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Title: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: ARC on May 28, 2006, 10:19:10 PM
It was amazing to hear those thousands of people singing "Don't Cry" don't ya think...?

Axl - take note. Play the fucking song.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: volcano62 on May 28, 2006, 10:24:50 PM
yeah it was awesome


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: veritas55 on May 28, 2006, 10:26:29 PM

That's a beautifully played part of his solo.   I really liked how he played that -- I wish he would take note of the reaction and cut back on the carbon-copy shredding and play more melodic stuff, cause he obviously a really talented guitar player.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: Top-Hatted One on May 28, 2006, 10:43:22 PM
thats the problem his shreading is not melodic enough except on Nov Rain. Melody is where Slash & even Buckethead thrive. Nightrain NEEDS to be more melodic


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: da_pope on May 28, 2006, 10:52:28 PM
thats the problem his shreading is not melodic enough except on Nov Rain. Melody is why Slash & even Buckethead thrive. Nightrain NEEDS to be more melodic

No.
I swear to god if sweep picks or taps the outro of November Rain I'll shoot him.

Play the fucking thing regularly.
I'm not saying don't add your spin on it but don't sweep or tap in a solo like that.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: Booker Floyd on May 28, 2006, 10:57:56 PM
Fantastic solo


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: NickNasty on May 28, 2006, 11:31:52 PM
it was phenomenal as simply a solo, but the crowd singing all the lyrics just brought it home :D



Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on May 28, 2006, 11:59:00 PM
And Axl probably kicked his ass for playing part of it.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on May 29, 2006, 12:01:44 AM
Why not actually play the song?  I still don''t get why the new band hasn't played Don't Cry live


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: jameslofton29 on May 29, 2006, 12:07:09 AM
It was amazing to hear those thousands of people singing "Don't Cry" don't ya think...?

Axl - take note. Play the fucking song.
In my opinion, this was Axl's way of testing out the reaction of the song. If it got a good response, or if no one cared Bumblefoot would just start playing something else at that moment instead of DC. I do believe we will hear the full song at some point during the Euro tour.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: bumblerocks on May 29, 2006, 12:09:06 AM
It was amazing to hear those thousands of people singing "Don't Cry" don't ya think...?

Axl - take note. Play the fucking song.
In my opinion, this was Axl's way of testing out the reaction of the song. If it got a good response, or if no one cared Bumblefoot would just start playing something else at that moment instead of DC. I do believe we will hear the full song at some point during the Euro tour.

of course people would have given it a good response, wtf are you on :nervous:


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: GetInTheJungle on May 29, 2006, 12:12:06 AM
I hope we hear it - mix up the setlist a little.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: da_pope on May 29, 2006, 12:14:09 AM
Ya, I still don't get how Axl refuses to play one of, if not the best GN'R songs.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: Top-Hatted One on May 29, 2006, 12:18:41 AM
its a great song...really simple but just perfect. lots of raw emotion. I just think its too nostalgic for Axl...quite a shame :-\


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on May 29, 2006, 12:20:23 AM
Ya, I still don't get how Axl refuses to play one of, if not the best GN'R songs.

It would also be a song that's not overly taxing for him to sing.  It has a lower vocal range for most of the song, so it would give Axl a little break in between harder songs to sing


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on May 29, 2006, 12:23:51 AM
anyone who thinks Ron cant play needs to listen to this

http://www.bumblefoot.com/audio/Bumblefoot_-_featuring_Dennis_Leeflang_on_drums_-_Fire_(Hendrix_cover).mp3


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: da_pope on May 29, 2006, 12:35:08 AM
Anyone know the tab for this btw?


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: blueheart on May 29, 2006, 05:35:24 AM
I hope they ll play it in a concert soon


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: Megaguns on May 29, 2006, 05:44:56 AM
I totally think that they will play it live soon. just drop some other songs, I really dont see the need to play LALD or KOHD for that matter.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: You Gonna Eat That? on May 29, 2006, 05:50:20 AM
Maybe they should do it like they did Wild Horses on the UYI tour... have Bumblefoot play it on guitar for a bit then Axl comes out and just sings the chorus


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: Jimmy? on May 29, 2006, 05:55:40 AM
anyone who thinks Ron cant play needs to listen to this

http://www.bumblefoot.com/audio/Bumblefoot_-_featuring_Dennis_Leeflang_on_drums_-_Fire_(Hendrix_cover).mp3

that was tha shit  : ok: awesome cover  :yes:


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: In absentia on May 29, 2006, 06:02:21 AM
thats the problem his shreading is not melodic enough except on Nov Rain. Melody is why Slash & even Buckethead thrive. Nightrain NEEDS to be more melodic

No.
I swear to god if sweep picks or taps the outro of November Rain I'll shoot him.

Play the fucking thing regularly.
I'm not saying don't add your spin on it but don't sweep or tap in a solo like that.

Totally agree.

Tapping sucks, it bores to me so much ::)
and people think that those guitarists are fantastic :rofl: :rofl:

Do what you want with the new songs, but don't ruin my "old Guns N' Roses babies".


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: jimmythegent on May 29, 2006, 06:12:33 AM
it was pretty good, not great and the lead in was wank

he seems pretty unfocused to me although once he kicked in with DC it was a nice Hendrixy interpretation


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: CAFC Nick on May 29, 2006, 06:15:13 AM
Just a bit off topic but I thought Richard Fortus absolutely kicked arse at Rock in Rio.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: russtcb on May 29, 2006, 07:09:57 AM
And Axl probably kicked his ass for playing part of it.

I know he did it at another show too, so maybe not. It might have been Madrid, I can't remember but I know he's done it once before RIR5.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: gnrback06 on May 29, 2006, 07:21:53 AM
shannon hoon ?? i  think perhaps he misses the guy...


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: busngabb on May 29, 2006, 08:14:19 AM
It must have shown Axl a thing or two. I wonder if he let Axl know he was going to do it?

It shows he has learnt Don't Cry, perhaps they are thinking of playing it again?


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: Tomorrows on May 29, 2006, 08:41:52 AM
It was amazing to hear those thousands of people singing "Don't Cry" don't ya think...?

Axl - take note. Play the fucking song.
In my opinion, this was Axl's way of testing out the reaction of the song. If it got a good response, or if no one cared Bumblefoot would just start playing something else at that moment instead of DC. I do believe we will hear the full song at some point during the Euro tour.

Dude! Don't Cry is a classic and was a single. There is absolutely no need to test it out for audiences.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: Origen on May 29, 2006, 08:45:11 AM
And Axl probably kicked his ass for playing part of it.

I know he did it at another show too, so maybe not. It might have been Madrid, I can't remember but I know he's done it once before RIR5.

Yes it was Madrid.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: AxlsMainMan on May 29, 2006, 08:47:19 AM
It seriously froze my heart when Bumblefoot started playing Dont Cry...that song has such relevance to my life it's haunting...

I really thought they were going to play it, and when they didn't...I was heartbroken, but Better made up for it...sort of... ;)


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: guns_n_roses on May 29, 2006, 04:13:32 PM
i got chills down my spine listenin to the solo. reminded me of alot of things. i love dont cry and thal did an amazing job too. it was weird seein axl with a bunch of guys that werent the old band. from the originals or even the guys from 2002. the face of gnr changed.. FOR THE GOOD


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: directionality on May 30, 2006, 09:50:23 AM
I'm hoping that Thal's "Don't Cry" solo was in some way a feeler for how a modern audience might react to a different Illusions tune, thus setting up its inclusion in a future setlist.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: littleredcorvette on May 30, 2006, 10:52:02 AM
thats the problem his shreading is not melodic enough except on Nov Rain. Melody is where Slash & even Buckethead thrive. Nightrain NEEDS to be more melodic

Man, I couldn't agree more. Bucket doesn't have the blues style that Slash has but he brought just as much to the table in melody. His Nighttrain solos were off the hook and his own solo spots were amazing except when he dragged Old Macdonald out for 5 minutes. But his solos were a showcase of his ability and also had some amazing stuff off his Coma album like 'Big Sur Mon'. When he got to the end of that one there was always a massive roar from the crowd.

Bumble has definitely grown in confidence since the first 2 NYC shows where he was bricking it but as much as his Nightrain solo at Rio was technically awesome, it just didn't have the awesome melodic side that Bucket brought.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: Calcy on May 30, 2006, 10:53:02 AM
I'm hoping that Thal's "Don't Cry" solo was in some way a feeler for how a modern audience might react to a different Illusions tune, thus setting up its inclusion in a future setlist.

Hopefully, next trial maybe Estranged?  :)


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: deanaxlrose on May 30, 2006, 11:10:39 AM
It would also be a song that's not overly taxing for him to sing.? It has a lower vocal range for most of the song, so it would give Axl a little break in between harder songs to sing
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yea,but in the end it has a high note(very high).I see(live in Tokyo,DVD)Axl face turns red in the end of the song. :hihi:


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: gmGnR on May 30, 2006, 11:46:20 AM
I totally think that they will play it live soon. just drop some other songs, I really dont see the need to play LALD or KOHD for that matter.

yep, drop these 2 and play DC and/or other stuff


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: NiGhTrAiN? on May 30, 2006, 04:26:17 PM
It was amazing to hear those thousands of people singing "Don't Cry" don't ya think...?

Axl - take note. Play the fucking song.

Hope they finally include it on the set list. I think that made clear ppl are craving to hear it :-)


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: faldor on May 30, 2006, 04:36:40 PM
For all the people who say the crowd was listless and emotionless, they sang "Don't Cry" during Ron's solo and they kept doing that soccer-like (futbol) chant.  Whatever that was, I thought it was cool.  I thought they were into it plenty.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: bazgnr on May 30, 2006, 11:09:41 PM
It must have shown Axl a thing or two. I wonder if he let Axl know he was going to do it?

It shows he has learnt Don't Cry, perhaps they are thinking of playing it again?

I can't imagine Ron *not* telling Axl he was going to play it, or in some way clearing it with Axl first.  No matter how happy and less tempermental Axl may be (appear to be?) these days, that's an awfully big risk to take, let alone being the new guy...


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: russtcb on May 31, 2006, 07:33:53 AM
It must have shown Axl a thing or two. I wonder if he let Axl know he was going to do it?

It shows he has learnt Don't Cry, perhaps they are thinking of playing it again?

I can't imagine Ron *not* telling Axl he was going to play it, or in some way clearing it with Axl first.  No matter how happy and less tempermental Axl may be (appear to be?) these days, that's an awfully big risk to take, let alone being the new guy...

Maybe he just did it on his own at Madrid as a tester w/ Axl before RIR.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: guns_n_roses on May 31, 2006, 09:28:31 AM
I'm hoping that Thal's "Don't Cry" solo was in some way a feeler for how a modern audience might react to a different Illusions tune, thus setting up its inclusion in a future setlist.

Hopefully, next trial maybe Estranged?? :)

Didnt axl say that estranged was his and Slash's song? wouldnt that mean he refuses to play it without slash?  :( and what ever happened to those songs that izzy, duff and slash made? they said it was for axl and axl only to sing. Ive heard this alot im not sure if its true though.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: russtcb on May 31, 2006, 10:16:58 AM
I'm hoping that Thal's "Don't Cry" solo was in some way a feeler for how a modern audience might react to a different Illusions tune, thus setting up its inclusion in a future setlist.

Hopefully, next trial maybe Estranged?  :)

Didnt axl say that estranged was his and Slash's song? wouldnt that mean he refuses to play it without slash?  :( and what ever happened to those songs that izzy, duff and slash made? they said it was for axl and axl only to sing. Ive heard this alot im not sure if its true though.

With nothing concrete to go on, my guess is that they're just playing the songs they think most people want to hear right now. Not die hard fans, but most people. I'm not saying that's by any means a fact, it's strictly a guess.

When the tour gets underway in the States I'm hoping they'll be stretching into the back catalog further and further.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: The Estranged MrFlashbax on May 31, 2006, 10:40:22 AM
where can i hear this dont cry?


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: russtcb on May 31, 2006, 10:42:47 AM
where can i hear this dont cry?

Go to the on demand area of AOL and watch Bumblefoots solo. It's at the end of that.


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: .Seal on May 31, 2006, 10:43:15 AM
where can i hear this dont cry?
Here you go: http://rapidshare.de/files/21615453/19-ronsolo.mp3.html  : ok:


Title: Re: Ron's Don't Cry
Post by: russtcb on May 31, 2006, 10:47:38 AM
where can i hear this dont cry?
Here you go: http://rapidshare.de/files/21615453/19-ronsolo.mp3.html  : ok:

Or that too....hehe....