Here Today... Gone To Hell!

i just saw that there's a stream for the festival. maybe they'll be showing gnr tomorrow, which i doubt though. i wish everyone who's not going luck that they will stream it

http://www.graspop.be/pages/index.php?taal=en#

I'm trying to get someone with Belgacom ADSL so he can rip the high quality stream!!!

Brownstone, i hope you're still planning on bootlegging the show though??

Yes i will film it :) unless they find it at the entrance

Since Korn can't come and graspop couldn't arrange another band in the same league as them, they arranged for GnR to do a full set: 2,5 hours. So this could be a great gig indeed.

Yeah, let's hope they get permission to broadcast the show. I can't record it 'cause I'll fuckin' BE there.
See ya tomorrow in Dessel!

you dont need belgacom adsl
for my dsl connection in germany it works just fine

here the links for windows media player

http://wm.streampower.be/graspop_hi -->high quality
http://wm.streampower.be/graspop_lo -->low quality

Yeah, just readed on the site:

21-6-2006 GUNS N? ROSES to play a two-and-a-half-hour set at Graspop!

Last week, when Graspop was informed that KORN would be cancelling their European tour, the search for a worthy replacement was underway within hours. Unfortunately it?s next to impossible to find a band of the same calibre as Korn on such short notice. Graspop negotiated with TOOL, DEFTONES, LIFE OF AGONY and MACHINE HEAD, but none of these bands were able to confirm their visit to GMM2006. As a result, GUNS N? ROSES will take the stage a bit sooner and play a longer set! Other bands like MY DYING BRIDE and ALICE IN CHAINS will also play a slightly longer set.

Gnr play SOONER, lets hope so. :peace: Btw Alice in chians is playing, maybe the longer set will included a few Duff songs

I want the stream

Maybe its my chance to get Rhiad in good quality, if they're indeed stream the show!!!! :headbanger:

Damn it, they will not broadcast it. I asked about the broadcast and here their reply:

De: Delphine <delphine@graspop.be>   
Para: Bruno <xxxxxxx@gmail.com>
Data: 23/06/2006 11:54
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No! The band don?t want to be filmed. That is of course a pity for the fans!!

 

Metal greetings,

Delphine

There goes my 5 minutes of great excitement...

shitty :'(

oh well we are bound to get a boot of some kinda anyway....2 1/2 hours :o hope fully they fill that 1/2 hr with songs not talking and longer solos....maybe all 7 "new" tracks :yes: that would be sweet, or Don't cry or Civil War...that would be cool too : ok:

Maybe they'll actually play TWAT for a change.  ::)

I really dont understand why they dont play this song. It's a great song, and yeah it might be hard to play live, but judging from the Hammerstein show, they can pull it off. Axl please play this fuckin song more.

The show will be transmitted by Internet??

if you read the topic carefully
you would know that it wont be broadcasted

Thanks voodoo. let's hope brownstone will make it.


I wouldn't hate in either case but the latter with the premiere of ryadh 06 version would be super sweet.

Maybe this was the real reason behind the Rock Am Ring saga too? If so, why couldn't they just have said it...

it?s going to be broadcasted on 11th august dude : ok:

the only band that didn`t want to be filmed was tool...

How do you know that and where will they broadcast it?

i think he meens rockamring will be broadcasted 11th aug
graspop isn'T to be broadcasted

think he means rock am ring, not graspop...for graspop there's a little chance that they broadcast some songs on TMF belgium (belgian mtv or something).

finalllllllyyyy i will see guns....27 hours ?8)

just got my results from school...and I graduated a little unexpected ?:hihi:...so euhm it's gonna be one HELL of a party tommorow ?:beer:

I wonder why Axl doesn't want his performances broadcasted over the internet?  Maybe he lacks confidence and is afraid they will sound like shit.

hey axl, give me some 'rocket queen' and 'my michelle' tomorrow and my night will be great! see you all at graspop

so what the fuck happened? ??? no word yet?

The show is on the 24.

haha oops ...gettin ahead of myself here :-\ :hihi:

I'm about to go to Graspop (just 1 more hour and I'm off). Just a quick question though... I wanna take pictures with my camera, is it better to leave the flash OFF or ON when I shoot the stage and it's dark outside?

Read the Rock am Ring topic dude! It will be aired on the 11 of august from 00.30 to 02.00 or something... on WDR Fernsehen...

its better to leave flash ON.but there is no difference, unless you are in first rows.

Thanks for the advise and I won't be in the first rows, those places are probably already taken  :hihi:

Unless you have some kind of strobe light attached to your camera then the flash wont reach the stage.

two-and-a-half-hour set, yet GnR (Axl) won't broadcast any of it   :nervous:

i really dont know what is all the fuss about gnr playing a two and a half hour set :confused:

isnt that the time they usually play? i think it is :-X

No, they play when Axl shows up  :P

Thats really shitty GNR wont let them broadcast it. Other than Tool at RAR every other band has no problem with it.

I love GNR and I think Axl has been great on thi9s tour so far but I dont agree with this decision at all. Sometimes I wish he would get his head out of his ass and actually do something cool for the fans.

I got really excited when I saw on Blabbermouth that they would be broadcasting GNR, then I read how the band "dont want to be filmed", thats just stupid IMO.

i've had this feed on for a while now... and it must be the worst "live" feed I've ever seen.... all they've shown are shitty interviews with unknown bands

one question.will there be any updates?I didn't see anyone talking about contacting person on concert to get updates........

Thats all I have been getting aswell. And now its just a black screen advertising the festival.

Anyone know when the bands are supposed to be shown, or when they are supposed to start playing?

2.5 hours to go!!

i'm at graspop
it's hot as hell here and a lot of dust

Alice in chains was good but they finished earlier then sceduled!!


Soulfly next then GUNS N' ROSES!!!

A lot of metalheads here btw, but also a lot of gunners ;)


The announcer said something like: we need some papers to raise the stage, gnr thinks it's to much leaning to the left or something :p

gonna be great here!!!!!!!!

must be awesome to be there and actually know that they are there too!!!! i will leave in a few hours to see them in denmark, i have waited too long for this so i'm fucking PSYHED!!!!! ;D :beer: finally... it's happening... :drool:
 ;D

mm  too bad there's no stream.. i was looking forward to that.. :-\

2.5 hour set?

that's what...6 or 7 guitar solos for this show?

 :hihi:

no actually Axl will not show up so it will be all solos.. 2.5 hours  :hihi:

 Man this soulfly band has some issues! The crowd looks nuts too. I have the stream playing soulfly so maybe Guns will be on afterall? Doubt it though. This is my first post over here BTW, I'm a regular at mygnrforum, but some fucks hacked into the system and it is screwed for right now.

Soulfly is still on. Nice to see some Brazil flags on stage. :)

Hopefully, someone will forgot to stop the broadcast on GN'R time. :hihi:

GN'R wont be broadcasted. They said they didnt want to be streamed.

fuck man soulfly sucks ass!

 Yes they are terrible! WTF with all the moshing? Take it easy guys, grab a couple of brews and fucking turn the anger notch down a little bit  : ok:

I know man, they said that in reply to MY email. I was just joking. ::)

how long until soulfly ends?

Soulfly are pretty good, I still prefer old Sepultura to Soulfly though.

I really wish GNR were going to be streaming, because the quality of this stream is fucking awesome.

who knows they could just be fucking with us im going to wait and see if gnr do play it could happen. But i really dont see why they are so dickish about streaming their shit they should be happy so many fucking people want to see them and let the ppl who cant go watch them on the net tv or at least on a ppv or hbo.

are these guys still Soulfly? 

IT also could possibly be since Brain isnt  there , they may not want to stream a show without the entire band.

no bc they didnt want to have another show streamed i forgot which one it was though.

JB that was Rock am ring but it will be bvroadcasted on the telly in august.


Good call.

yea thats it but brain was there everyone was there they just didnt want to. But its still fucked up that axl never does the live stream. They did rio and it rocked so why not do more!

They probably don't want to take the risk after the sound problems with the RIR stream

thats probably the true reasons behind it

thats not a good reason to dissapoint all the fans who would kill to go see the show but cant. But fuck it let axl do what he wants . BBut the real question is why is soulfly still on? :'(

SoulFly is out .

apparently soulfly is over  : ok:



now lets hope      :peace: :peace: :peace:

yep
waiting...
=\

That won't work this time :'(...

which stream are you guys watching?

this one

http://wm.streampower.be/graspop_hi

Thanks :)

still nothing :no:

come on guns just fucking start man!

are they scheduled to have started already?

Yes. 22:30

well soulsuck was on a long time they are probably setting up for guns now. but it takes so fucking long much longer then it should.

I know im the only one but please give me some RHIAD it fucking rocks and Axl having his vocie back !!!!

Also blood or somthing simple is on the streaming.

all im seeing in interviews

is that just what they do durring performances

you're not the only one, i'd like to hear rhiad too :)

the stream stopped
does this mean gnr took the stage?

Mine says it's playing, but it's just showing a frozen picture of a guy from Caliban

its been like that for 10 mins now

Probablly......if there aren't showing it oh well i mean at least they showed up

same here

same here

same here  :rofl:

Basically,


My bet is that the show's gone halfway through by now.

that guy freaks me out!!! FUCK GO AWAY!

Guns are not on yet. They will be soon

Are we gonna recieve updates from someone at the show?

Good deal.  Too bad we won't be able to see it.  Oh well, I'm used to it.

Eeekk....you said soon! ?:nervous:

We had some people posting from the place earlier, right? ?I hope they will be able to post when they go on.

soon???

we HATE that word!!!

 ?:confused:

How bout "in due time"

or "shortly"

 :P

Mysteron - Is this gonna be the standard for the entire tour, whenever Guns plays a show that is webcast, they will not let themselves be broadcast?

Axl needs to start letting us see the shows damn it!!!!!!!!! ?:rant:

Calm down, you'll see a show live in two days!!!

I guessed wrong. :P


Are you referring to me?  :confused:

They did it at RIR5...

Or else, buy a ticket...

No I think he was talking about the guy frozen on the web stream  ;)

isnt it like 1130 pm there

Ya, they definately should've been on a good while ago

Not this one. ?;D

 :) ta Littlfly. I hope so.

yep, it's half past 11 there.


that's so. :yes:

ehh????

fuck..now they're playing the interview, scary eyes

Soccer game is just over now so Axl should be onstage any time now ?:P

Yeah, they?re playing the interview for the 18th time. I thought this was called LIVE stream.....

I wonder why they are mostly late to start.  What the hell goes on backstage with them?

Axl is what?s going on.  ;)

Lol, maybe he was watching the game backstage, since it went on to overtime he thought "oh well, these people can wait another 30 minutes..."

Sex , drugs tham ?go on stage doing the Rock n Roll ?:hihi:

Pretty poor considering the band had allegedly agreed to come on earlier than scheduled and play a longer set due to Korn's cancellation.

I guess as long as they hit the stage.  That's fine with me

the show started?

wow this is odd its not like guns to be an hour to  a show

Not that I know of, I was just saying, as long as they do go on it's cool

I wouldn't be shocked if people began walking out, considering this delay.

Axl shouldn't play with fire like this: another blow up like Philly and he will be handcuffed to find a promoter for the States.

FUCK  what are they waiting for

we don't even know for sure if they started or not, they probably started half an hour ago and we don't know about it

is anyone there supposed to be giving us updates?   

http://www.gnrfrance.net/gnr/actualites-news-guns-n-roses/mises-a-jour-en-direct-du-graspop-en-belgique-484.htm for updates...
Show started at 23:45 (french time)

Damn me only knowing one language!!!!

Thanks for the updates though ;D

started
23h43 : "La pluie s'arr?te. Intro. Jungle."

so, there's a stream or not?  :'(

no stream...

they were supposed to be on stage at 22:30 ?
and just when I tought they will start to come on time........ ?:crying:

thanks for update ...

well that's a big relief for me.  I was getting worried that a riot was about to start.

Axl sucks sometimes with this shit, why not just let them fucking stream it for the fans it really fucking pisses me off!!!!!

the show start in 23:45

The rain stop and jungle comin'



sorry , I'm not really good in english

this stream has interviews with some performers, but i dont think they will broadcast gnr .. mmm .,,

http://wm.streampower.be/graspop_hi

concert is for people who are right there,and paid tickets too see them.relax.you'll get bootlegs.
imagine if you are tool fan.they dont let concert to be on big screens!I dont even need to mention about filming/live streaming their shows.be happy with what you get.......

how many people are there anyway?

correct me if im wrong, but did the person giving the updates over at gnrfrance just call axl a retard?  :D


23h23 : "C'est la poisse, Axl est en retard. Il commence ? pleuvoir. Les roadies b?chent tout ce qui est ?lectrique. Le public gueule !"

lol Babelfish says that it means "Axl is late" :hihi:

yes, Axl is late of 1h15

an hour and a quarter late eh?  :-\

ah an hour and 15 minutes is nothing :beer:

anyone care to translate this? ?:-\

try google translate.

it's bad, axl is late and the rain become

the roadie hide all eletric thing. the crowd bawl

?This is bullshit. Axl's late. It's beginning to rain. The crew is covering everything electric. The public is mad and yelling.?

It is pitches it, Axl is late. It starts to rain. The roadies cover all that is electric. The public mouth

So the show hasn?t started yet???  :-\

r they still playing

they played wttj

No, they are playing now. ?But because we are not receiving many updates, we are trying to see how many different ways we can translate the french sentance ?;D ?:hihi:

i  translated? :rant:

Hehe OK. I was getting worried there for a minute, since I am seeing them on Monday. :P

Yes you did!? Thank you! :D? Many other people also tried to and I made a joke because they all came out with different words.

somehow i have a bad feeling about this show :-\

They survived at Download.. Lets just calm down and wait for more info. ;)

EXACTLY! Good idea, let's just let the show play out people!!

Maybe Axl was late because he was busy writing out a Christmas card to Slash? ;)

A really long one...to make up for all of those years that he "forgot" to send one  :hihi:

I am just gonna say I am glad I flew to New York and saw two shows.

I think with Guns...you are safer and guaranteed a no glitch concert if you attend the first week of shows.


It's surreal.  In 2002, Guns pulled off European tour with no glitches.  Then we all know what happened that night in Philly.

Now it's kinda reversed.  They did sucessful shows in NYC and it seems that Europe now has a lot of glitches....weather....lateness....sound problems.

If it's raining really bad....is it safe still to sing with a cordless microphone? :nervous:

I think it's still safe. I've done it a few times.

So, any news from the Show?

No we don't and the Philly fans are still whining about it to this day!!!? :hihi:

Mention that to the Vancouver fans back in 2002 and see what they think.

 My friend offered to take me to a Guns and Roses Show in Providence back in 1993. Yeah.... that was a lot of fun. Those Bums never showed up! We all know whose fault that was. Good to see that Axl is being a good boy now.

Some at CD.com said it was raining heavily, and the band played three songs but are now covering up the equipment... people are leaving. Don't know what their source is for this though..

someone is texting someone at CD.com. i was just there forgot the guys name though.

If it is the rain, then it is not necessarily the band's fault although one wonders if axl had started the show on time if it would have mattered....

I can't find that thread, where is it?

hey i just told you that on aim lol

lol. i agree with you.

shit that sucks! :'(

This should teach Axl a lesson to go on stage sooner

this is not good... :'( :no:

Do we REALLY know this is going on? Nope.

Hmm, sucks if it's true, but I wonder if the crowd are also thinking it wouldn't have mattered so much had Axl been on time.

Would the band reschedule a Belgian date if this is true? I dunno what the practice is for a rained out gig.

Why is this everyones response to anything that goes wrong?? This band isn't perfect and the tour can't be 100% perfect. If the show gets rained out, life will go on. The band will play a make up date sometime and things will be ok.

This isn't going to teach Axl anything. He will continue to go on stage anytime he feels like just like he always has for the entire existance of this band as a headliner.

oh please ... Axl's been late to shows his entire career.? The only lesson this can teach Axl is that it sometimes rains at shows outdoors.? ::)

he really should fucking show up on time though even though it does build the crowd up and hype them up more shit can happen and fucking ruin a show just like today. 45min is late enough but what was he like an 1hr 25min late today thats just fucked up does he want to start a riot and have ppl get killed.

If the show was stopped because of rain, it really sucks that people are gonna be blaming Axl.   :'(  It's not like he could stop the rain from falling.

I remember pukkelpop and it had rained heavily for HOURS, so much we all got sick afterwards.
 :hihi:

Yeah, he could get on stage sooner, but how the hell could he know it would rain so much?

Does anyone have any idea how the fill in drummer sounded on the three songs they did play?

Also....does any one have any idea what three songs they were??? ?;)

 This isn't going to go over well here..... but I'll say it anyway. I believe in many ways Axl is just an Idiot who never learns his lesson. He's done well showing up. So props for that. However....... DUDE... get up an hour earlier in the morning. Then you'll have no excuse to be late. Why is it that certain people can't master a fucking clock?

Because there's no such thing as bad press. Since you and everyone else keep talking about it, it's gonna keep happeningh.

ha.... the weather channel?

I'm gonna take a WILD guess and say Jungle, ISE and Brownstone  :hihi:

Dude i could care less if Axl does not show up on time as long as he shows up.
He cant control Rain its the festvieals jobto protect against the rain.

On a side not Fink is a Jesus Decendent maybe he can stop the rain.

So, how come we don't have any new info about what happened for real? It may had started again and we just don't know yet, as far as I know.

I don't really care about the rain , all I want to know ?is if Axl voice was raspy like in Donnington for the 3 songs . ?That is what I am really concerned about. ?I don't want a mickey mouse voice.

Maybe the delay was because of the rain, we don't know anything, let's just find out exactly what happened before bashing

They are currently playing " Blame it on the Rain "   by Milli vanilla at the concert  while they wait for the rain to subside

    Hey definitely appropiate time for that song. Great Call! Good song too!

  Please click this link so that we can enjoy the intermission with our friends at the show.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NwrL9MV6jSk&search=milli%20vanilli? ?:hihi:

great so theres another show they wont play bc they had to be a fucking year late ::). Dont fucking come on so fucking late next time :rant: :rant:

You guys are jumping the gun eh?  Maybe wait till someone returns from the gig before you have a caniption fit?

im pretty sure it was cancelled dude.

Why exactly? I saw Oasis this year under _a lot_ of rain, I don't think this is excuse for cancelling a show. And doing it after playing 3 songs is not a smart move.

Also, if it was cancelled and people were leaving....wouldn't we have heard from someone?  We had people texting from the show, I thought.  If they were leaving, they would have time to text, right?

or just trying to get the hell out bc ppl have to start riots when they dont show like its going to make everything better. I dont think they are playing and that french site said ppl were leaving

Is the rain torrentail or something? Is there a risk that the players are going to get electrocuted?

Oasis aren't exactly a band that move around a lot.

GN'R run around the stage a lot.  I guess it being slippery might be pretty dangerous to their health?

yeah, also the risk of electrocution.....

You're wrong about Oasis: they don't move around at all.  :hihi:

Nothing says GN'R has to run around a lot though.

Maybe Axl is afraid of being struck by lightning.   It could happen he is one unlucky motherfucker.

Could the show just be on rain delay?

So, no word yet on what is or is not going down at the show??

Wasn't it raining during one of the '02 Asian shows? I really doubt the show's been cancelled, delayed at worst. Put your "Jump to Conclusions" mat back in the closet...

If they come on is there a live stream?

nop no live stream

Isnt it like 3-4 am there now?

mm the lack of updates makes me anxious hehe hope everything is going fine with rain and all

I think its pretty strange. I had a friend texting me before the show. The last word I had was hours ago saying it was raining. I've tried phoning him and texting him but his phone is now switched off.

I find it awfully strange that NO ONE has any information about it. Its a massive festival in Belgium, a major European country. Do we not have any Belgian forum members at the gig or who have friends at the gig?

Perhaps Buckethead came down in his spaceship and abducted them all?

The lack of updates is truly weird, let's hope nothing bad happened...

If anything bad happened we would know by now.

that french site has no new updates. the shows site says nothing either.

That's what I'm thinking too.  But this lack of info for so long is REALLY strange.

hmm... interesting.. cant speculate or my post will be deleted ?;D sucks..

But if the show was on I think we would know something by now too. By the way, the show should be over or nearly over by now if it really started at 23:45 (Belgium time), it should be almost 4 AM there right now

Why is that?

fuck we'll find out in the morning if there was a show or not.

maybe axl locked all the people and made them to here chinese democracy...
jo!!



who nows, but this is strageeeee
very, I know that some forum members would be in the show, so... it's so fucking RARO...

if yall really wanna know whats up then email "mysteron".

here is an idea
maybe they are watching the show

shows over, they played a full set

from thenewguns.com

Sounds very good, but I will reserve celebration till I hear something from more people ;D

GNR2006 is telling the truth, the show is over and the band played a full set.

I'm back from another GREAT show, AXL's voice was amazing, the time off must have done him good!!!

I was front row before and during the show
and before it started i heard the security guy saying that axl arrived in Brussels with a plane and should arrive around 22.45, then the security guy said that Axl wanted to eat and go to a hairdresser before the show  :hihi:

Crowd was good! some dudes were screaming for slash but it was cool, only like 3 people or so!

Security was very focussed on camera's, NO PHOTO's!
I saw the security head into the crow and take a camcorder from someone!

no surprises in setlist

what i remember:

Welcome to the jungle
It's so easy
Mr Brownstone
Live and let die
Better
Robin Solo
Sweet Child O'Mine
You could be mine
Knocking on heaven's door
Jam
Dizzy piano solo (Ziggy Stardust)
The Blues
Band Introductions
Richard Guitar Solo
Richard and Robin solo (Beautiful)
Out Ta Get Me
Ron Guitar Solo ("Don't Cry")
November Rain
IRS
My Michelle
Patience
Nightrain

encore
Paradise city


(not sure of the setlist!!!)

I know someone who went to the show and I finally got in touch with them. They played a full set, Axl was amazing, all is well.

COOL! Someone who was there!  THANK YOU!!!!

btw, I believed ya gnr2006, but I wanted more confirmation is all :)

cool..

do you remember them playing Madagascar? i think u missed that one :hihi:

Yeah!! I was desperate to know if there had been a concert!  : ok: And what about the drummer?

Ha, anyone else relieved? lol

Def no Maddy or CD played?

And dammit, I want Rocket Queen to be a permanent fixture in the setlist! Axl must bow before me and my selfish needs.

ya muthafucka yaaa..... ;D

Just got home from the show. 2 words for it. Fucking awsome. G N' R started to play around 23.45h. and stopped playing around 1.50h. Same set as usual. They started with Welcome to the jungle and ended with Paradise city. 3 songs from the new album where played. The blues,Better and I.R.S. Axl was in a good mood. He introduced I.R.S as the interweb fave and he jokes around about all the downloaders. The rest of the band where also great. Robin was dressed up like some hippie indian at the begin of the set. He even had a sweatband on his head with a feather in it. Frank,the fill in for Brain,was fucking great on the drums. He played the songs very well and he reminds me a bit of Matt Sorum. Sorry for the short review but i'm very tired. I'm going to sleep very soon.

So key questions: ?Who played on the drums? Confirmed setlist?

Frank on drums ... any pics

well, but it wasnt raining? did they stop the show?

Before guns came on it was raining, so you saw they crew covering the whole stage up with big plastics and when it stopt raining they removed it and went on there knees to dry the stage up with towels, crowd was really loud (laughing) when they did this  : ok:

oh ok Evil Ash, thank u : ok: :love:

I thought Better was the internet fave.. ???

thanks for the reviews! sounds like an awesome show but what about the longer 2.5 hrs set??


and LMAO at Robin wearing a sweatband and a feather!! :rofl: I want pics of that!

No,it was raining before the show not during the show.
Evil ash your right about the setlist. And as you said. The crowd was realy great.

how was the drummer

What happened to brain?

Sick?

Wife having her  baby a few weeks early

Oh, thanks.

Was his voice as raspy as it was in Donnington   ??   I really want to know if he has gone back to singing like 02'  .   I hope not

"Like a broken record for so long"

who cares if he farts the songs out of his ass as the new 06 style- its axl.  anything he gives the audience is still better than most could even dream of doing

That`s True! : ok: Axl is Better now than in 2002 but in 2002 he wasn`t as bad as people say. Axl Rules  ;D

i herd show was taped

 I JUST CAME BACK FROM THE SHOW, FEAR NOT !! what I heard at graspop may be his best performance of 2006, he nailed all the songs from start to finish, his voice is perfect , I had a smile from ear to ear when he kept on nailing song after song.....BETTER WAS FANTASTIC ! The drummer fucked up a bit but nobody noticed..... Ididnt, Evil Ash told me  :hihi:

Greatest show ever !

This is why I never see the posts til real late. To many jackasses who speculate and try to ruin the fun for those who want true info. Then get mad and try to tar and feather the band with speculation about what happened.  A big middle finger to those out there who talked smack about Axl and the band while the concert was playing.

show was good, but i've seen them better. axl was hungover, he told us. they drank too much champagne the night before, so now they called it 'vanpain'. but he sounded great! man his voice went over the top during the last singalong line of KOHD "knock-knock-knocking on heaven's doooooooooooor!!!) i loved it!! yeah absolutely great vocals. robin must have been high with his weird outfit. i like ron and richard more, they do better solo's. i missed CD, Maddy and rocket queen. so i think they shortened their set down, just one encore (PC). i went to the middle of the crowd for that song so i could get home faster and the sound was way better over there. man they nailed that song! see y'all in holland next week.

Great show, too bad Axl was late! When the show finally started the crowd was very calm, much calmer then in Dublin where I saw them before (but in Dublin the show started on time and the sun was still shining). We were promised a two and a half hour show but the show only lasted two hours.

Axl said he invented a new drink the night before, a mixture of Vodka and Champagne and he called it "Vampagne. It's pain". He said he had a hangover but let's be honest... who can sing a two hour Guns N' Roses show with a hangover and still sound great?!?

Yeah, the sound quality was really good at this festival. The new songs and solos didn't get the attention or response they deserve. If you think Buckethead was weird, check out Robin Finck, this guy can start his own religion! Check out the pictures of this show when they're online.

Not much more to say right now 'cause I really gotta go to bed again and most things have been posted before. Thank you for reading this. Goodnight!

There where also some negative things in this show.
-To much songs from Appetite. (G N' R have so much other great songs to play live like Civil war,Double talkin' jive,Estranged,Yesterdays,.. to name a few)
-Axl not talking that much with the audience.
-The pauses between several songs.
-To much solo's.
This is only my oppinion and how i feel it. The show was great but only these little things have bothered me.
One of the funniest things of the show was when Axl held his mic low and jumped a little up together with Tommy just to hear to sound of his shoes clapping on the stage.

back from belgium. it was awsome. gnr came 1.5h late.and some people started booing and stuff. but finally they came.
i had a pretty good overview of the people in the front row and they weren't really moving like at rock am ring. although the crowd really loved the show and the band, even in the far back of the venue,which i thought was amazng. they were singing along and were really happy.

the show was really good. axl's voice was phenomenal.i don't know how it's possible to improve that much from 2002 - 2006 just great. he didn't tlak much though. about the votcaine thing i understood that he said "cocaine" after that,maybe i was wrong.

i filmed the show. it was my first time but i think i did a pretty good job. although my battery died durnig november rain. i am missing the last half hour.

unfortunately they only played pc as an encore.

that's just about every show, heavy afd, not much being said, to many solos...

At ;least he is partying and having fun...

So will you share this with us and upload it? Would be G R E A T! :D

Hello Gunners

What a night yesterday.
Guns N' Roses is back for good...
Axl sounded amazing and looked very fit as well. He was magic.
We had to wait a bit longer ( 1.15min ) but is was fucking great.
They played a 2.15 min show.
A lot of Guns fans were there and we all had the same conclusion :

GUNS N' ROSES is the best band in the world!!!!

Who was there as well?

no i will keep it to myself like born to die ;)

of course i'll share it

Just one hour  ::) , and it was because of the rain mostly, when the rain started they covered the stage with black plastic blankets and then when it ended they took them off

Woohoo! Where, when, how?  :P

and another thing, they did play two and a half hours, from 11:30 to 2:00..... ?and people complaining about the fuckin pauses is ridiculous, they had to move the fuckin piano.

People complaining about the solos probably never had to listen to a drum solo during the UYI tour. :hihi:




/jarmo

no they only played for like 2hrs. pc was the only encore, no madagascar,rocket queen or CD

exactly, now that was boring.

2,5 HOURS, from 1130 to 200 ?:-*

totally agree: amazing show! We had to get through several bands with very, VERY bad sound, but when GN'R came on, it was just simply perfect! About the waiting, the rain did hold things up a bit, but all in all, it wasn't that long of a wait. (Soulfly, who played before Guns, actually ended their set like 20 mins or so late, so that also hold it up a bit :-) )

and to clear things in the Axl-cocaine discussion, he definately didn't say 'cocaine', he mentioned a new drink, a mix of vodka & champagne, and they called it 'vampagne' (or 'vodpagne' not really sure now), and he said that the day after (day of the show) he was in 'pain', 'vampain'...

all in all, the best gn'r show (as a band) I've seen so far, after Nijmegen '93 & Belgium '02. now up to Nijmegen next week.... :-D

remco

Nope, sorry to dissappoint you: they played from 11u45 'till 01u50!!!

naysayers, I bet you were the fat bastard next to me yelling slash  :P

for axl that is early. :rofl:

Solos can also help Axl catch his breathe and deliver vocally on the songs late in the show with the same power. ? ?It doesn't matter which era they did solos, they ultimately help the performance.

GN'R was great.... Lots of crazy fans out there...

Had a little chat with this guy... I don't think he came for soulfly do you?? :hihi:
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That is hardcore.

Wow that's amazing.

They played from 23.45h till 1.50h. That's 2.05h. And there where other pauses beside of the piano thing.

Ok but listen to Double talkin' jive. There is a great band solo in that song so Axl can rest his breath when the band is jammin' on the song. They also can skip 1 solo and let Axl  play some piano. He can start playing November rain after his solo and the band can fill in in the middle of the song.

Has no one on this board ever been to any other concert other then a Guns N' Roses show?? Do you guys think that they all happen exactly like the concert videos that get released?? Also, didn't everyone say it was raining alot??

Seriously, if you're gonna try to complain about something from a GNR show please try to make it something that doesn't happen at every other show on planet Earth.

I just have to repeat this, it was a really great show, Axl was just top notch, hitting every note, sounded better then ever

It was the best show i've been to (second is RiR5 and third is Pukkelpop)

wow  :o


btw,looks like it was great concert,thanks for reviews guys  :peace:

I saw Stone Sour yesterday and Cory talks alot with the audience. He also told us several times when the new album of his band is gonna be released. The same for Soulfly and Ill Nino. Great performance by all 3 bands. James Hetfield is also great to his fans. Thats' just something Axl had to learn. Talk to his fans/audience and give some information about the future plans (new album) of the band. And it wasn't raining alot. Just a little bit of rain for about 25min. It stopped rainin' before the show.

All of that may be true but it's really not the majority in rock. Axl does a certain amount of interacting with the fans at shows, but for the most part I think he puts more into his actual performance.

As for the rain, just because it stopped doesn't mean everything dried up instantly. And even if it was a bright sunshine day and the band came out right on time and god himself was at the soundboard, it doesn't mean there wouldn't be pauses and so on. It's rock and roll not a broadway play.

My point is that it seems that people actually want something to complain about.

What does it say on the left side on the tattoo???

I had a great time last night, different crowd than Paris of course, lots of metal-heads.
I didn't expect it to be that good actually, had some die hard old school death metal guys (or girls hard to see the difference) standing next to me who were enjoying November Rain very much ?:hihi:
The sound was very good, they had the volume on the microphone right from the start.
They dropped Madagascar and CD, probably a smart thing to do at this festival show, this will work much better at their own show.
Frank did a very good job, very solid drummer. Axl mentioned that he pronounced his last name right, sort of...
Robin for me is still hit and miss, I thought he did a better job than the Paris show, Dizzy rocked the keys, Chris did his thing ( :yes:), Tommy looked like he had a good time, Richard and Bumble were spot on and Axl's voice was top notch.
All in all a very pleasant evening or night I should say.

Allman

No,it's just my personal oppinion and how i felt it last night.

My point is that it seems that people actually want something to complain about.

No,it's just my personal oppinion and how i felt it last night.

Ok great. You're more then welcome to your personal opinion no matter what it may be. In my personal opinion it still looks like you were just looking for something to complain about.

Too fucking hardcore IMO.

It didn't rain yet at 22.30 o'clock when the show was SUPPOSED to start! Yes, Soulfly did play a longer set then they were supposed to but only because Guns N' Roses weren't ready yet. Between the songs Soulfly left the stage to discuss if they had to play a longer set or not (same thing happened in 2002 when GN'R played at Pukkelpop and Suede played before them).
The rain wasn't the problem. I believe Axl arrived at Graspop just minutes before the show started. That's when they put his clothes (all the brown jackets) in his "dressing room" at the side of the stage.
You know, when they say that the GN'R show started late "because of technical problems" you shouldn't believe it. If their technicians were that bad Axl would have already fired them. In Dublin and London the shows started on time because they had to end at a certain hour, maybe festival promotors should write something like this in the contracts when they book GN'R.

Or maybe people should realize that this has been happening for over 20 years and its going to continue.

W?rd. But still, I like to read when people bitch and moan. That?s part of the fun about forums.  :peace:

It's just strange that he plays some shows on time and others 1.5 hours late...

I'm going next week to the dutch show, but i'm on a festival before that, and i really want to see Robert Plant but if GnR starts on time, i'll miss a part...

yes you should see robert plant. i saw him earlier this year in brussels it was the best concert of the year so far (better than gn'r yesterday)

Hey brownstone, when will the dvd be torrented of this show? :P

I also attended the show, it was absolutely great. Axl's voice was terrific, no sign of 2002 at all. Raspy and great! Too bad they started late, but I think Soulfly (on a sidenote: what a horrible noise is this, and every 5 minutes the same: un, dos tres :no:) ending late and the rain were the main reasons for this, so no offense to Axl. Off course a lot of people in the crowd were not able to see this, but then again: it was a metal festival and there were a lot of drunks, so... As soon as they start to play, the booing was over. I think most of the things are said, so I leave it. The show is right behind Dublin, Axl was a little less talking. Only thing worth mentioning is, that in Dublin he ran to his tent almost twice a song, yesterday he did it way less often.
My only dissapointment was that there wasn't alonger set, as promissed, but anyway, what we got was great! :yes:.
The organisation of this festival was pretty poor. I aslo was at the Dublin gig and you really cannot compare. The Belgians can learn a lot in this. It costed me for example an our to get to the single shitty road leading to the civilized world after the show.

I tried to make some pictures, not to great quality, most are from the videoscreen. One has this nice feather of Finck.

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^^ nice pics Strose!

nice pics!

how'd u think of the new drummer?  :P

nice pics man, thx for posting those.

Awesome, thank you : ok:

It's sad seeing the lineup without Izzy now.  :-[

 ;D

When it was over I was hanging around in front of the stagem and a guy got a set list...

I saw Chinese Democracy was written on it (including Pyro Flash)..........

To bad they dropped it

Thanks by the photos. An big show of GUNS N' ROSES.


off-topic.

audio and video does not have?

Does anyone know the attendance for the show? 

I saw them 5 times on the UYI tour and I can tell you that when Axl started to intro the band everyone knew the solos were coming and were not happy. Nothing worse than having to endure a Matt drum solo at 2AM!

lol...the storm clouds at the beginning of this thread had me really worried and I could not take the suspense. So I skipped to the last few pages and found out everything was peachy.

A guitar/bass/drum/skin flute/pan pipe/whatever solo in the middle of a concert at any time is lame.

You'd think a dynamic, groundbreaking "genius" such as  Axl could find a smarter way to eat up time onstage while he's backstage sucking oxygen.

But Jarmo, if you notice, the UYI solos where linked between each other or slash played them to link songs for example double talking with Civil War for example... Now the guitar solos have no sence, just everything stop and the guitar player  play the solo and finish... there's no feeling in my opinion. Despite this fact I love that band as well...   

I hate guitar solos  that are not intros to songs.   They have to do away with these solos , they are not wanted.  Why does this band like making things difficult.  I think they are against giving the fans 100% satisfaction.   I am sure they have read these message boards  and seen how people keep complaining about the solos and yet they don't give a fuck and keep doing them.  They serve no purpose .   

I was wondering where dad was after he left mom.

are there any videos from this? :P

yeah the solos suck.... too many of them and too long.. really boring... hopefully when they come back to the states they will drop those from the setlists.

It was fuckin' great!

Stage-time: yeah, they were late, what else is new?

Crowd: great crowd, but everyone was a bit tired I guess.  ;)

Axl: in great shape, he was running like the devil, his voice is very very good. 

Frank Ferrer: a great drummer, A LOT better than Brain (sorry guys, but that's how it is)

The band: a lot better than in '02, much improvement

The solo's: I only liked Richard's one, Robin can do much better and I hate Ron's shredding.

Over all a very very good concert, not the same as in the good old days, but hey, that's how it is.  Axl moved on, so must we.

Some reviews and pictures from Belgian newspapers. I don't feel like translating them 'cause they're full of bullshit and lies! One of the newspapers, "Het Nieuwsblad", didn't like the songs "Chinese Democracy" and " Madagascar". They didn't even play these songs motherfuckers!

The one of De Standaard is quite honest and right.  Except about using the same stage as in 2002.  :smoking:  About the piece saying that GN'R is a karaoke version of the old band, well, let's face it, to the outside-GN'R-world that's exactly what they are.  We moved on, they never will, which is understandable.

3th time I saw them.

1. in '93: Werchter. Superb concert! Played as they were (are) the best rockband out there ! Best live concert I have ever seen (not only gn'r!)
2. 2002: Pukkelpop: bad concert, no inspiration at all, a cover band with Axl as frontman

3. Graspop, last saturday: my opinion:
Newspapers are fucking right! This concert was just not so good! Better than '02, that's for sure but not like 'this was an awesome concert', like I have read before.

When I saw some video on the net from the other europenan shows (and NY), I expected a really good performance...but no way: to boring.
And I really hate saying this, as I love the Guns. I really lost "touch" with them during the show...and this should not happen.

A guitar solo (even a drumsolo, like back in the day!) should not be boring. No people should love them, sing along, whatever... the solo took the "ambiance" away from the concert. The solo's in UYI world tour were never boring, in fact they put the songs together...

I really do not want to say that the new guns are not good enough because I really believe that they are fantastic musicians (they play the song very well), but they do not have (yet) that magic that the (old) guns once had!? :no:

And if Axl & co likes to be once again the best rockband out there...well it's all about the magic! (which I did not feel last sautrday). Let's hope they have this for next time I'll see them!! : ok:

Cheers.

guess we're off topic now but wasn't matts solos like 8-10 minutes long?

okeeee, finaly i'm home from a looong weekend...went to graspop saturday, came home around 5, went to paris with school around 7...slept 3 hours in 62 hours...AND have mixed feelings about the show.

first of all band was great, axl in good mood(but having a serious hangover like he said), richard amazing, ron was ok(not he best don't cry performance i've heard),finck was good(looking WEEEIRD haha, in a poncho and with a feather in his head...guess he goes from a pirate look to an aztecs ook or something...weirdo? :hihi:

I? saw almost every bootlegvideo from the previous shows and my expectations were high but it just didn't felt good. An hour and 15 minutes late...ok i can live with that...it's guns n' roses, but the reason why was just fucked up. Axl acted like a fucking diva and the organisation had to rebuild the backstage area just for him not getting a little bit wet. If he had played the full promised 2 and a half hours i would have felt better, but they played like 2 hours and 10 minutes with at least 35 minutes of solos and bandjams...come on axl, if they do that in an arenashow it's probably great. But for a lot of metal fans who aren't really gn'r fans it just sucks. But then again, axl looked sharp, vocals were great, performance of the songs were good, new drummer didn't make a lot of mistakes....don't worry about that guy, he's great...axl was also in a good mood, but i think it's not going the good way with him. If he won't cancel some concerts of this european tour( still a loooong time) i would be surprised. It feels like he is unstable again, partying, getting arrested, having serious hangovers. Ok, that's rock n' roll, and in a way it's cool. But we all now what's going to happen if he would be to fucked up to play a concert and just cancels it --->last chance will be blown, and i just hope he makes it trough all the dates? :-\ .... looks like the last chance is already blown for the belgian press...i was expecting those fucked up reviews...and you can say a millon times the press isn't important, well let's face it...THEY ARE IMPORTANT! they can make or brake axl for a lot of people who aren't familiar with the new band etc.

mixed feelings, not exactly great if you are waiting such a long time to see guns n' roses and are sticking with the band for all those years with no album.

axl didn't 'disappear' alot after songs...the lights didn't go out...band just kept playing those catchy bluestunes, at one point he started acting like a duck on stage? ;D and making ducknoises...weird? :hihi:

setlist

welcome to the jungle
it's so easy
mr.brownstone
live and let die
better (great crowd reaction)
robin solo
sweet child o' mine
knocin' on heavens door
you could be mine
blues jam
dizzy solo
the blues
finck,fortus solo(beatiful)
out ta get me
band jam and axl piano solo
november rain
IRS
ron solo(don't cry)
my michelle
patience
nightrain

paradise city

some more pictures!

http://album.zoom.nl/user/Paul%20MT/Graspop+2006/

EDIT: click the pictures for HQ!

Oh man these are great!!! Thank you soo much!!! Evil Ash, did you take these yourself?

nope, some fellow of an other (non-gnr) dutch board : ok:

bullshit.....  did you see this band live before??

thanks for the pics by the way :beer: