanctuary) can stop the GH at this point (unless they prove some legal reasons for a 'cease and desist'). The GH package will be shipped to record store in the next week and a half. You mean to tell me that "they" think Universal Music is suddenly going to swallow the cost of all the pressing, packaging and promotion done for the GH so far?

Sounds like a losing battle to me. Axl & Co...don't stray from your primary focus here. Release Chinese Democracy...ASAP!

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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2004, 03:02:45 PM »

Jingle Bells Jingle Bells Chinese on the way.....this thing isn't coming out ANYTIME """"""SOOOOOOOON"""""""""""" Embarrassed

This is only my -opinion-, but it's going to become clear in the next two weeks or so (release date, 13th March) as to whether or not  the Greatest Hits album is going to be released, and it would be stupid to pursue the action after the album has been released, so I would guess it is safe to assume that 'decisions' will be made in the not too distant future. Is that logical? And the fact that they are pushing on with the tour must be a good thing too, no?
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2004, 03:03:26 PM »

I dont understand why Geffen would not want to put out CD instead of Greatest hits.  It makes no sense!  If they feel greatest hits is more marketable then CD they are dancing with Mr. Brownstone
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2004, 03:04:08 PM »

well, this is good news. Many artists are selling tickets for May/June concert dates and usually summer festival shows go on sale very early as well.  
I assume GnR will be hitting european festivals through the first couple months of summer. These festivals already have their own built-in promotional campaign in progress, so GnR doesn't have the burden of promoting the show and having their CD out in time.  However, if they have any notions of headline their own tour in the US, or other parts of the world, they must realize that they HAVE to have the new CD out to make it any kind of success. Somehow, cooler heads will prevail and the CD will get out.
Let's hope so, at least.
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2004, 03:06:52 PM »

I can't see how they (GN'R & Sanctuary) can stop the GH at this point (unless they prove some legal reasons for a 'cease and desist'). The GH package will be shipped to record store in the next week and a half. You mean to tell me that "they" think Universal Music is suddenly going to swallow the cost of all the pressing, packaging and promotion done for the GH so far?

Sounds like a losing battle to me. Axl & Co...don't stray from your primary focus here. Release Chinese Democracy...ASAP!



I agree.  Stopping CD would mean some sort of legal injuction (issued by a judge).  The only reason I can think of, off the top of my head, that an injuction would be issued is if GnR/Sanctuary provided compelling evidence that GH breeched their contract with Interscope/Geffen.  That would get the injunction issued, stop GH, and allow GnR/Sanctuary an opportunity to argue their case in court, holding up GH until, at least, the case was settled/decided.

Extended legal battles with your label, IMHO, are never a good sign about forthcoming material.... I'm hoping this will be the exception.

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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2004, 03:09:31 PM »

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This is only my -opinion-, but it's going to become clear in the next two weeks or so (release date, 13th March) as to whether or not  the Greatest Hits album is going to be released
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Print ads have already released for the week of GnRs greatest hits release, meaning if the GH got pulled now, the label would be on the hook for hundreds of thouasands of dollars in correction notices and/or reprinting costs. All of the main music retailers in the U.S. are going to have it in their Sunday AD on March 21st. The label is aware of the deadlines to pull it, and didn't.
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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2004, 03:10:26 PM »

I dont understand why Geffen would not want to put out CD instead of Greatest hits.  It makes no sense!  If they feel greatest hits is more marketable then CD they are dancing with Mr. Brownstone

IMHO, the issue is they want both.  They want to have their cake and eat it too.  They want the revenue from GH, and the new material.
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2004, 03:10:59 PM »

thank you for the update Mysteron!!!

i hope they manage it to stop the release of GH.


... but if not, i wonder how long it will delay Chinese Democracy!?
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2004, 03:12:00 PM »

Mysteron I know you said no questions but this question has nothing to do with what you posted.  Do you know how many albums GNR owes Geffen and if it is one will GH count as it?

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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2004, 03:12:29 PM »

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I dont understand why Geffen would not want to put out CD instead of Greatest hits.  It makes no sense!  If they feel greatest hits is more marketable then CD they are dancing with Mr. Brownstone
I don't think it's an issue of GH Vs CD, although I could be wrong. I think it's the label wanting more bang for their buck...and the GH to gain interest for CD. I imagine Axl wants no reminder whatsoever of the old band, and just wants all the attention on the new stuff, that's why he's pissed the Greatest Hits is being released.
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2004, 03:14:47 PM »

IMHO, the issue is they want both.  They want to have their cake and eat it too.  They want the revenue from GH, and the new material.

Yeah I dont see why they just dont release both at the same time and promote both at once to save a little money
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