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Title: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 17, 2007, 08:53:03 AM
is it me, but when mexico shows were happening it seemed the vibe wasnt as good.

but now the austrailia shows, it seems the vibe within the band is great, everyones having fun and axl seems EXTREMELY happy.

hopefully axl being really happy is a good sign as to CD coming out soon.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: Apollon on June 17, 2007, 09:01:47 AM
Maybe, just maybe something happened in the gap between the Mexico and Australia shows... Something good? Chinese Democracy? *cough*  :peace:

This is just pure speculation...


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: gunns1 on June 17, 2007, 09:06:18 AM
mabye because Australians are actually appreciative of gnr , no matter how late they start,
and that they dont caus riots, and dont light their tshirts on fire, because of Gnr not starting when They want them to...


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: kuetastic on June 17, 2007, 09:25:52 AM
Its could be simply put down to a well planned tour with plenty of down time between shows, seemingly well organized accommodation and travel, things to do, see, partake in also seem to be timetabled by the tour promoter. I'd also imagine customs and local governments are a hell of a lot more relaxed here then they are in places like Mexico. I applaud the promoters whether this be the case or not of course.

For those who want to speculate there is plenty there though, band is full of jokes, lenient is what is said to fans and reporters, allowance of photography and singings, teasing guitar and drums. Extra shows, playing to demand, a growing set-list etc. There is also little reason to play Brisbane before Sydney as it is well out the way considering the route they have been taking. Other then a couple of days in the Gold Coast, Australia's premier holiday destination.
Perhaps Sydney will see a more talkative Axl Rose still. No news at all is still better then news of snide in house comments and cancellations.

Each day that passes is a day closer to that announcement. More delays or not.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: ironrose on June 17, 2007, 09:36:09 AM
Maybe it will sound stupid to you all guys .But Just hypothesizing ,may the reason be tequila?
You all ?remember that Axl did mention of how he was sick.He kept go to the backstage between the songs and throw up, because of tequila that he drank.:)









Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: noGnoG on June 17, 2007, 09:41:51 AM
From my point of view this can have two reasons:
1 Mexico  was the start of the tour, after having several cancellations etc. So they might have been nervous.
2 I had in the past also the impression that Axl feels more at home in English speaking countries. He then talks some more, smiles more, makes more jokes etc. I did not study all the concerts, but it's my impression after what I've seen.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: kuetastic on June 17, 2007, 09:43:27 AM
Are you suggesting Axl is an angry drunk? Well...I never  :rofl:

You may have a point there. Excessive Tequila will make for some nice rasp though.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: horsey on June 17, 2007, 02:36:54 PM
that tastes like shoe polish.i would throw up too.i like axl in the better mood,it's a good thing.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: estranged.1098 on June 17, 2007, 03:42:17 PM
mabye because Australians are actually appreciative of gnr , no matter how late they start,
and that they dont caus riots, and dont light their tshirts on fire, because of Gnr not starting when They want them to...

If you're saying Mexicans weren't appreciative of Guns N' Roses then you obviously weren't there.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: Krispy Kreme on June 17, 2007, 08:38:41 PM
is it me, but when mexico shows were happening it seemed the vibe wasnt as good.

but now the austrailia shows, it seems the vibe within the band is great, everyones having fun and axl seems EXTREMELY happy.

hopefully axl being really happy is a good sign as to CD coming out soon.
How would you know unless you attended the shows in both places? What  is "bad vibe" impression based  upon?


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: Mr. Redman on June 17, 2007, 08:54:06 PM
that tastes like shoe polish.i would throw up too.i like axl in the better mood,it's a good thing.

I thought you "banned" yourself?


Anyways, I think it's cause Axl just liked the atmosphere better then he did in Mexico.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: cattye on June 17, 2007, 10:06:02 PM
From my point of view this can have two reasons:
1 Mexico? was the start of the tour, after having several cancellations etc. So they might have been nervous.
2 I had in the past also the impression that Axl feels more at home in English speaking countries. He then talks some more, smiles more, makes more jokes etc. I did not study all the concerts, but it's my impression after what I've seen.

That's what I was thinking... he was probably nervous about playing again after the long break between tours.? And I agree maybe he's more comfortable in front of English speaking audiences knowing they can understand him talking better (his jokes etc)
 :)


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: stolat on June 18, 2007, 03:13:57 AM
Maybe it's because Axl was playing to huge oudoor stadiums in Mexico - in Australia the concerts are held indoors - cosy....!


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: badapple81 on June 18, 2007, 03:24:02 AM
GNR have been spot on time 11pm every Australian show havent they?

In Mel, Baz was told to leave stage early so GNR could get out and play!


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: grog mug on June 18, 2007, 03:53:42 AM
Just because Axl is caught having a good time, you think this pertains to CD??  I hope your right, but I think its the alcohol hes consuming putting him into a good mood, he could care less about CD in my opinion.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: Megaguns on June 18, 2007, 04:44:16 AM
I say its because axl probably hasnt been to Aus in 14 years, Where as hes probably been to alot of other places on holidays and stuff over the years, Australia loves GnR, And they know it.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: monkeychow on June 18, 2007, 05:04:24 AM
GNR have been spot on time 11pm every Australian show havent they?

In Mel, Baz was told to leave stage early so GNR could get out and play!

No the saturday show was more like 11.40pm at least I think.

Whats interesting was I felt there was a really different vibe on the saturday from the friday...any other melbourne dudes think this?


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: badapple81 on June 18, 2007, 05:13:51 AM
I didnt go to Saturday. How did it differ?

I think may have added in RQ and ditched a new song cos I felt the reaction to the new stuff wasnt that crash hot on Friday.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: stolat on June 18, 2007, 05:21:31 AM
Apparently security had to evict a lot of people on Saturday night.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: monkeychow on June 18, 2007, 05:40:25 AM
I didnt go to Saturday. How did it differ?

I think may have added in RQ and ditched a new song cos I felt the reaction to the new stuff wasnt that crash hot on Friday.


Well the crowed was a lot more into it all on saturday night it seemed to me. Like doing mexiacan waves before the show and that kind of thing. Also there seemed to be a lot more drunk people. LOL. But i also felt Axl gave a stronger performance on that night too.

Be interested to see if others felt the same...


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 18, 2007, 07:54:33 AM
Just because Axl is caught having a good time, you think this pertains to CD??? I hope your right, but I think its the alcohol hes consuming putting him into a good mood, he could care less about CD in my opinion.

If axl is at peace/happy with himself, theres a chance that hes in an all around good mood and feels confident about Chinese democracy.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: badapple81 on June 18, 2007, 07:58:19 AM
I didnt go to Saturday. How did it differ?

I think may have added in RQ and ditched a new song cos I felt the reaction to the new stuff wasnt that crash hot on Friday.


Well the crowed was a lot more into it all on saturday night it seemed to me. Like doing mexiacan waves before the show and that kind of thing. Also there seemed to be a lot more drunk people. LOL. But i also felt Axl gave a stronger performance on that night too.

Be interested to see if others felt the same...


I heard the same actually. I think the crowd were a bit tame on the Friday night. Which was good for me cos I was front row and didnt get squashed  :D

Maybe Axl was still suffering from the Adelaide after show partying a bit on Friday haha


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: Tonylover on June 18, 2007, 10:12:38 AM
I didnt go to Saturday. How did it differ?

I think may have added in RQ and ditched a new song cos I felt the reaction to the new stuff wasnt that crash hot on Friday.


Well the crowed was a lot more into it all on saturday night it seemed to me. Like doing mexiacan waves before the show and that kind of thing. Also there seemed to be a lot more drunk people. LOL. But i also felt Axl gave a stronger performance on that night too.

Be interested to see if others felt the same...


I heard the same actually. I think the crowd were a bit tame on the Friday night. Which was good for me cos I was front row and didnt get squashed? :D

Maybe Axl was still suffering from the Adelaide after show partying a bit on Friday haha

I agree with you. What the hell was up with the Friday crowd? They were so mellow, I was like why are you here if you're not going to act like a ballistic nut like me? I was screaming, flailing my arms around like a freak, singing along, standing on my chair... the people around me were sitting with their arms crossed. Losers.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: monkeychow on June 18, 2007, 10:22:20 AM
yeah its wierd how the vibe can change so much in one night.

But I also think the band and axl especially performed A LOT better on the saturday night...maybe because the crowd was into it more? or maybe the audience was digging it more cos it was a better show...its the chicken and the egg.

To me there was a real noticeable difference between the shows. Which i guess id normal with any performer.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: Tonylover on June 18, 2007, 10:26:54 AM
yeah its wierd how the vibe can change so much in one night.

But I also think the band and axl especially performed A LOT better on the saturday night...maybe because the crowd was into it more? or maybe the audience was digging it more cos it was a better show...its the chicken and the egg.

To me there was a real noticeable difference between the shows. Which i guess id normal with any performer.

Dang!
I'm jealous. I still had a great time on friday, it being my first time seeing them live and all. In hindsight I should have seen them both nights. Regret sucks. *Feels sorry for self*

Christina xx


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: bodine on June 18, 2007, 11:17:11 AM
Just because Axl is caught having a good time, you think this pertains to CD??? I hope your right, but I think its the alcohol hes consuming putting him into a good mood, he could care less about CD in my opinion.

If axl is at peace/happy with himself, theres a chance that hes in an all around good mood and feels confident about Chinese democracy.

I am amazed at how much people will read into what kind of mood he was in!  We are getting desperate!


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: Voodoochild on June 18, 2007, 11:19:59 AM
I think it's just fun to speculate, no harm there...

I wasn't at the gigs, but from what guns_n_motley said and from what I read, sounded to me like a special moment for Axl & the guys. That alone makes it one good thing to know. :beer:


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 18, 2007, 11:32:56 AM
Just because Axl is caught having a good time, you think this pertains to CD??? I hope your right, but I think its the alcohol hes consuming putting him into a good mood, he could care less about CD in my opinion.

If axl is at peace/happy with himself, theres a chance that hes in an all around good mood and feels confident about Chinese democracy.

I am amazed at how much people will read into what kind of mood he was in!? We are getting desperate!

not really speculating, but the axl now and the axl in 2002 is a VERY different axl. he seemed very insecure and angry in 2002.

even the mexico shows, alot of people on other boards were saying "oh this is the end, axl is back to being depressed"

the fact that hes out there playing and having fun and happy is a good thing


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: nightrain_st on June 18, 2007, 11:34:09 AM
mabye because Australians are actually appreciative of gnr , no matter how late they start,
and that they dont caus riots, and dont light their tshirts on fire, because of Gnr not starting when They want them to...

C'mon, I was in the Guadalajara gig, they were like 3hours late, tooo much time if you ask me, thats why the people started to lose their mind.

Anyway, the band was great in the show, especially Ron, I didn't notice any problem between they, they all were in great mood.


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: MotherGooseLuvR on June 18, 2007, 12:34:01 PM
I think Axl may have finally turned a corner.  Or started to turn a corner anyways. 

He hasn't played any real shows this year before Mexico.  I'll bet he was nervous.  I'm sure 2007 hasn't been the easiest year for Axl so far.  But by overcoming his anxieties and nerves and getting out there in Mexcio, maybe Axl finally proved something to himself.

It seems like Axl might be in a better place after these shows than he was at the beginning of the year.  Let's hope things keep going this way! 

And let's hope Axl keeps hanging out with the band -- especially Ron, Frank and Pitman.  Those guys could make anyone feel better about the world.  They're smart guys who seem really happy with where they are.  And I get the feeling that they genuinely care about Axl and his well-being.  Just like the fans do!

Woo-hoo!  Get 'em Axl!  Here's your chance to prove all the critics wrong.  Just keep kickin' ass and takin' names! 


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: bodine on June 18, 2007, 12:37:13 PM
Just because Axl is caught having a good time, you think this pertains to CD??? I hope your right, but I think its the alcohol hes consuming putting him into a good mood, he could care less about CD in my opinion.

If axl is at peace/happy with himself, theres a chance that hes in an all around good mood and feels confident about Chinese democracy.

I am amazed at how much people will read into what kind of mood he was in!? We are getting desperate!

not really speculating, but the axl now and the axl in 2002 is a VERY different axl. he seemed very insecure and angry in 2002.

even the mexico shows, alot of people on other boards were saying "oh this is the end, axl is back to being depressed"

the fact that hes out there playing and having fun and happy is a good thing

He's said that in 2002 he was pretty much forced into that tour and it never really felt right.  So it would make sense that he's happier if everything that's going on is on his own terms.  I'm as happy as everyone else to see that he seems to be enjoying what he does again, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar!


Title: Re: difference in the mood between the Mexico shows and Austrailia?
Post by: guns_n_motley on June 18, 2007, 02:15:43 PM
I think Axl may have finally turned a corner.? Or started to turn a corner anyways.?

He hasn't played any real shows this year before Mexico.? I'll bet he was nervous.? I'm sure 2007 hasn't been the easiest year for Axl so far.? But by overcoming his anxieties and nerves and getting out there in Mexcio, maybe Axl finally proved something to himself.

It seems like Axl might be in a better place after these shows than he was at the beginning of the year.? Let's hope things keep going this way!?

And let's hope Axl keeps hanging out with the band -- especially Ron, Frank and Pitman.? Those guys could make anyone feel better about the world.? They're smart guys who seem really happy with where they are.? And I get the feeling that they genuinely care about Axl and his well-being.? Just like the fans do!

Woo-hoo!? Get 'em Axl!? Here's your chance to prove all the critics wrong.? Just keep kickin' ass and takin' names!?

yep, thats basically what I was saying. just put in much better words :yes: