Waiting for Godot

[VHunknown]

Has anyone here read the play "Waiting for Godot"?  The premise of the story goes like this..... Two men grow to know one another over a period time while they both are waiting for a man named for Godot to arrive to meet them at a designated meeting area.  Time passes.  Over the course of the play different messengers are periodically sent by Godot to reassure the two men that he will shortly arrive and thus to keep on waiting.  These two men wait, and they wait, and they wait.  Every once and a while a message is sent by Godot telling the two men to keep their faith that he promises that he will come to meet them very soon.  The two men believe the messages and thus keep waiting.  The two men wait for years for Godot to arrive, but Godot never arrives and never fulfills his promise to meet them.  In the end the two men then hang themselves because Godot never came to meet them.

The moral of the story...... how long will you wait?  I lost faith that this band will deliver after they cancelled the tour with no explanation.   I have followed this board for years and some of you guys that have been waiting for this band for as long as I have.  My question is simply this, how long will it take to convince you that this record may never come out?  1 more month?  May?  December? 2005?  2010?  Never?  Greatest Hits..... RIR4..... more of the same bullshit illusory promises I have seen in the past.    

[SLCPUNK]

Good analogy.

I am close. Honestly I am. If nothing happens by April, I'll admit that nothing is going to happen.

[Butch Français]

Im already convinced that there will never be a new release.
I "saw the light" last summer I think it was.

[Izzy]

I don't even know what to think any more

Every week..no news....so we give Axl another week....

If it doesn't hit this year it ain't coming out.....but will i still hold out hope....probably....

[Butch Français]

I don't even know what to think any more

Every week..no news....so we give Axl another week....

If it doesn't hit this year it ain't coming out.....but will i still hold out hope....probably....

you could have said the same in 2001, 2002 and 2003.
nothing changes in the GN'R world, they'll probably tour this summer without an album out as well....wouldn't surprise me one bit.

[Jessica]

As i have my normal life outside of the net and since i listen to zillions of other artists, i'll " wait" for as long as it takes, even if that means never.

I'd love to hear new material one day, but i won't cry if i don't. Simple.

[Funeral]

I'd love to hear new material one day, but i won't cry if i don't.

I will.

-F

[Buddha_Master]

I thought the story was going to end with them murdering Godot  

[Smoke]

Its tough to say how long I will wait, I mean I have waited this long whats a little longer?  I want more than anything for CD to be released and if it never releases I will always wonder what would of happened with the new GNR.  

[D]

ill wait forever, i mean honestly whats it costing us to wait?

its not like we are paying to wait or its harming us in anyway, ill keep waiting and enjoy the other music i love in the meantime and ill live my life and keep doing the same shit i always do, to me its no big deal waiting, i kinda like just chillin with u guys and arguing and posting, its sorta fun

i mean its better than waiting alone

[SLCPUNK]

I dunno. The whole thing seems stupid at this point.

[Captain Obvious]

Like D said, what does it hurt to wait.....its not like your putting your life on hold until its released. If CD is never released, a certain record company will not be too pleased with Godot.

[dust of my dust]

Funny how an indirect reference to Samuel Beckett (the man who wrote Waiting for godot) can be made on a GN'R related forum...

Samuel Beckett is my favorite writer, and he is indubitably one of the finest novelist of the 20th century.
I know that this is not the subject, but just to open some cultural horizons, I suggest to all the people here who are into experimentation to take a look at Beckett's works (especially his novels and his short stories). Musical experimentation is quite interesting, but let's not forget that literary experimentation, when it is done by a master like Beckett, can go even deeper...

[Doc Emmett Brown]

 

I read that in high school but didnt make the connection!  Let's all hope this doesnt end with people hanging themselves over a cd.  

Whoever is going to RIR4 should make a huge banner that Axl can read from the stage, and it should it read: Waiting for Axl-Godot

Maybe someone should mail him a copy

[2NaFish]

if we suddenly decide to stop waiting what difference does it make? None.

If/When it does happen i'll feel alot happier knowing i never lost the faith.

[slashnbuckethead]

I just wanted to clarify the dudes waiting for Godot, Vladimir and Estragon don't hang themseves. They talk about doing it but eventually decide not to because they don't have any rope. It's mor about waiting and being content with waiting forever. For now HTGTH is our stage and we are waiting for CD as long as there is no cd we wait and are content with waiting, therefore Axl would be doing more harm by releasing CD because he would ruin our state of existential nobility.

[Jessica]

I'd love to hear new material one day, but i won't cry if i don't.

I will.

-F

Hmmm...Yeah, perhaps.

[Fuckin' Gunner]

Is funny say "I won't wait anymore..."

What is wait? Don't you still living your life? What will change when you "stop waiting"? I'm waiting, but it don't means I'm sitted in a stone waiting for Axl Rose with "Chinese democracy" in his hands.

[Gunner101]

Meh.. Axl is always late..

I'll wait.. I have no problem waiting.. It would be nice to have some news from Axl himself but life goes on and I wont dwell on it every hour of the day.

[Mattman]

Actually, some of my friends are reading that book right now in a class at school, which I didn't take because I decided to do gym instead.  But I'm familiar with the plot of the book, even if I haven't actually read it.  I never made that connection with GN'R, but now that I think about it, it should have been so obvious a comparision.  I thought I would make another connection with Guns N' Roses and Waiting For Godot.  See, from what my English teacher tells me, Godot is actually a symbol for God.  Godot...GODot...see?  And that's another connection to Guns N' Roses right there.  Both Godot and Axl think they're god.  

Sometimes, waiting is a good thing.  The anticipation for something can be just as good as having the thing itself.  It's like Christmas.  If there was no waiting at all for Christmas Day, it wouldn't be half as much fun as it actually is.  Same with Guns N' Roses and Chinese Democracy.  Waiting for Axl has made GN'R fans a tremendously close-knit bunch, given us a cause that most other music fans don't have.  All you need is just a little patience.  Or a lot.

If the new album, were never to come out, would the waiting still have been worth it?  Well, unlike the guys in Waiting For Godot, we don't actually have to go out to some place and physically wait around for Axl.  We can do other things with our lives while we wait.  But I think in the end, there's only one reason for you to wait around for Godot or Axl or whoever...you gotta have faith.